--- Day changed Fri Nov 27 2009 00:04 -!- thehouse [n=chatzill@cpe-069-132-004-225.carolina.res.rr.com] has left #hplusroadmap [] 00:07 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:25 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:29 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-67-11-208-33.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:29 < kanzure> hm 00:29 < kanzure> "You won't see it using git log because the head is still the previous commit. It's easy to remedy:" 00:29 < kanzure> http://samba.org/~jelmer/dulwich/tutorial/ 00:29 < kanzure> >>> repo.refs['refs/heads/master'] = commit.id 00:29 < kanzure> i'm pretty sure that should be s/commit/c2/ 00:33 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@67.11.208.33] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:39 < kanzure> ah it looks like you can't create a new branch because it's using some __getattr__ trick. 00:42 -!- Netsplit brown.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mason-l, branstrom, nsh 01:06 -!- genehacker [n=noko@pool-173-57-48-104.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:22 -!- branstrom [n=branstro@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:23 -!- genehacker [n=noko@pool-173-57-48-104.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:25 -!- branstrom [n=branstro@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:26 -!- branstrom [n=branstro@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:37 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@67.11.208.33] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:20 -!- nsh [i=sbp@59.176.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:20 -!- mason-l [n=x@202-89-188-136.static.dsl.amnet.net.au] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:49 -!- genehacker [n=noko@pool-173-57-48-104.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:02 -!- mason_l [n=x@202-89-188-136.static.dsl.amnet.net.au] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:04 -!- mason-l [n=x@202-89-188-136.static.dsl.amnet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:11 -!- Netsplit brown.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: nsh 04:13 -!- Netsplit over, joins: nsh 05:06 -!- Juul [n=Juul@wnn73217.wireless.dtu.dk] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:07 -!- mason_l is now known as mason-l 08:00 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@67.11.208.33] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:16 -!- Netsplit brown.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Juul, nsh 08:20 -!- Juul [n=Juul@130.225.73.217] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:20 -!- nsh [i=sbp@72.232.176.59] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:10 -!- Juul [n=Juul@130.225.73.217] has quit [Remote closed the connection] --- Log closed Fri Nov 27 09:32:24 2009 --- Log opened Fri Nov 27 09:42:30 2009 09:42 -!- kanzure [i=bryan@dhcp-84-36.me.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:42 -!- Irssi: #hplusroadmap: Total of 25 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 25 normal] 09:43 -!- Irssi: Join to #hplusroadmap was synced in 87 secs 10:05 -!- Utopiah_ is now known as Utopiah 10:14 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@67.11.208.33] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 10:16 < ybit> 21:14 < kanzure> and the bildr guy never got back with us 10:16 < ybit> 21:14 < kanzure> even after ybit emailed him too (this was after i phoned him up- he was very enthusiastic) 10:16 < ybit> remember i pasted his response? 10:16 < ybit> he said that he was going a different route than that of skdb 10:16 < ybit> okay, i have to leave for work.. if you guys don't remember the paste (or forward?) i'll forward or paste 10:34 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-67-11-208-33.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:34 -!- Phreedom [n=quassel@195.216.211.175] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:55 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:57 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-67-11-208-33.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:03 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:09 -!- Phreedom [n=quassel@195.216.211.175] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:13 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:30 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:39 < kanzure> hamachi? 11:41 < kanzure> http://www.funis2cool.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/359-lb_grouper_fish_05.jpg 11:41 < kanzure> i think the guy was referring to the vpn program though 11:42 < kanzure> weird artwork: http://ma.tt/2008/02/nice-smbfs-tutorial/ 11:43 < fenn> i was wrong, it means 'yellowtail' not grouper 11:50 < kanzure> fenn: it's japanese custom to now kill yourself because of the shame you have brought into this channel from your failure. 12:34 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:49 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:52 -!- genehacker [n=noko@pool-173-57-48-104.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:00 -!- zancas [n=zancas@h-74-2-87-164.chcgilgm.static.covad.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:13 -!- genehacker [n=noko@pool-173-57-48-104.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 15:07 < kanzure> kanzure@pikachu:~/local/packages-skdb/lego$ git checkout anonymous 15:07 < kanzure> error: bogus commit object 0e48ff3872b9dfdc64db66f8a1769fb10ddbfb37 15:07 < kanzure> Segmentation fault 15:33 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-24-28-28-186.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:23 < kanzure> fenn: when's the last time you fragged your hd? 16:24 < kanzure> hdd 16:24 < fenn> fragged? 16:24 < fenn> i don't own any hand grenades :P 16:24 < kanzure> defragmented? 16:24 < fenn> you dont have to do that on linux 16:28 < ybit> superkuh: what tts voice do you use? i have been using nitech_us_awb_arctic_hts, nitech_us_clb_arctic_hts, nitech_us_rms_arctic_hts 16:34 < superkuh> voice_nitech_us_slt_arctic_hts 17:03 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-24-28-28-186.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:07 < kanzure> looks like it's back in stock for $60 17:07 < kanzure> http://www.amazon.com/Wild-Planet-Gear-Video-ATV-360/dp/B0016A7PGU 17:08 < kanzure> it had vanished last year, but IIRC in 2007 it was on hackaday http://hackaday.com/2007/10/07/25-head-mounted-display/ 17:09 < kanzure> "The screen is a Kopin 300M (Black and white, 300×240 pixels) " well that's totally useless 17:09 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-24-28-28-186.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:30 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-24-28-28-186.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:57 < Utopiah> "CLI to a variety of popular WWW search engines and other artifacts of power" http://surfraw.alioth.debian.org/ 17:59 < kanzure> yep 17:59 < kanzure> Utopiah: have you seen pyscholar? 17:59 < kanzure> i was hoping to get around to writing an interface between pyscholar/surfraw and uzbl 18:00 < Utopiah> hmmm nop, URL? 18:02 < Utopiah> ok 18:03 < Utopiah> well yes Ive been looking into a nice equivalent of Zotero but so far Im sticking to Vimperator (with binds) + wiki 18:04 < Utopiah> (btw Google Scholar didn't release any proper API with stats AFAIK :( 18:04 < Utopiah> means you are scrapping? 18:10 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-24-28-28-186.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:12 < kanzure> Utopiah: yes, i scrape more than is healthy 18:13 < kanzure> http://github.com/kanzure/pyscholar/tree/master/ 18:13 < Utopiah> thanks, I found the link since 18:29 < fenn> i have noticed that with a small angle of view HUD it doesn't matter much what the resolution is because your eye can't really resolve that fine of detail 18:29 < fenn> the myvu are just about at the limits of my poor vision 18:29 < fenn> stuff goes out of focus a bit near the edges of your glasses lenses too 18:30 < fenn> the way to go is to add a dual gyro to create a sort of virtual display space around you 18:31 < fenn> like fvwm2 if you ever used that, but slaved to your head movements instead of mouse bs 18:34 < Utopiah> is myvu the public equivalent of http://www.brother.com/en/news/2008/rid/ ? 18:34 < kanzure> i wish 18:34 < kanzure> myvu does 640x480 18:35 < kanzure> and the one you linked to does 800x600 among other things 18:36 < kanzure> also it's a projector, myvu isn't 18:36 < Utopiah> ah ok 18:37 < fenn> i thought brother made printers 18:37 * Utopiah still hopes to get the lense equivalent "soon" 18:37 < Utopiah> it's like 3M that doesn't just do stickers ;) 18:38 < fenn> yeah they also mine copper :P 18:39 < Utopiah> and http://www.3m.com/mpro/specifications.html 18:39 < fenn> geez everyone has their own line of mini projectors now 18:39 * fenn grumbles about shitty webpages while he's at it 18:42 < fenn> re: the brother HUD; i think i would want just the mirror in front of my eyes, with the projector mounted much further back 18:43 < fenn> why is this stuff not consumer mass market yet 18:43 < any12108394> why does sciencedirect exist, when so few can afford to pay $20+ for every article? 18:44 < QuantumG> suckers 18:44 < ybit> any12108394: it's for universities mostly, i don't know of anyone who pays to read 18:44 < ybit> which i've a feeling you knew that 18:45 < any12108394> almost makes it worth to enroll for some cheapy class just to get access :-/ 18:46 < fenn> or just pester kanzure for a server account 18:46 < any12108394> i might wear it out if i automate the downloads 18:47 < kanzure> any12108394: nope 18:47 < kanzure> i've transferred well over 100GB through it 18:47 < any12108394> oh 18:47 * ybit needs a laptop that costs no more than $450 and doesn't suck: i've found netbooks that have subpar performance, but great battery life and light weight. i've yet to find an ultralight or notebook with decent battery life that cost less than $450n, and 18:47 < any12108394> 18:48 < Utopiah> used Thinkpads? 18:48 < any12108394> http://www.shopgoodwill.com/listings/listByCat.asp?catID=176&ending=Items ? 18:48 < ybit> the last used thinkpad i bought didn't last long, but i was a little too rough with it 18:48 < kanzure> same here 18:50 < ybit> can i has a dual-core netbook? 18:50 < any12108394> i have these topic listings, and would like to add to each topic (this listing i gathered on ONE directory after years of mining): http://designerthinking.com/Ai_topic_tags.txt 18:50 < kanzure> didn't i already offer you one? 18:51 < any12108394> me? 18:51 < kanzure> any12108394: these don't look like topics about ai 18:51 < kanzure> any12108394: no, ybit 18:51 < kanzure> i offered him a laptop i think? 18:51 < fenn> kanzure: i thought you offered a monster behemoth computer with folding case 18:51 < ybit> woah, these things exist 18:51 < any12108394> they are not *about* ai, they are a reference for the Ai 18:51 < kanzure> any12108394: i strongly doubt you're doing anything remotely related t oai 18:51 < kanzure> *to ai 18:51 < kanzure> now, what are you actually doing? 18:51 < ybit> http://www.onsale.com/p/5572458?dpno=7847330&store=onsale&source=BWBGoogleBase and more like them 18:52 < any12108394> ok, nevermind, i learned long ago to not defend myself 18:52 < kanzure> huh? 18:52 < kanzure> just wondering what you're doing 18:52 < fenn> looks like mostly medical and engineering topics 18:53 < any12108394> fenn, it's just one dir, it's not the news dirs, not the food dirs, ot music drs, etc etc 18:53 < fenn> kanzure: kats has an autonomous scraper agent with database.. i dont really know much more than that 18:53 < any12108394> and there's some overlap 18:54 < ybit> bkero mind seeing what the price comes out to on that ideapad?: http://shoplenovo.i2.com/SEUILibrary/controller/Lenovo:EnterStdAffinity?affinity=epp 18:54 < ybit> it's the lenovo ideapad u330 18:55 < any12108394> the bot knows really not much about Basil Rathbone, about 17k bytes, and that's not listed as a topic on that url 18:55 * fenn ventures out into the cold dark streets 18:56 < kanzure> i still don't know what's going on, any12108394 18:57 < any12108394> must you? for my efforts to provide details, what does it get either of us? 18:57 < kanzure> neat stuff? 18:57 < any12108394> usually i am just slammed and picked apart for my efforts 18:57 < QuantumG> fleeting amusement? 18:58 < any12108394> Quantum , but not forme 18:58 < QuantumG> you said either 18:59 < any12108394> i have built a small cluster, i wrote lan data exchange apps, i have a decade+ of data scraping, and i know the best i can aim for atm is a smart expert system 18:59 < any12108394> i aim a lil higher 18:59 < kanzure> what were the data sources? 18:59 < any12108394> internet, a few doz books scanend in (i wore out 2 scanenrs) 18:59 < kanzure> internet? any particular.. er.. 19:00 < any12108394> many sites 19:00 < any12108394> some not online anymore 19:00 < any12108394> and i hesitate to share quid pro ... because of plagarism and such 19:02 < QuantumG> so can your ai do anything? I don't mean that in a mocking tone.. 19:02 < QuantumG> honest question. 19:03 < QuantumG> dazzle me 19:03 < ybit> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VA5A98?ie=UTF8&tag=hl0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B002VA5A98 19:03 * ybit quits pasting crap links 19:05 < any12108394> Quantum , cannot 19:05 < QuantumG> cannot what? 19:06 < any12108394> 1) i refuse to put the cluster to task when the ups batteries cannot be kept at charge yet , 2) so the db isn't distributed properly yet 19:06 < QuantumG> .. this is what I find so disturbing about AI researchers. 19:06 < QuantumG> first lesson of engineering is? 19:07 < any12108394> but answering simple questons of a dat finding nature is easy from the small lists i premunged on the one computer 19:07 < QuantumG> (ok, the first is specify the problem, but let's ignore that one) 19:07 < QuantumG> 1. make it work 2. make it right 3. make it fast 19:08 < any12108394> 1st rule for me is to not buy everything at the first price give, but wait a reasonable time for a good price, else the budget is blown 19:08 < QuantumG> it isn't "spend years making a distributed architecture which you think will be able to do the task, if only you know what the task is that you wanted to do" 19:08 < any12108394> 2nd rule is to not do ANYTHING in a place that worships dogs and finds single women and disabled humans to be vermin 19:09 < any12108394> i know the task, i have run out of OS capabilities, hd and ram space and cpu clocks 19:09 < QuantumG> ... there was AI guys in the 70s who wrote more interesting programs than the people who do the same research today 19:09 < any12108394> hence the cluster 19:09 < any12108394> i agree 19:09 < QuantumG> ... so you should be able to tell me what your program can do.. as well as what it cant 19:09 < any12108394> on the other paw, i suspect those guys are still writing, and their progress is hidden away 19:10 < QuantumG> the answer should be something like "it can solve these tasks.. in this restricted domain.. but to go beyond that I need a working cluster.." 19:10 < QuantumG> not "I'm building a cluster.. then I'll figure out what I wanna do with it." 19:10 < any12108394> i never said "then I'll figure out what I wanna do with it." 19:11 < QuantumG> ya didn't answer the question either... what does it do 19:12 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-24-28-28-186.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:12 < any12108394> "what does it do" implies temporally "now", and i did answer that queston, as well as my "aims" 19:13 < QuantumG> well, you say you're building a cluster.. so by the numbers you should already have something working and are now attacking the program of scaling it. 19:14 < QuantumG> as you're saying it doesn't do anything.. but are trying to scale it anyway, you're literally trying to make "a big nothing" 19:14 < any12108394> yeas, something does work, but again: power is of because atm the ups batteries are manually monitored when charging, so atm it does nothing but take up space due to the power being off on that shelf 19:15 < QuantumG> when you start talking about ups batteries my palm doesn't even bother going to my face.. but it wants to. 19:15 < any12108394> i have the situation in hand, parts are on order to solve the power problem: i need 120amps of cleanpower at 13.6vdc to float the batteries, and it's in the mail 19:15 < any12108394> why? 19:16 < QuantumG> you're still talking about scaling 19:16 < any12108394> no, you are, i have done nothing but answer your critiques, wich i never wanted to do 19:16 < QuantumG> Me: What's it do? You: I'm scaling it. Me: What are you scaling. You: These are the problems I'm having with scaling. 19:16 < kanzure> these are not critiques 19:17 < any12108394> the bloody cluster is built, but i refuse to suffer data corruption when the power goes out routinely, so it's NOT going topowerup till i resolve that 19:17 < any12108394> it's not a "problem" of "do-ability", it's simply the stuff is still in USPS's hands 19:18 < kanzure> quantumg is asking about the software 19:19 < any12108394> i am not disclosing code or data at this time, i said i am understanding i can at best expect an expert system, but i aim higher, and atm it's doing nothing 19:19 < QuantumG> do you have such an expert system working yet? 19:19 < any12108394> it's that simple and limited AT THIS TIME which is what he keeps asking 19:19 < any12108394> i said it's simple data recovery (Q&A) 19:20 < any12108394> and i said it's currently limited to a small pre-munged set of data 19:20 < any12108394> because the cluster is not powered up 19:20 < any12108394> i have said everything 3 times, and i hate this 19:20 < any12108394> not going to answer more 19:20 < kanzure> you've told us nothing except "i don't want to tell you anything" 19:21 < any12108394> ok 19:21 < QuantumG> and, as I said, dudes in the 70s wrote expert systems that worked on computers thousands of times slower than our desktop machines. If you can't do the same with a desktop machine than no sized cluster is going to make it any better. 19:21 < any12108394> now you attack my personality, fiances, methodology, pretenses, sex, and the phase of the moons 19:21 < kanzure> what? 19:21 < kanzure> you're full of it. who has attacked your personality, fiances, etc.? 19:22 < QuantumG> I'm attacking nothing but your complete lack of understanding of basic engineering practice.. and don't take it personally, I do this to every AI researcher, as it tends to be a prerequisite for them 19:22 < any12108394> Quantum, winxp limits an app to 2gigs, my mobo limit me to 2gigs, one app often runs out the available ram and 3.5gigs of swap space on harddrive 19:23 < Utopiah> (can get a "cluster" quickly with Amazon EC2 including now 64Gb instances) 19:23 < any12108394> ergo, the cluster can run similar apps faste than one can possibly run even two of that app 19:23 < QuantumG> yeah, dudes in the 70s would have been happy to have a spinning core of a megabyte of memory.. if they were at a sufficiently funded institution 19:24 < any12108394> kanzure, i never said it was already done, i said now is the time when that begins 19:24 < Utopiah> http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2009/10/two-new-ec2-instance-types-additional-memory.html 19:24 < any12108394> as when you said "you're full of it" 19:24 < Utopiah> ( $2.40 per 68.4 GB of RAM, and 26 ECU (8 virtual cores with 3.25 ECU each), 64-bit platform. instance hour ) 19:25 < any12108394> Utopiah, fine, i have the hardware i have, the OS api calls in code i have, and not going to spend more time "upgrading" to that, especially given : [19:21] and, as I said, dudes in the 70s wrote expert systems that worked on computers thousands of times slower than our desktop machines. If you can't do the same with a desktop machine than no sized cluster is going to make it any better. 19:26 < kanzure> ah so you do have some software? 19:26 < Utopiah> no need to "upgrade", just start an instance and load your software on it, run it, get the result, close it 19:26 < any12108394> kanzure, i said i did 19:26 < kanzure> any12108394: i have to admit i've never been this confused by you 19:26 < Utopiah> (you can even use sshfs on instances) 19:27 < any12108394> kanzure, which is why i seldom ever mention anything, i can never make myself understood 19:27 < kanzure> Utopiah: so, a friend recommended i dump some code into ec2 19:28 < kanzure> Utopiah: for off-site CAD rendering for the upcoming skdb website 19:28 < kanzure> rendering images takes too long at the moment (more than 5sec but less than 1min) 19:28 < kanzure> so putting it somewhere else in the cloud seems like a reasonable deal 19:29 < kanzure> any hints? 19:31 < kanzure> hm "don't use it for your main server" right. 19:31 < any12108394> i dunno, for under $250 i put together P4 2.4+ghz, 2gb ram, 2 new 320g hds + 80g boot drive, gigabit lan card, all cables, software 19:31 < Utopiah> afaik it's "just" AWS, there are emerging solution including GPU based ones http://www.caps-entreprise.com/compute_lab.html but nothing that can compare in term of number of machines you can get and how quickly they make it available 19:32 < kanzure> why does amazon have a large cluster anyway? 19:32 < any12108394> some have hdmi, svideo, and all the other goodies (dvd, cd, 2nd lan port, etc etc) 19:32 < Utopiah> because they are a logistic company hencetheir business is optimization 19:34 < Utopiah> who one day thought they could resell their unused cycles 19:35 < Utopiah> (which is perfectly logic for a logistic company I guess, they considered that resource as yet another "stock") 19:43 < Utopiah> sidenote, storing your dataset on S3 isn't free, even if you don't use it 19:44 < Utopiah> if you have a large university pipe to re-upload everytime it's fine but it also costs a bit 19:44 < Utopiah> (you can run simulations to check if it's worth the trouble, they have the AWS calculator) 19:49 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-72-179-52-26.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:03 < kanzure> jasonwohlfahrt: back? 20:21 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:23 * fenn got some temporary fleeting amusement out of it at least 20:24 * any12108394 got the re-education that's it's a bad thing to discuss things 20:31 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:44 < kanzure> so i followed this: http://samba.org/~jelmer/dulwich/tutorial/ through "changing a file and commit it" 20:44 < kanzure> http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/dulwich_tutorial.py 20:44 < fenn> http://dvice.com/assets_c/2009/11/6-techs-to-end-the-world-gray-goo-28393.php 20:44 < kanzure> and it doesn't work as it says it should 21:07 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-72-179-52-26.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:43 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-72-179-52-26.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:56 < kanzure> http://samba.org/~jelmer/dulwich/tutorial/ 22:10 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-72-179-52-26.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:27 < kanzure> took me 5min to realize " 22:27 < kanzure> er, to realize that " 22:27 < kanzure> deadmau5 - interstat is just a remix of a GITS soundtrack 22:28 < kanzure> also, i suck at paste 22:33 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:35 -!- any12108394 is now known as katsmeow 22:36 < fenn> "a" GITS soundtrack? 22:37 * fenn hates remixes anyway 22:37 < fenn> intelstat 22:40 < fenn> oh wonderful, "lets play it in a concrete warehouse with terrible acoustics, then overdrive the speakers 150% and shoot lasers everywhere" 22:40 < fenn> and add a drumbeat 22:40 < fenn> "look i did a remix!" 22:41 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:43 < fenn> there is a fairly complete collection on the LAN at http://192.168.1.87/mp3/gits/ 22:52 < ybit> okay, if someone wants to convince me otherwise about purchasing the acer aspire 1410, now is the time to do it 22:52 < ybit> http://www.laptopmag.com/print_review.aspx?id=36868&url=http://www.laptopmag.com//review/laptops/acer-aspire-1410.aspx 22:52 < ybit> she is about to be purchased in less than 5 mins 22:52 < ybit> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115655&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Netbooks-_-Acer+America-_-34115655 22:54 < fenn> i'm browsing randomly on gitorious.org, there are a lot of circuit board projects 22:55 < fenn> I-Care-U 22:55 < fenn> It’s a full platform with tele-care/vital-care, including the measuring devices(portable ECG、2-in-1 blood pressure glucose device)、the device of broker,and the server side. 22:56 < fenn> whatever that means right 22:57 -!- zancas [n=zancas@h-74-2-87-164.chcgilgm.static.covad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:00 < kanzure> i wonder why i'm using github instead of gitorious 23:01 < fenn> me too 23:01 < kanzure> i wonder why i'm using either at all 23:02 < fenn> gitorious is AGPL 23:02 < fenn> offsite backups are handy 23:03 < kanzure> when was the last time you pulled from tangiblebit.git? 23:03 < fenn> a long time go 23:04 * kanzure looks at his poor progress bar 23:04 < kanzure> Receiving objects: 73% (715/979), 16.65 MiB | 339 KiB/s 23:04 < kanzure> although he commits lots of large image files 23:06 < kanzure> 57.52 MiB 23:06 < kanzure> blah 23:06 < kanzure> so he has his own packaging system now.. 23:07 < kanzure> and has three committers? 23:08 < kanzure> ok nevermind, it's all bullshit 23:13 < fenn> skdb was ~14MB last i checked 23:14 < kanzure> a lot of that are smari's png's from tangiblebit 23:14 < kanzure> *is 23:14 < kanzure> and some of that is IGES/STEP bloat 23:14 < fenn> inventory/ is only 1.2MB 23:15 < kanzure> huh? i thought it was due to .git/ and all the object files being moved around/copied multiple times? 23:15 < kanzure> holy crap import_tools is 15MB 23:15 < fenn> oh my bad, it's only really about 7MB since .git is included in du 23:15 < kanzure> and doc/ is 11 MB? 23:15 < fenn> nah you just have data left over 23:15 < kanzure> i sure hope so 23:16 < kanzure> oh 23:16 < kanzure> 6.3 MB bearing.stl 23:16 < kanzure> and then 7 MB in import_tools/models/ 23:18 < fenn> i dont understand why sparkfun insists on making their 'breakout boards' so frigging huge 23:18 < fenn> 4 pins and the thing's >1 inch square? http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=7915 23:19 < fenn> oh nm the scale is wrong on the picture 23:19 < CIA-33> skdb: kanzure * r 43a8ab0 /web/web.py: here's an attempt with dulwich; python-git is up next. 23:53 < kanzure> the gitpython tutorial doesn't go over committing at all 23:54 < kanzure> ah, it's read-only 23:54 < kanzure> wonderful