--- Day changed Fri Dec 04 2009
00:19 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap
00:28 -!- jasonwohlfahrt_ [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap
00:34 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
00:37 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap
00:38 < kanzure> jasonwohlfahrt: hey i have a ride tomorrow btw
00:39 < kanzure> i'll call you tomorrow before 10 just to let you know
00:39 < kanzure> you're probably not here :)
00:42 -!- bct [n=bct@96.52.252.20] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
00:43 -!- bct [n=bct@S0106001c1041555b.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #hplusroadmap
00:45 -!- jasonwohlfahrt_ [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:46 -!- jasonwohlfahrt_ [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap
00:54 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:55 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap
01:03 -!- jasonwohlfahrt_ [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
01:04 -!- jasonwohlfahrt_ [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap
01:12 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-52-191.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
01:14 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
01:14 -!- jasonwohlfahrt__ [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap
01:14 -!- jasonwohlfahrt__ is now known as jasonwohlfahrt
01:14 -!- El_Matarife [n=El_Matar@ppp-69-148-69-156.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit ["Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de"]
01:15 < kanzure> Meeting the challenge of building diamondoid medical nanorobots http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/Meeting%20the%20challenge%20of%20building%20diamondoid%20medical%20nanorobots.pdf
01:16 -!- Juul_ [n=Juul@wnn72112.wireless.dtu.dk] has joined #hplusroadmap
01:17 < kanzure> hello Juul_ 
01:18 < kanzure> http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/screenshots/2009-12-04_hplus-summit-2009-slide1.png <-- we're going to rock the house on saturday :)
01:18 < Juul_> hey
01:18 < Juul_> :D
01:22 -!- jasonwohlfahrt_ [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
01:30 < QuantumG> http://theop11.chem.elte.hu/main_index_files/2004_Tajti_HEAT_JCP_121_11599.pdf
01:59 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
02:06 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap
02:17 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
02:25 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-52-191.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap
02:35 -!- wrldpc2 [n=benny@ool-ad03fe34.dyn.optonline.net] has quit []
03:18 < fenn> sense/control/modify positive feedback loop
03:22 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap
03:34 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
03:47 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-52-191.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
03:49 -!- Juul_ [n=Juul@wnn72112.wireless.dtu.dk] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
03:56 -!- marainein [n=marainei@220-253-156-154.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #hplusroadmap
04:05 < fenn> a
04:05 < fenn> "productive recursion is what transhumanism is all about"
04:17 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap
04:29 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
04:35 < fenn> civilization: provides for basic human needs (food shelter companionship), imposes structure on reality (worldview, assiilate minerals, roads, containers), contains information (laws, skill/tradition, style)
05:32 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap
05:34 -!- marainein [n=marainei@220-253-156-154.VIC.netspace.net.au] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
05:43 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
05:45 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap
05:45 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
06:16 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap
06:16 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
06:31 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap
06:43 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
06:56 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
07:27 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap
07:36 -!- jasonwohlfahrt_ [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap
07:44 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
07:45 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap
07:50 -!- jasonwohlfahrt_ [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
08:02 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
08:26 -!- danielfalck [n=chatzill@pool-71-111-79-148.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap
08:42 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap
09:13 -!- futuresoon [n=futureso@cpe-68-175-67-66.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap
09:13 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-146-126.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap
09:22 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap
09:42 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
09:43 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap
09:47 -!- Juul_ [n=Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #hplusroadmap
09:49 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-24-227-244-7.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
09:51 < kanzure> webcast: http://www.techzulu.com/live.html for saturday
09:54 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-146-126.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
10:09 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-52-191.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap
10:10 -!- kanzure changed the topic of #hplusroadmap to: http://adl.serveftp.org/dokuwiki/skdb watch us live on saturday december 5th at http://www.techzulu.com/live.html for http://hplus.eventbrite.com/ hplus summit 2009
10:12 < genehacker> dang, DLP chips are made with semiconductor old hardware
10:12 < genehacker> like 80s or 70s era hardware
10:14 < kanzure> genehacker: you going to watch us present?
10:58 < genehacker> when where?
10:58 < genehacker> yes
11:01 -!- mason-l [n=x@202-89-188-136.static.dsl.amnet.net.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
11:21 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-72-179-52-26.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap
11:29 < katsmeow-afk> snowing in Houston , Tx atm
11:30 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@c-98-234-218-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"]
11:45 < genehacker> not snowing here yet
11:47 -!- mason-l [n=x@202-89-188-136.static.dsl.amnet.net.au] has joined #hplusroadmap
11:59 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-72-179-52-26.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
12:13 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@99.2.31.217] has joined #hplusroadmap
13:52 -!- Juul_ [n=Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
14:18 -!- danielfalck [n=chatzill@pool-71-111-79-148.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
15:28 < genehacker> hmmm...
15:28 < genehacker> apparently there's a free orbital fileserver
15:37 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-72-179-52-26.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap
16:08 < genehacker> it doesn't have much storage, but it's up there
16:08 < genehacker> it's a cubesat too
16:08 < genehacker> now if you could only put more up there and start torrenting files from space...
16:10 < Utopiah> what laws apply to it?
16:12 < Utopiah> should it go in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_haven :-# ?
16:14 < genehacker> I don't know I'm not a lawyer
16:15 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-72-179-52-26.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
16:16 < genehacker> but it's a cube sat
16:16 < genehacker> a tiny satellite
16:39 < QuantumG> spacecraft are governed by the rules of the launching country.
17:14 < genehacker> then what if I launch the spacecraft from the ocean?
17:20 < QuantumG> 1. you have to file paperwork for every launch, and in that paperwork you have to nominate a country
17:21 < QuantumG> 2. there's procedures in international treaty for unregulated launches
17:21 < QuantumG> (aka, the guy with the biggest gun wins)
17:23 < genehacker> what if I designate sealand as the country?
17:23 < genehacker> what are the procedures for unregulated launches
17:23 < QuantumG> clearly you can't just designate any country you want.
17:24 < QuantumG> the procedures are that people with nukes get mad at you and chase you around the globe until they can put you in a little box with bars on it.
17:25 < genehacker> well the thing to do is use that mockingbird thing to fake a nuclear attack on some country if you ever get put in a box
17:25 < genehacker> one of it's intended uses is to look like a MIRV
17:25 < QuantumG> sounds like a great way to get your box put into a bigger box
17:26 < genehacker> yeah
17:28 < genehacker> I guess one could just get a nuke and claim to only use it as a deterrent
17:30 < QuantumG> I'm more interested in whether or not the nuclear boogie man has been sufficiently put to sleep that civil aviation could start to include intercontinental ballistic trajectories without getting shot out of the sky.
17:35 < genehacker> the thing about a fake nuclear attack is that it's impossible to tell if it's fake
17:38 < QuantumG> I dunno if you understand how nuclear warning systems work
17:38 < QuantumG> .. but its not like in the movies :)
18:07 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-52-191.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
19:19 < QuantumG> http://www.gaussian.com/g_prod/g09.htm
19:19 < QuantumG> major difference between the academic and the commercial use prices
19:19 < QuantumG> .. and of course, there's no "non-commercial but not academic use" license.
19:33 < QuantumG> but I guess that's what bittorrent is for.
20:32 -!- mason-l [n=x@202-89-188-136.static.dsl.amnet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
20:42 -!- mason-l [n=x@202-89-188-136.static.dsl.amnet.net.au] has joined #hplusroadmap
21:02 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@99.2.31.217] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"]
21:31 -!- katsmeow-afk is now known as katsmeow
21:55 -!- El_Matarife [n=El_Matar@adsl-69-148-69-156.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #hplusroadmap
22:09 -!- Juul_ [n=Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #hplusroadmap
22:15 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
22:57 -!- Juul_ [n=Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
23:22 -!- drazak_ is now known as draak
23:22 -!- draak is now known as drazak
23:53 -!- any25134595 [n=someone@75-120-217-212.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap
23:54 -!- katsmeow [n=someone@75-120-217-212.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.]
23:54 -!- any25134595 is now known as katsmeow