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I encourage my mother to join their human trials. She's interested, but distracted. 09:50 < kanzure> ah i met gregory benford up in new york a few months ago 09:50 < kanzure> he's pretty neat in person 09:50 < JayDugger> Glad to hear it. SS09? 09:52 < kanzure> yes 09:52 < kanzure> http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/presentations/hplus-summit-2009/ 09:52 < kanzure> you can see my presentation in the .pdf 09:57 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:13 < kanzure> alex lightman 10:13 < kanzure> chris 10:13 < kanzure> michael someone from livly 10:13 < kanzure> peter voss 10:14 < JayDugger> Name-dropping? 10:16 < kanzure> no 10:16 < kanzure> JayDugger: http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/meetlog.txt 10:16 < JayDugger> Got it. 10:16 < kanzure> have you ever seen that? 10:16 < JayDugger> The file? No, by "Got it," I meant "understood." 10:17 < kanzure> check it out :) i keep track of who i meet 10:17 < JayDugger> Looking now...that's an excellent practice. 10:18 < JayDugger> Much more useful-seeming to have it in a text file vice trying to reconstruct who I met when from memory mush or activity streams. 10:18 < JayDugger> Howard Rheingold? 10:19 < kanzure> yeah i was talking with howard for a bit 10:19 < kanzure> he ran a "brain storms" message board for a while 10:20 < JayDugger> How do you use the list's contents? Do it serve just as a mnemonic, or does it become one more data oubliette? 10:20 < kanzure> it's yaml 10:21 < JayDugger> It looked structured. 10:21 < kanzure> so in python you can do this: 10:21 < kanzure> yaml.load(open("meetlog.txt")) 10:21 < kanzure> and you get it in python objects 10:21 < kanzure> it's serialization 10:28 -!- JayDugger [n=duggerj@pool-173-57-16-175.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:33 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-72-179-52-26.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:01 -!- mason_l [n=x@202-89-188-136.static.dsl.amnet.net.au] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:06 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-72-179-52-26.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:09 -!- mason-l [n=x@202-89-188-136.static.dsl.amnet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:09 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:15 -!- mason_l is now known as mason-l 11:16 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-71-42-216-164.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:47 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-71-42-216-164.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:39 < ybit> kanzure: dammit you were right, grr 13:39 -!- mason-l [n=x@202-89-188-136.static.dsl.amnet.net.au] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 13:39 < ybit> (i could have snuck in) 13:39 -!- mason-l [n=x@202-89-188-136.static.dsl.amnet.net.au] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:46 -!- mason-l [n=x@202-89-188-136.static.dsl.amnet.net.au] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 13:46 -!- mason-l [n=x@202-89-188-136.static.dsl.amnet.net.au] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:47 -!- mason-l [n=x@202-89-188-136.static.dsl.amnet.net.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:48 -!- mason-l [n=x@202-89-188-136.static.dsl.amnet.net.au] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:21 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-55-90.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:25 < genehacker> kanzuure are you there? 14:33 < genehacker> allosphere, wtf 15:23 < kanzure> yes i'm around 15:31 < genehacker> so what was that cellular automaton guy talking about 15:31 < genehacker> just barely missed the end of it 15:45 < Utopiah> genehacker: did you upload stuff up there? 15:58 < kanzure> i uploaded some stuff here: http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2009/ 16:01 < Utopiah> you do type a lot :) 16:01 < Utopiah> oh wait, are those transcripts? 16:04 -!- futuresoon [n=futureso@cpe-68-175-67-66.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:07 < kanzure> yes those are transcripts 16:07 -!- futuresoon [n=futureso@cpe-69-203-72-94.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:08 < genehacker> not sure about the whole allosphere thing 16:08 < genehacker> looks interesting though 16:08 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:13 -!- danielfalck [n=chatzill@pool-71-111-79-148.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:18 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:25 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:29 < genehacker> so the problem with seasteading is that you can disconnect 16:32 < genehacker> lack of connection standards 16:33 < katsmeow-afk> explain? 16:34 < genehacker> well if you get in trouble with the law 16:34 < genehacker> run to another sea stead 16:34 < genehacker> that will protect you 16:34 < katsmeow-afk> but you called that a problem 16:34 < genehacker> ever read the diamond age? 16:35 < katsmeow-afk> no 16:35 < genehacker> it talks about things like this 16:35 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:35 < Utopiah> http://fabien.benetou.fr/ReadingNotes/DiamondAge (dont' think I wrote sth about seastands though) 16:35 < genehacker> where society breaks up into claves 16:36 < genehacker> snow crash goes into this too 16:37 < katsmeow-afk> sounds like what all the southern usa militias have been talking about for 50 yrs 16:37 < genehacker> go bryan! 16:49 < genehacker> fenn those aren't true gears... 16:55 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:55 < genehacker> internet people? 16:56 < genehacker> clap 16:56 < genehacker> clap 16:56 < ybit> hehe 17:02 < ybit> fenn, kanzure zure: well done, nice approach, i think the audience was certainly captivated most of the time 17:06 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:07 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:08 < Utopiah> http://spectrum.ieee.org/static/singularity 17:19 -!- danielfalck [n=chatzill@pool-71-111-79-148.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:19 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:22 < genehacker> dang it isn't there anywhere I can watch these video's later 17:23 < katsmeow-afk> hell, the page is just now opening here 17:26 < katsmeow-afk> i wonder that we will not know the singularity happened till well after it does 17:27 < katsmeow-afk> i expect a wave of media that will cast it in a good light, and polls to guage the public, and it revealed only after the polls look good 17:27 < genehacker> I'm calling jevon's paradox on this guyt 17:30 -!- futuresoon [n=futureso@cpe-69-203-72-94.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:33 -!- danielfalck [n=chatzill@pool-71-111-79-148.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:34 -!- JayDugger [n=duggerj@pool-173-57-16-175.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:34 < JayDugger> Who was that last speaker? Joesph? 17:35 < genehacker> dallas texas? 17:35 < genehacker> do we have a texas transhumanist in here? 17:35 < JayDugger> No, you have a carpetbagger. I have a Texas IP and location, but I hail from MO. 17:35 < JayDugger> We say "Show me." 17:35 < JayDugger> :) 17:36 < genehacker> dang 17:37 < JayDugger> Reprap is not an Universal Constructor. Someone overstates the case. :) 17:37 < genehacker> that guy totally forgot the whole semiconductor fab process 17:37 < genehacker> yup yup 17:37 < genehacker> everyone does 17:37 < JayDugger> I'll keep watching. He might yet have something good to say. 17:37 < JayDugger> 17:38 < JayDugger> Heh. I'd like to see those numbers. I hope he's right. 17:38 < genehacker> what about the lifetime cost? 17:38 < JayDugger> Exactly. How long does a RepRap last under heavy use? 17:39 < JayDugger> Perhaps he did those numbers. I'd like to see them. 17:39 < genehacker> oh oh how do you get rare europium ore for stuff? 17:39 < JayDugger> War becomes obsolete? 17:39 < JayDugger> Ah, Crusades anyone? 17:39 < genehacker> or rare earths that can only be mined practily in several places in the world 17:39 < genehacker> tantalum 17:39 < JayDugger> Yeah... 17:40 < JayDugger> I'm all for high-tech back-to-the-earth, but a little less hard sell, if you please. 17:41 < JayDugger> Oh, really? A UC? Can it build a human? No? 17:42 < genehacker> the humans are part of it 17:42 < JayDugger> Fair point. I withdraw that detail. 17:42 < JayDugger> What if I want to build a fission reactor? 17:42 < JayDugger> Or a solar cell? 17:42 < genehacker> not so sure diy steel production would bring you closer to nature 17:43 < genehacker> solar cells are easy 17:43 < JayDugger> Really? Don't you need semiconductor fabrication equipment? 17:43 < genehacker> yeah 17:43 < genehacker> you make it 17:44 < genehacker> but really why'd you want to make silicon solar cells when it's easier to make a solar thermal plant 17:45 < JayDugger> I imagine a counterexample, that's all. 17:45 < genehacker> so for making solar cells you need silicon as a major component 17:45 < JayDugger> Solar thermal might serve better, if I had a real-world case. 17:45 < katsmeow-afk> for making *silicon* cells, yeas 17:45 < genehacker> you need boule pullers 17:45 < JayDugger> I don't know how to build those, but those sound hard to make. 17:46 < genehacker> they're simpler than they look 17:46 < katsmeow-afk> thermal has higher demonstrated efficeny in the real world, if you can find sunlite unfiltered by pollution 17:46 < JayDugger> Withstand high-temperature? 17:46 < JayDugger> Okay, Dr. Hughes does good work, but I have better things to do right now. 17:47 < genehacker> tank of molten silicon you want to purify 17:47 < genehacker> dip a purer crystal in and pull 17:47 < genehacker> they's a better ways to make solar cells though 17:47 < JayDugger> Yeah. I know what a boule puller does, I just don't know what design constraints they have. 17:47 < genehacker> gravity provides a constraint 17:48 < genehacker> to the amount you can do 17:48 < genehacker> at a time 17:48 < genehacker> which is why we should put em in space 17:48 < genehacker> or the moon 17:48 < JayDugger> Never mind the advantages of cheap hard vacuum? 17:48 < genehacker> yup 17:48 < JayDugger> :) 17:49 < JayDugger> Return later--GF exercises her veto. 17:57 < genehacker> wait sunlight filteredb by pollution 17:58 < genehacker> aren't there few places with that problem? 17:59 < katsmeow-afk> a few 17:59 < genehacker> I don't live there 18:00 < katsmeow-afk> there's been days here when in noon sun with no clouds, there's neen no shadows, because the light has been diffused by the smog 18:00 < katsmeow-afk> and, consequently, no heat could be felt on skin exposed to the sun either 18:00 < katsmeow-afk> black objects in direct sun did not get warm 18:02 < genehacker> argh 18:02 < genehacker> that's annoying 18:02 < genehacker> so the not only does coal pollute, it makes it so that solar isn't viable 18:02 < genehacker> damn you fossil fuels! 18:03 < katsmeow-afk> frustrating 18:04 < katsmeow-afk> and cleaning up point sources like that doesn't help if people burn trash at home, because that is even dirtier 18:04 < genehacker> oh and that's anectdotal evidence 18:04 < genehacker> I don't trust itt 18:05 < katsmeow-afk> and harder to track, because no one wants to track it 18:05 < katsmeow-afk> k 18:05 < genehacker> then they should implement burn bans 18:05 < katsmeow-afk> for the record, i did n't blame it all on the 3 coal power plants in the next county over, i do blame burning stuff away from those 3 tho 18:06 < genehacker> shit that sucks 18:06 < genehacker> you should really where a gas mask 18:06 < katsmeow-afk> burn bans? it's already illegal to burn garbage here, but most people do it, and no way to enforce it 18:06 < katsmeow-afk> i DO wear carbon filtr masks 18:06 < genehacker> thermal imaging uav's 18:06 < genehacker> wow 18:06 < genehacker> that bad 18:06 < genehacker> and this is in america 18:07 < genehacker> hmmm... does the city get to fine people for burning garbage? 18:07 < katsmeow-afk> they won't,, they train low level C130 flights here, and like the EP3 crews, but mostly for coast guard and such, and i wrote them, they never replied 18:08 < katsmeow-afk> it's like: if they would use the training flights to find IR sources here, they'd be better at it in Iraq and Afghanistan and everywerhe else 18:08 < katsmeow-afk> 18:09 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@140a.hackerdojo.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:09 < genehacker> if there wasn't a war in afghanistan, then maybe thermal camera's would be cheaper 18:10 < genehacker> and UAVs and carbon fiber and many other things 18:10 < genehacker> they're damned expensive 18:10 < genehacker> mainly because the military buys em so much 18:10 < katsmeow-afk> or just the neighbor calling it in 18:10 < genehacker> and they require some rare ore 18:11 < genehacker> that'd work too 18:15 -!- majma [n=nihilus@c-76-125-146-206.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:16 < katsmeow-afk> did you burn trash 18:16 < katsmeow-afk> yes, it's our heritage, very one has done it backt o recored history 18:16 < katsmeow-afk> did you analyse the smoke on your property? 18:16 < katsmeow-afk> no 18:16 < katsmeow-afk> case dismissed 18:39 < genehacker> is that an actual court case 18:49 < genehacker> kanzure you there? 18:55 < katsmeow-afk> yes 18:56 < katsmeow-afk> i was so stupid i actually tried to use the law to stop the 24-7 of home and business garbage by rednecks on adjoining property, fronting the next street over 18:58 < katsmeow-afk> the following yr, the rednecks discovered they could not hunt on anyone else adjoining property with rifles and shotguns, so they moved 18:59 < katsmeow-afk> i accosted them on my property, they withdrew only when i fired a shot, they stepped back onto a neighbor's property and emptied their guns onto my property, the neighbor followed them home and presented himself and his guns on their front door 19:00 < katsmeow-afk> cops got involved, basically said "shot shooting up property that doesn't belong to you",, or within 200ft as stated by law 19:01 < katsmeow-afk> nevermind everything they were shooting with travels more than 200ft, and they were in a subdivision 19:01 < genehacker> what about engineers... 19:01 < genehacker> everyone forgets us 19:01 < katsmeow-afk> ? 19:01 < kanzure> http://www.squiggle.com/danbmil/humanity_plus.html 19:02 < genehacker> who's this guy presenting about the 90s? 19:03 < JayDugger> You mean R.U. Sirius? 19:03 < JayDugger> You're kidding, right? 19:03 < genehacker> I don't know these names 19:04 < JayDugger> Okay, fair enough. 19:04 < JayDugger> Once upon a time, pre-www, there existed few ways for people of like mind to communicate: phone, print, conference, and television. 19:05 < JayDugger> R.U. Sirius wrote a 'zine, then the magazine MONDO 2000. 19:05 < JayDugger> Think of him as presenting the oral traditions of the "cyberculture" zeitgeist. 19:06 < JayDugger> Much of what he says might seem dated or obvious, but that happens because he wants to make a contrast. The avant garde turning normal. 19:06 < genehacker> oh he did stuff with fraunfelder 19:06 < JayDugger> (yeah, my GF still says no to the video.) 19:07 < JayDugger> And I will not turn into one of those annoying people who talk about how great the '60s, I mean '90s, were. ;) 19:08 < majma> is the video feed down for everyone or just me? (btw hello) 19:08 < genehacker> what do you mean? the 90s had some of the best videogames ever 19:09 < genehacker> yeah down here to 19:09 < genehacker> hello and welcome to the hive 19:09 < majma> mondo 2000 predates me, i started following these things in maybe 2002 but i listened to some neofiles podcasts that r.u. did 19:09 < JayDugger> Yeah, but go talk with an ex-hippy. "Did I ever tell you about the Sixties?" 19:10 < JayDugger> I hated hearing that, so I promise not to do the same. 19:10 < genehacker> yeah me too 19:10 -!- zhmort [n=mirc@c-67-161-42-51.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:10 < JayDugger> Genehacker--do you know anyone near DFW with a RepRap or MakerBot? 19:12 < genehacker> yes 19:12 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-24-28-74-233.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:13 < genehacker> but their's don't work 19:13 < genehacker> I have some of the printed parts for one 19:13 < genehacker> if I could only get all of them before the end of the semester 19:13 < JayDugger> I keep thinking of buying the kit, but RL keeps interfering. 19:14 < genehacker> one of my friends has a ponokorap 19:14 < genehacker> last I heard he's having firmware troubles 19:14 < JayDugger> Oh? 19:15 < genehacker> you could ask him 19:15 < genehacker> he's in #reprap 19:15 < genehacker> goose is he nick 19:15 < JayDugger> What's a ponokorap? Yahoo & Google failed. 19:15 < genehacker> keltor's another guy doing reprap stuff, I don't think he has a working reprap, but he has access to a bunch of cool tools 19:16 < genehacker> a laser cut reprap from a company called ponoko 19:16 < JayDugger> Ah. 19:16 < genehacker> http://reprap.org/bin/view/Main/PonokoRepRap 19:16 < JayDugger> Thank you. 19:17 < genehacker> I have most of the darwin printed parts 19:17 < genehacker> because where I am, I get free 3d prints 19:17 < JayDugger> That's a NICE perk. 19:18 < JayDugger> Believe I'll stick to either CloudFab or CupcakeCNC. 19:18 < kanzure> why cloudfab 19:18 < kanzure> they're just a startup with a giant image 19:18 < JayDugger> That's fine. 19:18 < genehacker> at the downside of getting them very slowly 19:18 < genehacker> huh what's going on? 19:18 < JayDugger> I've more money and patience than free time. 19:18 < genehacker> video feed died 19:18 < kanzure> you have money? 19:19 < kanzure> did i send you the "cool toy" list? 19:19 < JayDugger> For sufficiently -- GF veto, BRB. 19:19 < genehacker> if you have money just buy a stratasys or an already made 3d printer 19:20 < JayDugger> That's out of budget. 19:21 < kanzure> consider getting a used lathe or cnc of some other sort 19:21 < JayDugger> I'd like the cool toy list, but "more money than free time" says little about absolute values of either, just a comparison. 19:21 < genehacker> you need a garage otherwise you're going to annoy your girlfriend 19:22 < JayDugger> No thanks. I turned down my mother's ex-husband's ShopSmith. 19:23 < JayDugger> A small CNC is fine, but there's a limit. CloudFab services or eMachIneShop keep the noise and mess far from me. 19:24 < kanzure> #bpcs ? 19:24 < JayDugger> Eh? 19:25 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@140a.hackerdojo.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 19:29 < genehacker> dang missed aubrey's talk 19:29 < JayDugger> His talk from ss09 is on Vimeo. 19:30 -!- wrldpc2 [n=benny@ool-ad03fe34.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:31 < ybit> hi JayDugger 19:31 < JayDugger> Hi, ybit. 19:31 < ybit> are you @ the conf 19:31 < JayDugger> No. 19:31 < JayDugger> kanzure attends. 19:31 < ybit> as does fenn 19:31 < ybit> ...and myself 19:32 < JayDugger> Did you see C. Peterson's talk? 19:33 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-24-28-74-233.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:37 < ybit> JayDugger: i've seen them all 19:37 < JayDugger> What did you think of her presentation? 19:37 < genehacker> alex lightman's in the videochat 19:46 < kanzure> http://spacecollective.org/ 19:49 < genehacker> thanks for the link 19:49 < genehacker> wonder if they have any self-replicator projects 19:50 < genehacker> damn too much flash 19:54 -!- zhmort [n=mirc@c-67-161-42-51.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 19:58 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-24-28-74-233.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:25 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-24-28-74-233.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:29 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-24-28-74-233.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:29 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:48 < katsmeow-afk> kanzure that url has a link to http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/ which has a fake security full screen popup 20:56 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-24-28-74-233.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:33 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-55-90.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:15 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-55-90.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:17 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:52 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-71-42-216-164.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:19 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@rrcs-71-42-216-164.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:36 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-72-179-52-26.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:50 -!- bct_ [n=bct@S0106001c1041555b.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #hplusroadmap