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09:38 < kanzure> for instance, cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@libgmail.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/libgmail login tells me that i need a password for the "anonymous" user 09:39 < kanzure> hm looks like libgmail has been having issues since 2009-11-30 on gmail authentication bullshit anyway 09:44 -!- splicer_ [n=patrik@h209n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:45 < kanzure> hey splicer_ 09:45 < kanzure> long time no see 09:53 -!- splicer [n=patrik@h209n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:07 -!- kristianpaul [n=kristian@190.7.148.137] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:11 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mage2, CIA-33, splicer_, chizu, QuantumG, kristianpaul, nsh, zvader, kardan 10:14 -!- mage2 [n=mage@66.179.208.36] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:14 -!- nsh [i=sbp@wikipedia/nsh] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:14 -!- kardan [i=kardan@mail.brueckenschlaeger.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:14 -!- splicer_ [n=patrik@h209n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:15 -!- kristianpaul [n=kristian@190.7.148.137] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:15 -!- chizu [n=chizu@osuosl/staff/chizu] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:15 -!- zvader [n=zvader@heckle.icmb.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:15 -!- QuantumG [n=qg@nuclear.biodome.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:15 -!- CIA-33 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:27 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:36 < strages> why did no one tell me there was an H+ magazine? 10:38 < kanzure> haha :) 10:38 < kanzure> it's relatively new 10:39 < kanzure> the print version isn't going to be printed any more.. just the online edition 11:02 < strages> ah, I was unaware 11:02 < strages> just saw that boing boing mentioned the new issue being out 11:02 < strages> in print and online 11:15 -!- drazak [n=drazak@drazak.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:15 -!- drazak_ [n=drazak@drazak.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:25 -!- splicer_ [n=patrik@h209n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 11:25 < kanzure> some chick was hanging out around todd at the conference 11:25 < kanzure> and she asked about his magnets 11:26 < kanzure> "what do they do?" 11:26 < kanzure> "well," and he thought for a moment, "they let me experience a level of reality that, uh, you can't." 11:26 < kanzure> the chick went totally "wow-eee" on him.. :p 11:32 < strages> lol 11:48 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@99.2.31.217] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:52 < mindspillage> I can't decide, generally, whether to be annoyed with the actual behavior of "nerd groupies" or to be happy that they exist. 12:21 < xp_prg> I took apart an inkjet printer and attempted to print with soy sauce but the printer failed 12:21 < xp_prg> I learned alot though 14:14 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-46-246.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:59 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-46-246.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:11 < kanzure> http://www.designconference.org 15:11 < kanzure> paper due on the 14th 15:11 * kanzure pops some pills 15:14 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-41-71.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:20 < kanzure> "To use Microsoft Office Live Workspace beta, your computer must meet one of the following requirements:" <-- i'm not even going to bother reading the rest of this 15:33 -!- mindspillage [n=kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 15:39 < genehacker> kanzure you know that page you made with all the transcripts of the Hplus talks? 15:40 < genehacker> put a link to a description of SKDB on it 15:58 < QuantumG> http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/09/2141250 15:58 < QuantumG> http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=2688&blogid=14 16:05 -!- Phreedom [n=quassel@195.216.211.175] has quit ["No Ping reply in 180 seconds."] 16:05 -!- Phreedom [n=quassel@195.216.211.175] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:11 -!- wrldpc2 [n=benny@ool-ad03fe34.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:16 < genehacker> http://nextbigfuture.com/2009/12/gregory-benford-of-genescient-talks-at.html 16:31 -!- wrldpc2 [n=benny@ool-ad03fe34.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 16:32 -!- wrldpc2 [n=benny@ool-ad03fe34.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:38 < xp_prg> genehacker I took apart an inkjet printer and the inkjet cartridges man! 16:38 < xp_prg> I was ready to try to print soy sauce and the printer broke :( 16:41 < xp_prg> is it possible to measure the viscosity of a substance? 16:50 < katsmeow-afk> genehacker, yea, but who wants to live any longer? i'd WAY prefer to live better 16:53 < katsmeow-afk> MOSCOW, Dec. 9, 2009 - 16:53 < katsmeow-afk> A Ukrainian man's jaw was blown off after he laced his chewing gum with an unknown substance, local authorities in the country's Sumy region said of the man who died from his injuries. 16:53 < katsmeow-afk> A chemistry student at the Kiev Polytechnic Institute who was identified only by his first name Vladimir liked to chew gum and dip it in citric acid, his family said. 16:56 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-41-71.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:03 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-66-106.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:04 < kanzure> QuantumG: the comments in that slashdot article are .. lacking 17:04 < kanzure> genehacker: yeah i met with greg, he's pretty cool. 17:06 < QuantumG> its slashdot 17:06 < kanzure> usually there's at least one "really good comment" 17:07 < QuantumG> less and less frequently unfortunately 17:07 < kanzure> ah the days when i tried to maximize my life for karma whoring.. 17:07 < kanzure> you know something's wrong when you're basically a bayesian filter for what might get karma on slashdot 17:07 < QuantumG> there was a time when you could post a comment and you'd get something just as good back 17:08 < QuantumG> *that* was karma :) 17:12 < kanzure> bah you old people always exaggerate about "them there good old days" 17:12 < kanzure> :p 17:18 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:18 < kanzure> hey rmond 17:19 < fenn> so i went to noisebridge last night 17:19 < fenn> it was bigger than i expected 17:20 < fenn> the people were really friendly; apparently they'll give a key to anyone that wants one, even non-members 17:22 < fenn> the max-nc mill is godawful slow for cutting metal 17:22 * fenn has no spacebar 17:24 < fenn> and i have a sinus infection that has progressed into a cold 17:25 -!- tarbo2 [n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 17:27 -!- strages [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Success] 17:36 < kanzure> spaces are for weirdos anyway 17:37 < kanzure> beautifulsoup's findChildren only finds immediate children, not absolute children 17:40 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-66-106.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:43 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-175-173.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:58 < QuantumG> http://bit.ly/2IGWfm 17:59 < kanzure> actually it's rampant because it's so easy 17:59 < kanzure> also wtf is with the guy with a pistol 18:00 < QuantumG> he's a cop 18:00 < QuantumG> the guy with the cassette is the computer criminal 18:01 < kanzure> bah casette will never catch on, criminals of tomorrow will use 8track 18:01 < QuantumG> RT @FakeAPStylebook: "Hacker" simply means "a person who is skilled with computers." To describe a computer criminal, use "Linux user." 18:01 < kanzure> aw :( 19:06 < fenn> i wish james choate would just crawl into a hole and die 19:06 < kanzure> yep 19:06 < kanzure> "fooey i hate your idea because you weren't born to experience how things used to be" 19:07 < kanzure> besides, none of the people he mentioned really /did/ anything 19:07 < kanzure> er.. i mean, like packaging 19:07 < fenn> yeah if there were an existing example of something like this, i think i would have found it by now 19:07 < fenn> oscomak just barely counts 19:08 < fenn> what is an "8 cube" anyway? 19:09 < fenn> a blinky led thingy? 19:09 < kanzure> haha 19:09 < kanzure> i don't think we're planning on doing blinky led shit 19:10 < kanzure> i count only 6 sides on a coube, so maybe i'm missing something? 19:10 < fenn> yeah, papercraft rulz :P 19:10 < fenn> it's probably an 8x8x8 blinky 19:11 < kanzure> wow even more spectacularly fail 19:11 < kanzure> i guess it's a good way to be introduced to multiplexing or managing lots of blinking lights at the same time 19:11 < fenn> anyway what choate doesn't realize is that anything that isn't on the internets doesn't exist 19:12 < fenn> not because people are morons who hate their grandparents 19:12 < kanzure> stupid grandparents.. 19:23 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-175-173.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:50 < drazak_> fenn: who's at choate? 19:53 -!- genehacker [i=genehack@wireless-128-62-41-71.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:53 < genehacker> of course we all know the cassette the guy's carrying has already been erased by the superconducting electromagnets embedded in his house... 19:58 < genehacker> http://www.paleofuture.com/blog/2007/4/20/the-robot-rebellion-1982.html 19:58 < genehacker> another one by the same author 19:59 < genehacker> fairly dystopian future for a kids book 20:13 < genehacker> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3560/3393673535_f364eb3174_o.jpg 20:13 < genehacker> they almost got this right 20:13 < genehacker> except for the machine which makes things out of plastic you design yourself... 20:20 * fenn wonders if that was a reference to cryptonomicon 20:21 < kanzure> grr development costs 20:21 < kanzure> already spent 2 pennies 20:22 < genehacker> first one yes 20:23 < genehacker> what'd you spend 2 pennies on? 20:24 < kanzure> captchas 20:25 < kanzure> i registered on two captcha human typing networks 20:25 < kanzure> one just asks the other one to solve the captchas for it.. 20:25 < kanzure> and then i take the profit 20:25 < genehacker> so that captcha reader program of yours is making money? 20:26 < kanzure> no i'm not using that right now 20:26 < kanzure> just using humans 20:26 < genehacker> what are you using the humans for? 20:26 < kanzure> to solve the captchas 20:26 < genehacker> for what? 20:26 < kanzure> for the other captcha solving network (which thinks i'm just a really really fast human) 20:27 < genehacker> oh I see 20:27 < kanzure> but in reality i'm like a few hundred wage labors all acting at once 20:27 < kanzure> laborers 20:27 < kanzure> er 20:27 < genehacker> so you're gaming the system 20:27 < kanzure> no this is "business" 20:27 < genehacker> is it profitable? 20:28 < kanzure> dunno yet 20:28 < kanzure> things aren't running yet 20:29 < genehacker> you finish up your finals yet? 20:29 < kanzure> finals? 20:30 < genehacker> yeah finals 20:30 < genehacker> it's finals week 20:34 < genehacker> are even taking classes 20:51 -!- mindspillage [n=kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:01 < kanzure> hm 1% success rate 21:03 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@99.2.31.217] has quit [Client Quit] 21:08 < drazak_> fail 21:10 < kanzure> bah you do better 21:16 -!- any37617078 [n=someone@75-120-36-127.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:19 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: katsmeow-afk 21:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: katsmeow-afk 21:35 -!- katsmeow-afk [n=someone@75-120-36-127.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:39 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-72-179-52-26.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:39 < kanzure> hi jason 21:41 < jasonwohlfahrt> hello there 21:41 < jasonwohlfahrt> did you ever get your presentation video edited down to one video file? 21:42 < jasonwohlfahrt> I wouldn't mind doing this, if you haven't already 21:44 < kanzure> yep 21:45 < kanzure> jasonwohlfahrt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n39RK4inzg 21:45 < kanzure> part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S9z6H_EFqQ 21:45 < jasonwohlfahrt> cool! 21:45 < kanzure> part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edl6uFn3_g4 21:45 < jasonwohlfahrt> now I can share with the friends 21:45 < kanzure> i had to split them up because of youtubes policies 21:45 < QuantumG> I become most aware of the existence of "muscle memory" when I type something while thinking something else.. I can literally see the characters coming out wrong and by the time I figure out that no amount of "executive" control is going to make them come out right there's already 5 or 6 characters. 21:46 < kanzure> is it bad if my muscles remember typing that very same message before, QuantumG? 21:47 < jasonwohlfahrt> hey bryan, I'd love to do a video for your project with the new camera I'm getting 21:47 < kanzure> sounds like fun 21:48 < jasonwohlfahrt> Let me know if you'd like me to make anything in particular. Otherwise, I'll brainstorm some ideas! 21:48 < kanzure> i'd like to hear what you have in mind :) 21:48 < jasonwohlfahrt> I think it would be fun to do some kind of video demo for skdb 21:49 < jasonwohlfahrt> Something under five minutes that would highlight the software 21:49 < kanzure> haha how good are you with teh special effects? 21:50 < jasonwohlfahrt> Actually, I'm fairly proficient, depending on what you want 21:50 < kanzure> world domination? 21:50 < jasonwohlfahrt> Hah 21:50 < kanzure> ok ok 21:50 < kanzure> hm 21:50 < kanzure> one sec 21:51 -!- Utopiah [n=libre@rps7452.ovh.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:51 < genehacker> so you could produce one of those videos we could inject into all media outlets in the world and play at once? 21:51 < kanzure> i was thinking of something like this: 21:51 < kanzure> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBbnT-cIDVM 21:51 < kanzure> i'm not sure though 21:52 < jasonwohlfahrt> That's awesome 21:52 < jasonwohlfahrt> I can definitely do lasers, sparks, and such 21:52 < jasonwohlfahrt> Yeah, I could make you look like a world dominator 21:52 < kanzure> haha i'm really kidding on the world domination part 21:52 < kanzure> i think it would be cool to show someone at a computer typing a command like 21:53 < kanzure> "make me an exoskeleton" 21:53 < kanzure> and one is assembled around the user 21:53 < kanzure> but that's really complicated 21:53 < kanzure> similar things can be done though 21:53 < jasonwohlfahrt> Could be done 21:53 < kanzure> somewhere i saw a video of anime geeks dressing up as transformers 21:53 < jasonwohlfahrt> I love me a challenge 21:53 < kanzure> so when they kneeled down, they "transformed" 21:53 < kanzure> basically they were wearing cardboard boxes 21:54 < jasonwohlfahrt> haha, that sounds awesome 21:54 < genehacker> make an exoskeleton? 21:54 < jasonwohlfahrt> All I need is an image of an exoskeloton and I can do some simple motion tracking 21:55 < kanzure> here was another fun one: 21:55 < genehacker> AR trackers? 21:55 < kanzure> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPSoFYHywJw 21:55 < kanzure> this is also neat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaFceggR1ew 21:55 < ybit> so here 21:55 < ybit> 's the video i have in mind after hearing kanzure's suggestion.. 21:56 -!- tarbo2 [n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:57 < genehacker> you know what would be cool to do sometime? 21:57 < jasonwohlfahrt> huh? 21:58 < ybit> you have a skinny nerd looking guy who is sitting at a computer.. he does 'skdb-get exoskeleton' and you see robot arms flying around him and sparks flying, and within a few secs, the guy looks super cool after a few more commands like 'skdb-get ar-visor' etc.. at the end the guy has replicated earth and he controls it... the tagline 'with skdb, anything is possible, including world domination' 21:58 < genehacker> is once we have enough useful things in SKDB start automatically generating videogame style tech trees 21:58 < genehacker> http://www.maxfreak.com/starcraft2/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/terran-tech-tree1.jpg 21:58 < ybit> this could a 30 sec commercial 21:59 < kanzure> yeah my vote is for way less than 5min 21:59 < ybit> anywho, i'm off to brush up on my java skills 21:59 < jasonwohlfahrt> Yeah 21:59 < jasonwohlfahrt> People get bored after 30 seconds ususally 21:59 < jasonwohlfahrt> which is unfortunate 21:59 < kanzure> you have anything up on youtube? 22:00 < jasonwohlfahrt> Not really, I'm not much of a youtube uploader 22:00 < jasonwohlfahrt> I need to upload more though 22:01 < kanzure> i have about 300 MB of short clips of manufacturing equipment 22:01 < kanzure> all of the clips are in the creative commons 22:01 < jasonwohlfahrt> Sure would be nice to have a camera that shoots 1000 frames per second 22:01 < jasonwohlfahrt> cool 22:02 < kanzure> have you seen koyaanisqatsi? 22:02 < genehacker> http://designgraphics.ncsu.edu/pages/watsonb/teaching/481/notes/pics/civ2chart.jpg 22:02 < jasonwohlfahrt> Yeah, its pretty neat 22:03 < kanzure> have you seen the follow-up, anima mundi? 22:03 < kanzure> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2391673215252131298&ei=6nIgS-uNL53eqAKi3cD4Dw&q=anima+mundi&hl=en&client=iceweasel-a# 22:03 < jasonwohlfahrt> nope 22:03 < kanzure> it's on google there 22:03 < kanzure> anyway if we just have clips in the end maybe that would be useful 22:03 < kanzure> er i mean a good direction 22:04 < kanzure> and throw some 'good' music to it 22:04 < jasonwohlfahrt> indeed 22:04 < jasonwohlfahrt> google video has lots of hidden treasures 22:05 < genehacker> what are we trying to do with the video 22:05 < genehacker> what is the message being communicated 22:05 < kanzure> a demo of skdb being really neat 22:06 < genehacker> what do we have to demo 22:06 < kanzure> legos? 22:07 -!- mindspillage [n=kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:07 < jasonwohlfahrt> it would 22:07 < jasonwohlfahrt> I'll have to think about this 22:07 < genehacker> do we have anything that people would find neat? 22:07 < jasonwohlfahrt> Somehow we should distill your h+ presentation down to 30 seconds to a minute 22:07 < jasonwohlfahrt> and make it very visual, of course 22:07 < kanzure> jasonwohlfahrt: actually i think that could be done just by speeding up fenn's portion... just show those 100 images in a 20 second period 22:07 < kanzure> "download it all in 2010" 22:08 < kanzure> hah 22:08 < genehacker> ok why don't we figure out a way to put all the things fenn showed in the presentation into SKDB? 22:08 < kanzure> because most of them don't have CAD files 22:09 < genehacker> what about just reprap then or that opensource mill thing? 22:09 < kanzure> reprap is a good candidate 22:09 < kanzure> the opensource mill from openmfg doesn't have any CAD 22:09 < genehacker> what about the pillow dome, is that open source? 22:09 -!- mindspillage [n=kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:09 < genehacker> are cad files made of it? 22:09 < kanzure> what? 22:10 < genehacker> otherwise is sufficient data available that cad files can be made for it? 22:10 < QuantumG> btw, has anyone put together a stop-frame video of a reprap being assembled? 22:10 < jasonwohlfahrt> haha 22:10 < jasonwohlfahrt> be back in a little while, gotta take care of something 22:10 < kanzure> maybe that data is hidden genehacker 22:10 < QuantumG> only one I've seen was timelapse of a guy doing it. 22:10 < kanzure> because i haven't found it yet 22:10 < genehacker> no, no one has 22:11 < QuantumG> could you do that with cad? 22:11 < kanzure> if there are models of each component yeah 22:11 -!- Utopiah [n=libre@rps7452.ovh.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:11 < kanzure> somehow i doubt that there are, though :( 22:11 < QuantumG> oh, I thought you had reprap cad 22:11 < kanzure> i don't. but reprap.org might 22:11 < genehacker> reprap changes a lot 22:11 < kanzure> then choose a version 22:12 < genehacker> mendel version at this moment 22:13 < QuantumG> once you have a stop-motion video of reprap being assembled you can prepend timelapse video of it printing its own parts 22:14 < QuantumG> then its actually feasible to *visually* see the self replication promise 22:14 < QuantumG> even if that promise hasn't been realized yet (human labor required) 22:15 < kanzure> human labor isn't the issue 22:15 < QuantumG> its an issue 22:15 < genehacker> it is 22:15 < kanzure> yeah it is an issue 22:16 < genehacker> which is why I want to build something like that moses thing 22:17 < genehacker> except with better unit cell design 22:19 < QuantumG> awesome, I have 7 versions of a source file I wrote 22:19 < QuantumG> manual merging ftl 22:25 -!- wrldpc2 [n=benny@ool-ad03fe34.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:28 < QuantumG> ok, that didn't take long 22:40 < kanzure> enter the letters under the smiling emoticons: http://blog.phpbb.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/captcha_poc.png 22:40 < kanzure> a test made to defeat me it seems :( 22:49 -!- Utopiah_ [n=libre@rps7452.ovh.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:49 -!- Utopiah [n=libre@rps7452.ovh.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:51 -!- jasonwohlfahrt [n=chatzill@cpe-72-179-52-26.austin.res.rr.com] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.15/2009101600]"] 22:52 -!- strages [n=strages@76.29.231.141] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:01 -!- rmond [n=strages@c-76-29-231-141.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:19 -!- kristianpaul [n=kristian@190.7.148.137] has quit ["leaving"] 23:59 -!- branstrom [n=branstro@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit ["Leaving..."]