--- Day changed Sat Dec 19 2009
00:02 < kanzure> she doesn't have a sequencer, no
00:02 < kanzure> also, my head hurts
00:02  * kanzure tries to go back to sleep
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00:18 < genehacker2> perhaps you should you get a new head
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00:22 < katsmeow-afk> i long ago redefined "go to bed" as lay down and think of all the things you could be doing if you weren't in bed"
00:31 < genehacker2> I became immune to sleep last week
00:31 < katsmeow-afk> must be nice
00:32 < katsmeow-afk> i just cannot sleep when i want, like praps an idle time at nite, or an hr here or there
00:41 < ybit> trazodone helps
00:43  * katsmeow-afk whips out googls
00:43 < katsmeow-afk> in case i am depressed or anxious about sleeping?
01:21 < KrisC> skill use  + sleep = learning
01:22 < fenn> why are you sampling where people click?
01:23 < fenn> oh too late
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01:34  * fenn wonders when the spam stuff will get so boring he won't bother posting his progress
01:42 < fenn> hm kjmagnetics sent me a business card instead of a fridge magnet, odd
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02:12 < jasonwohlfahrt> what what, who's out on the roadmap tonight?
02:23 < genehacker2> just the usual
02:24 < genehacker2> sleep immunity as in I can't sleep now
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03:09 < KrisC> i'm beginning to believe there waa aomething missing from that video
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03:50 < fenn> how is it both konsole and gnome-terminal get transparency totally wrong
04:02 < fenn> well at least someone out there had the same idea as me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLz3IscAT38
04:09 < fenn> another one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIT4MhZZCMs
04:13 < Utopiah> nice, no IR or other marker? guess it requires more CPU then
04:14 < Utopiah> hmmm is it using the GPU instead?
04:15 < Utopiah> (huhu, would be nice to have OpenCV recognize patterns when you are tired and startup the coffee machine instantly ;)
04:19  * fenn mumbles something about facehugger robots injecting caffeine directly into the brainstem
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07:40 < JayDugger> What URL leads to the DIY laser cutter shown in the 2nd video of the SKDB presentation?
07:46 < JayDugger> Gack. The whole presentation from hplus2009 needs a link dump.
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08:52 < kanzure> JayDugger: pester fenn for the linkdump
09:01 < fenn> JayDugger: http://adl.serveftp.org/dokuwiki/skdb_presentation
09:02 < fenn> or just google for 'imajilon laser'
09:04 < kanzure> http://code.google.com/p/cl-mill/ '
09:04 < kanzure> http://code.google.com/p/cl-mill/ '
09:04 < kanzure> CL-MILL is a CNC milling application generating G-Code, built in Common Lisp. I use this for all my CNC work, hope you find it useful or so.
09:04 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/nycrled "This is a public NYCResistor group focused on LED projects." hahah
09:12 < JayDugger> Duh, "check google." I consider my wrist slapped.
09:12 < JayDugger> Thank you.
09:12 < kanzure> JayDugger: no there's actually a lot of links on the skdb_presentation page
09:13 < kanzure> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2258/2210335514_619902c08b.jpg
09:13 < JayDugger> Gack! Attention depletion warning. :)
09:14 < JayDugger> I've only so much time before my girlfriend awakes and my time no longer belongs to me.
09:17 < kanzure> sounds like a bad relationship
09:17 < JayDugger> Heh. I exaggerate, at least a little.
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09:28 < jasonwohlfahrt> What's up, dudes?
09:29 < jasonwohlfahrt> You there, bryan?
09:31 < kanzure> yes
09:32 < jasonwohlfahrt> im gonna talk to my father today to find out what day we can drive down and check out his machine shop
09:33 < jasonwohlfahrt> I'll have to check, but maybe we can bring along a few other people
09:33 < kanzure> there's not many others
09:33 < jasonwohlfahrt> true
09:33 < kanzure> right now i am very anti-people, and i think i was sick last night
09:33 < jasonwohlfahrt> I see
09:33 < kanzure> woke up at midnight with this really intense pain in my head
09:33 < jasonwohlfahrt> :(
09:34 < jasonwohlfahrt> Yeah, people can suck
09:34 < kanzure> time for some breakfast
09:34 < jasonwohlfahrt> me too
09:34 < jasonwohlfahrt> be back in a bit
09:39 < Martyn> kanzure : Is that two scanners turned into a plotter?
09:40 < Martyn> OH!  Laser cutter .. neat
09:42 < kanzure> heh eric hunting just watched the youtube videos :)
09:42 < kanzure> guess he really is slow
09:43 < kanzure> who is our usability expert? what should gnusha.com have instead
09:43 < jasonwohlfahrt> made any progress on the cherrypy file, kanzure?
09:44 < kanzure> no i've been sleeping since we last spoke
09:44 < jasonwohlfahrt> cool, sleep is good :)
09:44 < kanzure> user authentication is working, but there's no registration
09:46 < Martyn> I'm playing with a 2 axis gantry this morning .. basically an old Flashcut CNC rig without the head.   EMC2 on linux is quite impressive
09:46 < kanzure> is flashcut a brand?
09:46 < Martyn> yeah
09:47 < Martyn> http://www.flashcutcnc.com/8300_prototyping_mill.php
09:47 < kanzure> dave rauchwerk in our neck of the woods wants to go dumpster diving and auctiondiving for old cnc machines,
09:47 < Martyn> It's also software and a control box / mill
09:47 < kanzure> gut out their controllers, and replace it with emc2 compatible ware
09:47 < Martyn> More power to him :)
09:48 < Martyn> I'm having all kinds of issues just getting this one to work.
09:49 < kanzure> anything in particular?
09:49 < Martyn> (I believe one of the control boards has fried)
09:49 < jasonwohlfahrt> hey kanzure, I might have an older tv for you soon, if you're interested
09:49 < kanzure> we have at least one emc developer in here
09:49 < kanzure> jasonwohlfahrt: dunno. let me think :)
09:49 < Martyn> Oh, it's not software .. this is a hardware issue for sure
09:49 < jasonwohlfahrt> cool
09:49 < jasonwohlfahrt> it would be free, of course. but ill let you think on that
09:49 < Martyn> heh, someone here at the Riata complex was -throwing away- a 32" LCD screen
09:50 < jasonwohlfahrt> nice
09:50 < Martyn> Yeah, I asked what was wrong, and they said the backlight quit .. after which I pointed out it could be /fixed/
09:50 < jasonwohlfahrt> and nice to meet you, martyn. don't believe we've met on here before
09:50 < Martyn> I hate people who would rather throw away something than try to get it repaired
09:50 < jasonwohlfahrt> me too
09:50 < jasonwohlfahrt> dumpster diving is where it's at
09:51 < Martyn> Hey :)  Nice to 'meet' you as well.   I'm sure we'll meet soon enough in person
09:51 < jasonwohlfahrt> indeed
09:51 < Martyn> (If you're in the Austin area)
09:51 < jasonwohlfahrt> i am. you can furnish an entire house out of dumpsters. met a guy once who did
09:51 < Martyn> Well, I don't dumpster dive anymore (used to back in the Silicon Valley, near the factories .. got a lot of Seagate hardware that way)
09:51 < jasonwohlfahrt> cool
09:52 < Martyn> In any case .. yeah, I fixed the TV and brought it back to my office to use as a monitor for presentations
09:52 < Martyn> 1920x1080p .. I mean .. sheesh!
09:53 < Martyn> Gave him $40 for it, and I think it's the best $40 + $35 (for a new cold cathode tube) that I ever spent
09:53 < jasonwohlfahrt> that's awesome!
09:53 < Martyn> although installing the new backlight tube was, to be sure, not simple.  Those things are long, and very delicate
09:53 < jasonwohlfahrt> hmmm, still that's a mad bargain
09:54 < Martyn> Yeah, these TV's are $400-500 new .. sometimes more than $800!
09:54 < jasonwohlfahrt> when I live with my parents, my dad would go through my trash to make sure I didn't throw away anything that could still be used
09:54 < jasonwohlfahrt> I used to be wasteful like that
09:57 < jasonwohlfahrt> hey bryan, do you archive all of the chat transcripts
09:57 < kanzure> yep
09:57 < jasonwohlfahrt> there's been a few times where I wanted to save what had transpired, but forgot to
09:58 < jasonwohlfahrt> awesome
09:58 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplusroadmap.log.tar.gz
09:58 < jasonwohlfahrt> very cool, thanks
09:58 < kanzure> just for fun, a list of all links that we have sent back and forth: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplusroadmap-urls.txt
09:58 < Martyn> Oh gods...
09:58 < Martyn> I'm sure there are LOLcats in there
09:59 < kanzure> Martyn: i checked, and there's only lolcode.com
09:59 < kanzure> and only four icanhascheezburger.com links
09:59 < jasonwohlfahrt> haha, you just reminded me of my xmas gift for my mother
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12:00 < kanzure> i'm getting HTTP 422 back from a server i'm playing with, "unprocessable entity"
12:00 < kanzure> but i'm not sending anything interesting to them
12:00 < kanzure> standard asci..
12:00 < kanzure> *ascii
12:02 < kanzure> 11:46 < hlfshell> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/fubarlabs-live-stream we're participating in the synchronous hackathon and streaming live
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12:07 < kanzure> aubrey de grey emailed me :(
12:07 < kanzure> "Hi Bryan,
12:07 < kanzure> I've just been alerted to your transcript of my talk at the Irvine meeting:
12:07 < kanzure> http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2009/aubrey-de-grey.html
12:07 < kanzure> It's... not very good. Not least, and this is how I was alerted to it, it contains a gross mis-representation of my view of the Methuselah Foundation. I'm sure you didn't intend anything, but this is not at all helpful."
12:07 < kanzure> "I'm grateful for your efforts in getting such transcripts up, because I've done such things before and I know how much work it is, but it's really imperative that you run the draft by the speaker before putting it online."
12:07 < kanzure> "If you direct me to the audio from which you did it, I will do some corrections at once, but in the meantime please take the current version down without delay, and le me know when you've done so."
12:08 < kanzure> but.. there was no audio
12:09 < genehacker2> heh
12:10 < genehacker2> are you sure that's even aubrey?
12:10 < kanzure> yeah we've emailed back and forth a few times
12:10 < kanzure> aubrey@sens.org, adg2424, etc.
12:11 < kanzure> hm there seems to be a direct proportion between the number of times i say 'bloody' in an email and how british the _receiver_ of my message is
12:12 < genehacker2> you told him already?
12:13 < kanzure> yeah
12:26 < jasonwohlfahrt> yum yum, just ate a frozen dinner that actually tasted good. I guess i'd rather not taste good when I'm frozen, lest some futuristic cannibals try to feast on my body
12:28 < kanzure> QuantumG: do you have sutton on your shelf?
12:28 < genehacker2> oh lol that orbo company is having an online demonstration today
12:29 < genehacker2> it looks like they were able to get funding from stupid investors because they seem to have a pretty fancy website
12:31 < genehacker2> stream offline
12:32 < genehacker2> guess something went wrong...
12:36 < Utopiah> (unrelated) any visualization of Google Books?
12:39 < kanzure> covers?
12:39 < Utopiah> more like a visual network explorer, maybe with position based on number of citations and color based on year
12:40 < Utopiah> (eventually above the cover the most frequently used expressions)
12:40 < kanzure> Utopiah: if you want to play with data, check out http://trendingtopics.org/
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13:11 < kanzure> people to talk to: http://www.gnu.org/thankgnus/2009supporters.html
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14:09 < genehacker2> hmmm... apparently a UT prof one a most cited award for some viral nano assembly stuff
14:37 < genehacker2> fenn check this out:
14:38 < genehacker2> this would make a perfect delivery UAV:http://www.anigrand.com/AA2037_XV-2.htm
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16:04 < ybit> yum, sushi
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16:36 < genehacker2> eating raw fish ybit?
16:44 < ybit> raw veggies
16:44 < ybit> needing some soy sauce
17:28 < QuantumG> kanzure: sutton is in the mail, delivery next year probably
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18:23 < genehacker2> who or what is this sutton you speak of?
19:36 < kanzure> rocketry book
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23:20 < ybit> kanzure: combining the localization thingy with internet 0 would make me happy