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11:33 < ybit> it should be rather easy to push cubespawn to the top 10 since pepsi is just going by votes
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12:04 < kanzure> superkuh: nevermind, not going to make it.
12:04 < kanzure> ybit: what's the prize money?
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12:09 < kanzure> hm, $25k
12:09 < kanzure> how many votes does he need?
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12:35 < ybit> anyone know Marianne Rugard Jarvstrat?
12:45 < kanzure> i think i can get him the votes he needs for the refresheverything whatever
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14:29 < Utopiah> ybit: http://failblog.org/2010/02/01/financial-advice-fail/
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14:43 < ybit> Utopiah: haha
14:56 < ybit> how much to build a decent laser cutter?...
14:56 < ybit> hrm..
14:56 < kanzure> you can buy one for $1k (40W, 12x12 inch work area), so please build under that cost level
15:03 < fenn> no guarantee if it works though
15:03 < fenn> ybit: figure $3k to build from parts
15:04 < fenn> for a 45W acrylic/plywood cutter
15:05 < ybit> fenn: how much did you spend in creating your lathe?
15:06 < ybit> s/creating/building
15:06 < fenn> i had to buy a lot of tools
15:07 < fenn> http://fennetic.net/irc/lathe-bom-sort.html 
15:08 < fenn> so something like $600
15:09 < fenn> or $900 depending on how you look at it
15:09 < kanzure> upside down?
15:10 < kanzure> 009
15:10 < fenn> heh
15:10 < kanzure> also, hi
15:18 < Utopiah> http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~lbn/new_pages/Research_Turing.html
15:21 < ybit> hrm..
15:23 < ybit> alright, grab your torches and critique http://bayimg.com/image/caknnaacb.jpg
15:24 < fenn> how about a text file?
15:24 < ybit> they only allow you to include so much
15:25 < ybit> http://designfiles.org/skdb/doc/BOMs/pcr gives me plenty to work with
15:25 < fenn> $10k is probably too high for the CNC mill, unless you are going seriously overboard
15:25 < ybit> but i figure since it's classified as a replab/fablab/thing, mostly general fab equipment
15:25 < ybit> ..mostly
15:26 < ybit> guess i need to take off the bio stuff for the time being
15:26 < fenn> what is this, kickstarter?
15:27 < ybit> and include some stuff for electronics, e.g. soldering irons, wire strippers, and lots of general stuff
15:27 < ybit> pepsi
15:27 < ybit> http://www.refresheverything.com/
15:27 < fenn> oh, good luck
15:27 < ybit> i guess it couldn't hurt to aim for the 250k prize, right? :)
15:28  * fenn snorts
15:28 < ybit> hehe
15:28 < ybit> i do need some type of realistic BOM though
15:29 < fenn> you're competing against girl scouts in a popularity contest
15:30 < ybit> *cough*
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15:31 < fenn> kind of unfair, once you get onto the top ten list you get on the front page with a big 'vote for this idea' button
15:35 < fenn> some of these don't even make sense - how you gonna build a house while riding a bike?
15:37 < ybit> i would pay to watch that 
15:41 < kanzure> it looks like $50k on that screenshot
15:41 < ybit> yeah
15:41 < ybit> i'm going for the $50k prize
15:41 < ybit> and i remove the bio stuff
15:41 < ybit> removed*
15:41 < kanzure> anyway, they won't approve you until march
15:42 < kanzure> they allow you to vote if you can solve a captcha
15:42 < kanzure> http://decaptcher.com/ solves captchas pretty cheaply
15:42 < kanzure> so i'll hook up my captcha bot and get james his $25k
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15:57 < ybit> oi genehacker 
15:58 < ybit> http://www.google.com/grants/
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16:17 < ybit> speaking uof the asshole ;-)
16:17 < ybit> s/uof/of
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16:19 < ybit> so factor-e-farm crew spent $20k on building the tractor, hrm. that' sabout what it costs for a decent one
16:19 < ybit> we've got about four on the farm
16:19 < ybit> two that are actually operable 
16:19 < ybit> and seven bushhogs :P
16:19 < ybit> two operable
16:20 < ybit> the nicests one we have cost about $20k to purchase
16:20 < ybit> nicest
16:20 < kanzure> heh it's easier for me to just straight up interpret this input as yaml instead of the json it claims to be.
16:21 < kanzure> here's how the json peeps serialize objects:
16:21 < kanzure> http://www.marcstober.com/blog/2007/07/07/serializing-arbitrary-python-objects-to-json-using-__dict__/
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17:23 < flamt> 18:24 < flamt> no its child porn like in charles stross's Generation Gap
17:23 < flamt> 18:24 < flamt> Scientology and Singularity are both fronts for some National Geographic of child porn
17:24 < flamt> 18:24 < flamt> they implanted me in '08 in case i got some tiny girlfriend again but all girls were too smart
17:24 < flamt> 18:24 < flamt> now they are trying to gaslight me with it but i know what it is
17:24 < flamt> 18:25 < flamt> i dated a chick they used in some shit thats how i know and she was from my computers club 2600 thats why
17:24 < flamt> 18:25 < flamt> maybe because i mentioned scientology on my blog after disinfo.com linked some sites abvout them
17:24 < flamt> 18:25 < flamt> was like 15
17:24 < flamt> not really like, throwing my name into the hat
17:24 < flamt> not on purpose
17:24 < flamt> what should i do
17:25 < flamt> or im just like jesus and its still ok i dunno yet
17:26 < flamt> jesus is bad though
17:26 < flamt> moral test, well, trap
17:26 < flamt> well test
17:26 < flamt> from aliens
17:26 < flamt> wow thats why we got the dark ages i mean man but i didnt figure that out just now or anything christ
17:27 < ybit> i'm reminded of http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/02/01/0553259/Students-Failing-Because-of-Poor-Grammar?from=rss right about now
17:28 < fenn> flamt: please shut up and/or go away
17:29 < flamt> that's just cruel if what i'm saying were true you didn't even think of that
17:29 < flamt> you're cruel
17:29 < fenn> yes
17:29 < flamt> as heck
17:29 < flamt> brb >_>
17:36 < genehacker> I am confused
17:37 < fenn> hi genehacker, what's new?
17:38 < genehacker> not much
17:38 < fenn> ^-^
17:47 < fenn> WARNING: Terrorists crashed an airplane into the server room, have to remove /bin/laden. (rm -rf /bin/laden)
17:48 < kanzure> just to be safe flamt, you should rm -rf /bin/
17:54 < ybit> are you sure that's safe kanzure, he should try sudo rm /* just to be safe
17:55  * fenn suggests gasoline and nitrous oxide
17:55 < fenn> the bonus is that you'll get high before you burn to death
17:55 < kanzure> yay
17:56 < kanzure> that's good right?
17:56 < fenn> as long as you don't get caught; suicide is illegal
18:00 < ybit> in what state is this?
18:01 < ybit> and in what era?
18:02  * ybit rests
18:14 < ybit> ya know, that was dangerous of me to suggest rm /*, i forgot -rf
18:19 < ybit> Utopiah: was it you that hosted the documentary about the group living on the Mesa?
18:19 < ybit> i thought it was decent
18:25 < fenn> > hey, um, shouldn't this be flipped horizontally to make a "C"?
18:25 < fenn> > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3483/4013121693_1fc3a5cb20_o.png
18:25 < fenn> "this was the original mockup but then we flipped it so it would look
18:25 < fenn> more like copyleft as opposed to copyright
18:26 < fenn> (contraptor logo)
18:37 < Utopiah> ybit: yes, I shared it before watching it actually, I think it was interesting, not mind blowing but it was more like some comtempory anthroplogy, alternative lifestyles with their exciting and crapy sides of the same coin
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19:01 < fenn> i dont get what makes openscad better/different from POV-RAY
19:05 < kanzure> "makerbot people like it!"
19:05 < kanzure> or "zach likes it!"
19:05 < kanzure> fyi there was a very high concentration of sarcasm encoded in those messages
19:14 < fenn> who is eightpennies? sounds familiar
19:14 < ybit> it is i
19:15 < fenn> "4x the content of a typical email!"
19:15 < fenn> ybit: you arent that clueful :P
19:15 < ybit> i get the name because i have this habit i can't kick where i toss eight pennies at every slut i fsck
19:16 < ybit> "wtf are you doing weirdo?" "i'm filesystem checking you, what does it look like!"
19:16 < kanzure> fenn: he posts to diybio every once in a while
19:16 < ybit> bam! eight pennis go flying
19:16 < ybit> pennies*
19:17 < fenn> i dont know why he jumps to all the doomsaying though
19:17 < kanzure> in which document/email?
19:18 < ybit> i left another message with mitch free today 
19:18 < ybit> also his twitter is http://twitter.com/mitchfree stalk away
19:20 < fenn> nor do i agree with his assessment "viral vector design is beyond our resources now"
19:20 < fenn> you don't need "mindshare" to design a vector, you need one competent person
19:21 < ybit> i see no doomsaying from him, just a bunch of requests for papers and the mention of caloric restriction
19:23 < fenn> this was an email kanzure forwarded.. (forwarded to ybit)
19:24 < fenn> "stranger from the internet"
19:24 < fenn> hm crap it's 5:30 i gotta watch a stupid video so i dont sound like an idiot tonight
19:24  * fenn is going to "android experimenters" group
19:27  * ybit rests a bit
19:29  * nsh just watched this (Sugar: the bitter truth, Robert Lustig, MD) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
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19:48 < fenn> wow, there are already 20,000 apps available in android market
19:59 < ybit> i saw that last night
20:09 < kanzure> dr treadwell cried when he read this http://xkcd.com/695/ (spirit rover)
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20:20 < ybit> what that :'( or a :')
20:21 < kanzure> :'(
20:21 < ybit> aww
20:22 < ybit> my aunt is giving me her sob story of not being able to find a microscope for herself in this town pre-internet days
20:22 < ybit> there's a lot of sadness spreading atm
20:22 < kanzure> use a fecking drop of water
20:22 < ybit> uhuh 
20:25 < kanzure> fenn: i take it you liked the email?
20:27 < fenn> eightpennies? yeah i guess; he's adequately clueful
20:27 < kanzure> hm gmail is spontaneously generating my schedule for wednesday
20:27 < kanzure> "you have this scheduled for 1pm, and this scheduled for 2pm"
20:28 < kanzure> about time.
20:28  * fenn was supposed to leave ~15 min ago.. 
20:28 < kanzure> it's only because you're a bad person
20:31 < fenn> actually i'm waiting for someone to show up
20:36 < kanzure> it's really funny seeing eightpennies type in shorthand
20:36 < kanzure> "bryan if this is irrelevant 2 u then u should delete this asap!!!!!!"
20:36 < kanzure> *attachment of 200 papers about longevity*
20:40 < kanzure> does anyone else find it sad that anyone who's run a gel has more wetware experience than aubrey?
20:49 < fenn> aubrey seems to know what he's talking about
20:49 < kanzure> yeah but there's been controversy over his work
20:50 < kanzure> i haven't sorted out the mess yet
20:50 < kanzure> supposedly someone, somewhere has some legit claims against the particular approaches that he is using
20:50 < kanzure> but for some reason it became an attack of his character? blah blah blah
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20:52 < fenn> its the beard tha tdoes it
20:53 < fenn> is there a project roadmap for SENS?
20:55 < kanzure> yes
20:55 < kanzure> 26 MB of goodies on that: http://heybryan.org/transhuman/Aubrey.zip
21:03 < fenn> whatever happened to servers automatically zipping/unzipping files for you?
21:03  * fenn is thinking archie/ftp days
21:03 < fenn> all you had to do was append .tgz or .zip to the url
21:04 < kanzure> is archie older or younger than gopher?
21:04 < fenn> sites like this: http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/
21:05 < kanzure> i'm sure there's an apache plugin i could throw on
21:06 < fenn> http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/pictures/fun/baselope.jpg
21:10 < fenn> http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/pictures/vehicles/aircraft/gripen4.jpg
21:11 < fenn> heh http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/pictures/vehicles/aircraft/mig-29-burning-1.jpg
21:13 < fenn> i didnt realize the yf-23 was so old (1994) http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/pictures/vehicles/aircraft/yf23b.jpg
21:15 < fenn> i spend countless hours playing F22 for sega genesis
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21:23 < kanzure> hey JayDugger 
21:23 < JayDugger> Good evening.
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21:29 < kanzure> heh "i'm cooler than the other side of the pillow"
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21:42 < jdugger> i hate the interwebs
21:42 < jdugger> Any IPv6 experts?
21:56 < kanzure> heh
21:57 < kanzure> "my favorite black hole" http://brown.armoredpenguin.com/~abrown/BlackHole/index.html
22:05 < kanzure> yummy, i like termcasts: http://kitenet.net/~joey/termcast/
22:17 < ybit> that is interesting
22:18 < ybit> instead of walking someone through via do "foo bar" in a chat session, you can just talk to them and say hey, watch what i do here
22:19 < ybit> and you can avoid the, "and don't include the quotes" or "ignore the less than and greater than symbols <blah>"
22:29 < jdugger> Or you can watch someone else play nethack.
22:32 < jdugger> Anyway, I have to go to work. Bryan, the problem was on my end. I'd done "apt-get install miredo" three weeks ago, right before vacation, and I'd completely forgotten about it.
22:32 < jdugger> Good night, all.
22:33 < ybit> gn jdugger 
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