--- Day changed Tue Feb 16 2010 00:04 < kanzure> http://pdfpirate.net/ 00:50 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-55-176.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:58 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-55-176.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:58 < genehacker> http://www.materialsviews.com/matview/display/en/1389/TEXT 00:58 < genehacker> 100 mm long nanotubes 01:00 < ybit> if you have time to waste on movies, give 'district 9' a go 01:01 < QuantumG> I liked it 01:04 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:04 < Redeemer> Evenin 01:10 * katsmeow-afk ponders driving up to ybit to go see it with 01:11 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:12 < genehacker> district 9 is meh 01:12 < katsmeow-afk> ok, nm 01:12 < genehacker> though the mecha scene is cool 01:13 < QuantumG> I'll take meh over "fucking hollywood, fuck you." 01:14 < genehacker> star wars live action tv show 01:15 < QuantumG> have you seen the starwars phantom menace review? 01:15 < QuantumG> http://www.youtube.com/user/RedLetterMedia#p/u/15/FxKtZmQgxrI 01:16 < QuantumG> his Star Trek reviews are great too. 01:16 -!- any82147396 [~someone@75-120-18-113.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:16 < genehacker> no 01:17 -!- katsmeow-afk [~someone@75-120-18-113.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 01:17 -!- any82147396 is now known as katsmeow-afk 01:17 * katsmeow-afk growls at the southern isp 02:19 < genehacker> http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/ 02:19 < genehacker> wooo asteroids are rubble piles 02:24 < fenn> mm post valentine's sale candy 02:51 < genehacker> http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=921 02:51 < genehacker> FANUC factory for FANUC robots 03:25 -!- Phreedom__ [~freedom@195.216.211.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:27 -!- Phreedom__ [~freedom@195.216.211.175] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:57 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-55-176.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:26 -!- flamt [~root@69.158.93.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:27 -!- flamt [~root@70.50.178.32] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:44 -!- flamt [~root@70.50.178.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:46 -!- flamt [~root@bas2-barrie18-1242454984.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:18 -!- flamt [~root@bas2-barrie18-1242454984.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:20 -!- flamt [~root@64.229.42.44] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:00 -!- root [~root@bas2-barrie18-1242454856.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:00 -!- flamt [~root@64.229.42.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:00 -!- root is now known as flamoot 08:12 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-103-101.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:55 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:35 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-103-101.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:39 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-103-101.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:10 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-103-101.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:57 -!- Phreedom_ [~freedom@195.216.211.175] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:57 -!- Phreedom__ [~freedom@195.216.211.175] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:13 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:43 < kanzure> dunno what this is http://cleigh6.tripod.com/polly/sweetsurrender.txt 11:43 < kanzure> oh, xfiles 11:50 < Utopiah> http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/02/data-not-drugs.html 12:55 < kanzure> stalk: David Layzer (astrophysicist) 12:56 < kanzure> "Laßwitz-Borges Library" i get the borges reference, but not the other half 12:57 < kanzure> stalk: Antony Valentini 13:05 < kanzure> christian siefkes is asking for help on the pythonocc mailing list 13:05 < kanzure> yet more evidence? 13:19 < kanzure> http://dev.forums.reprap.org/read.php?131,9274,9297#msg-9293 14:05 -!- katsmeow-afk [~someone@75-120-18-113.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:08 -!- any88199303 [~someone@75-120-217-58.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:09 * any88199303 growls a lot of cusswords at the local powerco 14:09 -!- any88199303 is now known as katsmeow 14:58 < kanzure> http://brlcad.org/wiki/Libpg_:_A_parametrics/constraint_library 14:58 < kanzure> http://brlcad.org/wiki/Constraint_Satisfaction 14:59 < kanzure> just for a reference again 14:59 < kanzure> i know they are old 14:59 < kanzure> http://brlcad.org/wiki/A_Survey_of_Implicit_Constraints_in_Primitives 15:02 < kanzure> "global energy money. it's current, see?" <--- sam putman should not be allowed to make bad puns 15:07 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:22 < kanzure> " 15:22 < kanzure> " 15:22 < kanzure> Considering the world soon has a population of 7 billion people, on which 1.7 billion people use the internet [internetworldstats.com] and usually people have several email addresses, it means it's still probably like 0.1-0.2 spam messages per day per person. Add filters to that which caught most of the spam and the 3 billion per day isn't actually that large number. 15:22 < kanzure> 1.7B users on the internet: http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm 15:22 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:39 -!- katsmeow is now known as katsmeow-afk 15:41 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-237-18.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:11 < kanzure> http://camvox.sf.net/ 16:11 < fenn> i just had the most awesome dream 16:14 < fenn> i was tricked into being locked away in my father's secret medical lab, but i had a startup venture funding meeting to go to! furious, i break out through one of the glass partitions (without actually breaking the glass) only to find that my shoes are not where i left them. so instead, i invent FLIP-DOWN SEGWAY POGO BOOTS from scratch 16:15 < fenn> at which point i realize it's such an awesome idea i have to wake up in order to write it down 16:19 < kanzure> nice links here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2002976/constructive-solid-geometry-mesh 16:20 < kanzure> flip-down? 16:21 < kanzure> Merging BSP trees yields polyhedral set operations (Naylor, 1990) http://designfiles.org/papers/Merging%20BSP%20trees%20yields%20polyhedral%20set%20operations%20-%20Naylor.pdf 16:22 < fenn> hard to find images of this... imagine it's strapped to your calf but folded up so that nothing actually touches the ground 16:23 < fenn> with a hinge joint about halfway up, perpendicular to the knee axis of rotation 16:23 < kanzure> oh i mis-read 16:23 < kanzure> a mechanical thingy capable of flipping down 16:23 < fenn> more like stilts than boots i guess 16:24 < QuantumG> yeah, that's the cleanest technique, it's also the most inflexible. binary operations on arbitrary b-reps is more flexible.. you can use any b-rep you find, no matter how "non-primitive". 16:24 < kanzure> can you link to a paper or algorithm for that 16:25 < fenn> man, some of these people really get into it http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3561/3852431096_196d7d0fcc.jpg 16:25 < QuantumG> http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.70.4998&rep=rep1&type=pdf 16:25 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-237-18.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:25 < QuantumG> Constructive Solid Geometry for Polyhedral Objects 16:26 < kanzure> http://www.kimbell-associates.com/Chiefs%20Site/07-01-08_segway.jpg 16:26 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-237-18.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:26 < kanzure> i like the handicap tag 16:26 < kanzure> it's a wheelchair 16:26 < QuantumG> wow, that guy must be a pimp with the ladies 16:26 < kanzure> something about tagging a segway with a symbol of a wheelchair.. just seems funny 16:27 < QuantumG> the whole "still need working legs" thing 16:27 < kanzure> Constructive Solid Geometry for Polyhedral Objects http://www.cs.brown.edu/~jfh/papers/Laidlaw-CSG-1986/main.htm 16:28 < kanzure> paper.pdf wow what a creative filename 16:30 < fenn> i'm not entirely sure of the message he's trying to convey 16:31 < QuantumG> "I may be disabled, but my legs still work ladies, and check out this cape!" 16:38 < fenn> this is just begging to get hacked on http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/13/zeal-optics-bringing-gps-sensor-laden-transcend-ski-goggles-to/ 16:38 < ybit> can anyone read these files: http://ybit.ath.cx/cad/tmote-flat-connect-emb.sch and http://ybit.ath.cx/cad/probe-lp.sch 16:39 < ybit> eagle cad complains that its invalid data 16:42 < kanzure> geda should be able to read it 16:44 < ybit> drr 16:44 < ybit> i thought it was created in eagle 17:16 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-39-17.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:53 -!- ve [~a@smith.xen.tardis.ed.ac.uk] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:59 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-39-17.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:47 < fenn> i randomly found a thin asian girl on okcupid who, it turns out, reads dresden codak and likes to watch porn <_< this isn't supposed to happen 18:48 < kanzure> fenn has a thing for asian girls? 18:48 < fenn> apparently 18:48 < QuantumG> who doesn't 18:48 < kanzure> a lot of them have a thing for dresden codak 18:49 < fenn> are you basing this on observation or snark factor? 18:49 < kanzure> observation 18:50 < kanzure> i had to tell her that i met aaron once 18:50 < kanzure> and randomly in the middle of our conversation i realized who he was 18:50 < kanzure> "YOU ARE A GOD" (well, these weren't my exact words) 18:50 < fenn> on the internet, nobody knows you're a god... 18:51 < fenn> or something like that 18:51 < kanzure> in person, you mean 18:52 < fenn> who could forget a face like this? http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2527/3982700464_87703d7d15.jpg 19:16 < kanzure> 16:57:11 omg/jblake: seriouspost: levenshtein distance on extended soundex hashes is a not-terrible metric 19:19 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:30f6:6119:52c6:ef50] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:27 < kanzure> hey JayDugger 19:27 < JayDugger> Hi, kanzure. 19:27 < JayDugger> Up early^H^H^H^H^Hon time, so once I finish this coffee cup, I'll start editing. 19:33 < fenn> i do not envy you, sir 19:36 < fenn> python used to come with soundex hashing built-in, but now i can't even find a package for it? 19:37 < fenn> also, how does the algorithm know how something is pronounced in the first place? 19:42 < kanzure> IPA? 19:43 < kanzure> international phonetic alphabet 19:43 < kanzure> doesn't dict tend to have ipa strings attached to each entry? 19:44 < fenn> dict? 19:44 < fenn> names aren't usually in dictionaries are they? 19:45 < fenn> um, nevermind, you arent talking about names 20:20 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:44 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:46 < kanzure> "chlorophyll collective"? 21:05 < JayDugger> OSHBM (Open Source Hardware Business Models) 21:05 < JayDugger> OSHBM: How do I enable RSS feeds in Google Docs? 21:05 < JayDugger> Yes, I read the un-help. 21:05 < JayDugger> It refers to non-existent menu selections. 21:07 < JayDugger> I'd like the feed for revisions to work. 21:09 < JayDugger> A common problem, and suspicious. I bet it's on Google's end. 21:10 < JayDugger> Help Forum thread: http://tinyurl.com/yhwuy7d 21:11 < kanzure> sam putman claimed he didn't want to read OSHBM because it had too many revisions 21:11 < kanzure> i think he's just trying to find an excuse 21:11 < JayDugger> Perhaps he'll later reconsider. 21:12 < kanzure> how? it will have even more revisions 21:12 < kanzure> what a silly excuse 21:12 < JayDugger> Editing might settle down as the document matures. 21:14 < JayDugger> OTOH, perhaps he politely meant "No." 21:14 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/international-lunar-resarch-park/web/lunar-bootstrapping-sequence?hl=en 21:15 < JayDugger> Do they include Step #0) Get to Earth Orbit, aka "Halfway to Anywhere?" 21:19 < QuantumG> kanzure: so can you cut and paste the contents of that link? I can't see it cause I'm not a member (and don't wanna be one) 21:20 < kanzure> t's not as interesting as it sounds. it's just a giant list of poorly thought out manufacturing processes 21:21 < QuantumG> ahh 21:21 < JayDugger> kanzure, have you read Freitas's NASA study on self-reproducing automata? Not KSRM, but the earlier one. 21:21 < kanzure> but i just sent it to om if you're interested 21:21 < kanzure> JayDugger: yes 21:21 < kanzure> JayDugger: http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://www.islandone.org/MMSG/aasm/AASM53.html%23536&usg=AFQjCNE-qoXDS5g1R0jVJ-o9od_Vuf-FVw 21:21 < kanzure> oops 21:21 < JayDugger> Does it match his throughness? 21:21 < kanzure> http://www.islandone.org/MMSG/aasm/AASM53.html#536 21:21 < JayDugger> Yes, I've a copy. 21:22 < kanzure> to be honest, i was kind of sad that AASM didn't go into the actual details of verification and so on 21:22 < kanzure> "generic system A, generic system B" 21:22 < kanzure> anybody could draw up diagrams like that.. 21:22 < JayDugger> Yes. 21:22 < kanzure> but i did like how he discussed self-replication and the issue of "closure" 21:22 < kanzure> here are some of my favorite excerpts from AASM: 21:22 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing/msg/e4c375acce772250 21:23 -!- kristian1aul [~kristianp@190.7.148.137] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:23 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.7.148.137] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:23 < JayDugger> OSHBM: Added your emailed to-do list (sans pleasant compliment) to OSHBM's To-Do section. 21:24 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnepropetrovsk_maniacs 21:24 < kanzure> 3Guys1Hammer? 21:25 < JayDugger> "Real horrorshow," as Anthony Burgess might say. ;) 21:27 < JayDugger> Hmm...Google Docs automatically prunes revisions. http://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=95902 21:47 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-237-18.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:53 < JayDugger> OSHBM: Moving contributions request list to separate spreadsheet. 22:02 < JayDugger> OSHBM Requested Contributors spreadsheet at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AgY8iyNeuVgwdEY3MFFtUmFueFdlMXNLOHI0R1dhUmc&hl=en 22:04 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:04 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:08 -!- Phreedom_ [~freedom@195.216.211.175] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13 < JayDugger> OSHBM: All done for now...DECIDE on method to INVITE contributors...DECIDE on answer to inevitable "Why not a wiki for this?" 22:13 < JayDugger> OSHBM: INVITE contributors. 22:14 < JayDugger> Good night, all. 22:14 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:30f6:6119:52c6:ef50] has left #hplusroadmap [] 23:00 -!- hplusbot` [ybit@dhcp-84-36.me.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:04 -!- hplusbot [ybit@dhcp-84-36.me.utexas.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:04 -!- hplusbot` is now known as hplusbot 23:08 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:17 -!- Phreedom__ [~freedom@195.216.211.175] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:47 < kanzure> "Everyone knows Ubuntu is an ancient African word for "I can't configure Debian". How come you can't configure Debian but were able to create a whole other distro?"