--- Day changed Wed Feb 17 2010 00:11 -!- hplusbot [ybit@dhcp-84-36.me.utexas.edu] has quit [Quit: Ctrl-C at console.] 00:11 -!- hplusbot [ybit@dhcp-84-36.me.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:15 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:18 < Phreedom__> kanzure: ubuntu is what users say, not devs :) 00:21 < Phreedom__> kanzure: mark shuttleworth though has a particularly bad case of a NIH syndrome 00:54 -!- any10975502 [~someone@75-121-61-98.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:57 < QuantumG> Phreedom__: can you give us an example about that? 00:58 -!- katsmeow-afk [~someone@75-120-217-58.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:00 < bkero> The Ubuntu boot screen is a fine example of that. 01:00 < kanzure> a giant "ubuntu" logo? 01:00 < kanzure> wtf am i doing awake 01:01 < QuantumG> bkero: it is? 01:01 < bkero> Yes 01:01 < bkero> The ubuntu loader screen is Shuttleworth's NIH 01:02 < QuantumG> care to elaborate? 01:02 < bkero> Sure 01:02 < bkero> Ubuntu created a big stupid X-based bootsplash because Shuttleworth didn't want to use Fedora's Plymouth. 01:03 < bkero> xplash is a flop comparatively 01:03 < bkero> Which is why the community got pissed and Plymouth is on track to be implemented in 10.04. 01:04 < bkero> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzQ4Mw 01:07 < QuantumG> kinda seems like Plymouth was the johnny come lately and the Ubuntu devs (not Shuttleworth) declined to adopt it. That's hardly NIH.. that's "none today thanks." 01:09 < QuantumG> what I remember being NIH was the network manager. 01:19 < bkero> Nah, Plymouth was out before xsplash existed 01:19 < bkero> THey used xsplash because they used too old of a kernel, and couldn't have kernel modesetting on some hardware. 01:23 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@63.231.245.102] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:28 < Phreedom__> QuantumG: BZR 01:29 < QuantumG> bzr is perfect example of "not invented anywhere" .. and don't say git, it doesn't do the stuff bzr was invented to do. 01:30 < Phreedom__> QuantumG: oh really? so you think that if they didn't like the cli interface, the proper way wasn't to wrap it in a couple of scripts and instead reiplement the versioning FS? 01:30 < Phreedom__> which is then wrapped around with scripts of course 01:30 < bkero> launchpad was sorta nih 01:31 < QuantumG> umm.. bzr does merging in a completely different way to git, it does branches in a completely different way, it does backup and distribution in a completely different way.. and yes, the command set is ACTUALLY SANE 01:31 < QuantumG> git, on the other hand, is awesomely fast. 01:32 < Phreedom__> bkero: and initially they didn't open up launchpad hoping for get everyone to use their service.... 01:32 < Phreedom__> bkero: so it's worse than nih :) 01:32 < Phreedom__> QuantumG: I don't think there are that thereare so many ways to od branching :) 01:33 < QuantumG> sure there is.. go listen to Linus' "you're all stupid and ugly" video 01:34 < QuantumG> and go look at the abortion of performance that is mercurial 01:38 < Phreedom__> QuantumG: basically there are 2 approaches: svn and git 01:38 < Phreedom__> not sure bzr managed to become a distinct 3rd 01:38 < Phreedom__> oh and I did used bzr a little bit 01:38 < Phreedom__> *use 01:39 < QuantumG> umm.. at a gross understanding sure.. there's centralized vs distributed... but in both centralized and distributed there's all sorts of variation. 01:40 < QuantumG> git's branch system doesn't even make "file" a first class citizen.. you can hear linus talk about this as a virtue a LOT if you go look. 01:41 < fenn> "120,000 ton hours of ice storage coils located in a 4 million gallon tank under the Jordan Quad parking lot" 01:41 < Phreedom__> QuantumG: which doesn't really restrict you(and you convenience wrapper script) from treating files as something spacial 01:41 < Phreedom__> *special 01:41 < Phreedom__> wtf with my fingers today 01:41 < Phreedom__> *is 01:41 < Phreedom__> doh 01:42 < QuantumG> so, looking around at the distributed revision control systems available at the time, it was either the unusable, unworkable crap that was mercurial and all their bastard spin-offs, or git, which is written by a mad man who doesn't think "file" is an important concept for a revision control system... and for many projects I imagine it isn't, but for *making a distro* the concept of a file is kinda important. 01:42 < QuantumG> and that's what bzr is about... file management for tracking changes in package management. 01:45 < Phreedom__> QuantumG: I didn't claim git was/is perfect. the point is that git is a versioning fs, and it's still unsurpassed in this regard. there was no sense to reimplement it 01:45 < Phreedom__> and now as a consequence you have 2 versioning FSes, 2 sets of guis, etc etc 01:45 < QuantumG> it's really not a versioning fs.. I don't know why you think it is. 01:45 < QuantumG> there's a lot more than 2 01:45 < QuantumG> and there was a lot more than 2 before git 01:46 < Phreedom__> QuantumG: of course I meant you have 2 instead of 1 01:46 < QuantumG> was Linus engaging in NIH or was he just recognizing that there was no tool out there that did the job he wanted. 01:46 < QuantumG> btw, I presume you've seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 01:46 < QuantumG> if not, watch it, because it's awesome. 01:47 < Phreedom__> Torvalds explains,[38] 01:47 < Phreedom__> In many ways you can just see git as a filesystem — it's content-addressable, and it has a notion of versioning, but I really really designed it coming at the problem from the viewpoint of a filesystem person (hey, kernels is what I do), and I actually have absolutely zero interest in creating a traditional SCM system. 01:47 < QuantumG> ya.. it's not a filesystem though 01:47 < Phreedom__> of course one part of git is SCM built on top of the versioning fs 01:48 < Phreedom__> QuantumG: it doesn't have a kernel driver, yes :) 01:48 < QuantumG> I can think about making a boat from the perspective of a person who makes cars, but it doesn't mean my boat is a car. 01:48 < Phreedom__> doesn't make it less powerful 01:48 < QuantumG> I didn't say it did.. I'm just saying it's not a versioning fs... there have been versioning filesystems, they do exist, you can get them, and git aint one.. it doesn't have one in it. 01:49 < Phreedom__> QuantumG: you can write a simple fuse wrapped(if it's not written already) and expose it 01:49 < Phreedom__> *wrapper 01:50 < QuantumG> and the content-addressable thing is very nice and very powerful, but there's certain jobs for which it's simply the wrong thing.. and one of those jobs is what bzr was written for. 01:50 < QuantumG> I can write a fuse wrapper to make tetris look like a filesystem.. so what? 01:51 < fenn> prove it! 01:51 < Phreedom__> nothing, if you ignore the obvious differences 01:51 * fenn would like to see a tetris-based filesystem 01:51 < QuantumG> me too, it'd be awesome. 01:52 * fenn mumbles something about defragging 01:52 < QuantumG> ls ; ls ; ls ; ls ; cd left ; ls ; ls ; cd drop ; ls ; ls ; ls ; cd right ; cd drop ; ls 01:52 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@63.231.245.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:57 < fenn> you can't tell from the aerial photos, but this building contains 12 milling machines, 8 lathes, 6 VMC's, a bronze/aluminum foundry, and an injection moulding machine (and other stuff) 01:57 < fenn> http://tinyurl.com/yeelrl3 02:34 < fenn> there was a big glossy poster for "neuroscience and molecular biology of sleep disorders" on feb 18 (stanford) but i can't seem to find it anywhere on the net 02:36 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@63.231.245.102] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:00 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@63.231.245.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:23 -!- faceface [~dmb@bioinformatics.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:23 < faceface> hey kardan 04:23 < faceface> wuh? 04:23 < faceface> kanzure: 04:23 < faceface> http://www.the-scientist.com/blog/display/57143/ 04:24 < faceface> I'm guessing you've seen it, but anyway 04:24 < faceface> synthetic biologist Jason Chin of the Medical Research Council Laboratory of Molecular Biology in Cambridge, UK, and his colleagues decided to devise a system that could read codons that are 4 base pairs long 04:24 < faceface> I used to work at teh LMB :D 04:29 -!- fenn_ [fenn@dhcp-84-36.me.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:33 -!- rmond [~strages@c-76-29-243-225.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:33 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: strages, fenn 05:03 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:19 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [] 08:27 -!- kristian1aul [~kristianp@190.7.148.137] has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:28 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.7.148.137] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:40 -!- any10975502 is now known as katsmeow 08:46 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:26 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL_Performer 09:28 < faceface> kanzure: four base condons old news? 09:30 < kanzure> condons? 09:30 < faceface> typoz 09:30 < faceface> codon 09:30 < faceface> codons 10:38 -!- Phreedom_ [~freedom@195.216.211.175] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:39 -!- Phreedom__ [~freedom@195.216.211.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:41 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-100-228.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:48 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-100-228.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:08 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-40-97.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:22 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-40-97.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:42 < kanzure> http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/toys-tools/hackerspace-your-garage-downloading-diy-hardware-over-web 12:42 < kanzure> oh snap 12:42 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-40-97.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:43 < Utopiah> the fame 12:44 < Utopiah> ./skdb plane.F16.engine 12:47 < Utopiah> "the instructions to build a DIY object" ? why "DIY" there? 12:55 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.7.148.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:03 < katsmeow> "instructions to take to a machine shop and have them do it" 13:08 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-40-97.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:18 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.7.148.137] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:29 < kanzure> Utopiah: to be honest, i did not write it :) 13:29 < kanzure> katsmeow: hahah 13:30 < Utopiah> nice, blame your sexy secretary ;) 13:30 < kanzure> it's clear that there's no editor 13:39 -!- katsmeow is now known as katsmeow-afk 14:48 -!- faceface [~dmb@bioinformatics.org] has quit [Disconnected by services] 14:52 < kanzure> http://www.gapminder.org/ 15:00 < bkero> One of my favorite sites :) 15:00 < bkero> I like using it to prove points in an argument 15:00 < bkero> (I have weird arguments) 15:15 < kanzure> have you ever done this? http://www.gapminder.org/upload-data/motion-chart/ 16:07 < kanzure> how much should i be paid to maintain a website that gets 10k hits/day? 16:07 < kanzure> usually i'd do this for free, but they are insisting 16:09 < QuantumG> how much of your time does it take? 16:10 < QuantumG> pick an hourly rate.. 16:10 < kanzure> it will take a few hours a week maybe 16:10 < kanzure> honestly the person currently maintaining it is not a programmer 16:10 < kanzure> so he does a lot of things the long-and-hard way 16:11 < kanzure> on one of my projects i'm being paid $150/hour (iphone app dev bullshit) 16:13 < QuantumG> yeah, the rate is dependant on how much they can pay and how much you need it.. if you usually do it for free, and don't mind, pick an arbitrary low rate. 16:18 < kanzure> ok cool 16:18 < kanzure> $1/mo? 16:20 < QuantumG> heh, if you wanna unsell yourself :) 16:25 < kanzure> ybit: how about cubespawn cnc kits for p2pu classes? 16:47 < superkuh> I want to put 2500 1mm holes (not vias) in a 1mm or thinner pcb. Is there a pcb manufacturing service that might do this for small orders? Any other ideas? Right now I am doing it by hand and making very slow, irregular progress. 16:47 < superkuh> ~2mm apart. 16:50 < superkuh> Like: http://superkuh.ath.cx/users/superkuh/Library/000-Physics/Muon%20Detection/0-Thick%20Gas%20Electron%20Multipliers/thgem_drillpattern.png 16:50 < kanzure> you should also ask ##electronics 16:50 < superkuh> I have, a couple times. 16:50 < superkuh> I probably will again. 16:51 < kanzure> are you ok if i relay your question over email? 16:51 < superkuh> Yes. 16:53 < kanzure> todo: read http://mises.org/story/3783 (some economics crap) 16:53 < kanzure> superkuh: done. i'll be sure to send responses your way. sorry i don't know off the top of my head 16:53 < superkuh> Okay. Thanks. 16:54 < kanzure> todo: read http://mises.org/story/3631 (more economics crap) 17:05 < kanzure> superkuh: how about e-teknet? there's a $275 setup fee. 17:07 < kanzure> i may or may not be right about that- they might have a 30 order minimum 17:08 -!- superkuh [~hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:11 < kanzure> "I should start writing emails asking why you haven't been working on it." 17:13 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:17 -!- randallagordon_ [~randallag@c-76-115-126-45.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:20 -!- fenn_ is now known as fenn 17:22 -!- QuantumG [~qg@rtfm.insomnia.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:25 < fenn> there's a typo? in that lego file.. it points to screw.yaml 17:25 < kanzure> lla;kfal;fal;a 17:25 < kanzure> damn editors! 17:25 * kanzure points the finger at r. u. sirius 17:25 < fenn> actually it shouldnt be pointing to fennetic.net either 17:25 < kanzure> the answer to r. u. sirius is "apparently not" 17:29 -!- randallagordon [~randallag@c-76-115-126-45.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:29 < fenn> isnt that obvious? 17:30 < fenn> if you've ever read the cyberpunk fakebook 17:31 < fenn> http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext97/fakeb10.txt 17:32 < kanzure> i have not 17:38 -!- QuantumG [~qg@rtfm.insomnia.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:45 < fenn> i wonder if it goes on or they just wrote the first chapter 17:48 < kanzure> should i ask him? 17:55 < kanzure> superkuh: how about http://4pcb.com/ ? 17:55 < kanzure> superkuh: another person suggests trying a water jet or machining with some small bits 17:55 < superkuh> I have requested quotes from futurelec and ourpcb so far. I will check out 4pcb. 17:56 < superkuh> I keep getting contradicting information about hole cost on different IRC networks. 18:10 < kanzure> superkuh: someone suggests mounting a dremel on a makerbot or somesuch. 18:25 < fenn> does it have to be plastic? you could do photo etching with brass sheet and laser toner transfer method 18:37 < kanzure> PICdude says: "I'm guessing the issue is that you already have the PCB, which is why 18:37 < kanzure> you can't just order one? I'd also guess the board to be just around 18:37 < kanzure> 4" x 4" (based on hole spacing you specified), so any CNC mill should 18:37 < kanzure> be able to handle this very easily. If it were me, I'd do it on my 18:37 < kanzure> CNC mill, but you may be able to find a local machine shop with a CNC 18:37 < kanzure> mill to do it for you." 18:38 < superkuh> fenn: It needs to act as a capacitor with holes in it. 18:41 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 18:41 -!- cis-action [~cis-actio@209-6-54-14.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:41 < kanzure> hello cis-action 18:41 < kanzure> long time no see 18:41 -!- cis-action [~cis-actio@209-6-54-14.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has left #hplusroadmap [] 18:41 < kanzure> kfajajka 18:42 -!- hundred-ideas [~100ideas@209-6-54-14.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:42 < kanzure> QuantumG: are you a relative of "james coddington"? 18:42 < hundred-ideas> hi kanzure 18:42 < kanzure> welcome back 18:43 < QuantumG> no 18:43 < kanzure> hundred-ideas: this was published earlier today: http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/toys-tools/hackerspace-your-garage-downloading-diy-hardware-over-web 18:43 < QuantumG> and btw, names don't work like that :) 18:44 < kanzure> QuantumG: it might have been a minor morphophonetic mutation :) 18:44 < QuantumG> yep, some sort of hamming distance measure of relatives 18:44 < kanzure> heh 18:45 < hundred-ideas> ...reading... 18:46 < kanzure> there's a few comments piling up at the bottom too 18:50 < hundred-ideas> rad 18:50 < hundred-ideas> very cool, kanzure 18:53 < hundred-ideas> but at what point is it more efficient to print pipet tips rather than buy them? If you have a massive poly-lactic acid algal biosynthesis tank connected to your reprap? 19:00 < kanzure> you'd probably do the jobs in bulk, i.e. make a batch of pipette tips for a few months supply 19:01 < kanzure> now whether or not you need pipette tips could become an issue of debate in the near future ;-) i.e. what if you had a pipeteless lab workflow? 19:02 < hundred-ideas> that sounds great 19:03 < QuantumG> ohh, help me coin a new buzzword "dry workflow" 19:03 < kanzure> dryflow 19:03 < hundred-ideas> robotics w/ self-cleaning tips? or microfluidics? 19:03 < kanzure> microfluidics probably, it's what i'm wokring on now 19:03 < kanzure> in a week or so i hope to have a youtube video up (with a kickass song to go with it!) demoing everything from design to testing 19:03 < hundred-ideas> have you met Romie from LA 19:03 < kanzure> no 19:04 < kanzure> QuantumG: "dry flow" sounds good to me.. 19:05 < hundred-ideas> He is working on a modular microfluidics platform such that you could combine an electroporator, cell-sorter, and microscope into one compound unit 19:05 < katsmeow-afk> http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2007/03/bootstrapping_t.php "A lather has those self-reproductive qualities." huh? 19:05 < kanzure> hundred-ideas: yep, i've seen some articles on stuff like that 19:06 < kanzure> is it all open source? or is he just bullshitting you 19:07 < kanzure> sorry, that's a loaded question 19:07 < katsmeow-afk> "In this way, his tiny machine shop was an upcreation device, capable of generating higher a machine of precision than itself." ?? 19:07 < kanzure> um. i mean to ask: what is the licensing 19:07 < kanzure> katsmeow-afk: kevin probably meant to write "lathe" instead of "lather" 19:07 < hundred-ideas> well, I guess I would first make the distinction between vaporware and real things, and then closed and open versions of real things 19:07 < kanzure> sure 19:07 < kanzure> although if it's closed, is it real? ;) 19:08 < hundred-ideas> I think he would like to sell kits, but as has been demonstrated a variety of times, open source kits sell 19:08 < kanzure> might as well not be real if it's closed 19:08 < kanzure> yeah 19:08 < hundred-ideas> ... are intel chips open source? 19:08 < kanzure> that's what the gnusha business model is shaping up to be 19:08 < kanzure> hundred-ideas: no. but there are some open source RISC designs out there 19:08 < hundred-ideas> but it's real 19:08 < kanzure> have you heard of, i dunno, arduino? 19:08 < kanzure> i would rather count on an arduino over an intel chip 19:09 < hundred-ideas> Do you consider your brain open-source? 19:09 < kanzure> although, arduino is mostly the software around teh chip 19:09 < kanzure> *the 19:09 < kanzure> hundred-ideas: fuck i just disappeared 19:09 < Utopiah> http://wiki.seedea.org/Utopiahanalysis/HiTechCreativity-draft#CPUs 19:09 < kanzure> where have i gone 19:09 < kanzure> i vanished in a poof of logic :( 19:09 < hundred-ideas> guess you aren't open-source after all 19:09 < kanzure> i'd be willing to give you my genome if i had it 19:10 < kanzure> er, i mean, the data to it 19:10 < kanzure> i'm sure you've already stolen my hair or something 19:10 < kanzure> anyway, i was talking about contigency planning 19:10 < hundred-ideas> haha right. so we should make a distinction between having the knowledge of how something works vs. being allowed to use the knowledge in various legal frameworks 19:11 < kanzure> yeah it's just worth pointing out that if he's not sharing that tech in a liberally licensed manner, it's going to be hard for me to steal it or make use of it 19:11 < hundred-ideas> well, wait to see what he says 19:11 < katsmeow-afk> i looked at http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2007/03/bootstrapping_t.php in Ie and Ff, there's no captcha in either 19:11 < kanzure> sure 19:11 < hundred-ideas> I just emailed you both 19:12 < kanzure> thanks i just got it 19:12 < kanzure> Romie Littrell? 19:13 < hundred-ideas> affirmative 19:50 < nsh> anyone have a botnet lying around? 19:50 < nsh> or a rapidshare account 19:57 < kanzure> heh 19:57 < kanzure> i might have a rapidshare account 19:57 < kanzure> let me pm you the login deets 19:59 < kanzure> nsh: did that work? 19:59 < nsh> nups 19:59 < kanzure> fucks 19:59 < nsh> nothing too vital though 19:59 < nsh> just leonard susskind's black hole wars 20:00 < nsh> i'll grab it in parts 20:00 < kanzure> oh, fenn should have that on his server 20:00 < nsh> ah 20:00 < kanzure> fenn: ping? 20:05 < kanzure> updated: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/2009-10-01_to_2010-03-01.png 20:05 < kanzure> oooh 20:06 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:06 < nsh> interesting graph 20:07 < kanzure> the purple line has an interesting function going on 20:11 < kanzure> http://www.filestube.com/d98c0caa2cae06f003ea,g/InboundMarketingGoogle.html 20:11 < kanzure> http://www.amazon.com/Inbound-Marketing-Found-Google-Social/dp/0470499311 20:33 < kanzure> http://www.protocolpedia.com/ fuck it's just a landing page :( 20:39 < kanzure> ex-amgen employees doing local drug manufacturing http://www.curepharmaceutical.com/ andrew hessel is trying to pull them into my never-ending vortex 20:42 < fenn> you stalked 58 people today? 20:43 < kanzure> no i talked with 58 people today, stalked only 9 20:43 < fenn> i'm not sure which is worse 20:43 < kanzure> i'm terrible. 20:43 < fenn> terrorific 20:44 < kanzure> hm, andrew hessel is going to talk with richard wallace next week 20:44 < fenn> that doesn't really make any sense 20:45 < kanzure> :( 20:45 < fenn> the chatbot guy? 20:46 < kanzure> yes 20:46 < kanzure> alice 20:54 < kanzure> personalized annual reports from the quantified self peeps http://vimeo.com/9117064 21:02 < kanzure> fenn: haha. you know, it's not a "stalk log" per-se..the red line is people that *voluntarily* communicated 21:14 < ybit> actually kanzure threatens to ddos my machines if i don't communicate each day ;) 21:14 < kanzure> damn right, i have a whole botnet just waiting 21:17 < bkero> botnet? Can I has? 21:17 < kanzure> you /are/ the botnet 21:27 < ybit> kanzure: cool, you got to write an article for h+ magazine 21:28 < ybit> who is surfdaddy orca? 21:28 < ybit> your new pseudonym? 21:28 < ybit> :) 21:28 < ybit> fenn? 21:29 * ybit goes back to suckage for a few hours 21:31 < kanzure> greg campbell 21:46 < bkero> Hey guys, could you proofread an article for me, maybe give me suggestions? 21:46 < bkero> http://blueheaven.ws/2010/02/17/installing-windows-vista7-the-lazy-way/ 21:48 * fenn looks 21:49 < kanzure> http://www.vitaeinstitute.org/ 21:49 < kanzure> they helped livly.org raise money? 21:49 < fenn> not enough money, apparently 21:53 < fenn> bkero: step 11, you should probably explain what the user is trying to do (make the partition bootable) 21:54 < bkero> fenn: Yea, that part is a bit tricky, ok. 21:55 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-237-18.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:56 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:30f6:6119:52c6:ef50] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:57 < kanzure> hello Redeemer, JayDugger 21:57 < JayDugger> hello Kanzure. 21:57 < kanzure> article was published today: http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/toys-tools/hackerspace-your-garage-downloading-diy-hardware-over-web 21:58 < JayDugger> I suspect OSHBM won't have any feeds unless we publish it as a web page. I think this also prevents it from having a feed for its revision history. 21:58 < JayDugger> (Sorry for the crap sentence. Not yet awake.) 21:59 < JayDugger> Congratulations on the article. I'll read it at work. 21:59 < Redeemer> Evenin 21:59 < kanzure> i see 21:59 < bkero> kanzure: Do you know anybody with a 3d printer? My local LUG is constructing a Reprap and need RP parts. 22:00 < kanzure> yes 22:00 < JayDugger> There's a fellow in Canada, Ottawa I think, who has sold RepRap parts on eBay. 22:00 < Redeemer> Found out my local hackerspace is willing to get their hands on a fancy 3D printer if at least 6 members request one, friggin sweet 22:00 < kanzure> tim schmidt comes around here often, has oogles and oogles of parts 22:00 < bkero> What's his handle? 22:00 < JayDugger> Must be nice. 22:00 < kanzure> Redeemer: fancy? why does it have to be fancy 22:00 < kanzure> bkero: "Tim Schmidt" tell him i sent you 22:00 < Redeemer> Because they want high resolution 22:00 < bkero> kanzure: Should I email him then? Thanks. :) 22:01 < kanzure> bkero: yeah, or chat if he's around 22:01 < Redeemer> High resolution and good space tolerance 22:01 < kanzure> you guys suck, comment more on the article's page :P 22:01 < JayDugger> Anyhow, you might want to get that contributors list turned into a web form know that the H+ article is out. 22:01 < bkero> kanzure: Sweet, thanks. I'll be sure to print some kind of homage to you/tim as the repraps first production. 22:01 < kanzure> a webform? 22:01 < kanzure> bkero: if he doesn't come through for you, i have lots of others 22:01 < JayDugger> If the article will hit the print copy, then I strongly suggest having that form ready. 22:01 < kanzure> i see 22:02 < Redeemer> I'll read the article once I get done relocating in a bit 22:02 < kanzure> i don't actually care about the contributor list 22:02 < kanzure> google keeps track of that 22:02 < JayDugger> Sorry, the /potential/ contributors list. 22:02 < kanzure> oh 22:02 < kanzure> hm, that might be nifty 22:02 < JayDugger> Who did I invite, when did I invite them, what did they say, etc... 22:03 < JayDugger> Anyhow, I need to get back to IRL housekeeping and $DAYJOB... 22:04 < JayDugger> As for the 3d printers, you might see if any local high school shop classes are interested in participating. Just a though. 22:04 < JayDugger> thought, rather. 22:04 < JayDugger> Good night, all. 22:04 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:30f6:6119:52c6:ef50] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:15 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-237-18.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:20 < bkero> kanzure: nice article 22:25 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:58 -!- flamoot [~root@bas2-barrie18-1242454856.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:59 -!- flamoot [~root@70.50.178.163] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:13 < kanzure> bodybugg? 23:34 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]