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00:20 < ybit> kanzure: because nobody except you has thought about "can has afm" :)
00:20 < ybit> fabhow.com *cough*
00:27 < ybit> this idea of a moon-brain: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrioshka_brain
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02:46 < Utopiah> http://sampledb.genome10k.org/
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02:48 < Utopiah> ybit: I think Matrioshka brain are not supposed to be limited to be just to a moon but (at least that's how I understood it from Accelerando) can be an entire star system
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03:46 < katsmeow-afk> http://www.digimedia.com/ owns make.com
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03:49 < nmz787> anyone awake?
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03:58 < fenn> there was a plane crash in palo alto yesterday too (accidental)
03:58 < nmz787> the heads of some important company
03:59 < fenn> tesla motors, not the heads of the company afaik
03:59 < nmz787> right, investors?
03:59 < fenn> 3 electrical engineers
04:00 < fenn> hit a power line.. how ironic
04:00 < nmz787> :P
04:00 < QuantumG> Musk said the victims were plane owner and pilot Doug Bourn, 56, a senior electrical engineer from Santa Clara; Brian Finn, a 42-year-old senior interactive electronics manager from East Palo Alto; and electrical engineer Andrew Ingram, who lived in Palo Alto and turned 31 on Monday.
04:01 < nmz787> wow
04:04 < QuantumG> light twin aircraft.. at least twice as dangerous as driving they say :)
04:05 < fenn> about as dangerous as tearing ass out of the tesla dealership onto el camino real, then
04:06 < nmz787> how is it 2x more dangerous?
04:08 < QuantumG> well, as I heard it, the dangerous part about flying a light twin aircraft is that most amateur pilots don't have a plan for what to do when a situation arises that really requires expertise..
04:08 < fenn> 2 engines to fail! duh!
04:09 < QuantumG> heh :)
04:28 < ybit> paul has really poured a lot into this wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobless_recovery
04:28 < ybit> he mentions open hardware in the gift economy section
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09:19 < JayDugger> And now for a productive day!
10:39 < nsh> fenn, do you have susskind's black hole wars, by any chance?
10:47 < kanzure> congratulations, you get to talk with your funder!
10:48 < kanzure> caveat: he speaks a foreign language and you can only say "yes, yes, ahuh, ahuh" because you don't understand a single fucken word
10:50 < kanzure> i don't know what to do
10:51 < JayDugger> Seriously?
10:52 < JayDugger> I'll happily play straight man, but that set-up demands a punchline.
10:54 < JayDugger> Hire a translator with the funding?
11:15 < kanzure> for this much money, i should be the translator
11:16 < JayDugger> Buy a two-way dictionary with the funding?
11:52 < kanzure> you and your solution-oriented thinking! 
11:53 < JayDugger> Okay, if you want to blow the funding, get me this model:
11:53 < JayDugger> http://fantastic-plastic.com/ProjectOrionBattleshipCatalogPage.htm
11:53 < kanzure> (there's an invisible snarkmark in my last comment)
11:54 < kanzure> oh that's just a drop in the ocean jay
11:54 < kanzure> you want it?
11:54 < kanzure> :P
11:54 < kanzure> of course, there's no way in hell i'm going to buy it
11:54 < kanzure> but yeah
11:54 < kanzure> i need to dash- off to a meeting with another investor
11:55 < JayDugger> Not as much as I want `sudo skdb make me a working project orion battleship`. :P
11:55 < kanzure> "excuse me sirs, why are you throwing money at me"
11:55 < JayDugger> Purely for peaceful exploration, you understand.
11:55 < kanzure> of course
11:59 < kanzure> stalk: infoswell media
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13:47 < kanzure> stalk: talkshoe
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14:15 < kanzure> (02:13:23 PM) Sam Putman: If you spent 10% as much time coding as you did on self-aggrandizing bullshit, SKDB might not be total joke that it remains.
14:15 < kanzure> (02:13:24 PM) Sam Putman: Alas.
14:15 < kanzure> (02:13:40 PM) Sam Putman: I have been absurdly patient with you, bryan. we all have.
14:15 < kanzure> (02:13:41 PM) Sam Putman: that patience is wearing thin.
14:15 < kanzure> (02:14:00 PM) Sam Putman: when was your last code commit?
14:15 < kanzure> (02:14:05 PM) Sam Putman: what did it consist of?
14:15 < kanzure> (02:14:16 PM) Sam Putman: what meaningful function has your project gained
14:15 < kanzure> strong words from someone who doesn't commit code himself
14:15 < kanzure> (but for the record, it was yesterday at 21:24:58)
14:15 < kanzure> (02:14:28 PM) Sam Putman: you talk and talk and talk more bullshit, stir up problems, and for what?
14:16 < Utopiah> send him the RSS feed of the code repostiry,it should provide updates in real time with comments and times
14:17 < kanzure> so.. http://github.com/feeds/kanzure/commits/skdb/master ?
14:18 < kanzure> i don't push there often, but that's an RSS feed i guess
14:19 < Utopiah> yes the feed works
14:19 < kanzure> am i really that evil
14:21 < kanzure> (02:22:16 PM) Sam Putman: bryan, your lack of self-insight will cost you dearly. but I've told you that before, and I have finite reserves of patience.
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14:46 < ader10> kanzure: thanks for your web site.
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14:46 < kanzure> O.o
14:49 < Utopiah> a joke from Sam Putman :P
14:50 < kanzure> heh
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15:15 < kanzure> i am not yet convinced that jata knows any programming
15:26 < Redeemer> What makes you think that?
15:28 < kanzure> all talk, no code
15:29 < kanzure> i guess you need to know the lingo in order to be able to talk but still
15:29 < kanzure> we'll see
15:31 < Redeemer> I've gotta resume the reading I was doing for learning Python, found what looks like a decent beginners guide and such.
15:41 < kanzure> we are your beginner's guide :)
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15:42 < JayDugger> So my nuclear pulse spaceship can be expressed in how many lines of code, exactly?
15:43 < kanzure> right now i'm having some trouble representing microfluidics
15:43 < kanzure> for some reason i started working on microfluidics thinking it would be an ok skdb package
15:43 < kanzure> but really individual parts or designs for a chip are not really something that you apt-get
15:43 < JayDugger> skdb needs explosives. :)
15:43 < kanzure> you just apt-get a finalized design like a pcr thermocycler
15:43 < kanzure> so anyway, it's kind of "out of the way" but i know i'll appreciate the results
15:43 < JayDugger> I'll shut up now. :)
15:43 < kanzure> no no, keep going
15:44 < kanzure> i guess you could do a CAD model of parts of a pulsejet or something.. or if you want to be super ambitious, nuclear reactors
15:44 < kanzure> iirc, there are some designs for reactors floating around the web
15:45 < JayDugger> No. I should really write up my rant about Orion, and its pure pyrotechnic appeal, and the value of guaranteed last strike as minimum credible nuclear deterrent, and so forth...
15:45 < JayDugger> Seriously, I think you can probably get a lot of material about the TRIGA II research reactors without too much trouble.
15:46 < kanzure> TRIGA?
15:47 < JayDugger> TRIGA is a class of small nuclear reactor designed and manufactured by General Atomics. The design team for TRIGA was led by the physicist Freeman Dyson. TRIGA is the acronym of Training, Research, Isotopes, General Atomics.
15:47 < JayDugger> http://www.ga-esi.com/triga/
15:48 < JayDugger> UT Austin has one.
15:49 < JayDugger> http://www.nukepills.com/research-reactor-list.htm
15:49 < JayDugger> Reed College has a TRIGA I, and they'll license undergraduate operators. I don't think other schools do that, but I don't know.
15:50 < kanzure> yes i am aware of who dyson is ;-)
15:50 < kanzure> "physicist Freeman Dyson" pfft
15:50 < JayDugger> Yeah, I c/p'd from Wikipedia, written for a general audience, you know.
15:52 < JayDugger> Some technical description here. http://www.rcp.ijs.si/ric/reactor-a.htm
15:53 < kanzure> i emailed the dood with a follow-up to make sure i understood everything from the phone call
15:53 < kanzure> it turns out that i got everything spot-on :)
15:53 < kanzure> it sounded like he was saying more though
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16:32 < kanzure> "Keep current on news about Dr. Derya Unutmaz, the researcher who assisted Dr. Paul Savage in the creation and testing of CSA54 - the cure for the HIV/AIDS virus."
16:35 < kanzure> O.o
16:51 < kanzure> "cationic steroid antimicrobial"
16:51 < kanzure> http://www.google.com/patents?hl=en&lr=&vid=USPATAPP11669854&id=ISqBAAAAEBAJ&oi=fnd&dq=%22Paul+Savage%22+%22Derya+Unutmaz%22&printsec=abstract#v=onepage&q=&f=false
16:56 < kanzure> http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=ISqBAAAAEBAJ&dq=%22Paul+Savage%22+%22Derya+Unutmaz%22
16:56 < kanzure> "28. The method of any of claims 1 to 17, wherein the subject has been exposed to or diagnosed as HIV+.
16:56 < kanzure> i guess if you invented a cure to AIDS you wouldn't quite be shouting it from a cliff either
16:56 < kanzure> less you had the manufacturing down
16:57 < QuantumG> depends why you developed it
16:57 < kanzure> ?
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17:31 < kanzure> yarr! thar be golds in those mines
17:35 < kanzure> who knows who? http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?OpenKollab
17:35 < kanzure> or, at least, who knows openkollab
17:35 < kanzure> "GNU. GPL. Alas, when people base their thinking on the term "open", they tend to downgrade freedom as a goal. That's why I don't work on projects whose goal is "open". They may be good projects, as far as it goes, but they systematically avoid doing what we need most." - rms on openkollab
17:51 < kanzure> ugh a business card on my floor reads "ricardo guerrero, stwittergy" *pain*
18:09 < kanzure> so, i think it's far past time for me to do a page on solid modeling, a FAQ of sorts
18:09 < kanzure> any ideas for starting this off
18:36 < fenn> the internet was full of pages like that ten years ago
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19:12 < kanzure> fenn: and now, not so much
19:13 < kanzure> binary space partitioning trees FAQ
19:13 < kanzure> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/graphics/bsptree-faq/
19:13 < kanzure> heh
19:13 < QuantumG> ever read the Sauerbraten guy's docs on octotrees?
19:14 < kanzure> ACIS FAQ crap http://www.faqs.org/faqs/CAD/AutoCAD-faq/
19:14 < kanzure> no
19:16 < QuantumG> helps if I spell it right
19:16 < QuantumG> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octree
19:29 < QuantumG> http://sauerbraten.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/sauerbraten/docs/dev/readme_developer.txt?view=markup
19:30 < QuantumG> scroll down to line 39
19:30 < QuantumG> World Structure
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20:15 < kanzure> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/honor_societies.png
20:18 < nsh> linking to the image loses the on-hover texrt
20:18 < nsh> (which wasn't that interesting in this case anyway)
20:20 < nsh> http://xkcd.com/701/ is pretty sad 
20:23 < kanzure> makerbot map: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=117099291054388532447.0004409098b1c5b712553
20:23 < kanzure> http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=103687026802878537105.00047ff60fb78c237fbc2
20:26 < fenn> nsh, sad but true :P
20:36 < nsh> quite
20:36 < nsh> kanzure mentioned that you might have some susskind books on your server, btw
20:36 < nsh> which i am wont to read
20:41 < fenn> nsh i don't have anything by susskind, sorry
20:41 < nsh> no worries
20:43  * fenn procrastinates writing some php
20:43 < fenn> i guess it would be easier if i knew wtf i was supposed to be doing
20:44 < nsh> what are you suppo- oh
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20:52  * fenn nominates nsh for tautology club president
20:54 < nsh> yay
20:56  * nsh toys with the idea of creating a tautology power turing device
20:56 < nsh> *-powered
20:57 < superkuh> nsh: Which Susskind books are you looking for?
20:57 < nsh> black hole wars, originally
20:57 < nsh> but would probably read any
20:58 < nsh> BHW was a massive 6-part rapidshare download, for some reasona
20:58 < superkuh> I have a massive 6 part ifile.it share. No download limits, pretty fast.
20:58 < fenn> a conspiracy no doubt
20:58 < superkuh> mp3.
20:58 < nsh> ah
20:58 < nsh> cool, link?
20:58 < superkuh> It's on gigapedia.org. One second while I resolve all the redirects.
20:58 < nsh> ty
20:59 < superkuh> http://ifile.it/5es0cqu/blackholewar.part1.rar
20:59 < superkuh> http://ifile.it/gk4wxf3/blackholewar.part2.rar
20:59 < superkuh> http://ifile.it/znpygrx/blackholewar.part3.rar
20:59 < superkuh> http://ifile.it/f9evrjy/blackholewar.part4.rar
20:59 < superkuh> http://ifile.it/07y53rs/blackholewar.part5.rar
21:00 < superkuh> http://superkuh.ath.cx/users/superkuh/Library/000-Physics/Susskind%20L.%2c%20Lindesay%20J.%20Introduction%20to%20blackholes%2cinformation%2c%20and%20string%20theory%20revolution%20(WS%2c%202005)(ISBN%209812560831)(200s)_PQstr_.pdf
21:01 < nsh> nice one :-)
21:04 < nsh> i had an idea yesterday actually
21:04 < nsh> a simple network to share IP-space for rapidshare/etc.
21:05 < nsh> if you had a large enough pool of casual downloaders, you could solve the limits problem
21:05 < nsh> might code it as an exercise
21:11 < fenn> oh you mean bittorrent?
21:12 < nsh> touché
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22:18 < kanzure> hello thesnark 
22:19 < kanzure> fenn: why are you touching php
22:20 < kanzure> does this load for anyone? http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/toys-tools/hackerspace-your-garage-downloading-diy-hardware-over-web
22:20 < kanzure> so much for being able to take a slashdotting
22:23 < nsh> not fast, at any rate
22:25 < nsh> still not 
22:25 < kanzure> ah there it goes
22:25 < kanzure> http://transitlab.org/ (brian degger)
22:26 < nsh> finally loaded
22:27 < kanzure> seems to be queue-based
22:29 < kanzure> traffic to heybryan.org doubled yesterday for some reason
22:30 < nsh> didn't realise you did a presentation
22:30 < kanzure> it seems to be doubling every 8 days
22:30 < nsh> how did it go?
22:30 < kanzure> very well :)
22:30 < nsh> good 
22:30 < nsh> will your server/bandwidth cope?
22:30 < kanzure> no
22:30 < kanzure> it's on a residential internet connection
22:30 < nsh> not so good
22:31 < nsh> i have lots of server space, but none of it's legally mine, unfortunately
22:31 < nsh> (which is to say, it's all very illegally mine)
22:31 < kanzure> i have lots of servers in weird countries.. i just need to get around to uploading my hundreds of gigabytes
22:32 < nsh> mmm
22:32 < thesnark> hey kanzure
22:33 < kanzure> yo
22:38 < nsh> kanzure, indulge me with some speculation
22:39 < nsh> at an optimistic estimation, how long before open-source consumer-grade hardware
22:39 < nsh> i suppose the question depends highly on what type of hardware
22:40 < nsh> i was going to suggest 'phone', but that's almost impossible
22:40 < nsh> well, at the moment
22:40 < nsh> though
22:40 < nsh> hmm
22:40 < kanzure> openmoko, tuxphone
22:40 < kanzure> DONE
22:40 < kanzure> next?
22:41 < nsh> hmm
22:42 < nsh> but the prospects of having any control yourself in the production process are still pretty slim to you or i
22:42 < kanzure> true that
22:42 < nsh> so i guess i meant morre "hackable" than open-source
22:42 < kanzure> nsh: please also indulge yourself with this: WP5lmDYDzZHQ4MmZxMl8xM2ZrMmZjOWZ0
22:42 < kanzure> er
22:42 < kanzure> http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ad_WP5lmDYDzZHQ4MmZxMl8xM2ZrMmZjOWZ0&hl=en
22:43 < nsh> it's more about the enfranchisement of the end-user in the production process, which is perhaps a question of economy of scale and self-organisation around popular desires
22:43 < nsh> intersting
22:45 < kanzure> near the bottom there's a concept that you might be interested in, one sec
22:45 < kanzure> http://rjpinnell.info/Page12.html
22:45 < kanzure> "true cost"
22:46 < kanzure> or, another version: http://www.worldchanging.com/EarthlyIdeasLCA.jpg
22:47 < kanzure> personally, this sort of LCA doesn't make me randy, but some people get super excited
22:48 < nsh> mmm
22:49 < kanzure> wtf? http://rjpinnell.info/Page6.html
22:49 < nsh> i can't really read about an app downloaded from the internet to use on your iphone for checking the total environmental impact of your jar of peanut butter with a straight face
22:50 < kanzure> well at least his heart is in the right place: http://rjpinnell.info/Page5.html
22:50 < kanzure> heh
22:50  * nsh smiles
22:51 < kanzure> huh he did a pilot for MTV
22:51 < kanzure> i've been working with rené on a few different projects for a few months now
22:51 < kanzure> (in person)
22:51 < nsh> there's something weird about a yellow shirt with lapels
22:51 < nsh> that's cool
22:52 < kanzure> we're stalking people by wifi, gsm, wimax, bluetooth, infrared, and giant fucking inductor coils hidden under buildings
22:52 < nsh> to what end?
22:52 < nsh> giant-inductor-coils++
22:52 < kanzure> giant: is there any other way to have it?
22:53 < kanzure> it's under the guise of sustainability nonsense
22:53 < kanzure> correlating where people are versus energy usage in various rooms
22:53 < kanzure> also, "google maps but indoors" and other nonsense
22:53 < nsh> interesting
22:55 < nsh> this strikes me as important (from the google doc): 
22:55 < nsh> Meredith: and pay for power and consumables that co-ops are not yet able to generate themselves (i.e., rolls of 3mm ABS for the MakerBot). Self-sufficiency is the ultimate goal, of course, but pay attention to the economic incentives. If it costs $10 to print a pair of needlenose pliers and ship them to a co-op that needs them, and $5 for someone to drive to the hardware store and buy a pair, there is a short-term incentive for t
22:55 < nsh> he Craftsman pliers. Shifting those incentives is the ultimate goal, but we literally can't afford to focus on ideology ahead of pragmatism. 
22:56 < kanzure> sure
22:56 < nsh> there's a certain 'potential well' in favour of entrenched closed-manufacturing
22:56 < nsh> and i guess more effort should be focused on climbing out of it
22:56 < kanzure> right
22:56 < kanzure> but buying a pair of $5 pliers is certainly something that might be involved in climbing out of it
22:56 < kanzure> buying a million of those pliers? probably not ;)
22:56 < nsh> aye
22:57 < kanzure> the goal of the co-op is to kind of.. anticipate the paths for climbing out of that potential well that you describe
22:57 < kanzure> so that we can build kits in a timely manner, i.e. if a cnc machine is needed to really get shit done, we'll do a kit for that
22:58 < kanzure> since, in general, everyone tends to share the same "hm everyone else is making things but me" problem
22:58 < nsh> true
22:58 < nsh> it's also a hobbiest-density matter
22:59 < nsh> large cities are best place for developing the self-sufficiency cancer
22:59 < nsh> before it can metastatise into the boodocks
22:59 < nsh> *boondocks
22:59 < kanzure> it's non-ideal to describe this as hobby-only
22:59 < nsh> right
22:59 < nsh> the word was primed by what i was just reading
22:59 < kanzure> yeah :/
23:00 < kanzure> i need to fix this
23:00 < nsh> is there even a noun for an open-source person?
23:00 < kanzure> a stallman?
23:00 < kanzure> wait, no that's not him
23:00 < nsh> heh, don't think it'll go down well
23:00 < QuantumG> zealot?
23:00 < kanzure> freedom fighter
23:01 < nsh> the zealots used to be a semi-respectable bunch
23:01 < QuantumG> "scab"
23:01 < nsh> back in jeebus times
23:01 < nsh> i could see 'scab' catching on in an ironic hipster fashion
23:01 < kanzure> stallman now just blatantly avoids anything that claims to be "open"
23:01 < nsh> at least he's sticking to his guns
23:02 < nsh> there has to be at least one non-compromiser in any radical movement
23:02 < nsh> they generally get bumped off though, but i think his ninja skills will save him
23:02 < kanzure> he gets a lot of hate.
23:03 < nsh> but it's impotent nerd-hate
23:03 < kanzure> mostly because people don't understand he doesn't want anything to do with "open source"
23:03 < kanzure> or something like that
23:03  * nsh nods
23:03 < kanzure> the slashdot comments are the most funny
23:03 < kanzure> "stallman just needs to die" etc.
23:03 < nsh> it would be nice to catch a youth-craze
23:04 < nsh> but i think making-your-own-stuff is just that much harder than working a tamagotchi that it might not ever happen
23:04 < nsh> (what the hell do school-kids craze over nowadays, anyway?)
23:04 < kanzure> sexting?
23:04 < nsh> i need to hang out with more children
23:04 < nsh> heh
23:04 < QuantumG> "scab" works on two levels.  1. they're doing work for free.. so it's kind like non-union workers; and 2. there was an "open sores" insult that used to be thrown around.
23:04 < kanzure> that would make you a pedo, sir
23:04 < nsh> that was an unfortunate juxtaposition
23:05 < kanzure> :)
23:05  * nsh considers sleep
23:05 < kanzure> result: denied
23:05 < nsh> AS THE REFUGE OF THE PUNY
23:06 < nsh> mmm
23:06 < nsh> have to leave in two hours to get a coach to edinburgh
23:06 < nsh> and march around in the snow for hours shouting
23:06 < kanzure> are you the local crazy for the day?
23:06 < nsh> i should get some audiobooks on some kind of audio-playing device
23:06 < nsh> yeah, we have a shift system
23:07 < kanzure> today you will be the one-legged hippie from vietnam
23:07 < nsh> the veterans just aren't grifting these days
23:08 < QuantumG> http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/
23:09 < kanzure> O.o
23:09 < kanzure> "     Even at its most efficient power setting, the big 14 consumes 1,660 gallons of heavy fuel oil per hour."
23:09 < nsh>      Even at its most efficient power setting, the big 14 consumes 1,660 gallons of heavy fuel oil per hour.
23:09 < nsh> heh
23:09 < kanzure> ahem
23:09 < kanzure> stop reading my brains
23:09 < nsh> no
23:10 < nsh> man
23:10 < nsh> engines are cool
23:11  * nsh disappears in the cloud of green smoke
23:12 < QuantumG> I wonder how much somhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%A4rtsil%C3%A4-Sulzer_RTA96-C
23:12 < QuantumG> ya know what would be nice?   a price tag
23:14 < kanzure> if you have to ask, you can't afford it
23:14 < QuantumG> even a ballpark would be nice
23:14 < QuantumG> are we talking $M's or $B's?
23:14 < kanzure> price tag: a ball park
23:14 < kanzure> (no, rly)
23:14 < kanzure> how much do those go for anyway?
23:14 < QuantumG> that's what I'm asking :)
23:15 < kanzure> no, i mean, ballparks
23:15 < QuantumG> $M's I think
23:15 < kanzure> that's all?
23:15 < QuantumG> well, maybe $B's for mega-stadiums
23:15 < kanzure> my would-be high school was $90M and wasn't that large
23:15 < kanzure> i see
23:15 < QuantumG> jeez, what they do, get NASA to build it?
23:17 < QuantumG> well, the company that makes them had net sales of 4.6 billion euros in 2008.
23:24 < kanzure> how many of them could they be making :P
23:24 < kanzure> i imagine you could get some good numbers on how many oil tankers there are in the world
23:25 < kanzure> i.e. average oil tanker has this much storage; this much oil is transported per day; and that company has a certain percent of the market share; and new ships need to be built or replaced once in a few years (?)
23:25 < kanzure> meh a lot of work :/
23:31 < kanzure> hm, i played with virtualbox once before but not lately
23:31 < kanzure> has it improved?
23:41 < QuantumG> its ok
23:41 < QuantumG> ui is shit
23:45 < ybit> kanzure: it's fine, i run win xp and ubuntu on vbox
23:46 < ybit> i've even got win 7 but my sys crawls when running it
23:49 < QuantumG> was it virtualbox that recently did DirectX->OpenGL support recently?
23:49 < QuantumG> apparently so
23:49 < QuantumG> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/virtualbox-3-directx.html