--- Day changed Sun Mar 07 2010 00:31 < ybit> the gov site i was thinking of yesterday was http://fbo.gov 01:02 < ybit> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zZU_WNmHZY 01:02 < ybit> "i tried emacs" 01:50 -!- katsmeow is now known as katsmeow-afk 01:53 -!- marainein [~marainein@220-253-108-195.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:06 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:422:84a2:52c6:ef50] has left #hplusroadmap [] 02:13 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-38-85.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:32 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-38-85.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:54 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:422:84a2:52c6:ef50] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:21 < JayDugger> Has anyone else tried Rapportive, the FF/Chrome add-on? 04:21 < JayDugger> "replace the ads in your Gmail with photos, biographic data and social media links, including a live display of recent Tweets, for whoever you're corresponding with by email." 04:21 < JayDugger> Skinput is also neat, but the paper doesn't come out until 20100412. 04:22 < JayDugger> I wonder why he didn't just set it up for touch typing as if on a chorded keyboard? 04:22 < JayDugger> He probably doesn't touch type. :) 04:27 < JayDugger> http://www.chrisharrison.net/projects/skinput/ 05:03 < genehacker> kanzure you awake, sebastian wants to talk 05:16 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-38-85.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:14 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 06:52 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:16 < kanzure> why doesn't sebiastian just contact me directly 07:23 < kanzure> i had the strangest dream subject last night 07:23 < kanzure> algebraic p-fields 07:23 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-adically_closed_field 07:38 -!- marainein [~marainein@220-253-108-195.VIC.netspace.net.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 07:50 < kanzure> genehacker: you lied, sebastian did not want to talk 08:10 < kanzure> sebastien 08:54 -!- strages [~strages@c-76-29-243-225.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:57 -!- Noahj [~noah@ip68-230-157-203.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:03 -!- Noahj [~noah@ip68-230-157-203.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:08 -!- avicenna [~avicenna@CPE001f5b002fd7-CM00407b859474.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:30 -!- any74303409 [~someone@75-120-43-159.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:33 -!- katsmeow-afk [~someone@75-120-1-62.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:42 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:05 < kanzure> http://pdfqueen.com/ i.e. http://www.pdfqueen.com/pdf/ac/accepted-received/ 10:05 < kanzure> seems to have google-cache items listed for some reason? 10:17 < kanzure> cargotecture? 10:24 < kanzure> hm you can enslave the human race for about $300T/year 10:29 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:42 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/world_domination.html 10:42 < kanzure> i should carry something like this around and show it to venture fund players 10:43 < Utopiah> except they are already running this since few centuries 10:43 < Utopiah> they are called banks or hedge funds and such, nothing new there for them 10:45 < Utopiah> aggregated through WTO to lobby against minimum wage and protections, they keep on trying to secure a higher and higher ROI 10:47 < kanzure> ok i'll add it to the "market competition" section 10:47 < Utopiah> regarding VCs I recently started http://fabien.benetou.fr/ReadingNotes/VentureCapitalAndTheFinanceOfInnovation 10:52 < Utopiah> btw, communication tip, don't put your EEG toy picture on that TWD page :P 11:09 -!- Noahj [~noah@ip68-230-157-203.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:21 < kanzure> todo: get back to work on the model of what everyone is searching for (or doing) in a day 11:21 < kanzure> you can probably map this to the govt's list of jobs, and then also markov chains for generating search queries, plus some simple ontology of categories of work or "things that people do" 11:21 -!- Noahj [~noah@ip68-230-157-203.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:46 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@w-mob400-128-62-218-70.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:50 -!- any74303409 is now known as katsmeow 12:06 < fenn> oh, skinput is a sixth-sense thing... i thought you were referring to skkinput, the japanese input method 12:10 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:21 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@w-mob400-128-62-218-70.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:22 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:23 < Utopiah> http://www.openculture.com/ (shared just because it has "open" in its name) 12:32 < fenn> freeculture has them beat 12:33 < fenn> becausethey have free in the name 12:35 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@w-mob400-128-62-218-70.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:44 -!- hundred-ideas [~100ideas@209-6-54-14.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:52 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@w-mob400-128-62-218-70.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:02 < fenn> ok apparently my internet connection sucks today so i'm not going to get any work done... this is what i did so far: http://fennetic.net/irc/wearable_wishlist.txt 13:04 < kanzure> btw what about getting the beagleboard working or fixed or something 13:04 < kanzure> iirc you fried it (or not)? 13:04 < kanzure> or had trouble flashing the boot sector 13:05 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-38-85.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:09 < kanzure> genehacker: you were wrong, sebastien did not want to talk with me 13:09 < kanzure> :( 13:09 < genehacker> what? 13:09 < genehacker> he did last night? 13:09 < kanzure> nope, go read the logs 13:09 < genehacker> oops 13:10 < genehacker> sorry about that 13:10 < kanzure> :/ 13:10 < genehacker> link to logs? 13:11 < kanzure> i just have aggregate logs of #reprap since 2 years ago, i don't want to dig through it 13:11 < kanzure> but anyway 13:11 < kanzure> i wish they were more interested in cooperating 13:13 < kanzure> looks like a massive health correlation study: http://www.traitwise.com/ 13:20 < fenn> i think i was having some sort of electrical interference in the beagle board, i dont think it's broken, just the fact that it's a bare board sitting on a desk with various electrical fields going on around it 13:27 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-38-85.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:27 < fenn> i got discouraged since it wasnt behaving deterministically 13:32 < Utopiah> http://www.metagovernment.org/ support the development and use of Internet tools which enable the members of any community to fully participate in the governance of that community. 14:08 -!- katsmeow is now known as katsmeow-afk 14:48 -!- avicenna [~avicenna@CPE001f5b002fd7-CM00407b859474.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: avicenna] 14:49 -!- strages [~strages@c-76-29-243-225.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:50 -!- nchaimov_ [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:50 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:50 -!- nchaimov_ is now known as nchaimov 14:54 < fenn> haha now i know hot to avoid: http://www.meetup.com/batsig/members/8641258/ 14:54 < fenn> s/hot/who/ 15:04 -!- Noahj [~noah@ip68-230-157-203.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:07 < kanzure> fenn: i was using that (IB) ("interactive brokers") yesterday :/ 15:08 < Utopiah> my finance page http://fabien.benetou.fr/Content/FinancialTools (just added meetup + ibpy) 15:09 < kanzure> i was thinking of simulating traders once for market analysis purposes 15:09 < kanzure> like, a majority of them are going to be using the same stupid indicators and methods 15:09 < fenn> um, you're investing in stocks now? 15:09 < fenn> lawrence wong is into a lot of cool stuff 15:09 < fenn> (jjinux) 15:09 < kanzure> so you might as well just predict how stupid they are going to be 15:16 < kanzure> is there a way to force wget to not download when it hits a 404? 15:22 < kanzure> apparently --output-document overwrites the default behavior of ignoring 404'd stuff 15:37 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:422:84a2:52c6:ef50] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:52 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:52 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:56 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-57-16-175.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:05 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@vpn174-171.uoregon.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:10 -!- nchaimov_ [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:13 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@vpn174-171.uoregon.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:13 -!- nchaimov_ is now known as nchaimov 16:28 < Utopiah> (OnBioVC http://onbiovc.com/ Your Source for BioScience Venture Capital Data) 16:36 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe29dd00-137.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:38 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe29dd00-137.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:50 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 18:16 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:34 < ybit> kanzure: what is "via"? 18:35 < ybit> in the context of #bioinformatics 18:36 < kanzure> if you tell me about "joe humperfucken" you'd be put down as the "via" 18:59 -!- Noahj [~noah@ip68-230-157-203.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:16 < kanzure> can someone send an email to kanzure+hplusroadmap@gmail.com 19:16 < kanzure> i want to see if this works :) 19:19 < nsh> sent 19:19 < kanzure> cool, it works 19:20 < nsh> yay 19:20 < QuantumG> I have a system to win at blackjack. 19:20 < nsh> run a table? 19:21 < QuantumG> I bet the minimum and play like a madman. This causes the old Asian ladies at the table to go *nuts*. “You stupid!! Why you ask for another card? Now we all lose!” It’s *hours* of cheap entertainment, and the drinks are free. 19:21 < nsh> lol 19:21 < nsh> why do they lose if you go bust? 19:21 < QuantumG> no, it's when you hit on 14 and the dealer has a 2 showing 19:21 < QuantumG> or you hit on 16, just for the hell of it 19:22 < nsh> interesting 19:22 < QuantumG> hitting on 18 is entertainment++++ 19:24 < kanzure> i'm interested in seeing if i can find a stock trading algorithm that can net me 10k lossy transactions per 1 gain transaction, but with adjustable values in both categories (for the amount in the transactions) 19:27 < nsh> what's a lossy/gain transaction? 19:36 < kanzure> a lossy transaction is one where you were in a position for a while and lost money overall 19:36 < kanzure> a transaction that results in a gain is a net-win for you 19:36 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: klafka, Phreedom, kristianpaul, ybit2 19:37 < kanzure> a good strategy is to not care how many times you lose, as long as you lose little each time. and it doesn't matter how many times you win, as long as you win (relatively) big 19:38 < kanzure> anyway i have a 1GB data set and i've been working (off-and-on forever now) on a little simulation framework for trying out different strategies and bots 19:38 -!- Netsplit over, joins: klafka, kristianpaul, ybit2, Phreedom 19:38 < kanzure> oh wait. 497 MB 19:59 < kanzure> kristianpaul was asking for a dxf2opencascade tool.. i am surprised there isn't a dxf2stl or something out there for this purpose 19:59 < kanzure> i guess i forgot to write it 19:59 < kristianpaul> :) 19:59 < nsh> keep me appraised if you start making lots of money 19:59 < kristianpaul> i was trying dxf with heeks so no luck either 19:59 < kanzure> nsh: why 20:00 < nsh> because i might not make rent for this year 20:12 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.165.145.6] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:12 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.165.145.6] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:16 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.165.145.6] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:17 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.7.138.249] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:24 -!- katsmeow-afk is now known as katsmeow 20:25 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:25 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:39 < JayDugger> !info help 20:40 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.7.138.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:44 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:08 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@20011017479.ip23.mediacommerce.com.co] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:36 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@20011017479.ip23.mediacommerce.com.co] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:37 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@190.7.138.249] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:45 < kanzure> http://piny.be/piny-code/architecture/needed_user_facing_infrastructure/ 21:45 < kanzure> ikiwiki project hosting stuff 21:53 < kanzure> git://piny.be/piny-web 22:04 < kanzure> "The key to making it secure is configuring ikiwiki to run as your git repository's pre-receive hook. There it will examine every change that untrusted users push into the wiki, and reject pushes that contain changes that cannot be made using the web interface." 22:04 < kanzure> http://ikiwiki.info/tips/untrusted_git_push/ 22:04 < kanzure> gee that's nice :) 22:07 < JayDugger> Why would you want to force people to use the web interface? What advantage does that provide in return for losing off-line edits? 22:07 < kanzure> nono 22:07 < kanzure> that ikiwki untrusted git push just allows you to work offline and push anonymously instead of waiting for a login to be created on the server-end for you 22:08 < JayDugger> With you so far, yes. 22:08 < kanzure> and then on the pre-receive hook, it makes sure the user isn't doing something that they wouldn't be allowed to do anonymously on the wiki anyway (like spam the front page) 22:09 < JayDugger> Hmm...perhaps I assume a web interface to ikiwiki like that for Twiki or Mediawiki: the crappy online mark-up based text areas. 22:11 < kanzure> yeah that's usually what happens 22:11 < kanzure> and for some reason users insist on having a wiki these days 22:12 < JayDugger> Okay, so ikiwiki's sandbox has the classic crap-tastic on-line text area. 22:12 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:12 < JayDugger> Wiki's have many advantages. I wish I could get everyone where I work to use one. 22:13 < JayDugger> P(Co-workers use wiki)< The OpenID log-in's nice. 22:14 < JayDugger> If you look at setting up a public wiki, there's http://www.wikipatterns.com/display/wikipatterns/Wikipatterns 22:15 < kanzure> hm i didn't know alioth was based on an open source framework (fusionforge.org) 22:18 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:30 < JayDugger> Time to commute. Good night, all. 22:30 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-57-16-175.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #hplusroadmap [] 22:35 < kanzure> "The research demonstrated that one type of dopamine receptor aids the ability to focus, and another type improves the learning itself." 22:36 < kanzure> i am not yet convinced that ritalin, adderall, etc. have a primary effect due to dopamine.. it's always been a kind of "unverified claim" in the research as far as i can tell 22:36 < kanzure> "well we don't know what it does, so let's just choose the most popular neurotransmitters!" 22:36 < kanzure> ""We found that a dopamine receptor, known as the D2 receptor, controls the ability to stay focused on a task - the well-known benefit of Ritalin," said Patricia Janak, PhD, co-senior author on the paper. "But we also discovered that another dopamine receptor, D1, underlies learning efficiency."" 22:37 < kanzure> fenn: they are in your neck of the woods if you want to go hit them up 22:37 < kanzure> "However, they also found that if they blocked the dopamine D1 receptors with drugs, Ritalin was unable to enhance learning. And if they blocked D2 receptors, Ritalin failed to improve focus." er maybe that's just because blocking dopamine is like blocking ATP or ATD etc.? 22:38 < katsmeow> so lets ot block D1 ? 22:47 < klafka> "so basically we still don't know wtf we are doing" 22:59 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:38 -!- marainein [~marainein@220.253-199-222.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #hplusroadmap