--- Day changed Sat Mar 27 2010 00:55 -!- jrayhawk [~jrayhawk@orchitis.omgwallhack.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:19 < fenn> interesting, the frankencamera is based on OMAP3 01:26 < fenn> ooh this is neat.. "dark flash photography" using IR/UV instead of visible light: http://cs.nyu.edu/~dilip/wordpress/?page_id=38 01:41 < marainein> hopefully it won't damage anyone's eyesight 01:47 < fenn> other neat links on this page http://graphics.stanford.edu/projects/camera-2.0/faq.html 02:29 -!- marainein [~marainein@220.253-236-208.VIC.netspace.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:45 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-60-26.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:52 -!- jrayhawk [~jrayhawk@orchitis.omgwallhack.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:21 -!- shepazu [~schepers@2002:d106:d41b:1234:21e:52ff:fe81:88fa] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:17 < Utopiah> (LHC First Physics Live Webcast http://webcast.cern.ch/lhcfirstphysics/ 30 March 2010) 04:24 -!- Noahj [~noah@ip68-230-157-203.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:40 < QuantumG> http://quantumg.blogspot.com/2010/03/moon-first-for-robotic-exploration.html 04:56 -!- Utopiah is now known as UtopiahGHML 04:59 < kanzure> http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=466186811 "Official Company Rep for Myo-T12." 04:59 < kanzure> fenn: yes the wifi fingerprinting code works on linux 05:00 -!- UtopiahGHML is now known as Utopiah 05:02 -!- Utopiah is now known as UtopiahGHML 05:02 -!- UtopiahGHML is now known as Utopiah 05:06 < kanzure> wtf he used eval() to do this? sigh 05:21 < kanzure> google scholar cloaking? what? http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1597368&cid=31638332 i presume this is about their papers showing up in search results that nobody is able to access? 05:22 < QuantumG> that and the "8 more results like this", some of which are full text because the author retains copyright and isn't a cunt. 05:23 < kanzure> or because someone likes me posts up a pdf to the interwebz 05:23 < QuantumG> for sure 05:26 < QuantumG> >For inspection systems I've done at a nuclear fuel manufacturer, we 05:26 < QuantumG> >have a lot of parameters that vary with the type of nuclear fuel rod 05:26 < QuantumG> >(fat ones, skinny ones etc.) being inspected before they go into 05:26 < QuantumG> >electric power generating reactors. Mistakes can be *very* costly, 05:26 < QuantumG> >though fortunately not likely to be deadly. 05:26 < QuantumG> Even ones with chickenpox. 05:26 < QuantumG> Trent 06:04 -!- splicer [~patrik@h7n2c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:11 < kanzure> i thought 'art applewhite' was a fake name. i keep seeing it show up, but now i can't remember where 06:16 -!- splicer [~patrik@h7n2c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:17 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%282009_film%29 gross revenue: $2,668,266,471 O_o 06:35 -!- Noahj [~noah@166.186.171.156] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:46 -!- Noahj [~noah@166.186.171.156] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:51 < kanzure> is this some weird part of the uzbl ecosystem? 06:51 < kanzure> http://yllr.net/vimprobable/ 06:58 < kanzure> http://www.uzbl.org/wiki/article_queue.py 07:38 -!- thesnark [~michael@ppp-69-221-10-143.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:07 -!- JayDugger [~Jay_Dugge@12.50.1.2] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:09 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone. 08:09 -!- JayDugger [~Jay_Dugge@12.50.1.2] has left #hplusroadmap [] 08:14 -!- JayDugger [~Jay_Dugge@12.50.1.2] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:20 < kanzure> yay we have wifi 08:38 < JayDugger> I don't suppose you're in Los Angeles, too, kanzure? 08:47 -!- anthony_ [~anthonyl@208-78-67-234-rangeroamerinc.clt.ord.sparkplugbb.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:48 -!- anthonyl [~anthonyl@208-78-67-234-rangeroamerinc.clt.ord.sparkplugbb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:59 < kanzure> JayDugger: in austin 09:00 -!- thesnark [~michael@ppp-69-221-10-143.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:12 < kanzure> now what 09:14 -!- JayDugger [~Jay_Dugge@12.50.1.2] has left #hplusroadmap [] 09:25 < kanzure> http://code.google.com/p/hackerspace-os/ what a poor name for something that isn't an operating system 09:25 -!- Noahj [~noah@pool-173-76-119-94.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:33 < kanzure> "Replicating the great work at Factor e Farm and improving upon it" RCCS? 09:34 < kanzure> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/RepLab_-_the_Open_Source_Fab_Lab so.. why did they split from OM again? someone? 09:38 -!- Noahj [~noah@pool-173-76-119-94.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:23 < kanzure> should i grab download stats from thingiverse too? 10:37 -!- lesnark [~lesnark@NE103922.ni.utoledo.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:37 -!- lesnark is now known as thesnark 10:38 < thesnark> hello 11:04 -!- thesnark [~lesnark@NE103922.ni.utoledo.edu] has quit [Quit: Java user signed off] 11:07 < kanzure> this guy wants to hire me: http://www.downstate.edu/pharmacology/faculty/lytton.html 11:08 < kanzure> he's doing an MEA-interception project with NEURON on live animals 11:08 < kanzure> and i just noticed he also coauthored with markram, hm 11:23 -!- ve [~a@smith.xen.tardis.ed.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:36 -!- ve [~a@smith.xen.tardis.ed.ac.uk] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:56 < kanzure> ha ha he wants to give me access to an hpc supercomputer? 11:56 < kanzure> foolish mortals 12:10 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-60-26.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:15 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:20 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:26 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:29 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:32 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:35 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:38 < kanzure> robert young wants you to talk about supercentenarians here: http://s1.zetaboards.com/Worlds_Oldest_People/index/ 12:38 < kanzure> but i think the GRG list is probably more active 12:38 < kanzure> thing:arduino-to-lego-interface-pieces 12:41 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-60-26.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:41 < fenn> anything i should mention/ask at "personal genomics"? 12:42 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/thingiverse_packages/ behold! 12:42 < kanzure> fenn: 12:42 < fenn> oops, looks like i was an hour off in the scheduling 12:42 < kanzure> hah 12:42 < kanzure> nevermind then. 12:42 < fenn> (it's 12:45 right now, i'm waiting for the 1:00 train) 12:42 < fenn> meh, i'll be a half hour late is all 12:43 < kanzure> make sure they cover genome alignment and assembly, i guess 12:44 < fenn> "It's free food Saturday! We have plenty of breakfast carbs left and fancy pizzas are showing up around noon." these guys know how to do it 12:48 < fenn> so are you planning on scraping all of the thingiverse data too? or just the metadata 12:48 < kanzure> i haven't downloaded the images and files yet for each project 12:49 < kanzure> also, i am not capturing "tools this depends on" or discussion data or license data 12:49 < kanzure> crud i forgot to do license metadata? 12:50 < fenn> license seems important 12:50 < fenn> bbl 13:20 < kanzure> the "bare bones license"? 13:29 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/thingiverse/thingiverse_packages/business-card-gun/businesscardgun.svg 13:29 < kanzure> guess we're getting militant about the networking thing 13:29 < kanzure> i better make a business card grenade before i forget 13:49 < fenn> hm well it's more of a powerpoint thing 13:57 -!- ybit2 [ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:58 -!- ybit2 [ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:15 -!- zvader [~zvader@heckle.icmb.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:16 -!- zvader [~zvader@heckle.icmb.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:01 -!- bkero [~freenode@osuosl/staff/bkero] has quit [Excess Flood] 15:05 -!- bkero [~freenode@osuosl/staff/bkero] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:05 -!- bkero [~freenode@osuosl/staff/bkero] has quit [Excess Flood] 15:09 -!- ybit_ [~quassel@c-71-228-184-130.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:10 -!- ybit [~quassel@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:12 < fenn> http://diygenomics.pbworks.com 15:15 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:16 -!- bkero [~freenode@osuosl/staff/bkero] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:16 -!- bkero [~freenode@osuosl/staff/bkero] has quit [Excess Flood] 15:46 -!- bkero [~freenode@osuosl/staff/bkero] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:46 -!- bkero [~freenode@osuosl/staff/bkero] has quit [Excess Flood] 15:46 -!- Noahj [~noah@pool-173-76-119-94.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:01 -!- bkero [~freenode@osuosl/staff/bkero] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:01 -!- bkero [~freenode@osuosl/staff/bkero] has quit [Excess Flood] 16:21 -!- ybit_ is now known as ybit 16:21 -!- ybit [~quassel@c-71-228-184-130.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:21 -!- ybit [~quassel@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:22 -!- bkero [~freenode@osuosl/staff/bkero] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:22 -!- bkero [~freenode@osuosl/staff/bkero] has quit [Excess Flood] 16:24 -!- bkero [~bkero@osuosl/staff/bkero] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:38 -!- bkero_ [~freenode@osuosl/staff/bkero] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:06 < kanzure> fenn: i wonder why melanie swan is mentioned on diygenomics.org 17:07 < kanzure> hm: http://openthoughtspace.pbworks.com/Personal-Genome-Analysis 17:07 < kanzure> various startups 17:08 < kanzure> http://www.cloudera.com/blog/2009/10/15/analyzing-human-genomes-with-hadoop/ 17:08 < kanzure> http://bowtie-bio.sf.net/crossbow 17:10 < kanzure> neato: http://soap.genomics.org.cn/soapsnp.html 17:52 < fenn> diygenomics is her + mccauley i think 17:53 < fenn> so the guy who is against me doing circuit board etching designed leonardo's motor controllers? http://www.maximumentropy.org/about/ 17:54 < kanzure> i suspect melanie has some deep pockets 17:54 < kanzure> maximum entropy huh 17:54 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:56 < kanzure> seems like minimized entropy or something if he's against circuit board etchants 17:57 < kanzure> it's not even piranha that you're looking to use, is it? 17:58 < fenn> it's basically chlorine-free bleach 17:59 < fenn> chris meyer (the guy who brought in a 90% complete repstrap) told me i should teach a class on circuit etching as a way to bootstrap people feeling comfortable about having chemicals around 18:02 < fenn> why do you think melanie has deep pockets? 18:03 < fenn> "independent technology analyst" doesnt seem like a lucrative profession 18:09 < fenn> "hedge fund manager" does, however 18:15 < kanzure> :) 18:15 < kanzure> and she funds half the transhumanists, or something 18:16 < kanzure> hmph my front audio jack has been torn to shreds and doesn't give a good signal any more 18:46 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/thingiverse/thingiverse_packages/ 18:47 < kanzure> updated, now with license metadata and tiny images/thumbnails 18:48 < fenn> how long did that take to scrape? 18:49 < kanzure> no more than 3h but probbaly less 18:49 < kanzure> i had various interruptions in between and didn't grab everything at once 18:49 < kanzure> *rpobably 18:49 < kanzure> *probably 18:50 < kanzure> i should probably grab the discussion stuff on each project page :/ and the tools required to build it (but i don't expect this to be thorough or useful) 19:03 < kanzure> i was sitting around at the shop today and could have really used an skdb/generated tutorial (even if it was just 2min) on how to use a table saw "properly" 19:04 < kanzure> primarily i really wanted an ordering system hooked up to BOMs and skdb packages :( but this doesn't exist yet 19:05 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:06 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:09 -!- ve [~a@smith.xen.tardis.ed.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:19 < kanzure> wow wtf http://principialabs.com/python-web-search-agent/ 19:20 < kanzure> dark ages 19:27 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:28 < kanzure> i wonder what the half-life is for an item listed on a BOM anyway 19:28 < kanzure> manufacturers tend to update their catalogs and so on 19:28 < kanzure> for electronics, the components keep the names 19:29 < kanzure> but i can imagine "oh we don't offer that size any more" and other weird things from non-electronics suppliers 19:29 < kanzure> (especially in cases where hardware hasn't been commotized) 19:29 < kanzure> *commoditized 19:55 < kanzure> fenn: please check your inbox re: "proofread 'Call for Volunteers'" 19:56 < kanzure> was wondering if i could get your thoughts on that.. jacob is biting off a lot to chew all at once 19:56 < kanzure> and i fear that he doesn't actually have the ideas developed well enough to do a launch 20:06 < kanzure> "Income distribution within producer cooperatives is structured along egalitarian principles. Either peer pressure or cooperative bylaws see to it that, depending on their skill-level, members receive equal pay for equal work while differences in the number of hours worked are minimized." 20:07 < kanzure> "Most cooperatives institute income differential constraints. In terms of voting weight, and unlike a CF, the principle of one-person one-vote applies independent of member's percentage share of ownership. " 20:11 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:21 < kanzure> i am surprised that debian is not a cooperative, even though it has the same structure 20:22 < kanzure> i think before jacob launches gnusha for me, we should have (1) the open source hardware licensing issue resolved (TAPR + non-assert pledges), (2) debian social contract equivalent, (3) debian free software/hardware guidelines equivalent, (4) and then the co-op constitution thingy (like what the voting is going to be like etc.) 20:23 < kanzure> or not necessarily TAPR but.. yeah. 21:09 < fenn> perhaps old news: http://numptyphysics.garage.maemo.org/ 21:10 < fenn> i dont know what is involved in a "launch" or even what that means 21:11 < fenn> bah numpty-physics isn't in ubuntu? wtf 21:18 < kanzure> numpity dumpity? 21:18 < kanzure> or humphrey mcdumphrey? or something 21:18 < kanzure> fenn: did you see the email 21:19 < kanzure> he forwarded what he considered to be a "launch" 21:19 < kanzure> and i forwarded that to you, plus another email 21:24 < fenn> wah. you're not paying me to read emails :P 21:28 < kanzure> one of these days we're really going to have to figure out who is paying who (even if it's just hypothetical) 21:28 < kanzure> because earlier today i was apparently paying you :x 21:31 < kanzure> *because earlier today you were paying me :x 21:32 < kanzure> see? i even got that wrong on the first time around 21:43 -!- ve [~a@smith.xen.tardis.ed.ac.uk] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:26 -!- marainein [~marainein@220-253-53-181.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:53 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/papers/neuro/Parallel%20network%20simulations%20with%20NEURON.pdf 22:57 < fenn> heh the wifi even works on the train sporadically 23:04 < kanzure> we call that network whoring 23:18 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-60-26.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:19 < genehacker> kanzure you there? 23:20 < kanzure> yes 23:22 < genehacker> you said you used some sort of image tracker for one of the physics labs here? 23:23 < genehacker> do you remember what that was called? 23:23 < kanzure> imagej 23:23 < genehacker> ok 23:24 < genehacker> it's used with java correct? 23:25 < kanzure> yes 23:26 < genehacker> I'm trying to hack together a laser guided sentry turret 23:27 < kanzure> knome hasn't replied to my email in 11 days.. 23:28 < kanzure> blah 23:28 < kanzure> genehacker: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/thingiverse/thingiverse_packages/ 23:29 -!- katsmeow-afk [~someone@75-120-219-240.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:30 -!- any32338239 [~someone@99-195-187-93.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:31 -!- bkero [~bkero@osuosl/staff/bkero] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:32 < kanzure> nrn is more sophisticated than i thought it would be 23:32 < kanzure> at least when it comes to units, variables and cell cross sections 23:32 < kanzure> i am not yet convinced that the parallel MPI architecture is well designed though