--- Day changed Mon Apr 05 2010
00:41 < nsh> what's txlf, kanzure?
00:42 < nsh> texas linuxfest, i guess
01:21 < nsh> kanzure, have you concocted a stalking database with its own file format?
01:27 < nsh> not sure i'm entirely behind 500friends.com
01:27 < nsh> but the design is nice
02:19 < ybit2> cool company in hsv: http://www.aegistg.com/Microsystems_Nanotechnology.htm#Nano
02:31 < fenn> kanzure: what format is http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/bre_pettis.stlk ? and why is the filename bre_pettis.stlk?
02:32 < fenn> parolang: have you considered that you might have a hearing disorder?
02:40 < fenn> i wish meetup would actually tell me about meetups happening in the groups i'm a member of :(
02:42 < bkero> Someday I'll be able to live in the woods :(
02:42 < bkero> With all the tools I'll ever need.
02:43 < fenn> that "giant robot" guy is so fucking annoying
02:44 < fenn> 50 hours of video rambling that could be condensed into two cad drawings and a BOM
02:45 < fenn> bkero you could move in with jamie the robot guy
02:47 < bkero> fenn: Yea.  I'd rather not.
02:48 < bkero> Rather have my own place in the woods.
02:49 < fenn> bkero: have you seen this yet? 
02:49 < fenn> http://www.drtonymroberts.com/faye/blogdex.htm
03:07 < bkero> wtf
03:10 < bkero> fenn: fucking humans
03:13 < fenn> yes, that's what it's about
03:15 < bkero> That's horrid shit
03:16 < fenn> i'm sort of confused what you mean
03:17 < fenn> it's an aspie masochist who lives in the woods and blogs 24/7
03:17 < bkero> lol yes
03:18  * bkero goes to sleep
03:18 < bkero> trying to forget
03:18 < fenn> heh ok
03:18 < fenn> gnite
03:25 < fenn> "AI meetup canceled due to bicycle race" wtf
03:38 < fenn> http://cadexchanger.com/
03:46 < fenn> i guess nobody in here cared about the shuttle launch
03:49 < QuantumG> I did
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07:19 < nsh> know any tools for monitoring internet "chatter"
07:19 < nsh> other than twitter
07:20 < nsh> ?
07:54 < kanzure> fenn: bre_pettis.stlk is not in any particular format
07:54 < kanzure> it shows mutual friends between a given target and all my other friends
07:55 < kanzure> so, bre_pettis.stlk was with target=bre and everything with the '*****' prefix is a friend of bre
07:55 < kanzure> then, lines beginning with friends/ indicates that the person named immediately after the 'friends/' token has the same friend as prefixed with '*****' above
07:56 < kanzure> so: bre is friends with 'aaron tang' and doug, max, and russell are friends with 'aaron' (in particular, i am friends with doug, max and russell)
08:09 < kanzure> > We could all go to lunch after the meeting if you wish.
08:09 < kanzure> I should mention that I have a dietary constraint in that I can only eat delicious foods.
08:20 < kanzure> http://playdeb.net/ .debs for gaming
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08:20 < kanzure> "yo frankie"
08:21 < kanzure> "learn morse code in one minute" http://www.learnmorsecode.com/
08:48 < kanzure> blah they put me on first ??
08:48 < kanzure> http://texaslinuxfest.org/schedule/
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09:38 < kanzure> any ideas for recommendations to give to alex lightman for h+ summit 2010? re: speakers to invite
09:39 < kanzure> he wants me to do a presentation again
09:49 < Redeemer_2> When is the next H+ summit?
09:52 < ybit2> Redeemer_2: /me thinks the details are on facebook
09:52 < ybit2> citizen science is the theme
09:53 < ybit2> or was that the meetup that was held in march?
09:54 < Redeemer_2> June AND December, interesting.
09:56 < Redeemer_2> Well hopefully I can score myself a better job at the local airport and get some flight benefits to catch em both
09:57 < Redeemer_2> Maybe even get myself in as a speaker for the December event
09:59 < kanzure> what would you speak about
10:05 < kanzure> google:"how to spend more money" sadly doesn't return many appropriate results
10:05 < Redeemer_2> Likely on the effects of oxidation effects and oxygen therapy on living aerobic organisms as a method of life enhancement and longevity enhancement.
10:07 < Redeemer_2> More importantly, ways it can be done safely and effectively by your average person, and multiple studies' results put together into data I can fit into a 20-30 minute talk, perhaps even one of my own studies with say, mice if I can manage it.
10:08 < kanzure> have you seen this yet? http://designfiles.org/papers/longevity/
10:11 < Redeemer_2> Excellent, stuff to read while I have nothing else to do, I thank thee
10:43 < kanzure> egeste: can i have your full name? feel free to pm it if you're a privacyfreak
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10:45 < egeste> nah
10:45 < egeste> Steve Regester
10:45 < egeste> I prefer to go by egeste on the interbutts tho
10:46 < kanzure> understandable
10:46 < kanzure> so, i've proposed something to les
10:46 < kanzure> basically the austin hackerspace (aka, martin/matt/mike) is renting out space from les
10:46 < kanzure> and some other people are renting out space from les
10:46 < kanzure> it would be really absolutely stupid for me to have to pay membership fees to AHS just for the privelege of screwing over les
10:47 < kanzure> so, i'm thinking of asking him to make it a requirement that other people in the shop are made either board members or given free membership or something
10:47 < kanzure> it's kind of silly that AHS is trying to do a hackerspace within a hackerspace
10:47 < kanzure> and it's *really* confusing
10:49 < Dustbin> it is a bit confusing
10:51 < kanzure> actually i should correct myself- i already sent that email to les
10:51 < kanzure> suggesting it.
10:53 < egeste> meh, if I can stay out of the beaurocracy I will - I would rather just show up and help get shit done
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10:54 < kanzure> egeste: easy for you to say
10:54 < kanzure> egeste: i'm worried that they will fuck over les
10:54 < kanzure> i mean, he doesn't even get a mention on the wiki
10:54 < kanzure> wtf
10:56 < egeste> I don't know that I can say anything intelligent on the issue, not having a full understanding of what the current situation is
10:58 < kanzure> i think "AHS is a hackerspace within a hackerspace" is a good way of putting it. i don't think there's much more to it.
11:01 < kanzure> anyway, i'll try to fix things and this won't be an issue
11:01 < kanzure> so your instinct to ignore it is a good one
11:01 < kanzure> did you check out any of the links i gave?
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11:13 < egeste> yeah, I spent some time reading, alot of it was over my head
11:13 < egeste> but I'm @ work rihgt now
11:13 < egeste> solving problems
11:14 < egeste> or something
11:14 < egeste> we have a buggy iphone app and webapps that need to be built yesterday
11:14 < egeste> as always :/
11:15 < kanzure> i've been doing some iphone app dev, but i don't know why
11:15 < kanzure> the hardest thing about it is doing iphone app development work but not having an iphone or a mac
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13:44 < parolang> <fenn> parolang: have you considered that you might have a hearing disorder? <-- I actually have a lot of evidence that it is ADHD or something very similar to it.
13:44 < parolang> It's not *just* the listening to people thing.
13:45 < egeste> marijuana = best ADD medication
13:46 < parolang> As strange as it sounds, other than ritalin when I was a kid, I've never used any drugs.
13:46 < parolang> I don't drink nor smoke either.
13:47 < parolang> I use a lot of caffiene, if that counts :)
13:47 < parolang> But I'm actually trying to be more successful at work/school, so showing up stoned doesn't sound like a winner to me :)
13:48 < egeste> oh man
13:48 < egeste> i disagree
13:48 < egeste> showing up stoned and kicking ass is how to do it
13:48 < parolang> heh :)
13:49 < egeste> I'm big fan of respecting quality of work and completely ignoring just about everything else
13:50 < egeste> I don't really care that our lead deveoper stings like kimchi and never bathes, he gets shit done
13:50 < egeste> stinks*
13:59 < parolang> Well...I don't work in a box, so can't get away with that :)
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14:05 < QuantumG> http://thespaceshow.com/live.htm  starting now
14:05 < QuantumG> Eric Lerner
14:12 < kanzure> "Amino is a project involving both software and hardware to build an OpenSource hardware development platform for DSP like applications. It's goal is to produce an approachable platform for DSP modular application development."
14:12 < kanzure> http://github.com/folknology/Amino
14:12 < kanzure> http://oshug.org/ open source hardware user group (in london)
14:18 < kanzure> http://www.cckits.com/ "creative commons kits"
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15:10 < kanzure> april 21 diybio-seattle meeting
15:23 < fenn> ah, digikey is so refreshingly reasonable about shipping costs
15:27 < fenn> heh "evangelist for rent"
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15:31 < fenn> kanzure: re: gnusha.org, i don't think you're ever allowed to complain about my web design skills
15:32 < fenn> and why does it think it's translated german?
15:32 < fenn> oh oops nm
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16:00 < kanzure> fenn: can i say something like "oh but i'm not even trying"
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16:28 < fenn> this tanker hat smells like a soviet tank, but it's surprisingly comfortable once you get used to it
16:28 < kanzure> yeah once you get used to the smell of guts, blood and semitism
16:30 < fenn> actually it just smells like gasoline
16:30 < fenn> btw there is no such thing as "semitism"
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16:33 < fenn> two microphones, two headphones, and 4 electrical contacts?
16:33 < fenn> something doesn't add up
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17:10 < kanzure> stalk: keith chester
17:12 < kanzure> any suggestions for the laser cutter and windows?
17:12 < kanzure> it has never done vector mode and always wants to do raster
17:12 < kanzure> when it is explicitly set into vector mode, "start job" just makes it beep twice
17:12 < kanzure> in raster/vector mode, it always chooses raster
17:12 < kanzure> in raster mode the result is rastered of course
17:21 < kanzure> cool the laser cutter is HPGL-compatible
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17:53 < fenn> "Jane, in retaliation to Dick constantly reverting changes she's made to the wiki, shits on top of the electronics bench. A statement to those (everyone) that haven't stopped talking to Dick. This is called an Austin Solder Puddle."
17:53 < fenn> learn something new every day
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18:16 < QuantumG> http://i.imgur.com/NVih0.jpg
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20:25 < kanzure> http://www.333skis.com/wow-an-open-letter.php "Kristin and I are starting to work with several High School Shop teachers to set up programs for educating students in the art of Open Source Manufacturing."
20:26 < Noahj> Yay!
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21:12 < kanzure> hrm todd's dad is a youth minister person thing
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23:39 < kanzure> does anyone know wtf this stuff is? http://designfiles.org/~bryan/uls25ps/ess.myvnc.com:8928/DISK%201/
23:40 < kanzure> this sorta looks like a BOM for my laser cutter? http://designfiles.org/~bryan/uls25ps/ess.myvnc.com:8928/DISK%201/Other%20Files/ULS/ULS%20Parts%20images/
23:40 < kanzure> except .. via .jpg files
23:41 < kanzure> oooh manuals! http://designfiles.org/~bryan/uls25ps/ess.myvnc.com:8928/DISK%201/Other%20Files/ULS/manuals/
23:41 < genehacker> oh neat
23:45 < genehacker> is that from the disk of the laser cutter?
23:45 < genehacker> I really need to design a fancy laser-cutterable business card like this:
23:46 < genehacker> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:211
23:46 < genehacker> but with a cooler mechanism
23:53 < kanzure> no
23:53 < kanzure> it was stolen from some vnc network thing
23:54 < fenn> genehacker: theo jansen mechanism + pancake pcb motor
23:55 < fenn> "caution contains rare earth magnets, do not put in wallet"
23:59 < genehacker> I was thinking a lipkin linkage, non-round gears, a stirling engine, or a business card that turns into an ornitopther and flies
23:59 < genehacker> I don't believe they make PCB motors thin enough
23:59 < genehacker> it'd be much better to have a hand crank