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00:56 < heath> kanzure: do you have an archive of http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/DNA_synthesizer by chance?
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02:43 < nsh> if not, he likely can wield tar and gzip 
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05:01 < kanzure> heath: it's hidden on a hard drive around here somewhere
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06:05 < kanzure> haha people are worried that thingiverse.com is becoming a place for people's "practice cad files"
06:06 < klafka> hey kanzure so have you heard of patientslikeme.com and 23andme.com ?
06:06 < Utopiah> klafka: gathered few related links at http://fabien.benetou.fr/Content/Health#PersonalGenomics
06:07 < klafka> i had an interesting...discussion with the founder of patientslikeme.com yesterday and heard some talks asked a few questions of one of the i guess statisticians of 23andme and one of their co-founders
06:12 < kanzure> klafka: yes
06:12 < kanzure> btw i'm going to be busy until late in the afternoon today, so don't be surprised if i am dead
06:14 < klafka> kk
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11:31 < JayDugger> More good news from the girlfriend! Not only did she say, "Cryonics? I've thought about that," but today she said "tools are neat!"
11:31 < JayDugger> This should make getting a CNC mill after I move in much easier. :)
11:34 < kanzure> wait until you tell her the pricetag
11:34 < kanzure> *then* celebrate
11:34 < JayDugger> Killjoy.
11:34 < JayDugger> I was hinting for wedding presents, but you're not invited now. :P
11:34 < kanzure> it's my middle name
12:05 < kanzure> biotorrents on nature blog: http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegreatbeyond/2010/04/improving_the_portability_of_d_1.html
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15:34 < fenn> kanzure: heybryan.org seems to be down
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16:01 < kanzure> fenn: i don't know how to diagnose the problem. proprietary networking equipment :/
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17:03 < kanzure> joseph jackson has been having some trouble with jacob :/
17:22 < fenn> drama llama
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17:59 < kanzure> fenn: ?
18:02 < fenn> yes?
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18:05 < kanzure> fenn: where did llama come from
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18:11 < fenn> "joseph jackson has been having some trouble with jacob"
18:20 < kanzure> and how does a llama get involved in that
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22:47 < heath> so what's the business model behind offering free wifi for a city? 
22:50 < marainein> steal personal information and bank account details from the people who use it
22:52 < QuantumG> ad insertion
22:53 < heath> QuantumG: i thought about ad insertion, i've seen it demonstrated in mitm attacks via the metasploit framework once
22:54 < QuantumG> .. not that there has to be a business model.. if you live in a place where local government is free to offer such services there might be motivations like "more communication is good for economic development" or "an informed populous is a better place to live" or whatever.
22:54 < QuantumG> it's much easier than that
22:54 < QuantumG> you just put in a transparent web proxy
22:54 < heath> right, you could push it to where everyone pays taxes for it
22:55 < heath> i was looking for ways of making a little $
22:55 < heath> ads in a transparent web proxy, huh?
22:55 < heath> if so, plz explain
22:55 < QuantumG> well, if you're trying to make money from giving something away.. ads are about the only way I'm aware of :)
22:57 < QuantumG> I've never done it myself, but you do a normal transparent proxy setup, and then rewrite the html to insert your ad rotation.  If you want to replace ads rather than just add them, you can use ad blocking lists.
23:06 < heath> oh, transparent web proxy, right.. :P
23:06 < heath> *yawn*
23:07  * heath notes to self not to teach basic anything to someone who's impatient without charging 
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