--- Day changed Tue Apr 20 2010 00:07 < genehacker> I've been considering one myself 00:08 < genehacker> only problem is the damned slow human growth rate 00:08 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:32 -!- randallagordon [~randallag@c-76-115-121-108.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:34 -!- randallagordon [~randallag@c-76-115-121-108.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:38 < fenn> cool. parametric timing pulley http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1362 00:41 < fenn> tags: "useful" 00:41 < fenn> well that's good to know 00:47 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:00 -!- chupacabra [~chupacabr@cpe-70-112-123-173.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:36 < fenn> http://www.aerogel.org/ 02:16 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:17 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:23 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-41-48.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:26 -!- Redeemer_2 [~Redeemer_@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:33 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:35 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-41-48.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:40 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:40 -!- Redeemer_2_ [~Redeemer_@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:44 -!- Redeemer_2 [~Redeemer_@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:45 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 02:45 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:57 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:06 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-41-48.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Quit: you can help me save the Earth from a terrible experience, yes the whole Earth.] 03:38 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:42 < fenn> urbandictionary is a great source for project names 04:04 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:12 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:13 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:31 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:32 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 04:41 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:47 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:53 -!- Redeemer_2_ [~Redeemer_@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:04 < chupacabra> lol 05:06 < fenn> hum nasatv is delayed by two minutes 05:07 < fenn> dudes looking at computers.. fascinating 05:08 < fenn> you'd think they'd have a telescope watching the shuttle 05:33 < JayDugger> Yeah, space isn't always spectacular. 05:34 < QuantumG> NASA == boring people.. NASA tv = boring people filming boring people 05:45 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-146-254.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:58 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:00 -!- klafka [~klafka@129.21.69.90] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:20 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:25 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:25 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Excess Flood] 06:26 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:34 < JayDugger> Not quite. Occasionally NASA does something interesting. 06:34 < JayDugger> Just not recently. 06:34 < JayDugger> Like since Apollo ended. :( 06:35 < klafka> heh yeah in the last ~30 or so years 06:35 < JayDugger> 1980? 06:35 < JayDugger> Skylab counts? 06:37 < klafka> i dunno the ~ means approximately 06:37 < klafka> :P 06:37 < JayDugger> Blah...I think will forego my usual space rant...and point out Bigelow Aerospace does interesting work right now. 06:37 < JayDugger> And return to housework. 06:43 < fenn> half-sleep idea: instead of "social" or "socialized" or "societal" how about "shared engineering knowledge database" 06:44 < parolang> The next Mars lander would have been cool...I don't know if it's still in the plan. 06:45 < parolang> Nuclear powered, I think it's called the Mars Lab or something. 06:45 < parolang> I'm rather relieved that they cut constellation. 06:45 < parolang> It sounded like constellation wasn't going anywhere. 06:52 < JayDugger> Mars Science Lab. 06:52 < JayDugger> It has a RTG, IIRC. 06:54 < parolang> yeah, I always thought that one sounded interesting, just from a technical point of view 06:54 < JayDugger> http://nuclear.gov/pdfFiles/MMRTG.pdf 06:55 < parolang> Yeah, one of those things I knew at one time but then stopped thinking about. 06:55 < JayDugger> http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/mission/launchvehicle/ 06:55 < JayDugger> Altas V, in Fall 2011. 06:56 < parolang> All I know is that it is the power source of Tony Stark's arc reactor. 06:56 < JayDugger> Heh, heh...Marvel Comics did a technical manual for the Iron Man armor. 06:57 < JayDugger> "assembled by bacteria..." no fooling... 06:57 < parolang> Oh yeah? Might be cool enough to buy :) 06:57 < JayDugger> Probably available illegally at your local source of torrents, or at your neighborhood comic book shop..."The Iron Manual." 06:58 < parolang> Or...online? :) 06:58 < JayDugger> Probably...couldn't say where you know, but there's always google. 06:58 < parolang> I have my Star Trek TNG Technical Manual in my bookcase, just in case I need to look up the power source for photon torpedos. 06:59 < parolang> That first link you gave is interesting. 07:00 < JayDugger> Oh, the RTG PDF? 07:00 < parolang> yeah 07:00 < parolang> I guess mainly because I'm unfamiliar with the technology. 07:00 < JayDugger> You can probably find a lot more if you wget -A pdf http://jpl.nasa.gov or the like. 07:01 < parolang> sure...hmm, is plutonium-238 dioxide radioactive? 07:02 < parolang> Yes...the answer is yes. 07:07 < JayDugger> Wouldn't be much point in its use for power otherwise. :) 07:22 -!- superkuh [~hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:29 < genehacker> assembled by bacteria? 07:39 < JayDugger> Iron Man's armor, don't you know...arguing from fiction, yeah, I know. 08:00 < parolang> Yeah, given all we know about Iran Man's armor, being assembled by bacteria is just unrealistic. 08:01 -!- anthony_ [~anthonyl@208-78-67-234-rangeroamerinc.clt.ord.sparkplugbb.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:04 < JayDugger> Let's not argue imaginary hardware. I apologize for bringing it up. 08:10 < kanzure> i *am* iron man, you insensitive clod! 08:10 < kanzure> er, also, good morning 08:13 < parolang> I was just teasing JayDugger :) 08:13 < JayDugger> No worries... 08:14 < parolang> The main thing I liked about the Iron Man movie was watching the suit get constructed, the interface, etc...a guy can dream :) 08:21 -!- ybit [ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:31 < kanzure> "I already wear sunglasses to browse the web, on account of all the flash and poor color choices." 08:31 < kanzure> "Although this is an improvement over the 90s. Back then I wore a welding mask." 08:33 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:43 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:1c77:5ff3:52c6:ef50] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:49 -!- Salain [~d8e6ec5c@gateway/web/freenode/x-mgemtalrfosbftye] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:52 < kanzure> xprizes for human enhancement :) http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/msg/46003499034c9b25 08:59 < Salain> "neurobiology" is... 09:00 < Salain> well it is good I guess, but things like imaging, memory, consciousness, decision making - they aren't the kind of things where an x-prize is really going to make a big impact 09:00 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-146-254.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:01 < Salain> howard hughes has thrown billions at those kind of problems 09:01 < Salain> nih as well 09:05 < kanzure> a little birdie was telling me that there'll be an upcoming xprize for demonstrating the ability to encode an arbitrary sequence of numbers and have them played back perfectly (50 digits or something) 09:06 < kanzure> (yes using a savant is cheating) 09:35 < kanzure> is hanno a male or female name? 09:37 < kanzure> "strange creature lives without oxygen" http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/08/strange-creature-lives-oxygen/?test=latestnews 09:37 < kanzure> "This newfound creature, a loriciferan found more than 10,000 feet deep off the southern coast of Greece, lives completely without oxygen" 09:37 < kanzure> yay extremophiles 09:38 < kanzure> hm they are making their assumption on the lack of mitochondria and their habitat 09:38 < kanzure> but even at those depths stray oxygen atoms and o2 molecules can find their way 09:40 * kanzure looks through bmc biology for the article 09:40 < kanzure> http://www.biomedcentral.com/bmcbiol/ 09:40 < kanzure> http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7007/8/30 "The first metazoa living in permanently anoxic conditions" 09:40 < kanzure> pdf: http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1741-7007-8-30.pdf 09:41 < kanzure> local: http://designfiles.org/papers/The%20first%20metazoa%20living%20in%20permanently%20anoxic%20conditions%20-%20extremophiles.pdf 10:00 < kanzure> so apparently facebook apps can only run on port 80 10:00 < kanzure> facebook literally will not let you use any http server on any other port to communicate with their servers 10:31 -!- Salain [~d8e6ec5c@gateway/web/freenode/x-mgemtalrfosbftye] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:33 < katsmeow-afk> i seem to recall some living whatevers found in the deep Pacific 20+ yrs ago with trinary stranded dna, not binary ; and living without oxygen as an oxidant isn't new 10:36 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/2009-07-01_to_2010-04-20.png 10:45 -!- ve [~a@smith.xen.tardis.ed.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:46 -!- ve [~a@smith.xen.tardis.ed.ac.uk] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:16 -!- ybit [ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:17 -!- kanzure [bryan@146.6.88.45] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:17 -!- fenn [fenn@146.6.88.45] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:02 -!- Redeemer_2_ [~Redeemer_@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:09 -!- Redeemer_2_ [~Redeemer_@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:59 -!- klafka [~klafka@129.21.69.90] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:25 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-168-230.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:29 < gnusha> http://jan.krutisch.de/en/2010/04/20/the-shift-that-wasnt-meant-to-be.html 13:29 < gnusha> stalk: jan krutisch 13:30 < gnusha> licensing discussions happening over at adafruit.com http://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&p=76245 13:30 < gnusha> http://openchord.org/ 13:31 < gnusha> http://www.wopular.com/open-network-lab-japan-gets-%E2%80%9Cy-combinator%E2%80%9D-incubating-global-startups 13:31 < gnusha> http://article.wn.com/view/2010/04/07/Open_for_hackers/ 13:31 < gnusha> "The Last HOPE: Citizen Engineer - Consumer Electronics Hacking and Open 13:31 < gnusha> Source Hardware part 1 of 6. Speakers: Phillip Torrone, Limor Fried" 13:41 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:58 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-168-230.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:01 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 14:02 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:04 -!- superkuh [~hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:11 -!- anthony_ [~anthonyl@208-78-67-234-rangeroamerinc.clt.ord.sparkplugbb.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:12 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:16 -!- heath [~quassel@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:23 -!- ybit3 [~quassel@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:47 -!- egeste [~egeste@70.85.237.250] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 14:47 -!- egeste [~egeste@70.85.237.250] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:11 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-62-170.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:23 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 15:23 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:35 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:42 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 15:42 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:49 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-62-170.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:02 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 16:02 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:47 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - ????????????? ??????. ?????.] 16:47 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:04 -!- fenn [~fenn@adsl-75-37-26-239.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:05 < fenn> wah. 17:05 < Noahj> Hm? 17:09 < fenn> adl is down 17:11 < fenn> and heybryan.org 17:12 < fenn> so i have no decent remote shell 17:12 < fenn> i saw this on bioshock but i didnt think it was real: http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-03/shock-bullet 17:41 -!- fenn [~fenn@adsl-75-37-26-239.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:49 -!- fenn [~fenn@adsl-75-37-26-239.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:52 -!- fenn [~fenn@adsl-75-37-26-239.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:28 -!- egeste is now known as steve3 18:31 -!- steve3 is now known as egeste 18:33 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:1c77:5ff3:52c6:ef50] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:33 < JayDugger> Good evening. 18:36 < Noahj> Good evening... 18:38 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 18:39 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:43 -!- fenn [~fenn@dsl081-249-107.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:52 < JayDugger> Evening, fenn. 19:27 -!- ferrouswheel [~joel@121-98-81-17.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:28 -!- ferrouswheel [~joel@121-98-81-17.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:53 -!- avicenna [~avicenna@CPE001f5b002fd7-CM00407b859474.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:11 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@2001:0:53aa:64c:1c77:5ff3:52c6:ef50] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:16 -!- fygar [~quassel@c-76-113-76-175.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:17 -!- fygar [~quassel@c-76-113-76-175.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:29 -!- Aliks [~epicurean@76-14-163-117.wsac.wavecable.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:29 -!- Semikolon [~Semikolon@c-171ce055.438-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:30 -!- Aliks [~epicurean@76-14-163-117.wsac.wavecable.com] has quit [Client Quit] 21:49 -!- fenn [~fenn@dsl081-249-107.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:06 -!- fenn [~fenn@dsl081-249-107.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:49 -!- fenn [~fenn@dsl081-249-107.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:17 -!- ybit3 is now known as ybit 23:47 -!- fenn [~fenn@adsl-75-37-26-239.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:49 -!- fenn_ [~fenn@adsl-75-37-26-239.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:50 < fenn> hm 23:50 -!- fenn_ [~fenn@adsl-75-37-26-239.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has left #hplusroadmap [] 23:51 < fenn> deltabot made with arduino and rc servos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luq8MJjxXjU&feature=player_embedded 23:57 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap