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01:04 < fenn> coooool http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/04/tentacle_robot.html
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05:35 < hundred-ideas> anybody awake?
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06:17 < Utopiah> http://latexsearch.com/
06:18 < JayDugger> Oh, nifty!
06:52 < hundred-ideas> morning folks
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07:01 < gnusha> what is a "PERT" diagram and why would it be relevant to instruction generation?
07:02 < gnusha> fenn: tub should be back online now. leibniz breaks the network whenever i run /etc/init.d/networking start
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07:41 < gnusha> "(PhysOrg.com) -- An Italian inventor, Enrico Dini, chairman of the company Monolite UK Ltd, has developed a huge three-dimensional printer called D-Shape that can print entire buildings out of sand and an inorganic binder. The printer works by spraying a thin layer of sand followed by a layer of magnesium-based binder from hundreds of nozzles on its underside. The glue turns the sand to solid stone, which is built up layer by layer from the bottom up to form a sculpture, or a sandstone building. "
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07:59 < hundred-ideas> that sounds pretty awesome
08:06  * gnusha heads over to the austin hackerspace
08:06 < gnusha> 2pm to 3pm i'm doing a presentation at the automated design lab
08:06 < gnusha> does anyone have suggestions for what i should include? i'm going to give my latest spiells
08:06 < gnusha> but the topic isn't set in stone
08:06  * gnusha is definitely going to hit someone over the head about davinci being down all the time
08:11 < gnusha> "best of news.ycombinator.com" http://hackermonthly.com/
08:11 < gnusha> oh it doesn't actually exist yet
08:11 < gnusha> http://searchyc.com/
08:11 < gnusha> there we go
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09:07 < genehacker> 2-3 I have class
09:07 < genehacker> what are you presenting about?
09:09 < gnusha> i don't know yet
09:09 < gnusha> i'm sure it's exciting though!
09:26 < genehacker> what bolt sizes do you have on you gnusha, you are kanzure right?
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11:51 < genehacker> http://www.taxpayeraccess.org/issues/frpaa/frpaa_action/10-0416.shtml
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15:59 < kanzure> http://wiki.eth-0.nl/index.php/Eth0:2010_Summer_CFP a conference in the netherlands on biohacking, open source and hackerspaces
15:59 < kanzure> "DIY Biology and Return of the Citizen Scientist"
15:59 < kanzure> sounds like an episode of star wars
16:01 < kanzure> bah gridbeam is "a revolution in diy engineering" ? http://www.sas.org/tcs/weeklyIssues_2008/2008-09-05/bookreview/index.html
16:01 < kanzure> hm it cites whole earth review
16:01 < kanzure> whois: sheldon greaves
16:02 < kanzure> "and open source everything"
16:07  * bkero is a revolution in diy engineering.
16:08 < bkero> kanzure: You should secure travel, lodgings, and speaking times for everyone in this channel, as we're all DIY biology luminaries.
16:09 < kanzure> okay
16:09 < bkero> sweet
16:09 < kanzure> first i need to give fenn some money
16:09 < bkero> lol
16:09 < kanzure> well, paypal.com has been a bitch with me
16:09 < bkero> fenn: You should secure travel, lodgings, and speaking times for everyone in this channel, as we're all DIY biology luminaries.
16:09 < kanzure> nono that's not what i meant
16:09 < kanzure> i mean he requested something before you
16:10 < kanzure> and paypal.com still hasn't approved my money transfers to him or anything
16:10 < kanzure> blah
16:20 < jrayhawk> Perhaps you guys should be doing banking transfers like normal sane people?
16:20 < jrayhawk> Well, maybe not sane, but still more effective than paypal.
16:22 < kanzure> what is a "banking transfer"?
16:27 < kanzure> http://github.com/russss/hackspace-foundation-sites
16:27 < jrayhawk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automated_Clearing_House
16:27 < jrayhawk> Although things are much easier if you guys use the same bank.
16:29 < jrayhawk> Also wire transfers.
16:29 < kanzure> why do wire transfers make most people uneasy?
16:31 < jrayhawk> U.S. and many other banking systems are based on a horrible 'pull' model that means anyone with knowledge of a given routing and account number can take money out of that account.
16:32 < jrayhawk> Unauthorized pulls are refundable, but it's still a hassle for all involved.
16:32 < jrayhawk> Since most people don't understand how to erect secure communication channels or storage, the distribution of those numbers is risky.
16:34 < jrayhawk> The "unauthorized pulls are refundable" part is also a problem because it means any exchange can be reversed for up to some days (30? 60? don't remember) afterwards
16:34 < jrayhawk> Essentially both parties need to thoroughly trust eachother for it to work out.
16:34 < jrayhawk> I expect the both of you do, though.
16:37 < kanzure> i knew things were broken
16:37 < kanzure> but this is hilariously broken
16:37 < jrayhawk> Yeah. People with sane, nationalized banking systems laugh and laugh at us.
16:38 < jrayhawk> Nationalized banking systems also allow for the completely automated implementation of taxation.
16:40 < genehacker> so tax time isn't so hard in other countries?
16:40 < jrayhawk> In well-thought-out systems, it's a continuous and automated process.
16:43 < jrayhawk> All the above security concerns apply to checks, too, obviously, which is why online scamming is so damned easy.
16:46 < kanzure> fenn: matt is using hg for graphsynth now
16:46 < kanzure> i did a presentation at adl today
16:46 < kanzure> and he was saying "gee i'm starting to see how nice distributed revision control is"
16:46 < kanzure> >_<
16:48 < genehacker> your presentation was about:
16:48 < kanzure> automated design of microfluidic lab-on-a-chip systems
16:48 < kanzure> and statistical approximation of building topology from user-based wifi heatmaps of a building
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17:40 < kanzure> http://www.opensourcefood.com/
18:02 < kanzure> http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/21/igniting-a-brain-computer-interface-revolution-bci-x-prize/
18:08 < QuantumG> A typical prize development process takes 8-14 months to complete. 
18:08 < QuantumG> I'll be interested to see what they come up with
18:09 < kanzure> http://www.ecofriendlymag.com/sustainable-transporation-and-alternative-fuel/x-prize-foundation-aims-to-launch-100m-in-prizes-over-next-10-years-targeting-4-key-areas/
18:09 < kanzure> neurobiology, personalized medicine, healthcare advancement, physician augmentation/telemedicine
18:21 < kanzure> "
18:21 < kanzure> "Would this made sense to you? Would following this mean you would bring more cool tools and gadgets for all to use if you could mark them as a tool, meaning you wouldn't come in to find your line following robot was now a flame throwing attack droid!
18:21 < kanzure> My idea for the sticker is the blue circle with a white cutout of a hammer. Any other ideas?"
18:21 < kanzure> "So I was thinking, there is some stuff in the space that we shouldn't hack. Like the wifi robot tank. What are peoples thoughts on a small sticker you can put on things you donate/lend/the space buys, that denotes that some thing is a hacking tool."
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18:39 < kanzure> hundred-ideas: hey
18:40 < kanzure> hundred-ideas: the other guy on the project was thinking "project projector"
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18:40 < kanzure> or ppldj
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20:45 < genehacker> why the heck do you have to pay to get ISO and ASTM standards
20:50 < QuantumG> cause they're cunts
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22:31 < Aliks> yaaaawn
22:32 < QuantumG> I wonder if plasma can be used as a flywheel
22:33 < QuantumG> with magnetic bearings 
22:33 < QuantumG> instead of dumping or drawing momentum from a solid flywheel
22:33 < Aliks> strange idea
22:33 < Aliks> what for?
22:34 < QuantumG> satellite maneuvering
22:34 < QuantumG> or energy storage..
22:34 < QuantumG> might even be some interesting direct electric conversion advantages there
22:35 < QuantumG> http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/04/silk-brain-computer-interface/
22:35 < QuantumG> random
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