--- Day changed Sat Jun 12 2010 00:19 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279555684.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:24 -!- Noahj [~noah@68-116-199-177.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:38 -!- dustbin [~chatzilla@adsl-71-145-162-129.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401074458]] 00:41 -!- dustbin [~chatzilla@adsl-71-145-162-129.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:56 -!- wrldpc2 [~benny@c-98-249-20-217.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: wrldpc2] 01:00 -!- Roy78 [~Tiger@ip68-11-187-208.br.br.cox.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:44 -!- Roy78 [~Tiger@ip68-11-187-208.br.br.cox.net] has quit [] 01:48 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@12.147.121.194] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:49 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@12.147.121.194] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:58 < kanzure> fenn: there are ways to get around it fubaring everything 02:58 < kanzure> but it involves some manual sql'ing 03:01 < cluckj> @_@ 03:02 < cluckj> I'm not super happy they moved registration to 7am 03:03 < Trooem> you in boston kanzure? H+ meeting? 03:03 < Trooem> good luck with your presentation :) 03:03 < kanzure> http://www.me.utexas.edu/news/2010/0610_campbell_germany.php 03:03 < kanzure> cluckj: 7am? hmm 03:04 < kanzure> cluckj: are you walking, busing or parking? 03:04 < cluckj> taking a cab from the hotel, I think 03:05 < kanzure> which hotel 03:05 < cluckj> the holiday inn 03:05 < kanzure> how about you just ride with me. i'm in 722 03:05 < cluckj> hahaha 03:05 < cluckj> are you driving? 03:05 < kanzure> we'll probably be doing a public transportation gig 03:06 < kanzure> but we have a car if necessary 03:06 < cluckj> ah, ok 03:06 < cluckj> when are y'all leaving? 03:06 < kanzure> 6:30 was the goal 03:06 < cluckj> ah 03:06 < kanzure> do you have my number? give me a ring then.. 512 203 0507 03:07 < cluckj> which public transportation? 03:07 < kanzure> one sec 03:08 < cluckj> my friend and I looked at the bus schedule and the bus leaves at like.......right now 03:08 < kanzure> oh lovely 03:08 < cluckj> hehe 03:08 < cluckj> I need to take a shower, be back in a few minutes 03:09 < kanzure> there's one that leaves at 7:05 and arrives at 7:15 03:09 < cluckj> okay 03:10 < cluckj> did you do the check-in thing last night? 03:10 < kanzure> on bus 86 (the bus stop is at mrtyle) 03:10 < kanzure> nah, i was up and about too late 03:10 < kanzure> brb 03:10 < cluckj> that's right across the street, ya? 03:10 < cluckj> same 03:18 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:23 < cluckj> back 03:33 -!- Trooem [~fsdffasdf@S01060016b6ee2b72.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [] 03:47 < cluckj> okay I'm turning this off and heading downstairs 03:47 < cluckj> see you there kanzure, text or email me when you figure out the plans for getting there 03:48 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@12.147.121.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:01 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:17 < Yocttar> bah, I wanna know how venter synthesized DNA sooooo bad :< 05:29 -!- Cluckj [~Cluckj@m445a36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:30 < Cluckj> Hehehe 05:36 < kanzure> ok, at the conference :) 05:36 < kanzure> Cluckj: i didn't get a chance to figure out your number 05:36 < kanzure> ah got it in the other channel 05:37 < Cluckj> Hah, you moved over behind me 05:37 < Cluckj> I texted you earlier, I think 05:38 < Utopiah> http://www.livestream.com/humanityplus is a radio not a conf. talk :-# 05:38 < Cluckj> The talks haven't started, yet 05:39 < Utopiah> Cluckj: I know, the moment Ill stand up to gather food and coffe it'll start ;) 05:39 < Cluckj> It's starting now :) 05:39 < Yocttar> Have fun at the conference :) 05:40 < Cluckj> Yup 05:40 < kanzure> http://hplussummit.com/streaming.html 05:41 < kanzure> what's the twitter hashtag, anyway? 05:41 < Cluckj> #hplus 06:02 < Utopiah> lol, mentionning TBBT :P 06:03 < Cluckj> Yep...are you really that surprised? Hahaha 06:06 < Utopiah> no need to play at 2x speed... 06:07 < Cluckj> Hehe, is there going to be a recording of this anywhere? 06:08 < Utopiah> http://www.slideshare.net/humanityplus/controlling-brain-circuits-with-light-ed-boyden 06:09 < Cluckj> Is that just the slides, or a recording of the talk? I'm on my blackberry atm... 06:10 < Utopiah> slide 06:10 < Cluckj> Ah, thanks 06:29 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:46 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2010/ 06:47 < kanzure> you're welcome. 06:47 < Utopiah> :) 06:52 < Utopiah> http://hplussummit.com/elbakyan.html (can help to focus) 06:52 < Cluckj> There's a lot of frightening potential mind-control stuff being talked about... D: 06:52 < Utopiah> Cluckj: better learn to control yourself first then. 06:52 < kanzure> hope you guys like the transcripts 06:53 < Utopiah> kanzure: yes, and good luck for the current one :/ 06:53 < Cluckj> Haha, I noticed people were having trouble paying attention, too... 06:53 < Yocttar> cant get the stream >.< 06:53 < Cluckj> Oh you're transcribing? :) 06:53 < Yocttar> ah well 06:53 < Yocttar> hope to see this later 06:53 -!- marainein [~marainein@220-253-38-142.VIC.netspace.net.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 06:53 < Cluckj> My colleague will be happy to hear that 06:54 < Cluckj> Yep he is 06:55 < Cluckj> Thanks :D 07:03 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-66-68-104-134.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:29 < Utopiah> (few messy notes and links http://fabien.benetou.fr/Events/HplusSummitHarvard ) 07:36 < Cluckj> This talk is going to be sweet, I think 07:41 < Utopiah> that's a lot of info coming on, even if I (somehow) know a bit on each topic Ill probably need few extra days to digest it 07:44 < Cluckj> Yeah, I have 9 pages of fieldnotes already... 07:46 < Utopiah> is there a wiki for the event btw? 07:51 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:57 < Utopiah> how long will be the break? 08:01 < Cluckj> David orban said he'd tell us later...probably 20 minutes? 08:05 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:05 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Client Quit] 08:09 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:11 < kanzure> tweets: http://twitter.com/kanzure 08:11 < kanzure> Cluckj: yeah :) 08:11 < kanzure> transcribing 08:18 < kanzure> http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23hplus 08:34 < Utopiah> (starts again) 08:34 < genehacker> where's the streams? 08:34 < genehacker> located 08:35 < Utopiah> http://www.livestream.com/humanityplus 08:36 < Utopiah> there are local mirrors but dunno where 08:47 < Cluckj> A cliche? 09:03 -!- Noahj [~noah@68-116-199-177.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:05 < Cluckj> I am totally impressed with your typing skills :) 09:18 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2010/d1s11-john-smart.html 09:18 < kanzure> colloidal gold immunostaining on deplasticized ultra-thin sections 09:22 < ybit> Cluckj: he is impressive at transcribing 09:23 < kanzure> Cluckj: yeah i'm a "cliche" because i keep getting credited in all these talks.. 09:24 < kanzure> i'm not going to type ken's talk.. i shouldn't have done john's either 09:24 < kanzure> they are reading from a document 09:24 < kanzure> so they should just upload that 09:25 < kanzure> Memory Networks: Answering the Call of the Hippocampus 09:32 < Cluckj> That's not a cliche, that's credibility :) be happy about it 09:38 < genehacker> wait a second, so that plastination stuff might actually work for brain preservation? 09:40 < ybit> 'the science of the sticky' makes me giggle :) 09:41 < Cluckj> Hehehe 09:46 < ybit> seemingly the spikerbox is open source, where are its design files? 09:56 < ybit> serious games? 09:56 < ybit> kanzure: get other people to take notes for the ones you aren't at ;) 10:13 < genehacker> no seriously 10:13 < genehacker> you should 10:13 < genehacker> supposedly you're the source for hplus transcripts 10:14 < genehacker> you should really put google ads on those pages 10:19 < genehacker> so if lightman really wants citizen scientists 10:19 < genehacker> he needs to solve the publishing problem 10:19 < genehacker> getting information out is free 10:20 < genehacker> but getting people to review it is not 10:20 < genehacker> it cost ~$2000 to publish a paper in a major journal 10:21 < genehacker> even more so in open journals 11:17 < Utopiah> (nice, going faster, 10min left) 11:20 < fenn> anyone know how to play ustream in mplayer? 11:28 * Utopiah hates time travel talks from Seth Lloyd that always give him deja-vue feeling 11:29 < Yocttar> get vlc 11:29 < Yocttar> ! 11:31 < fenn> does vlc work? i can't even figure out the .flv url 11:40 -!- Noahj [~noah@c-24-62-35-233.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:45 -!- strages [~strages@c-76-29-243-225.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:45 < fenn> cool.. now i just need to get a quantum computer >:( 11:50 -!- strages [~strages@c-76-29-243-225.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:51 -!- egeste_ [~egeste@li147-96.members.linode.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:52 -!- egeste [~egeste@70.85.237.250] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:52 < fenn> i would make a snarky comment about making sure the projector connection works beforehand, but this exact thing has happened to me even after trying it first 11:52 -!- egeste_ is now known as egeste 11:53 < Cluckj> Haha 11:54 < Cluckj> Blame it on windows :) 11:55 < kanzure> fenn: mac is alot like matt, in a weird way 11:57 < Cluckj> Has mac gotten here, yet? 12:01 < kanzure> he's sitting next to me 12:01 < kanzure> i'm outside 12:01 < kanzure> outside the conference room, i mean 12:02 < Cluckj> Oh, haha, I saw you there, but my buddy wanted to go back to the conference 12:02 < Cluckj> I didn't pay attention to who else was there :x 12:15 < ybit> so wolphram gets more time to talk than any other speaker because...? 12:16 < Utopiah> :| 12:16 < ybit> fenn: gl w/ ustream sir 12:16 < ybit> fenn: if you get it working, lemme know 12:17 < Utopiah> when he said "let's start with" I wa slike wtf... 12:21 < ybit> now he's repeating himself dammit 12:23 < ybit> kanzure: will you thow something at this guy? 12:23 < fenn> throw something if you're not a lump 12:23 < ybit> something that will knock him out 12:24 < fenn> heheh 'scientist killed by falling computronium' 12:24 < ybit> n_n 12:25 < ybit> here's an idea, the next h+ conference streamed on the h+ website with this irc channel on the side of the vid... 12:25 < fenn> i think you can actually pick which irc channel to use, no? 12:26 < ybit> these streaming vids always have private channels right beside them 12:26 < ybit> unless you are streaming the vid using mplayer?... 12:27 < ybit> i.e. did you successfully stream the vid? 12:30 < Utopiah> will Wolfram finish the 2 days conf? 12:31 < fenn> no i'm using chrome 12:31 < fenn> hm so is he going to talk for a whole hour? 12:31 < fenn> i thought that was an error on the schedule but perhaps not 12:31 < ybit> srsly wtf 12:31 < ybit> oh 12:34 < ybit> bbl, going to get some groceris 12:34 < ybit> groceries* 12:34 * ybit hopes wolfram is through by the time he gets back... 12:36 < Utopiah> do you think Wolfran is trying an DOS on Kanzure's hands? 12:53 < genehacker> he's stephen wolfram 12:53 < genehacker> that's why 12:55 < kanzure> i'm ignoring stephen's talk 12:56 < genehacker> you didn't miss much 12:56 < genehacker> it's interesting that he essentially farms algorithms for mathematica 12:56 < genehacker> just brute force out the best way to evaluate them 12:57 < genehacker> I hope some of what he says isn't true though 13:05 < kanzure> recommendation from todd: http://face.com/ 13:05 < kanzure> a company todd is on the board for: http://www.sofcoast.com/weblog/asap-xp.html 13:05 < kanzure> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/13/health/research/13genome.html?hp 13:05 < kanzure> http://www.cscs.umich.edu/~crshalizi/reviews/wolfram/ 13:05 < kanzure> todd really recommends livescribe for some reason http://www.livescribe.com/ 13:07 < genehacker> oooooh inflatable wing 13:08 < genehacker> I've really wanted to build a solar thermal hybrid airship 13:27 -!- thesnark [~thesnark@ne100222.ni.utoledo.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:27 < thesnark> Hi all 13:27 < kanzure> hi thesnark 13:27 < thesnark> Any news for promise pyramid? 13:28 < kanzure> have you been following the #hplus twitter stream? 13:28 < thesnark> No sir 13:28 < kanzure> i'm kind of preoccupied all day today at h+ summit / harvard 13:28 < genehacker> have talks resumed yet? 13:28 < kanzure> mackenzie cowell really likes promise pyramid 13:28 < thesnark> o rly 13:28 < thesnark> Are you speaking at Harvard then? 13:28 < thesnark> That's kinda funny. 13:28 < kanzure> yeah, tomorrow at 3:10pm EDT 13:28 < thesnark> Video stream available? 13:28 < thesnark> of Harvard talk? 13:28 < kanzure> i've been taking transcripts: https://twitter.com/kanzure 13:29 < kanzure> yeah, http://hplussummit.com/streaming.html 13:29 < thesnark> Alright cool I'll watch that one just because its you at Harvard =P 13:29 < thesnark> When are you speaking at the summit today? 13:29 < kanzure> also https://twitter.com/#search?q=%23hplus 13:30 < kanzure> my talk is tomorrow at 3:10pm EDT (or whatever Boston time is) 13:30 < thesnark> oh lol same place/thing 13:30 < thesnark> It's interesting that Harvard is hosting 13:30 < kanzure> :) 13:30 < kanzure> anyway, read my transcripts fool 13:30 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2010/ 13:30 < thesnark> I'll do it now! 13:31 < kanzure> some of them aren't good- the more clear the speaker is, the easier it is for me to do a transcript 13:31 < Utopiah> automatically gives credibility 13:32 < thesnark> "Microphone, oops." 13:32 < thesnark> haha 13:37 < Cluckj> This dude is intense as hell 13:39 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:41 < kanzure> Cluckj: which dude? 13:41 < kanzure> i should be charging hplus summit $1/word that i type 13:42 < Cluckj> He's making a pretty weird argument, based on the idea that disciplines are fixed 13:42 < kanzure> i've done like $16k worth of typing :P 13:42 < Cluckj> The one talking about education 13:42 < Cluckj> Hahaha, good luck 13:44 < genehacker> kanzure just put ads on those pages 13:44 -!- uniqanomaly__ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-80-134.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:45 < Cluckj> Hehe, yes 13:45 < ybit> hi uniqanomaly__ 13:45 < kanzure> hi uniqanomaly__ 13:45 < uniqanomaly__> hi there 13:52 < Cluckj> Isn't this what plato was talking about? 13:54 < uniqanomaly__> kanzure, your bookmarks remind me Synergetics by Buckminster Fuller ;)) /http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/toc/toc.html/ 13:54 < uniqanomaly__> check out thebrain.com ;) 13:55 -!- thesnark [~thesnark@ne100222.ni.utoledo.edu] has quit [Quit: Java user signed off] 13:56 < Utopiah> no http:// = no clickable :( 13:56 < uniqanomaly__> http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/toc/toc.html 13:56 < uniqanomaly__> i added ' 13:56 < uniqanomaly__> '/' 13:56 < uniqanomaly__> dunno what for actually 13:56 < uniqanomaly__> ;P 13:57 < uniqanomaly__> ekm 13:57 < uniqanomaly__> ... 13:57 < uniqanomaly__> ;P 13:57 < Utopiah> breathe 13:57 < uniqanomaly__> second one's not so long you know 13:57 < uniqanomaly__> i do 13:57 < uniqanomaly__> i really really do 13:58 < uniqanomaly__> ;) 13:58 < genehacker> oh do we actually have some people spill over from the live stream 13:58 < genehacker> LIVESTREAM ERROR! LIVESTREAM ERROR 13:58 < genehacker> noooooo 14:01 < fenn> REDUNDANT INFORMATION 14:02 < fenn> kanzure: i randomly ran into a livescribe hacker in mountain view yesterday 14:02 < kanzure> how did it go? 14:02 < fenn> he's pretty cool, we talked about wearables and techshop vs hackerspaces etc 14:04 < ybit> kanzure get a round of aplause without speaking? :D 14:04 < fenn> heh kanzure did you just get props? 14:04 < ybit> gets* 14:04 < Cluckj> He got mad props 14:05 < genehacker> where? 14:05 < genehacker> did I just miss that 14:05 < fenn> we really ought to have google voice running in semi-real time transcribing everything 14:05 < Cluckj> In the conference room 14:05 < fenn> EVERYWHERE :P 14:06 < Cluckj> Yeah pretty much... 14:07 < fenn> supposedly it's too computationally expensive to just do everything, but i have my doubts 14:07 < fenn> also i just calculated on the train today the cost of recording all audio as mp3 24/7 14:07 < fenn> it's like $0.10/day 14:07 < kanzure> where'd i get props? i'm not listening to the talk 14:07 < Cluckj> Hehe 14:08 < fenn> from darlene cavalier 14:08 < kanzure> i don't even know him 14:08 < kanzure> can someone explain? 14:08 < fenn> it's the chick talking right now about citizen science 14:08 < genehacker> fenn where is much of the cost in that? 14:08 < kanzure> it's a chick? 14:08 < Cluckj> Oh, the whole room applauded you for doing the transcription, at the speaker's dropping some love 14:08 < kanzure> fuck 14:08 < kanzure> i'm not doing a transcript of her talk though 14:08 < fenn> genehacker: i'm just talking about cost per gigabyte of a laptop hard drive 14:08 < Cluckj> Hahahahahah 14:08 < kanzure> >_< fuuuck 14:09 < fenn> rofl 14:09 < Cluckj> "The chick" 14:09 < genehacker> fenn you can cheat and store it in loads of gmail acounts 14:09 < genehacker> just like some worms are doing for "cloud storage" 14:09 < fenn> Cluckj: well, she was a cheerleader.. i think that counts 14:09 < kanzure> should i go in and do a partial transcript? what do i doo 14:09 < Cluckj> I think you mean doctor chick 14:09 < kanzure> oh, she's the cheerleader science website thing 14:09 < Cluckj> Yeah 14:09 < genehacker> kanzure are you not logging that talk? 14:10 < kanzure> no, i'm outside giving my poor arms a rest.. 14:10 < fenn> rest is for the weak! 14:10 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:10 < kanzure> i find your lack of faith disturbing *force choke* 14:10 < Cluckj> Hahaha 14:11 < genehacker> you could just splice in some bumble muscle genes and never get tired again 14:11 < genehacker> hopefully 14:11 < kanzure> if i get one more shoutout i'm going to turn into a god damn cliche 14:11 < Cluckj> Crap I have to go talk to her 14:11 < genehacker> you almost are 14:11 < Cluckj> You mean a LEGEND 14:11 < fenn> yeah just go say hello and sorry and shake her hand 14:11 < kanzure> public apology? 14:11 < fenn> er, it's not necessarily public if you're just talking face to face 14:11 < Cluckj> Nah, her project is like mine 14:12 < kanzure> kk got it 14:12 < kanzure> thanks external social tact applicator unit! <3 14:13 < Cluckj> I wasn't talking about doing this for you, do your own dirty work!!! 14:13 < fenn> grah learn english fuckers 14:13 < Cluckj> Fu 14:13 < kanzure> Cluckj: no it was an inside joke 14:14 < kanzure> er, it's in the logs i guess 14:14 < kanzure> can someone paste the relevant excerpt 14:14 < Cluckj> Haha, thanks 14:16 < fenn> wasnt osho some batshit cult that poisoned random salad bars with salmonella? 14:16 < Cluckj> Osha? 14:17 -!- randallagordon_ [~randallag@c-71-59-167-112.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:17 < Cluckj> This irc/irl thing is tripping me out 14:17 < fenn> hmm i guess there's a bit of lag on the ustream, probably confusing 14:17 < Cluckj> I'm not in the lecture hall anymore 14:18 < kanzure> fenn: i'm about to go to dinner with Ian_Daniher 14:18 < fenn> what's the geometry of the location like? i have basically no concept of it 14:18 < kanzure> any things i should bring up? he's doing basically waht john english is doing.. so just assume they are the same person 14:18 < kanzure> s/john english/lepton/ 14:18 -!- Selar [~selar@www.elzemeyer.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:19 < kanzure> fenn: there's a gaint auditorium, and then it's a wide-open building outside (typical academic thing i guess) where we're sitting around with tables 14:19 < kanzure> Selar: hello :) 14:19 < Selar> kanzure: Thanks for transcribing! 14:19 < kanzure> it's fun! 14:19 < Selar> (<- @ghchinoy twitter) 14:19 < kanzure> also probably giving me cancer 14:19 < kanzure> but mostly fun! 14:19 < Selar> Ha 14:19 < Selar> That's great 14:19 < kanzure> btw i did transcripts for last year as well: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2009/ 14:20 < fenn> btwbtw it's not a yearly event, your url schema is due to break down in 6 months 14:20 < Selar> That's awesome. What do you do that you get to go to these great gatherings? :) 14:20 < kanzure> oh noes 14:20 < Cluckj> There's probably someone here that could cure you of that cancer 14:20 < kanzure> hplus-summit-2010-boston? 14:20 < fenn> i guess you could just put everything in the same directory 14:20 < kanzure> Selar: i just do stuff i guess 14:21 < Selar> Something like that, or rest-y /hplus-summit/2009/boston 14:21 < kanzure> woo REST 14:21 * fenn twitches 14:21 < fenn> <- supposed to be doing django tutorial right now 14:22 -!- randallagordon [~randallag@c-71-59-167-112.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:23 < fenn> sorry i dont know enough about Ian_Daniher, he probably isnt doing raw camera sensor interfacing 14:23 < kanzure> fenn: you should look at create_object and update_object for automatically generated views for the main website (kinda like django-admin stuff) 14:23 < kanzure> fenn: that's true, but he's doing an engineering consulting firm startup.. thing. 14:23 < ybit> "google voice running in semi-real time transcribing everything", hehe, i have the funniest messages that come from that service :) 14:23 * Selar has to run 14:23 < Selar> irl guests :\ 14:23 < kanzure> thanks for dropping in Selar 14:23 < Selar> I'll probably idle ;) 14:23 < fenn> itamara's talk looks interesting 14:23 < kanzure> good 14:23 < fenn> next person 14:23 < kanzure> hrm 14:23 < fenn> er, right now i mean 14:24 < kanzure> i don't think i can do it, not today 14:24 < fenn> ok have fun 14:24 < fenn> i just meant to watch 14:24 < ybit> this guy lives relatively close to me.. 14:25 < kanzure> sprout's where it's really going to get interesting.. 14:25 < kanzure> we were planning for 50 people (but have capacity for maybe 30 or 40) and i think at least 100 will show up 14:25 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279558942.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:25 < kanzure> hi Alystair 14:25 < Alystair> ave 14:25 < fenn> do you have a camera yet? 14:25 < kanzure> yeah i have a camera 14:26 < kanzure> took lots of photos 14:26 < fenn> plz take some pictures of sprout 14:26 < kanzure> hackerspacial espionage 14:27 < fenn> reconnaissance. espionage is such an ugly word 14:27 < kanzure> i see, i see 14:27 < fenn> "strategic intelligence" is the common euphamism 14:28 < fenn> irc is bad for my spelling 14:28 < genehacker> sprout is doing diybio right? 14:28 < kanzure> not to my knowledge 14:30 < fenn> mac cowell hangs out there a lot/lives nearby, that's probably where you got the idea 14:31 < kanzure> nah, mac was the one who arranged sprout specifically 14:31 < genehacker> I am confused 14:31 < genehacker> I thought sprout was doing that 14:35 < fenn> i mean "got the idea that sprout did diybio" 14:38 -!- randallagordon [~randallag@c-71-59-167-112.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39 < Cluckj> Hehe, sprout kinda "hosts" diy bio 14:39 < Cluckj> But it's going to be crazy later 14:45 -!- randallagordon [~randallag@c-71-59-167-112.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:48 < ybit> fenn: what was last year's example? 14:48 < ybit> i thought it was fetching a stick.. 14:48 < Cluckj> Mac should talk to the citizen science person 14:48 < ybit> was it the ball example? 14:48 < fenn> i think it was the same thing 14:48 < ybit> yah, i think so too 14:49 < Cluckj> Did he leave the conference? 14:51 < Cluckj> I'll see if I can get her to go to h+beer 14:54 < ybit> afk for awhile 15:02 < fenn> enjoy your free beer 15:03 < Cluckj> Oh shit, there are a LOT of people talking about the party 15:03 < genehacker> fenn didn't you say that makerbot used some money from reprap foundation? 15:03 < fenn> it was posted on the blackboard/announced 15:04 < fenn> genehacker: they basically made off with all the inventory of the rrrf 15:04 < fenn> at least that's my understanding, which may be incorrect 15:04 < genehacker> isn't that theft? 15:04 < genehacker> rrrf didn't really have much in inventory though 15:05 < genehacker> I think their prices were better though 15:05 < genehacker> h+ talks over for the day? 15:05 < fenn> yep 15:06 < genehacker> back to CAD work... 15:06 < fenn> wat you making? 15:06 < genehacker> nothing much 15:07 < fenn> suspicious 15:07 < genehacker> just a space robot 15:08 < genehacker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E0ot9iJm_k 15:08 < genehacker> crap 15:08 < genehacker> bad video 15:08 < fenn> an astro chicken? 15:08 < genehacker> http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/terriblesecret 15:08 < genehacker> actually a test specimen 15:09 < genehacker> or a file that I can manipulate into a test specimen when I get some parameters from a grad student's optimization algorithm 15:10 < fenn> "It was based on an ICQ chatlog where Lowtax from Something Awful convinced some guy he had been killed by his homemade robot. " 15:10 < genehacker> do you have stairs in your house? 15:10 < fenn> house? what is that? 15:10 < genehacker> ok good 15:11 < fenn> my part-time warehome has a sort of slanty ladder 15:11 < genehacker> if anyone ever answers yes to that question and they answer I have been protected 15:12 < genehacker> they're a goon 15:12 < genehacker> a high level internet troll 15:12 < genehacker> I think 15:13 < fenn> thanks for the secret handshake lore 15:13 < fenn> now tell me how i get out of a speeding ticket 15:16 < genehacker> gunn diode 15:17 < genehacker> nifty little device for generating RF 15:18 < genehacker> you won't ever get a speeding ticket, but you'll run into trouble with the FCC 15:21 < fenn> they use lasers now 15:24 < genehacker> you can own a laser jammer in most states 15:27 < fenn> i guess the lasers actually use RF modulation so you could still use a gunn diode in there somewhere if you wanted 15:28 < genehacker> you wouldn't want to 15:31 < fenn> yep that was a terrible video 16:15 -!- splicer [~patrik@h68n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:19 < fenn> hehe "Mount Cyanide" -> Mount Sinai 16:20 -!- Cluckj [~Cluckj@m445a36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:24 < fenn> "the largest community that opposes gay marriage, are black people." 16:29 < fenn> "Young white suburban males are the largest consumer of hip-hop music. So performance of Black masculinity (or Black sexuality as a whole) is created by white men for white men." 16:31 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-66-68-104-134.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:43 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-66-68-104-134.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:58 -!- Cluckj [~Cluckj@m3c5a36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:18 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:36 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:38 < fenn> i love the fact that there's a tracy lords quote at the bottom of this page http://web.mst.edu/~bala/ 18:12 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:21 -!- heath [~quassel@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:22 -!- ybit [~quassel@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:23 < fenn> 'A few years ago, I was sitting at a table with Jose Cordeiro and with a very important thought leader of the Islamic 18:23 < fenn> world, right in the central intelligent mainstream of Middle Eastern culture. Jose presented the transhumanist view, 18:23 < fenn> and asked us all what we thought.' 18:24 < fenn> 'The Islamic guy basically said: "This is the most compact and pure expression of pure evil I have heard. It is exactly what we are trying to fight."' 18:26 < uniqanomaly__> idea to kill all the heterodoxes may not be so bad after all 18:26 < uniqanomaly__> ;) 18:26 < uniqanomaly__> just a thought 18:28 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-66-68-104-134.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:35 < fenn> uniqanomaly__: did you just say you want to kill everyone in this channel? 18:36 < fenn> um, i guess what i'm asking is what did you mean 18:36 < uniqanomaly__> sorry, not precise enough 18:36 < uniqanomaly__> i was thinking about transhuman POV 18:36 < fenn> well, there's nothing even close to a transhuman orthodoxy 18:37 < uniqanomaly__> yeah 18:37 < fenn> we cant even agree on what the word means :\ 18:38 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-66-68-104-134.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:47 < fenn> holy crap, paul werbos invented backpropagation? 18:54 < fenn> hmm maybe not, wonder who put that on wikipedia 18:55 < fenn> ugh why are there so many neural network libraries written in java 18:56 < fenn> "oo look a ginormously parallel number crunching algorithm, let's do it on a VM!" 19:15 < kanzure> *ugh* 19:16 < kanzure> fenn: lowtax is notorious on somethingawful 19:16 < kanzure> jrayhawk: can you fill fenn in on it? in like a few sentences 19:17 < kanzure> mac cowell and todd huffman came up with the h+ secret handshake.. it's basically mac running around the auditorium and simulating an LHC explosion with todd at the end 19:17 < kanzure> haha "Mount Cyanide" 19:20 < fenn> yes i know who lowtax is 19:20 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 19:24 < Yocttar> loved the conference :D 19:29 < kanzure> :) me too 19:31 < kanzure> poor alec 19:31 < kanzure> we completely flooded sprout 19:33 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2010/photos/ 19:33 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2010/photos/dscn1686.jpg guess who? 19:33 < kanzure> fuck they have name tags 19:33 < kanzure> heh i like how todd's randomly in the background 19:34 < kanzure> cooler group shot: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2010/photos/dscn1687.jpg 19:36 < kanzure> i also like the random bridgeport behind everyone in the sprout shots 19:44 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:46 < fenn> well that was weird.. a series of familiar names leads to chris rasch's blog with posting of warehome room for rent in mountain view. turns out "right next door to the dojo" is really right next door 19:46 < fenn> so i might be moving into the same building 19:48 < fenn> hey i know everybody in that photo 19:50 < kanzure> *everybody* yeah i know the feeling 19:51 < fenn> never seen a photo of paul fernhout before though 19:53 < kanzure> paul is sitting next to me at the moment 19:53 < kanzure> maybe i can convince him to use irc 19:54 < fenn> good luck 19:54 < fenn> maybe you can convince him to use python :P 19:54 < kanzure> he uses jython 19:54 < kanzure> close enough? 19:54 < fenn> oh, well, i forget which one is which 19:54 < kanzure> http://fabien.benetou.fr/Events/HplusSummitHarvard 19:55 < fenn> operators are standing by 19:55 < kanzure> ? 19:56 < fenn> well this is useful info: utopiah: as soon as I put a link on Twitter with a trendy tag, bots from search engines come parse it, instantly. 19:56 < fenn> search engines used to have a submission form for links 20:12 < kanzure> good night channel 20:27 < jrayhawk> lowtax was supposed to give me a bottle of lysol but he never did :mad: 20:30 < Cluckj> Night kanzure 20:33 < fenn> "the totalitarian buddhist who finally beat sim city" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ezZgAl6aN8&feature=player_embedded 20:34 < fenn> "micromanagement for absolute perfection" 20:37 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@12.147.121.194] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:37 < fenn> 'Many people say, "Oh, it's just a game!" But they are mistaken.' 20:38 < jrayhawk> they are mistaken AND MUST BE MICROMANAGED 20:38 < jrayhawk> EVERYONE IS MISTAKEN 20:46 < fenn> gah 20:46 < fenn> ratha grimes appears again 20:47 < fenn> i guess i shouldnt be surprised 20:50 < jcluck> ? 20:51 < fenn> arrrg 20:51 < fenn> matt bell stole my tentacle porn idea, and i never even told anybody! 20:54 < jrayhawk> I, uh, think you might be a little late to the party with this "tentacle porn" idea of yours... 20:55 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:05 < Alystair> tip of the day: never keep your windows open during a sandstorm 21:11 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:11 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:18 < fenn> matt bell's blog is pretty awesome: http://nasu-dengaku.livejournal.com/ 21:27 -!- r1776 [~LOL@li48-79.members.linode.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:31 < jrayhawk> the laser cut wood pieces are amazing 21:58 -!- Cluckj [~Cluckj@m3c5a36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:00 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:05 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-66-68-104-134.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:09 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-66-68-104-134.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:17 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:23 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone. 22:34 < heath> moin JayDugger 23:47 < fenn> i had never really looked at my google web history.. it's a pretty badass invention 23:50 < fenn> now i just need to hook this into a conversational-context-sniffing video wallpaper unit