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06:21 < JayDugger> Good morning, Kanzure.
06:22 < kanzure> uh.. blender tutorial on modeling a bearing :/ http://www.rab3d.com/tutorial.html
06:22 < kanzure> i guess they wanted to use the bearing in a non-engineering context :P
06:22 < JayDugger> In Blender?
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06:29 < kanzure> yes in blender
06:30 < JayDugger> How odd.
06:31 < kanzure> "If your intent is to hide what you're doing from your LAN/ISP, there is a snag with Firefox. It will leak DNS requests locally unless you go to about:config and set "network.proxy.socks_remote_dns" to "true"" <-- strange
06:32 < JayDugger> Okay...so what does that parameter do?
06:33 < JayDugger> I get the idea of a DNS request, but what does the verb "leak" mean in this context?
06:34 < augur> hello h-plus-onauts
06:34 < JayDugger> Hello, augur.
06:34 < augur> anyone remember The Brain on KurzweilAI.net?
06:34 < JayDugger> Yes.
06:35 < augur> shame its gone, ey?
06:35 < JayDugger> http://www.thebrain.com/
06:35 < augur> the program is available, sure
06:35 < augur> but i mean Kurzweil's Brain
06:35 < JayDugger> Oh, the site index?
06:35 < augur> i suppose you could use it like that
06:36 < kanzure> "as any ol' nekbeard will tell you, you suck."
06:36 < JayDugger> Eh?
06:36 < augur> well, ever since Kurzweil's Brain went dark, ive been looking for a way to get it back
06:36 < kanzure> i think that neckbeard joke only makes sense if i say something about linux afterwards
06:37 < JayDugger> Nope. Still opaque.
06:37 < augur> so, JayDugger, ive completed that mission this morning.
06:37 < kanzure> augur: can you show me what you're talking about? maybe linking to web.archive.org?
06:37 < augur> kanzure: http://betty.kurzweilai.net/brain/frame.html?startThought=Artificial%20Intelligence%20(AI)
06:37 < JayDugger> I've had ample coffee today, so not on my end.
06:37 < augur> the java app is still operational
06:37 < augur> but the links are pointed to the wrong place
06:37 < augur> they ned to hit the subdomain betty not www
06:37 < augur> but the java source file hasnt been updated
06:39 < augur> i could actually tell you precisely the change that needs to be made for it to work again, too
06:39 < augur> but thats ok, because i have an archive of it now :)
06:40 < JayDugger> Nice bit of software archeology, augur.
06:41 < augur> :)
06:41 < augur> http://wellnowwhat.net/brain_archive/ai_entry.html
06:42 < augur> incase you want to actually navigate it
06:42 < kanzure> augur: you could just modify the bytecode i guess
06:42 < augur> i tried that
06:42 < kanzure> unless they are signed?
06:42 < augur> but i cant run the applet locally
06:42 < kanzure> why not?
06:42 < augur> something with java permissions
06:42 < augur> it cant open local files or whatever
06:42 < kanzure> you could try embedding it in a .html file locally i guess
06:42 < augur> i did that
06:42 < kanzure> oh. hrm.
06:42 < augur> yeah
06:43 < augur> if i could get it to work, i would stick it up on the archive in place of what i have
06:43 < augur> but i think this way is probably better, since it doesnt require java
06:45 < augur> i emailed the new site's webmaster and info peeps
06:45 < augur> and i posted on the new forums
06:45 < augur> nothing
06:45 < augur> so i figured, fuck it.
06:45 < augur> its mine now.
06:46 < JayDugger> Heh...if Bezos, Bigelow, Musk, and Rutan can pick where NASA left off, you can do the same. :)
06:47 < augur> well, im technically violating copyright
06:47 < JayDugger> Yup. You'll eat hot coals in hell for that.
06:47 < augur> ;)
06:48 < augur> its such a shame that they got rid of it from the main site tho
06:49 < augur> its such a cool little organization of ideas and information
06:49 < augur> i was reminded of it i think by way of james burke earlier
06:49 < augur> oh but the trouble i went through to get this thing working
06:49 < augur> i eventually found the database file, right
06:50 < augur> but it was almost entirely garbage
06:50 < augur> with the exception of some readable URLs and stuff here and there
06:50 < kanzure> what's the database format?
06:50 < augur> i was going to try and manually decode it, playing cryptosleuth but
06:50 < augur> the db format is unknown
06:51 < kanzure> did you try running it through 'file'?
06:51 < augur> the file is .jbc
06:51 < augur> no, whats file
06:51 < kanzure> 'file' is a magic little utility on linux that tries to figure out filetypes for you
06:51 < augur> eventually what i did was i inspected the java source and re-engineered the program's db loader
06:52 < augur> once i got that pulled apart, and once i identified the items that were the various parts of the organization, it was simple enough to reencode the DB in a more readily processable file
06:53 < augur> this case, as a text representation of a ruby hash object, indexing the db by article id, title, and url
06:53 < kanzure> this is all lame, can't you just drop links?
06:53 < kanzure> like to the actual .jbc file
06:53 < augur> if you want
06:53 < augur> im just recounting my travails
06:54 < augur> http://wellnowwhat.net/transfers/garbage
06:54 < kanzure> huh? i thought we were talking about kurzweilai.net
06:54 < augur> you cant find it directly on the kurzweilai.net site
06:54 < kanzure> yes but surely the file is hosted there
06:54 < augur> you'd have to download the zipped version of the file
06:55 < augur> then unzip it
06:55 < augur> the result is that
06:55 < augur> so here it is raw
06:55 < kanzure> um..
06:56 < augur> um what
06:56 < kanzure> we can handle zip files :)
06:56 < kanzure> so don't worry.. just give the actual links
06:56 < augur> im not going to go try to find a zipped version of the file that i just gave you
06:56 < augur> its the same thing
06:57 < kanzure> uhuh
06:57 < JayDugger> Time to run errands; good morning, all.
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06:57 < augur> you're an odd one, kanzure
06:57 < kanzure> and you could be making shit up
06:57 < augur> ..
06:58 < augur> im.. making up that this is the data file from kurzweilai.net?
06:58 < kanzure> it's just one link, it's not that hard 
06:58 < kanzure> well, maybe more than one i guess
06:58 < augur> and magically i recreated the whole structure of their database?
06:58 < kanzure> you could be claiming it is their database
06:58 < augur> what would the purpose of that be, exactly?
06:58 < kanzure> when you say that you have a file you found on their servers, you usually should drop the link
06:59 < kanzure> to their server, not yours :P
06:59 < augur> here: http://betty.kurzweilai.net/brain/kain_www.zip
06:59  * kanzure looks
06:59 < augur> you're a weirdo
07:00 < kanzure> "natrificial" eh?
07:00 < Utopiah> hmmm brainzzz
07:00 < augur> ask the Brain people
07:01 < augur> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=NATRIFICIAL&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
07:01 < kanzure> and the subdomain that works is betty, not www
07:02 < augur> i know that
07:02 < augur> they archived the whole website to the betty subdomain
07:02 < augur> as i said a long time ago
07:02 < augur> the problem is that the links in the db file (which you can plainly see) are pointing to the www subdomain
07:02 < kanzure> augur: that was more like a question, sorry
07:02 < kanzure> they have a weird redirect thing going on.. http://betty.kurzweilai.net/brain/frame.html?main=/brain/html/case_based_reasoning_entry.html?
07:03 < augur> yes
07:03 < kanzure> and the frame redireted version doesn't seem to display the content
07:03 < augur> yes
07:03 < kanzure> *redirected
07:03 < augur> the frame itself forces you to view the whole Brain UI
07:03 < kanzure> but the non-redirected-version seems to be ok
07:03 < kanzure> anyway, /that's/ weird
07:03 < kanzure> ah
07:03 < kanzure> well frames are generally fishy anyway :P
07:03 < augur> but the brain UI isnt working because its using urls from the DB file
07:03 < augur> and the DB file has all www subdomains not betty
07:03 < augur> because they didnt update its URLs
07:04 < kanzure> and you don't actually care about the java ui stuff right?
07:04 < augur> well, i'd like to have it, but its less important than the actual content
07:04 < augur> if i wanted, i could recreate the UI in javascript
07:04 < augur> using canvas
07:04 < augur> its simple enough
07:05 < kanzure> k.. if you wanted to get really ridiculously crazy you could put something in /etc/hosts for betty.kurzweilai.net and write a small proxy server that (importantly) serves up a modified version of the .zip with correct urls
07:05 < augur> for my computer, sure
07:05 < augur> but not for everyone!
07:05 < kanzure> also for some reason i just assumed you're using linux or something like it
07:06 < augur> mac
07:06 < augur> so its got all the same things
07:06 < kanzure> osx?
07:06 < kanzure> ok
07:06 < augur> yes
07:06 < augur> the html UI is good enough tho
07:07 < augur> probably better, overall
07:07 < augur> because it doesnt require java or javascript
07:07 < augur> its just hardcoded html
07:07 < kanzure> and this is a full scrape? http://wellnowwhat.net/brain_archive/ai_entry.html
07:07 < augur> its a full scrape of the Brian entries
07:07 < augur> with appropriate modifications to make it work
07:08 < kanzure> oops i guess i mean http://wellnowwhat.net/brain_archive/
07:08 < kanzure> ok
07:08 < kanzure> cool :)
07:08 < augur> links inside the articles all direct to the betty site
07:08 < augur> so they all work appropriately
07:08 < augur> including the sponsor links
07:08 < augur> :P
07:12 < augur> im just really glad to have this thing again
07:12 < augur> its what got me into linguistics, in a way
07:13 < kanzure> story time!
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07:13 < kanzure> oh i guess not
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07:15 < augur> story huh
07:15 < augur> you wants a story?
07:15  * kanzure nods
07:15 < augur> of me and linguistics?
07:16 < kanzure> no, of you and kurzweilai.net "the brain" and linguistics :P
07:16 < augur> :p
07:16 < kanzure> jrayhawk: hey maybe i'm just being stoopid early in the morning, but if i 'git clone git://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki' shouldn't i be able to push without doing anything special?
07:16 < augur> well basically when i was in my last year at community college i would spend quite a bit of my free time in the library browsing KAI.net
07:18 < augur> reading about mind and AI and stumbling randomly across parts about natural language
07:18 < augur> so i read more, about chomsky, etc
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07:18 < augur> eventually found language log
07:18 < augur> because fascinated by the formal structure of language
07:18 < augur> within a year i was a linguistics major
07:19 < augur> that 2006-2007
07:21 < kanzure> oh which reminds me.. i should have brought this up when we were talking about grammars last time
07:21 < kanzure> one of my interests in the skdb project is automatic instruction generation
07:21 < kanzure> which, as you can imagine, involves a lot of natural language generators
07:21 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/papers/instructions/
07:22 < kanzure> which has peculiar implications.. like having virtual agents to verify instructions (er, this is pre-language-generated stage of course)
07:22 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/papers/instructions/Virtual%20humans%20for%20validating%20maintenance%20procedures.pdf.1.png
07:22 < augur> if you want a local copy, btw
07:22 < augur> http://www.wellnowwhat.net/brain_archive/brain_archive.zip
07:22 < kanzure> ok here's a better diagram
07:22 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/papers/instructions/Generating%20effective%20natural%20language%20instructions%20based%20on%20agent%20expertise.pdf.fig518.png
07:23 < kanzure> thanks for brain_archive.zip :)
07:23 < augur> mind you, it wont load the external files offline
07:23 < augur> so all the GOOD parts of the site wont be accessible
07:23 < augur> unless you scrape those as well
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07:25 < augur> damn limechat
07:27 < kanzure> augur: http://designfiles.org/papers/instructions/Generating%20effective%20natural%20language%20instructions%20based%20on%20agent%20expertise.pdf.fig518.png
07:27 < kanzure> this isn't a good example of generating the sentences from an 'instruction object' but presumably it gets the point across
07:28 < augur> what is this now?
07:28 < kanzure> dunno if you saw the other log stuff from a few minutes ago
07:29 < kanzure> but basically i had forgotten your interest in grammars and so on
07:29 < kanzure> and i had forgot that i was doing some natural language generation (for instruction generation) before
07:29 < kanzure> and i figured it might be something that tickles your curiosity
07:30 < augur> oic
07:31 < augur> not /exactly/ natural language generation tho is it
07:31 < kanzure> i'd be happy to learn about the differences
07:31 < augur> i mean, you're stringing together pre-existing sentences into sequences of instructions
07:31 < kanzure> actually
07:31 < kanzure> there are two different things going on here
07:31 < augur> ok
07:31 < kanzure> (1) a project where you have pre-written instructions that are just "templated" with $VARIABLES
07:32 < kanzure> (2) a project where you do not have anything pre-written, just some sort of data structure
07:32 < kanzure> #1 doesn't seem like a difficult linguistic problem- it's just copy-pasta of different templates to string together long lists of lines
07:38  * augur dances
07:40  * AJollyLife dances too!
07:42 < augur> :)
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07:48 < Utopiah> (for whoever discussed about neurons axons/dentrites directionnality  https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Fractional_anisotropy )
07:48 < augur> that was me
07:48 < augur> whats this got to do with it
07:49 < Utopiah> used in DTI to check in which "direction" the "flow" is going
07:49 < Utopiah> (was in  http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0011591 )
07:49 < augur> ok
07:50 < kanzure> i guess the concept of instruction generation was a flop with you :p
07:50 < Utopiah> ?
07:50 < kanzure> Utopiah: with augur, not you heh
07:51 < augur> kanzure: instruction generation?
07:51 < augur> you mean your thing?
07:51 < augur> well i didnt see how it went beyond just mixing together pre-defined sentences
07:51 < Utopiah> ok
07:52  * Utopiah suddently wonders if fractional anisotropy is used in dataflow programming studies...
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07:59 < eridu> augur: <kanzure> (2) a project where you do not have anything pre-written, just some sort of data structure
07:59 < augur> right
07:59 < augur> but i dont see how that connects up with generated instructions
07:59 < eridu> I'm not sure what "some sort of data structure" is
08:00 < eridu> but presumably there's a programmatic way of conceptualizing the instructions, and it needs to be converted to natural language
08:00 < augur> well if there is he should explain more x3
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08:05 < klafka> kanzure i don' t work much on genomics stuff
08:06 < augur> well thats random
08:06 < augur> kanzure: i don't work much on genomics stuff either.
08:06 < augur> just fyi
08:07 < klafka> it was from above
08:08 < augur> oic
08:09 < augur> long ways above tho ey
08:27 < kanzure> augur: yeah we're not known for short backlogs in here :)
08:27 < kanzure> jrayhawk: git push git+ssh://bryan@diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki doesn't seem to do the trick
08:28 < kanzure> ok nevermind i should just git remote add that
08:28 < kanzure> but that didn't help. hrm.
08:29 < kanzure> aha git push bryan@diyhpl.us:/srv/git/diyhpluswiki.git .. finally :)
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08:33 < kanzure> not that it's at a usable state yet or anything but.. http://diyhpl.us/wiki/cadfaq
08:34 < kanzure> klafka: i was sorta joking, the typo matching problem is trivial in comparison to most bioinformatics and alignment problems
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08:34 < kanzure> augur: the "internal data structure" that i want to convert into some sort of written english instructions doesn't exist yet :(
08:34 < augur> oh i see
08:34 < augur> well
08:34 < augur> good luck with that x3
08:38 < kanzure> what i want is some way of specifying end states or goals (like machining a part a certain way, or moving an object to a certain position) and then search through tools and inventory to construct a mapping that will do that, then loop over the action sequence and turn it into text
08:39 < kanzure> but this is sorta a case where "the render-into-text informs the structure of the prior steps and the prior programming stuff informs the text rendering" loop thinger
08:39 < kanzure> (er, from a design/architecture standpoint)
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08:56 < Alystair> anyone at the lab? Need someone to log me out from youtube on the touch panel :/
09:00 < Alystair> er
09:00 < Alystair> oops wrong window
09:10 < augur> Alystair: im at the lab!
09:10 < augur> no im not im just kidding
09:19 < augur> http://www.ted.com/talks/tan_le_a_headset_that_reads_your_brainwaves.html
09:20 < augur> do want
09:20 < augur> do want nao
09:29 < augur> anyone built a TMS device ever?
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09:37 < kanzure> augur: http://transcenmentalism.org/OpenStim/
09:37 < kanzure> http://open-rtms.sf.net/ but these are all defunct
09:38 < kanzure> lots of papers are here: http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/open-rtms/
09:38 < kanzure> apparently i wrote an email about this last year? http://lists.puremagic.com/pipermail/robotgroup/2009-January/011286.html
09:45 < kanzure> well this is weird.. 
09:45 < kanzure> http://www.spyderware.nl/wiki/
09:45 < kanzure> http://www.spyderware.nl/docs/Spyder-3Dtutorials.doc
09:46 < kanzure> it seems to be a python library for parametric objects that are then fed into blender (no longer parameterized)
09:51 < kanzure> here is a similar idea to this weird blender-spyder-thing: http://www.blendernation.com/parametric-objects-in-blender-2/#comment-90779
09:56 < kanzure> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sjdv1982/spyder-framework/spyder-blender/annotate/head:/blender.py
09:57 < kanzure> aw i got a shout-out http://www.soniaarrison.com/blog/2010/07/23/doctor-of-the-future-in-developing-countries/ well, a hat tip
09:58 < kanzure> http://sciencepark.cc/2010/07/23/when-biotech-moves-into-the-basement-part-2-essay-remix/
09:58 < kanzure> http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/35619-genetic-manipulation-kit-do-it-yourself/
10:00 < kanzure> rfus tried to keep the blendercad peeps at bay here: http://blenderartists.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-43670.html a good try (search for rfus' post)
10:04 < kanzure> this looks like goerge whitesides' website for "diagnostics for all" (paper-based microfluidics)
10:04 < kanzure> http://www.dfa.org/about/approach.html
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10:18 < kanzure> wow what??
10:18 < kanzure> "For example, DFA is a designated subcontractor in a 5-year grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation awarded to Harvard University."
10:18 < kanzure> "DFA also holds the exclusive license to diagnostic technologies relevant to resource-poor settings that has been developed in the Harvard University laboratories of George Whitesides. We intend to generate revenue through licensing of this technology for use in the developed world to supplement our philanthropic support."
10:18 < kanzure> that was from http://www.dfa.org/resources/faqs.html
10:19 < genehacker> design for assembly?
10:20 < kanzure> "diagnostics for all"
10:20 < kanzure> it's george whitesides commercializing his paper-based microfluidic devices
10:20 < genehacker> "Inaba has made the German engineering slogan Weniger Teile, which means "fewer parts," Fanuc's slogan; machines with fewer parts are cheaper to produce and easier for automatons to assemble."
10:20 < genehacker> http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Fanuc-Ltd-Company-History.html
10:20 < genehacker> neat
10:21 < genehacker> but you can't compute with them very fast!
10:21 < kanzure> someone should get a headstart on the cellphone-image-based analysis of these paper-based microfluidic diagnostics
10:21 < kanzure> most of these people he's targetting just have a cell phone
10:22 < genehacker> old ones too
10:22 < kanzure> take a picture of it, run it through the analysis engine, get out some diagnosis information
10:22 < genehacker> that probably don't have much computing power
10:22 < kanzure> yeah so the pics are going to be uploaded to some server
10:22 < genehacker> which brings up a problem
10:23 < genehacker> how do you make sure the lighting conditions are right?
10:23 < genehacker> or in some cases the user doesn't interfere with the results either intentionally or unintentionally?
10:25 < kanzure> lighting conditions can be fixed with shadows (like from your body)
10:25 < kanzure> interfering with the results intentionally doesn't matter much.. it's just information.. and if you know it's bad info then you know it's bad info
10:26 < genehacker> for some health care programs getting tests that are hard to interefere with could be important
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10:27 < kanzure> if you were concerned about that you wouldn't have them individually test themselves, i think
10:27 < genehacker> IE results are tied to the serial number on the chip
10:27 < genehacker> for certain applications self-testing might be necessary
10:29 < genehacker> anyway I wonder how useful a large z80 level microfluidic computer would be
10:30 < genehacker> the chip would be huge, about a 4 centimeter on it's side square
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11:04 < kanzure> does anyone know the oldest living, most prolific, and still studying chemist?
11:05 < kanzure> i think Paul von Ragué Schleyer is in the running.. (born 1930)
11:05 < kanzure> *chemistry
11:06 < kanzure> http://web.archive.org/web/20070707090648/http://pcb4122.univ-lemans.fr/1000chimistes.html
11:07 < ENKI-][> do watson and crick count as chemists? i think one of them is still alive
11:08 < ENKI-][> the guy who invented mdma died pretty recently. he's certainly prolific
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11:33 < jrayhawk> git-daemon doesn't really have an authentication or authorization layer I can work with, so it'd be slightly foolhardy.
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11:33 < jrayhawk> Slightly foolhardy to make git:// URLs writable.
11:35 < jrayhawk> That said, there are wacky hooks that will do things like check to see if the objects are signed and keep you from updating any refs if it isn't the right signature.
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11:37 < jrayhawk> and any such objects can be git-pruned away on a cron job or something.
11:43 < kanzure> thanks
11:43 < jrayhawk> I haven't set that up, though.
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11:59 < mheld> any cool papers I should read about computational intelligence?
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12:09 < jrayhawk> I guess I could do the heavyweight approach of a per-project-git-daemon-inside-ssl-tunnel-managed-by-inetd with client verification. That'd put a hard limit of around 65k projects I could host on one machine.
12:09 < jrayhawk> But fundamentally SSH is just less goofy.
12:16 < ENKI-][> well, up until you use sshfs ;-)
12:17 < ENKI-][> i <3 sshfs, but it's quite unwieldy
12:23 < Alystair> http://www.netscrap.com/netscrap_detail.cfm?scrap_id=73 <- spooky goodness about GI created circuits
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16:56 < kanzure> Ian_Daniher: you should consider doing ethernet for the networking of your incubator
16:56 < kanzure> nobody scales usb hub infrastructure for a lab
16:56 < Ian_Daniher> this is true
16:56 < Ian_Daniher> so my catch-all solution here
16:56 < Ian_Daniher> is to use an elinux device like the seagate dockstar
16:57 < Ian_Daniher> openwrt, 3x USB, gig ethernet, for under $50.
16:57 < Ian_Daniher> which begs the question, is stand-alone capability worth $50?
16:57 < Ian_Daniher> well, super-stand-alone.
16:58 < Ian_Daniher> it already will have a twist-knob / 7-segment UI
16:58 < Ian_Daniher> which is solid for stand-alone opperation
16:59 < Ian_Daniher> what do you think?
17:00 < Ian_Daniher> a nice webUI about doubles the price, but offers a handful of openwrt/linux/gige USB ports in addition
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17:18 < splicer_> If you calculate with the DIY:er having a linux machine in the lab, maybe you can do away with ethernet, buttons and displays?
17:19 < Ian_Daniher> splicer_: generally my thoughts, yes.
17:19 < Ian_Daniher> splicer_: kanzure is a fan of extensible solutions; ethernet is, usb isn't.
17:20 < Ian_Daniher> splicer_: understandable, but I'm not sure if it makes sense for a DIY'er
17:20 < Ian_Daniher> splicer_: I'm keeping the button & display approach though - while it's likely that the DIYer has an appropriate machine, depending upon that seems silly.
17:21 < kanzure> Ian_Daniher: well you don't have to have a "nice" web ui
17:21 < kanzure> just a RESTful interface that something else can use
17:21 < splicer_> Ian_Daniher: On the buttons & display, you're probably right.
17:22 < kanzure> Ian_Daniher: it occurs to me that there might be something over rs232 that could work, but i don't know about any particular standards (on the same "level" of abstraction as REST) exist for com stuff
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17:27 < Ian_Daniher> kanzure: you suggest a standardized interface, rather than a merely open one?
17:28 < kanzure> no no not an interface, i was talking about a protocol thinger
17:28 < kanzure> nevermind- what i just said wasn't important :P
17:28 < Ian_Daniher> kanzure: lol, okay.
17:29 < Ian_Daniher> kanzure: I appear to use the term interface incorrectly.
17:29 < Ian_Daniher> kanzure: you want a standardized communication protocol, rather than merely an open-and-well-documented one?
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18:46 < kanzure> hi afarris01 
18:46 < afarris01> howdy
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18:50 < kristianpaul> kanzure: hello
18:52 < kristianpaul> kanzure: had you got apt-get for stuff for the makerbot cupcake?
18:53 < kanzure> yeah i have skdb packages for thingiverse objects
18:53 < kanzure> but i haven't tested with a makerbot yet
18:53 < kristianpaul> oh
18:54 < kristianpaul> so you can update from thingiverse easilly?
18:54 < kristianpaul> what formats are you supporting right now?
19:03 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/thingiverse/thingiverse_packages/
19:03 < kanzure> now what i don't have are makerbot config files for skeinforge or anything like that
19:04 < kanzure> and i haven't had anybody offer to test it with makerbot
19:04 < kristianpaul> i can
19:04 < kristianpaul> just pass the script i'll run :)
19:12 < kristianpaul> but tomorrow i'm off bed now
19:12 < kristianpaul> gn8
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21:47 < eridu> Skinny-dipping in blazing heat, skewered with acupuncture needles, as you laugh-and-cry, chomp on horseradish & masturbate
21:48 < eridu> this will yield maximum endorphins
21:48 < eridu> is there a DIY H+ way to do this twice a day?
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22:35 < jrayhawk> That guy's onto something.
22:58 < JayDugger> I suppose so, or at least on something.
23:04 < afarris01> lol
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