--- Log opened Wed Jul 28 00:00:17 2010 --- Log opened Wed Jul 28 00:00:43 2010 00:01 < kanzure> ybit: they could still sue you if you build it (even if it's just for educational, or even private uses) 00:01 < kanzure> patent law sucks, yes 00:01 < ybit> yeah, i was reading this :\ 00:02 < ybit> they have to explicitly put that it can be used for educational purposes or give you permission 00:02 < ybit> so if you don't want to get sued, it's best to do it yourself, let your friends and others who could use it know, and hope for the best 00:04 < ybit> one day i'm going to move to an obscure country where this isn't a concern 00:04 < kanzure> obscure? like.. brazil? 00:12 < splicer> afghanistan? 00:12 < kanzure> that's a pretty well known country 00:13 < splicer> patent law would be the least of your concerns 00:13 < splicer> has brazil bypassed other patents besides aids medication? 00:20 < splicer> (build a nation from that field of plastic in the pacific) 00:21 < jrayhawk> move to sealand 00:23 < kanzure> i wonder if we can troll interpol to the point where they use military force to invade a country for not paying intellectual licensing fees 00:23 < kanzure> *intellectual property 00:25 < splicer> the dreaded interpol army 00:25 < superkuh> I think Doctorow wrote a short story about that. 00:25 < kanzure> cory probably has a time machine to go into the future and steal all the good ideas 00:26 < jrayhawk> how did he get the idea for the time machine? 00:26 < kanzure> your grandmother's paradox underpants? 00:27 < superkuh> http://www.infinitematrix.net/stories/shorts/after-the-siege.html 00:31 < splicer> jrayhaw's grandmother is mormon? 00:32 < kanzure> thanks for pointing out how terrible my grandfather paradox time travel reference joke was :( 00:32 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:32 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_paradox 00:48 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:09 < fenn> context trying to decide what videos (or section of videos) from not-ephemerisle to post to youtube 01:11 < fenn> superkuh: i just linked to that like two days ago 01:12 < fenn> not accusatory, just my overthresholded coincidence detectors, what with the universe imploding and all 01:13 < superkuh> Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon. 01:17 < fenn> btw kanzure if you'd bring the hard drive from tubputer that'd be cool 01:18 < fenn> not bringing it would be cool too, since that'd mean i still have a server somewhere that isn't overrun with craazy hackers 01:32 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:32 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:40 < patrickmclaren> kanzure: were you able to think of anything to post? 01:41 < patrickmclaren> re pink army 01:41 < patrickmclaren> dont want to be cast off as a lone soldier 01:48 < fenn> oh btw kanzure the train takes like 2.5 hours to berkeley from mountain view 01:48 < fenn> so that might get tiresome 01:51 < splicer> patrickmclaren: pinging someone else to do something isn't exactly soldiering, not sure what it is. 02:32 < splicer> it's transhumanism 02:33 -!- dizm [7962a87f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.98.168.127] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:37 -!- streety [~s0678364@cpat002.wlan.net.ed.ac.uk] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:43 -!- streety [~s0678364@cpat002.wlan.net.ed.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:45 -!- streety [~s0678364@vpn2-083.vpn.net.ed.ac.uk] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:23 -!- nsh [~nsh@87.112.112.141.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:25 -!- Atrus6 [4cf17472@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.241.116.114] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:30 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log opened Wed Jul 28 03:37:26 2010 03:38 -!- gnusha__ [~gnusha@131.252.130.248] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:38 -!- Topic for #hplusroadmap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n39RK4inzg http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2009/ http://heybryan.org/ 03:38 -!- Topic set by kanzure [] [Mon Jan 11 11:14:52 2010] 03:38 [Users #hplusroadmap] 03:38 [ Atrus6 ] [ gnusha_ ] [ memenode ] [ shepazu ] 03:38 [ augur ] [ gnusha__ ] [ nchaimov ] [ splicer ] 03:38 [ bkero ] [ guibou ] [ niftyzero ] [ streety ] 03:38 [ CIA-51 ] [ Ian_Daniher ] [ niftyzero1 ] [ streety1 ] 03:38 [ clemux ] [ jrayhawk ] [ nima ] [ superkuh ] 03:38 [ drazak ] [ kanzure ] [ nsh ] [ ToyKeeper ] 03:38 [ egeste ] [ kardan ] [ nsh_ ] [ uniqanomaly] 03:38 [ elmom ] [ kive ] [ Overand ] [ Utopiah ] 03:38 [ ENKI-][ ] [ kristianpaul] [ pasky_ ] [ wolfspraul ] 03:38 [ fenn ] [ kyb3R ] [ patrickmclaren] [ ybit ] 03:38 [ ghchinoy] [ mage2 ] [ Phreedom ] 03:38 [ gnusha ] [ masked ] [ QuantumG ] 03:38 -!- Irssi: #hplusroadmap: Total of 46 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 46 normal] 03:38 -!- Channel #hplusroadmap created Fri Jan 29 23:48:24 2010 03:38 -!- Irssi: Join to #hplusroadmap was synced in 1 secs 03:39 < gnusha__> designfiles.org got a dmca takedown notice yesterday from vince gingery sent through UT 03:41 < Atrus6> ut? 03:49 < jrayhawk> University of Texas. 03:55 -!- pasky_ [pasky@nikam-dmz.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:55 -!- pasky [pasky@nikam-dmz.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:58 < gnusha__> fenn if the server goes back up will you please hide /var/www/papers/sinister.com/ for me? 04:03 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:33 < streety> is that why the site is down or is that a separate issue? 04:53 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:53 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 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gnusha__: what? 12:59 < gnusha__> I am within geospatial proximity 12:59 < bkero> geospatial, 'eh? 12:59 < bkero> Distance? 13:00 < gnusha__> uh. sf/caltrain station 13:01 < gnusha__> i actually have plans already, but we should try to not miss eahc other 13:01 < bkero> Sure 13:01 < bkero> I'll be here for a few months 13:01 < bkero> I'm required to go to some stupid baseball game in half an hour. 13:03 -!- splicer [~patrik@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:09 < ybit> gingery, that bastard 13:10 < ybit> taking the comp down for a few hours.. for a stability check.. :) 13:15 -!- ybit [4c1df68b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.29.246.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:48 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279558760.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:06 -!- ybit [4c1df68b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.29.246.139] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:06 -!- ybit [4c1df68b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.29.246.139] has left #hplusroadmap [] 14:06 -!- ybit 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circuit board 18:18 < genehacker> the one with all plans released? 18:36 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:37 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:38 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:52 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-80-151.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Quit: uniqanomaly_] 18:55 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:00 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:01 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-130-146.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:06 < JayDugger> Good evening everyone. 19:14 < fenn> bah 19:14 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:15 < JayDugger> Good evening to you in particular, fenn. 19:16 < fenn> thanks jay 19:16 < fenn> the 'bah' was because genehacker quit and i had a link ready for him 19:16 < fenn> http://mtm.cba.mit.edu/machines/mtm_az/index.html 19:18 < JayDugger> When IRC is gone, there's always email. 19:22 < QuantumG> ok Tab Candy is awesome 19:22 < QuantumG> perhaps even *too* awesome 19:22 < QuantumG> I may never close a tab again 19:22 < QuantumG> I'm looking at my bookmarks and thinking "why do I need you?" 19:29 < JayDugger> fenn, do you have a link for an overview of the MTM concept? 19:32 < klafka> what is MTM? 19:33 < JayDugger> QuantumG, try using Tab Filter and Tree Style Tab while you wait for the promises of Tab Candy. 19:34 < QuantumG> I'm using Tab Candy right now 19:34 < JayDugger> If you don't use a tiling window manager, you could also try some of the extensions that split screens. 19:35 < JayDugger> You won't get the zooming UI or the collaboration, but you'll probably get 80% of the rest. 19:35 < JayDugger> klafka, that's why I asked for an overview link. :) 19:38 -!- Noahj 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Good night. 20:03 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:09 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 20:10 -!- qgqg [~qg@rtfm.insomnia.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:11 -!- QuantumG [~qg@rtfm.insomnia.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:26 -!- Noahj [~noah@24.38.188.78] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:31 -!- Noahj [~noah@24.38.188.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:32 -!- Noahj [~noah@24.38.188.78] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:36 -!- Noahj [~noah@24.38.188.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:37 -!- Noahj [~noah@24.38.188.78] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:43 -!- fenn [~fenn@user-64-9-233-7.googlewifi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:45 -!- fenn [~fenn@140a.hackerdojo.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:51 -!- fenn [~fenn@140a.hackerdojo.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:53 -!- Noahj [~noah@24.38.188.78] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 20:54 -!- fenn [~fenn@user-64-9-233-7.googlewifi.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:54 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:54 -!- Noahj [~noah@24.38.188.78] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:58 -!- Noahj [~noah@24.38.188.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:59 -!- Noahj [~noah@24.38.188.78] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:02 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:11 -!- fenn [~fenn@user-64-9-233-7.googlewifi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:12 -!- qgqg is now known as QuantumG 21:12 < QuantumG> right, hacked Tab Candy to overlay the titles at the top of the thumbnails instead of caption style 21:13 -!- fenn [~fenn@140a.hackerdojo.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:22 < fenn> anyone want to go to north carolina? learn java + php? make millions of dollars (after years of toil) and build out this website: http://leaguescape.com 21:23 < fenn> this guy needs someone to be his tech partner in a 12 week incubator program, contacted me out of the blue today, seems nice enough on the phone 21:24 < fenn> anyway, if you want 12 weeks with no rent in research triangle park and are willing to "get married" to some total stranger who likes fantasy sports 21:38 -!- fenn [~fenn@140a.hackerdojo.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:39 -!- fenn [~fenn@user-64-9-236-243.googlewifi.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:40 < QuantumG> heh 21:42 < fenn> "fantasy sports" is apparently a 1 billion dollar industry, with a special exemption from online gambling laws 21:42 < fenn> i had never heard of it until this morning 21:45 < QuantumG> I'd heard of it because they make fun of it on sitcoms 21:53 < ybit> wuh? 21:53 < ybit> i'll go 21:53 < ybit> nothing is brewing here it seems 21:53 < ybit> nothing legal at least 21:55 < splicer> The fantasy sports thing is big, especially fake soccer... there is also about a million startups like that. 21:55 < ybit> that's a point worth noting 21:55 < ybit> second thought, illegal stuff looks more realistic 21:56 < splicer> the problem is getting people to join, not to make the software. 21:58 -!- splicer [~patrik@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:00 < fenn> "A 2006 study showed 22 percent of U.S. adult males 18 to 49 years old, with Internet access, play fantasy sports." 22:03 < fenn> surprised robin hanson hasn't hyped it all up.. it's a functioning prediction market after all, and a pretty big one by any standard 22:05 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:05 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:11 -!- fenn [~fenn@user-64-9-236-243.googlewifi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:23 -!- fenn_ [~fenn@user-64-9-236-243.googlewifi.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:38 -!- splicer [~Patrik@92.39.2.9] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:40 < fenn_> "louis wain made some cat paintings, and went crazy" http://www.ice-nine.org/matt/wain/ 23:57 < splicer> :D 23:59 < splicer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_pS46YRMIQ --- Log closed Thu Jul 29 00:00:17 2010 --- Log closed Thu Jul 29 00:00:26 2010 --- Log closed Thu Jul 29 00:00:43 2010