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04:59 < epitron> http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/tabcandy/
04:59 < epitron> that is so hot
05:06 < splicer> Does anyone know if Mac and Jason manage to live of DIYbio or do they have daytime jobs?
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09:28 < kanzure> splicer: they "live off diybio" but jason has a job with george church
09:51 < bkero> You can live off diybio?
09:51 < bkero> I guess you can grow you own plants, but you need to rent space/living sundries
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10:09 < kanzure> bkero: no, i mean by conning people into giving them grants and stuff
10:09 < bkero> Ah that
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10:37 < kanzure> edge-of-your-seat action http://www.forkliftsimulator.com/
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11:37 < kanzure> hi sketchything 
11:43 < kanzure> epitron: did you deactivate my bito account?
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13:18 < fenn> people here sure take long lunch breaks... i rode my bike to the store after everybody left, puttered around deciding on what sort of pita bread to get, and came back after about an hour and everybody's still gone
13:25 < kanzure> i've been wondering about this
13:25 < kanzure> it seems that the "time frequency" that everyone is on up here is different
13:25 < kanzure> and i'm not calibrated or something
13:25 < kanzure> like, i expect things to happen faster than they actually do (like in person i mean)
13:25 < kanzure> in austin my "time sense" seems to be okay
13:26 < toby_456> Like a interpersonal phase shift?
13:26  * kanzure nods
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13:37 < toby_456> I think it's like injection locking in oscillators. At first the the injected and the generated signal have very little offset. Then they drift apart. It it reaches 180 degrees it jumps over to the next cycle and is parallel again.
13:47 < fenn> bandwidth a fundamental human right? http://globalthoughtz.com/2010/07/access-to-broadband-internet-connection-a-legal-right-in-finland/
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14:04 < splicer> kanzure: thanks for answering the 'live off DIYbio' question about 4.5h ago... I had to go away for a while, just saw it now
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14:33 < kanzure> so, biocurious is entirely joseph's doing
14:33 < kanzure> and tito and eri aren't pulling their weight with it :P
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14:51 < kanzure> http://bothacker.com/ another makerbot thinger like pp3pd or whatever it was
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15:02 < kanzure> thingiverse is looking for a developer http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/eng/1880806188.html
15:02 < kanzure> i need a puppet to work for them :P
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15:15 < kanzure> "this should be obvious/easy - looking for an authoritative source for lab equipment/definitions - like a taxonomy or dictionary or something for pipettes and stuff - thought for sure IUPAC or NIST, but no luck. Help?"
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15:23 < epitron> kanzure: no, you've just been gone so long that the box has had its hard drive die and it's been reformatted :)
15:23 < epitron> did you wanna host a buttload of papers on it or something?
15:24 < kanzure> yes plz
15:25 < kanzure> a metric buttload, not the english wankery
15:29 < epitron> hmmm
15:30 < epitron> how are you going to get around the DMCA thing though?
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15:30 < epitron> it's probably better to host it in one of those countries where all the botnets come from :)
15:30 < epitron> s/botnets/botnet coordinators/
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15:47 < kanzure> well, there are other uses for servers
15:48 < kanzure> fenn: any hints on what i should show gary wolf?
15:54 < kanzure> has anyone looked at gerber2scad
15:54 < kanzure> http://github.com/clothbot/eda/tree/master/gerber/
15:55 < kanzure> wow it's just a sed script
15:55 < kanzure> namely this one: http://github.com/clothbot/eda/blob/master/gerber/gerber2scad.sed
15:55 < toby_456> Yeah! Almost as bad as pearl.
15:56 < kanzure> toby_456: also, welcome :)
15:56 < toby_456> Umm, yes... Hi!
15:56 < kanzure> have you been here much before?
15:56 < toby_456> Nope.
15:57 < toby_456> You invited me yesterday, 'cause I was the only one mailing on the OpenrTMS list for the last 1.5y.
15:59 < kanzure> oh oh :) i know who you are now
15:59 < kanzure> cool
15:59 < toby_456> Yeah, I am doing some electronics for the project. i.e. signal generator& coil drivers.
16:01 < toby_456> Have You had a look into the Parallax Propeller? (8-core microcontroller)
16:02 < toby_456> Has enough power to do online articulatory speech synthesis.
16:08 < kanzure> yes i've looked at the propeller
16:08 < kanzure> the stumbling block in rtms projects seems to be the high voltage electronics
16:08 < toby_456> Huh? We are not doing TENS here.
16:09 < kanzure> don't you need to do some sort of high frequency pulsing via a giant electromagnet
16:09 < toby_456> On 20 Gauss on the skulls surface. Thats 100 mA in 1000 turns on 1cm diameter iron (according to QuickField).
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16:11 < toby_456> I thought the idea behind the rTMS system was to use low-level signals.
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16:12 < toby_456> If You have some given circuit and You want to inject a signal. You would normally choose a level thats in the normal operating range of the electronics.
16:15 < toby_456> Holding a big coil to someones head, running a 1.5 Tesla pulse through his brain and explaining: "Now You cannot move Your legs for half a minute." Yeah, right. That's research.
16:16 < fenn> odd that they explicitly mention "shareware" http://www.playatech.com/
16:16 < fenn> (diy furniture plans)
16:22 < kanzure> fennnnn... advice on what to send to gary please?
16:22 < fenn> umm... graphs?
16:22 < fenn> a story?
16:22 < fenn> i dont really get why he's presenting it "for you"
16:22 < kanzure> graphs with nodes and edges or the plotting
16:22 < fenn> sounds like a recipe for disaster
16:23 < fenn> plots
16:23 < kanzure> how could this possibly fail :P (a somewhat serious question i guess)
16:24 < fenn> you'd think microsoft research center would have some kind of telepresence setup
16:25 < kanzure> so what plots do you think they would like to see
16:25 < kanzure> tag plots, daily aggregates, individual plots (per person), the threshold graphs, or something entirely else like the tag clouds
16:26 < kanzure> i guess i should switch this around and just ask what sort of data most interests you
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18:39 < mheld> anybody know of any good text to speech libraries?
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18:58 < QuantumG> http://quantumg.blogspot.com/2010/08/scaled-composites-dirty-little-secret.html
19:03 < fenn> hum it only took an hour to install django on windows
19:03 < fenn> if i had known that i would have tried it a long time ago
19:04 < fenn> i liked the tag clouds personally
19:04 < kanzure> gah, phone
19:04 < fenn> also it would be cool to do a graph graph like .. umm. that file that was on fennetic.net which is gone
19:04 < kanzure> .. thanks :P
19:04 < fenn> basically you tie together people you know by the context you know them in
19:05 < fenn> and visualize that with graphviz
19:05 < fenn> so you should get clusters of certain types of geekiness (i.e. seasteading clusters with cryonics for whatever reason)
19:06 < kanzure> there was a graph out there of someone who whored himself out to tim orielly
19:06 < kanzure> then he visualized people based on who introduced him to who
19:06 < kanzure> and he had long, deep chains, like 8 levels deep sometimes
19:06 < kanzure> in my case i don't really have that.. most of the time i just find someone before someone introduces me to them
19:07 < kanzure> but context-in-which-you-know-them would work how? the nodes would be tags?
19:08 < kanzure> i could do a generic clustering algorithm on top of the tag clouds and just spit out lists of clusters of people based on what tags they are associated with
19:08 < kanzure> but that wouldn't be something that could be thrown into graphviz
19:10 < fenn> yeah that's sort of where i got the idea
19:10 < fenn> but i didnt have introductions data so i used context instead
19:11 < fenn> nodes are just tags, the clustering isn't a discriminator, it's just the layout of the graph
19:11 < kanzure> if nodes are tags where are the people?
19:11 < fenn> other nodes?
19:11 < fenn> i had two node types i guess
19:11 < kanzure> ok got it
19:12 < kanzure> i have about 3k people and 6k tags
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19:26  * fenn grumbles
19:26 < fenn> i'm going home
19:26 < fenn> talk amongst yourselves
19:26 < Renovatio> fenn i need to speak to you.
19:26 < Renovatio> partnership.
19:26  * fenn mumbles something about fantasy sports
19:26 < fenn> bbiab
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19:27 < Fighter> fenn
19:27 < Fighter> are you a programmer?
19:27 < Fighter> do you do coding?
20:11 < Fighter> oh come on jrayhawk
20:11 < Fighter> in the middle of the discussion
20:11 < Fighter> where did you go
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22:27 < kanzure> ftp://emi.nasdaq.com/ITCH/
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22:46 < Alystair> what's this
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23:23 < Utopiah> Alystair: http://itchdata.nasdaq.com/
23:48 < fenn> re: old color photographs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Prokudin-Gorsky
23:51 < fenn> color photographs of children who have long since died of old age
23:56 < fenn> more of same photographer http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/work.html
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