--- Log opened Fri Aug 06 00:00:17 2010 00:20 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@diana.null.ro] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:20 -!- ybit [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:30 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-72-231-169-163.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:33 -!- Joeconyers [~Joe@ool-182fafef.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:54 -!- Juul is now known as Joule 00:55 -!- Joule is now known as Juul 01:35 < Alystair> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcV1qWaVhe4 holy shit physics simulation batman 01:40 < fenn> Alystair that is really cool 01:44 < fenn> the destructible stuff at the end is amazing 01:45 -!- Repomen [~fgafgdgad@202.80.39.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:54 < Alystair> yeah the part with the cube just sealed it for me 01:54 < Alystair> so much awesome stuff going on at siggraph 02:00 < fenn> automatic texture extraction/remapping from video http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=mNLx9pclMKU 02:21 < fenn> and now, in reality: http://www.youtube.com/user/cglweb#p/u/6/wL2dgHlP-xk 02:23 -!- Repomen [~fgafgdgad@202.80.39.79] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:23 -!- Repomen [~fgafgdgad@202.80.39.79] has quit [Client Quit] 02:23 -!- Repomen [~fgafgdgad@202.80.39.79] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:37 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:47 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:51 < fenn> harmonics in fluids ("you've seen the video, now read the paper!") http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=l95tZCl7YlQ 03:06 -!- Repomen [~fgafgdgad@202.80.39.79] has quit [] 03:24 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:24 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:42 < Alystair> mind blown 03:48 -!- splicer [~Patrik@92.39.2.12] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:58 < fenn> bkero: you have a beagle board right? i'd really like to get my hands on a working one as soon as possible; digikey seems to be out of stock and mine never worked afaict 04:02 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279558689.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:02 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:05 -!- guibou [~guibou@kraken.insecable.net] has left #hplusroadmap [] 04:31 < fenn> hm i wonder if i should wait for xM, supposedly just around the corner 04:32 < fenn> want to have minimal functionality by the 13th, feasible? 04:58 < fenn> jeebus that's cheap http://search.ebay.com/230466920622 05:37 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:38 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:43 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-172-39.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:01 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:01 < fenn> haha kanzure this is your new laptop http://search.ebay.com/230507203639 06:02 < fenn> that's actually kinda amazing 06:10 < genehacker> is it more capable than the OLPC? 06:13 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:18 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-172-39.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:23 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:28 < QuantumG> are those things collectors items yet? 06:29 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-172-39.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:33 < nsh_> oO 06:33 < nsh_> beagle board looks cool 06:33 < nsh_> what do they run for? (price-wise)? 06:34 < nsh_> $150 06:34 < nsh_> fenn, any applications in mind? 06:53 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:55 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-172-39.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:56 -!- splicer [~Patrik@92.39.2.12] has quit [Quit: Lämnar] 07:16 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-172-39.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:26 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:29 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 07:45 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-172-39.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:45 -!- AJollyLife [~Jolly@unaffiliated/ajollylife] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:14 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:19 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:25 < Utopiah> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCvMWZePS8E 08:25 < Utopiah> (no more bot?) 08:26 < Utopiah> O'Reilly Webcast: Cyborg Anthropology: A Short Introduction August 2010 08:44 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:20 -!- splicer [~Splicer@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:23 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@diana.null.ro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:45 < bkero> fenn: I fried mine years ago 09:46 < bkero> fenn: I'm waiting for the XMs to come in stock. 10:01 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:16 -!- AJollyLife [~Jolly@unaffiliated/ajollylife] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:29 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:47 -!- Joeconyers [~Joe@ool-182fafef.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:57 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:23 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:31 -!- splicer [~Splicer@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:54 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:08 -!- superkuh [~hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: Yay, real internet again.] 12:10 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:50 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-172-39.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:01 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-172-39.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:08 -!- splicer [~Splicer@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:25 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-122-159.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:35 < AJollyLife> phryk: have you seen this? - http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/enhanced/scrapheap-transhumanism 14:54 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-122-159.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:11 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279558689.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:15 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-87-105-21-212.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:16 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-87-105-21-156.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:38 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 15:46 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:46 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:54 -!- Repomen [~fgafgdgad@202.80.39.79] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:56 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: ybit 16:02 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ybit 16:19 -!- niftyzero1 [~miron@dsl081-070-214.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:41 -!- Repomen [~fgafgdgad@202.80.39.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:44 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:52 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@70-36-134-77.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:30 -!- splicer_ [~patrik@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:31 -!- splicer [~Splicer@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Quit: Lämnar] 18:34 -!- Repomen [~fgafgdgad@202.80.39.79] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:34 -!- Repomen [~fgafgdgad@202.80.39.79] has quit [Client Quit] 18:34 -!- splicer_ [~patrik@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:37 -!- Repomen [~fgafgdgad@202.80.39.79] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:37 < Repomen> where is kanzure? 18:37 -!- splicer [~patrik@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:43 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@70-36-134-77.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:51 -!- Repomen [~fgafgdgad@202.80.39.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:53 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:27 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:32 -!- Repomen [~fgafgdgad@202.80.39.79] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:37 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:38 -!- Repomen [~fgafgdgad@202.80.39.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:50 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:10 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:27 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:34 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 21:39 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:44 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:47 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:02 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:08 -!- JayDugger [~Jay_Dugge@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:33 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:46 -!- Repomen [~fgafgdgad@202.80.39.79] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:48 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:09 -!- Repomen [~fgafgdgad@202.80.39.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:12 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:22 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:22 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:36 < phryk> AH no, thank you AJollyLife ! 23:36 < phryk> I asked him about rfid too. 23:36 < phryk> I have a reader and a few stickers with chips here :) 23:40 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:41 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:42 < phryk> AJollyLife: Now I'm asking myself what it would feel like to have an implanted rfid chip been read out while having a neodyme implant next to it :D 23:46 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@70-36-134-77.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:47 < phryk> Morning, JayDugger 23:47 < phryk> err 23:47 < phryk> jennifer2: 23:47 < fenn> you can't feel RF 23:48 < phryk> fenn: why not? it's building up a big em-field in order to power the chip... 23:48 < phryk> also http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/enhanced/skin-phone <-- omg, i always dreamt of something like that 23:48 < fenn> the frequency is too high, the magnet weighs too much, your nerves can't register vibrations that fast either 23:49 < fenn> bleh 23:49 < fenn> why not just tape an iphone to your arm 23:49 < fenn> the more i read about implants the less appealing they are 23:50 < phryk> Why that? 23:51 < fenn> "For most individuals 2 to 3 kHz is the upper threshold for tactile reception." 23:51 < phryk> fenn: I think vibration isn't what makes you feel the em-fields. 23:51 < fenn> what is it then? magic? 23:51 < phryk> induction if i understood lepht correctly 23:52 < fenn> not unless you have an induction coil hooked up to your nerves 23:52 < phryk> magnet gets electrically loaded and gives off small current to your nerve-endings 23:52 < fenn> no that's crap 23:52 < phryk> I don't know. 23:52 < fenn> a permanent magnet has no inductance 23:53 < phryk> Well I don't know. I'm just telling you what I have been told. 23:53 < phryk> Before I was sure it was movement of the magnet, too. But then again I'm not an expert. 23:54 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:54 < fenn> uh, just take everything lepht says with a tablespoon of salt, ok? 23:54 < phryk> I botched the electrothingy exam and had to be revalidated^^ 23:54 < phryk> fenn: yes, i am no idiot. 23:54 < jennifer2> magnetic fields interact, the nerve endings are EXTREMELY sensitive to the very slight movement in the magnet (like amplifying the vibrations of a phonograph) 23:54 < phryk> Well I am, but I am capable of critical thinking. 23:55 < fenn> i wonder why nobody experiments with flanagan's "neurophone" 23:56 < fenn> even if it turns out to just be bone conduction or something, it's still cool 23:56 < phryk> what is it? 23:57 < phryk> WHOA 23:57 < fenn> the original version was this high voltage electrode paddle you stuck to your torso, when audio was pumped through it you could hear it clearly as "another audio channel beyond hearing" 23:57 < phryk> another thing i always wanted 23:58 < phryk> I always wanted to have some kinda "headphones" so i didn't have to wear headphones in order to hear music in class. 23:58 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:58 < phryk> And now, NOW after school, i get told it's been there since '58? >__< 23:58 < phryk> Well university still lies before me^^ 23:58 < fenn> flanagan thought the high voltage caused the skin to contract (piezoelectricity?) and this stimulated the tactile nerves in such a way that they could transmit sound 23:58 < phryk> fenn: when i have that thing running 23:58 < fenn> so version 2 used ultrasonic piezo transducers to poke the nerves directly 23:59 < phryk> will i "shock" other people, who touch me?^^ 23:59 < phryk> or can i make them hear what i hear through that thing by touching them? 23:59 < fenn> no, it's not static electricity 23:59 < fenn> uh, not sure about the second q 23:59 < phryk> that would be awesome 23:59 < phryk> you know 23:59 < fenn> yes it would --- Log closed Sat Aug 07 00:00:13 2010