--- Log opened Sat Aug 07 00:00:13 2010 --- Day changed Sat Aug 07 2010 00:00 < phryk> Have a few people hook up those things to the same sound source 00:00 < phryk> and make a huge rave with people holdin ghands, and noone who doesn't touc the other people hears it 00:00 < phryk> Would be fucking awesome 00:01 < phryk> or just go through the town and have a monologue playing always repeating "You have to kill them, you know you want it! Do it already!" 00:01 < phryk> and just go around and touch random peoples skin :3 00:01 < phryk> (I am a real asshole, yes) 00:02 < phryk> mhh 00:02 < phryk> 649EUR for the neurophone 00:03 < phryk> thanks for suggesting that thing anyway 00:04 < phryk> If i happen to have the money, I'll definitely get one of those :) 00:05 < phryk> 00:05 < fenn> i figure it's doable with $10 worth of generic electronic components 00:06 < phryk> fenn: D: 00:06 < fenn> he explains how it works in various websites 00:06 < phryk> But as I said I'm an idiot in terms of electricity. 00:06 < phryk> I can solder stuff together - sure. 00:07 < fenn> of course you will have to wade through bullshit like http://www.phisciences.com/ 00:07 < phryk> But to get to the point to actually solder shit together is currently beyond me... 00:07 < phryk> EWWW 00:07 < phryk> KILLITWITHFIRE 00:08 < fenn> lol http://www.thebuttkicker.com/ 00:08 < phryk> fenn: When building that thing for 10 bucks, that would influence the sound-quality, wouldn't it? 00:09 < phryk> Huh, that's just another bodyshaker, ain't it? 00:09 < fenn> dunno, i doubt flanagan has done much actual improvement since the 80's 00:11 < fenn> hmm. ultrasound underwater for VR tactile interface 00:11 < fenn> just an idea 00:12 < phryk> And I have no Idea what it means^^ 00:12 < fenn> either an amazingly good or amazingly bad idea 00:12 < phryk> whale song simulation? 00:12 < fenn> phryk: take this thing and dunk it in a bucket http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSf2-jm0SsQ 00:13 < phryk> That would be fucking amazing. 00:13 < phryk> If it worked. 00:13 < phryk> I think it would just die horribly the second it get's a current. 00:14 < fenn> them's the breaks 00:14 < fenn> i was looking at this page when i thought of it http://www.clarksynthesis.com/pool_and_spa_products.html 00:15 < fenn> i should start keeping track of 'if i had a million dollars' stuff 00:16 < phryk> that might jsut work 00:16 < phryk> heh 00:16 < phryk> also errm 00:16 < phryk> i don't know how well this could work 00:16 < phryk> but try just laying the ultrasound thingy underneath an aquarium 00:16 < phryk> if the glass is thin enough, it might work... 00:17 < phryk> You could also have a simple box made out of 1mm plexistuff, should suffice to hold a bit of water 00:18 < phryk> or build a plexiglass thing around the speaker with just the insulated cable going out 00:18 < fenn> oh, sure, just a bag of gel or whatever should work fine 00:19 < phryk> as long as it doesn't get blasted away by the soundwaves... seemed to be somewhat powerful, but can't say since i didn't feel it 00:19 < fenn> could combine with something like jef han's original reverse biased LED array multitouch sensor 00:20 < fenn> damn i need a patron 00:20 < phryk> http://www.ted.com/talks/jeff_han_demos_his_breakthrough_touchscreen.html <-- thingy? 00:20 < fenn> probably not. is that the google maps demo? 00:21 < phryk> i have no idea 00:21 < phryk> first thing with touch whatever in the title 00:22 < fenn> this is what i was referring to http://cs.nyu.edu/~jhan/ledtouch/index.html 00:23 < fenn> the point is to sense where the fingers are in the gel bag and not get in the way of the ultrasound 00:23 < fenn> so you interleave LED's and ultrasound transducers 00:25 * fenn waves to the patent trolls 00:25 < phryk> Ohmigod 00:25 < phryk> leds can sense light, too?? 00:27 < phryk> fenn: Do you have circuit diagrams for that thing? 00:29 < fenn> i think there was a huge thread on sparkfun about it 00:35 < fenn> http://www.pcb-dev.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=56&lang=english 00:35 < fenn> arm7 is probably overkill, i think this could be done with an atmega 00:36 < phryk> doesn't seem like circuit diagrams :/ 00:36 < phryk> Well 00:37 < phryk> I just sent a mail to han asking for them^^ 00:37 < fenn> hah good luck 00:37 < phryk> Heh 00:37 < phryk> Would be nice for a change 00:38 < fenn> he says he gets thousands of emails a day since demoing the FTIR thing 00:38 < phryk> FTIR? 00:39 < fenn> btw i dont know why you said "doesn't seem like circuit diagrams" - there are eagle files if you click "download" on the left 00:40 < fenn> gpl even 00:40 < phryk> whut 00:40 < phryk> i am dumb 00:42 < phryk> Mhh 00:42 < phryk> but he uses ir leds 00:42 < phryk> can i just use other leds? 00:42 < phryk> i'd like to use that thing as display as well 00:42 < fenn> yeah, they all have to be the same color though (you can use RGB too i guess) 00:43 < phryk> nah one colour is sufficient 00:43 < phryk> i plan on controlling mpd with it 00:43 < fenn> uh.. ok 00:43 < JayDugger> fenn--wasn't there an article in Science or Nature a decade or so ago about the neurophone. It stimulates one of the inner ear's structures, IIRC. 00:43 < phryk> i can have a "clickable" display on my wall 00:43 < phryk> the awesome part is 00:43 < JayDugger> No one plays with them because Flanagan charges a small fortune. 00:43 < phryk> i can render a little interface with next stop pause etc 00:43 < fenn> JayDugger: yes that's what it says on his website 00:44 < phryk> and only the things that are displayed are sensitive to touch 00:45 < fenn> phryk: i think you could have 'dark' leds sensitive too (because humans cant see very quick flashes of light) 00:45 < fenn> all LED's would be on for a few microseconds each 00:45 < fenn> or however long your adc takes 00:46 < phryk> ah yes 00:46 < phryk> but i don't want that ;) 00:47 < phryk> i think the hard part will be designing an interface that fits on 8x8 00:47 < Alystair> anyone here in NYC? 00:48 < JayDugger> Has anyone worked up a Google custom search engine for the #hplusroadmap logs? 00:48 < Alystair> going to be in the area for a week, need cool things to check out during downtime, possibly people :P 00:48 < fenn> JayDugger: just do site:gnusha.org 00:48 < JayDugger> Alystair, not me. 00:48 < JayDugger> fenn--duh. Thanks. 00:50 < fenn> Alystair: go to the lincoln center on friday the 13th at 8 pm, and record super-collider, pardue, and gamelan elektrika for me, k thx 00:50 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:51 < fenn> bring a mic with wide frequency response 00:52 < fenn> oh yeah, kronos quartet, meh 00:52 < fenn> Alystair: http://new.lincolncenter.org/live/index.php/ood-2010-kronos-kenge 00:53 < fenn> holy crap they were in baraka 00:56 < fenn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkxuPxdsZ58 01:14 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:04 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:05 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:05 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:19 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:20 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:32 -!- JayDugger [~Jay_Dugge@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:32 -!- JayDugger [~Jay_Dugge@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:47 -!- JayDugger1 [~Jay_Dugge@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:49 -!- JayDugger [~Jay_Dugge@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:55 -!- streety [~Jonathan@host109-153-17-6.range109-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:02 < Utopiah> http://events.ccc.de/2010/07/30/27c3-we-come-in-%20peace-call-for-participation/ 03:09 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279558689.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:18 -!- streety [~Jonathan@host109-153-17-6.range109-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:25 -!- JayDugger [~Jay_Dugge@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:27 -!- JayDugger1 [~Jay_Dugge@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:49 -!- JayDugger1 [~Jay_Dugge@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:50 -!- JayDugger [~Jay_Dugge@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:56 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@70-36-134-77.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0] 05:07 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-71-232-51-121.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:21 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:56 -!- JayDugger1 [~Jay_Dugge@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:41 -!- streety [~Jonathan@host109-153-17-6.range109-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:25 -!- jmswatcher [~streety@li139-74.members.linode.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:49 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:53 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-71-232-51-121.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:02 -!- streety [~Jonathan@host109-153-17-6.range109-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:03 -!- Noahj [~noa@24.38.188.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:06 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:13 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:16 -!- Noahj [~noa@24.38.188.78] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:18 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:26 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:42 < kanzure> Alystair: pmetzger is in the nyc area 08:59 -!- Joeconyers [~Joe@ool-182fafef.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:05 -!- Joeconyers [~Joe@ool-182fafef.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:12 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:24 -!- vsrinivas [~me@rose.makesad.us] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:25 < kanzure> hi vsrinivas 10:29 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:14 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279558689.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:17 < kanzure> Alystair: pmetzger is in the nyc area 11:55 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 12:07 < Alystair> danke 14:08 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:24 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:34 < kanzure> genehacker: so it turns out i'm becoming the new manager of the gada prize 14:34 < kanzure> which means i'll get to fix the criteria 14:34 < kanzure> (i.e. the common complaints that everyone has about it) 14:55 < genehacker> what? 14:55 < genehacker> what do you mean fix? 14:56 < genehacker> eliminate the print without a computer criteria? 14:56 < genehacker> all those things can be done 14:57 < genehacker> it's just that print without a computer limits fluidic reprap's effectiveness 14:57 < genehacker> how did you become the new manager of the Gada Prize? 14:57 < genehacker> and could you set up an actual registration website for it? 14:58 < kanzure> yeah i'll setup some webpages for it when all the paperwork is done 14:58 < kanzure> "print without a computer" wasn't one of the complaints 14:59 < kanzure> i think the problematic parts are the things like "be able to print a 6-sided PCB in under 20 minutes" or whatever 15:00 < kanzure> http://www.foresight.org/gadaprize.php 15:00 < kanzure> uh i guess i'll also be fixing typos "# Demonstrate a build volume of the printer above 300x300x100mm in order to insure that items daily utility can be printed." 15:01 < kanzure> "# The capacity to print a full set of parts for a complete replica of itself within 10 days unattended save for clearing no more than one printer head jam." 15:01 < genehacker> 6 sided PCB in under 20 minutes where's that? 15:02 < kanzure> heh "# Software to drive and manage banks of RepRap printers" 15:02 < kanzure> genehacker: that was an exaggeration of a claim that i had previously heard.. let me go find some notes on this 15:02 < kanzure> "# Hardware and software systems to automatically unload printed parts from RepRap printers" wasn't this what the belt is for? 15:03 < genehacker> that was probably suggested by bowyer 15:04 < genehacker> the belt requires infinite tension to remain flat 15:04 < genehacker> or very larger amounts of tension 15:04 < genehacker> IE 10 kilonewtons 15:04 < kanzure> http://forums.reprap.org/list.php?171 15:05 < genehacker> which in american units is close to about 2 tons 15:05 < kanzure> http://objects.reprap.org/wiki/Gada_Prize 15:05 < genehacker> go tell #reprap 15:05 < kanzure> ew it's sebastien baillard telling everyone to use the reprap wiki 15:06 < kanzure> wtf is his problem 15:06 < genehacker> he wants people to actually document their work 15:06 < kanzure> that fact is unrelated to his insistence on using mediawiki 15:06 < kanzure> i think documentation is great too.. sure. 15:07 < genehacker> what's the problem with that? 15:07 < genehacker> anyway go tell #reprap 15:07 < kanzure> tell what to #reprap? 15:09 < genehacker> that you're managing the gada prize 15:09 < kanzure> i'm not though 15:09 < genehacker> they'll have plenty of suggestions 15:09 < genehacker> why? 15:09 < kanzure> i said specifically that it's in progress 15:09 < genehacker> what is? 15:09 < kanzure> me becoming the manager 15:10 < genehacker> how are you becoming the manager? 15:10 < kanzure> it involves some legal paperwork on their end i think 15:11 < genehacker> ok, but please, set up a registration system that's better than what sebastien has 15:11 < kanzure> agreed 15:11 < genehacker> afterall he is on one of the teams and he could be biased 15:11 < kanzure> he's on multiple teams 15:12 < genehacker> yeah I know 15:12 < kanzure> maybe they will all fuse into one giant team orgy 15:12 < kanzure> who knows 15:13 < kanzure> actually i should add that to the wiki page 15:13 < kanzure> "Team Orgy: bumraping all the participants" 15:13 < kanzure> (or something) 15:14 < genehacker> well one of the plans has been to donate the winnings to reprap foundation 15:14 < genehacker> to replace the stuff that was supposedly stolen by makerbot 15:14 < genehacker> or was that legit? I don't know 15:14 < kanzure> was there physical materials and stuff stolen? i didn't follow that fiasco too closely 15:14 < kanzure> fenn did iirc.. he'll probably correct the record later 15:15 < genehacker> well I know Bowyer is investing in Makerbot Industries 15:16 < kanzure> did you see pp3pd.com? 15:16 < genehacker> yes 15:16 < kanzure> pp3dp.com i mean 15:17 < genehacker> I know what you're talking about 15:17 < kanzure> i wonder what's with the elipsses in the giant "US$1500 Only!!.." 15:17 < genehacker> it's cheaper than any other "commercially made" 3d printers out there 15:18 < genehacker> also SLS printers are awesome when they work 15:18 < genehacker> but a little bit dirty to work with 15:21 < kanzure> i think this is him: Kartik Gada (408) 249-7896 3480 Granada Ave, Santa Clara, CA 95051-3478 15:25 < kanzure> oh, nevermind 15:25 < kanzure> wait, yes. he's just not with netgear anymore 15:29 < kanzure> http://www.reliancecapitalgroup.com/ well this doesn't look encouraging 15:30 < kanzure> oh this is it: http://reliancecp.com/ 15:30 < kanzure> okay, that's better 15:44 < kanzure> http://www.mmdnewswire.com/reliance-capital-partners-llc-closes-on-428-unit-apartment-portfolio-in-little-rock-ar-area-3891.html 15:44 < kanzure> "Debt financing was provided by One Bank and Trust for Willow Bend and Madison Realty Capital for St. John and Shorter College Gardens" 15:44 < kanzure> "Intrepid Management Inc. has been awarded the management contracts for the properties. Intrepid Management currently manages more than 1,800 units in the Southeast portion of the US." 15:44 < kanzure> so wait.. what did reliancecp.com do in this news article? 15:46 -!- shepazu [~schepers@adsl-242-206-38.rmo.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: shepazu] 15:50 < kanzure> a diagram of this business model: http://www.danter.com/taxcredit/lihtccht.htm 16:26 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:41 < fenn> i sure wouldnt invest in it 16:41 -!- shepazu [~schepers@rrcs-98-101-157-224.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:00 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:10 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-122-159.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:28 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-122-159.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:30 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-122-159.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:35 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:46 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 18:26 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:36 -!- genehacker_ [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-122-159.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:37 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-122-159.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:37 -!- genehacker_ is now known as genehacker 18:57 -!- shepazu [~schepers@rrcs-98-101-157-224.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: shepazu] 19:06 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:07 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:17 < kanzure> "who's afraid of synthetic biology?" an old pop mechanics article http://kelltrill.wordpress.com/2010/08/07/whos-afraid-of-synthetic-biology/ 19:19 < fenn> kanzure would you please powercycle either tub or davinci? 19:20 < kanzure> i'll check davinci on monday (i'm guessing the lab is locked on the weekends) 19:21 < kanzure> give tub a minute to re-tuberate but it should be good 19:24 < fenn> The German Ebola virus incident gives us a glimpse of this rapid-response future. The researcher who pricked her finger with the contaminated needle was probably saved by being injected with an experimental vaccine 40 hours after she was exposed to the virus. 19:24 < fenn> 19:25 < kanzure> andrew was telling me this story the other day: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TGN1412 19:26 < kanzure> "Originally intended for the treatment of B cell chronic lymphocytic leukemia (B-CLL) and rheumatoid arthritis,[1] it is a humanised monoclonal antibody that not only binds to, but is a strong agonist for, the CD28 receptor of the immune system's T cells.[2]" 19:26 < kanzure> "In its first human clinical trials in March 2006, it caused catastrophic systemic organ failure in the subjects, despite being administered at a supposed sub-clinical dose of 0.1 mg per kg; some 500 times lower than the dose found safe in animals.[3] Six volunteers were hospitalized on 13 March 2006, at least four of these suffering from multiple organ dysfunction, and one trial volunteer is said to show signs of developing cancer." 19:26 < kanzure> "systemic organ failure" 19:27 < kanzure> "The developing company, TeGenero Immuno Therapeutics, entered into insolvency proceedings later in 2006. Tentative opinions from an as-yet uncompleted inquiry suggest that the problems resulted from "unforeseen biological action in humans", rather than breach of trial protocols,".. well besides going straight from 0 humans to 6 humans 19:29 < kanzure> "The drug was given by intravenous infusion, starting at 8am, with an interval of around 10 minutes between patients, and each infusion lasting from 3 to 6 minutes.[15] Roughly five minutes after the last participant had received his dose, the participant who had received the first dose complained of headache, and soon afterwards fever and pain. He took his shirt off, complaining that he felt like he was burning. Shortly after, the remaining partici 19:33 < kanzure> "Until the expert group has reported, all further clinical trial applications involving first-in-humans trials of any monoclonal antibody or other novel molecules targeting the immune system will not be authorised in the UK." huh 19:48 < fenn> yes, but does it cure leukemia? 19:48 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-122-159.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:49 < fenn> ew, it turns you into 'elephant man' 19:49 < fenn> sounds like something out of an anime 19:49 < kanzure> yes we can cure you of cancer but there's a catch.. 19:50 < kanzure> the talk page for that article is fairly useful- for instance, the binding affinity simulations 19:52 < fenn> i don't get why they think testing antibodies targeted at human cell types would affect a rhesus monkey 19:53 < kanzure> standard procedure.. you test the monkeys anyway 19:54 < fenn> "an industry consultant, has suggested that because the antibody was raised against human CD28, the safe dosage may have been lower in humans than in animals" DUH 19:54 < kanzure> whenever anyone says "industry consultant" these days i immediately think of andrew 19:54 < kanzure> that's technically his job (in the oil industry) 19:54 < kanzure> i'm still laughing about "math with andrew hessel" 19:54 < kanzure> "andrew, what's the value of pi?" 19:55 < kanzure> "3 point 71... it'll work itself out, i don't worry about these things" 19:58 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:02 < fenn> so i still can't ssh to tub, perhaps you did nuke the firewall settings after all 20:03 < kanzure> checking 20:03 < kanzure> do you remember the ports you had mapped out? 20:03 -!- shepazu [~schepers@adsl-242-206-38.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:03 < fenn> 2286 -> 192.168.2?.86:22 20:06 < kanzure> no it's still there.. but maybe the wires were unplugged. is the ethernet port on your motherboard supposed to blink? 20:09 < fenn> i guess 20:09 < fenn> well, nevermind, i was just looking for a book i had 20:21 < kanzure> anyway i rebooted it so you should try it again 20:21 < fenn> nup 20:23 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:25 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:26 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:05 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:24 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 22:35 < kanzure> fenn: chris attended convergence08 apparently 22:35 < kanzure> oh chris is on the extropy-chat list.. that's how i know him 22:36 < kanzure> something about an extropian/seasteading-institute crossover reality 22:43 < kanzure> this guy has an interesting life-intersection coincidence factor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Herrick 22:43 < kanzure> especially with the demand media intersection and he attended convergence08 22:46 < fenn> what's demand media? 22:48 < kanzure> a massive 230M/year spamming machine.. of sorts 22:48 < fenn> sounds vaguely familiar.. was this the thing where you write custom crafted pages for people to put their ads on? 22:48 < kanzure> yes 22:48 -!- drazak [~ahdfadkfa@drazak.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:49 < fenn> lol i wonder if there's a corresponding "how to stalk better" article http://www.wikihow.com/Get-Rid-of-a-Stalker 22:49 < fenn> woah weird, TMS ad for depression on that page 22:49 < kanzure> nah you're probably just being tracked 22:49 < fenn> neurostarTMS.com 22:51 < fenn> i've never actually seen a targeted ad beyond obvious stuff like what i had just been searching for on amazon 22:51 -!- drazak [~ahdfadkfa@drazak.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:52 < fenn> i dont' think it's targeted, the other ads on the page are like "free sex offender report" "attend lollapalooza" "cooking recipes" 22:52 < fenn> "scientology today: the only major religion to emerge in the 20th century" 22:53 < uniqanomaly_> hopefully last one 22:53 < fenn> hum i guess i should try taking vitamin D and see if anything happens 22:57 < fenn> someone needs to make a on-demand custom pill service that combines all your stuff into one pill 22:58 < fenn> " irradiation by ultraviolet light increased the vitamin D content of foods and other organic materials.[19] After irradiating rodent food, Steenbock discovered that the rodents were cured of rickets." 23:02 -!- drazak [~ahdfadkfa@drazak.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:03 -!- drazak [~ahdfadkfa@drazak.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:04 < fenn> how do i get the POST data for a webpage? (so i can link to it, theoretically) 23:06 < fenn> wow, regular mushrooms: 8 IU vitamin D, exposed to UV: 461 IU 23:09 < fenn> damn these non-REST database interfaces 23:12 < fenn> wow eggnog contains 123 IU per serving 23:13 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:14 < kanzure> "how do i get the POST data for a web page" uh do you mean "how do i look at the form that i pressed submit on"? 23:14 < fenn> yeah 23:14 < kanzure> do you really need help with that 23:15 < fenn> i'm hoping there's an easier way than digging through the form's source code 23:15 < kanzure> that's always the easiest for me.. but there are extensions and plugins for various browsers for lazies 23:16 < fenn> wah 23:18 < genehacker> IU? 23:18 < fenn> i'm guessing this doesn't work because it's a GET not a POST? http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/cgi-bin/nut_search_new.pl?Keywords=portabella 23:19 < fenn> genehacker: some bullshit non-scalar unit 23:19 < kanzure> right 23:19 < kanzure> the only time that it might work is if it's some php shit and the author turned on register_globals :P 23:19 < fenn> so is there a way to link to a POST url? 23:19 < genehacker> blast 23:19 -!- drazak [~ahdfadkfa@drazak.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:19 -!- drazak [~ahdfadkfa@drazak.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:20 < genehacker> aren't there any airfoil profiles that are hard to make? 23:20 < fenn> i want to link to the usda database search result on wikipedia 23:27 < kanzure> you can use fancy javascript to make a link that does that 23:28 < kanzure> but wikipedia will block that sort of javascript functionality because it's uh, javascript 23:29 < kanzure> #hplusroadmap: kicking the crap out of your parent's chromosomes 23:35 < fenn> my chromosomes object 23:37 < fenn> Canadian Cancer Society "recommended that all adults begin taking 1,000 IU per day (five times more than the government says they need)" 23:39 < fenn> huh. shiitake contains 460 IU/g vs 5 IU/g for UV exposed white and 0.14 IU/g white mushrooms 23:40 < fenn> or 0.2IU/g according to the FDA 23:52 < genehacker> stealing stuff from boing boing kanzure? 23:52 < genehacker> I think that's one of their descriptions 23:53 < genehacker> along with the swapmeet for do it yourself cyborgs 23:54 < fenn> except boingboing is a blog (and a tv show, i guess) 23:54 < fenn> whereas theoretically we're doing stuff 23:55 * fenn procrastinates by reading "getting things done" 23:55 < fenn> it's so simple! http://mini.canasto.es/assets/gtd-workflow-xplane.jpg 23:58 < genehacker> dammit why does it seem that the only people researching kline fogleman are RC plane hobbyists? --- Log closed Sun Aug 08 00:00:17 2010