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02:15 < fenn> saw this girl in the audience at qs http://slimavocado.com/blog/2010/flight-mode-inflatable-sns/
02:46 < splicer> did you invoke the response?
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03:17 < fenn> no she was wearing the extimacy collar instead
03:18 < fenn> seth roberts appears randomly in my internet trawling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shangri-La_Diet
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04:27 < fenn> arrrg
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04:40 < splicer> not all that different from kurzweils longevity business: http://www.rayandterry.com/index.asp
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07:04 < kanzure> fenn: yeah, randal's teleplace meeting is windows-only or something. telexlr8 or something
07:06 < kanzure> "David's work background includes military service in the Parachute Regiment, from which position he also went on to be trained as a Combat Medical Technician (CMT), which has provided some transferrable skills for his later work in cryonics emergency service provision."
07:06 < kanzure> (david styles)
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07:22 < eridu> has anyone participated in an AI-box experiment?
07:22 < eridu> in this channel?
07:22 < eridu> has anyone in this channel participated in an AI-box experiment?
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07:26 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone
07:31 < kanzure> hi JayDugger 
07:37 < JayDugger> On vacation, not dead--just babysitting.
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08:06 < kanzure> they are at it again.. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_and_White_Versions
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08:35 < kanzure> public domain mark http://labs.creativecommons.org/demos/pd/
08:35 < kanzure> about it: http://scienceblogs.com/commonknowledge/2010/08/i_am_cribbing_significant_amou.php
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08:54 < kanzure> hi panax 
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08:55 < panax> hi
08:56 < Lentur> hi
08:58 < Lentur> Does somebody know if this upcoming Singu-Summit will be livestreamed and if so can you give me the address?
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09:01 < kanzure> hi lentur
09:01 < kanzure> i haven't heard yet if it will be streamed or not
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09:03 < Lentur> hi, someone said the last two were, so I presume that this one will be too
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09:06 < dbolser> hi
09:06 < dbolser> can anyone help with this: http://bifx.pastebin.com/yecReDAa
09:07 < dbolser> don't know much about brain anatomy / terminology
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09:16 < kanzure> hi dbolser 
09:20 < kanzure> the first thing that worries me is this
09:20 < kanzure> "Values for regional cerebral blood flow measured with 15 mu radioactive microspheres were used to compute regional cerebral vascular resistance (rCBR)"
09:20 < kanzure> however, i would expect the acronym for "regional cerebral vascular resistance" to be rCVR not rCBR
09:22 < kanzure> you'd have to look at the paper to see if they clarify what they are plotting with the microspheres
09:27 < dbolser> kanzure: right
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09:44 < kanzure> i don't know if anyone wants to do me a favor but voting for me would be hot
09:45 < kanzure> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/humanityplusvote/
09:45 < kanzure> oh, the poll isn't up yet
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09:54 < kanzure> "# Open CASCADE Technology releases (versions 5.0 to 5.2.4) - documentation engineer (as a member of Open CASCADE Technology Maintenance and Support Team - 10 persons). "
09:54 < kanzure> 10 people? that's a little hard to believe
09:55 < kanzure> that was from http://www.docennt.narod.ru/cv_eng.html
09:55 < kanzure> sales team is 4 people. hehe
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10:02 < dbolser> kanzure: vote on what now?
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10:03 < kanzure> hm..
10:03 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DoceNNt/OPEN_CASCADE
10:03 < kanzure> dbolser: i'm running for the board of humanity+
10:03 < dbolser> cool
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10:04 < kanzure> "OPEN CASCADE is a subsidiary of EURIWARE, which is a subsidiary of the AREVA group. EURIWARE employs 2,250 people."
10:04 < dbolser> what is the link to humanity+ ?
10:05 < kanzure> case study of opencascade as a business: http://www.ebusiness-watch.org/studies/case_studies/documents/Case%20Studies%202005/CS_SR10_IT-services_4-Open_Cascade.pdf
10:05 < kanzure> dbolser: http://humanityplus.org/
10:05 < kanzure> it's the world transhumanist association.
10:06 < dbolser> I meant, what links OPEN_CASCADE and http://humanityplus.org/
10:06 < dbolser> sorry, just confused
10:06 < dbolser> these are parallel but unrelated threads?
10:06 < dbolser> Voting for the interim Board elections will start Aug 13 - OK
10:12 < kanzure> "In the first year after becoming a services company, Open Cascade S.A. applied a truly open model for further development of the Open Cascade platform."
10:12 < kanzure> yes these are parallel threads :)
10:12 < kanzure> "Everyone who wanted to could participate. But, according to Mr. Rochon, this approach resulted in several difficulties: It turned out that the communication process - necessary to make programmers familiar with the software and the problems approached - was extremely time consuming."
10:13 < kanzure> "In the worst case, programmers lost their interest after a long time of discussing the project and disappeared." In addition, the quality of the code delivered was often not convincing. These were both unacceptable situations in light of the critical projects Open Cascade S.A. supports on behalf of its large clients."
10:13 < kanzure> bahah the code was of unacceptable quality?
10:13 < kanzure> REALLY?
10:14 < kanzure> has that guy even /attempted/ to read opencascade source code?
10:15 < kanzure> (those comments from michel rochon were from 2005-01-26)
10:16 < dbolser> sounds like they need to brush up on some open source project management strategies
10:16 < dbolser> mind you, bioperl and gbrowse are a nightmare
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10:49 < kanzure> fenn: didn't you say pythonCAD was closed source or something?
10:49 < kanzure> http://www.pythonizer.org/pythoncascade/download.html
10:49 < kanzure> er, pythonCASCADE
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12:42 < kanzure> Utopiah: what cities are you near?
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12:58 < Utopiah> right now: Dinard
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13:20 < splicer> wikipedia publish their article traffic: http://stats.grok.se/en/201008/Biopunk
13:24 < kanzure> "Giorgio Scorzelli (Rome, Italy) is third and received a selection of fine wines from the major wine-producing areas of France for his prototype project that adds MzScheme (a variant of LISP) as a functional language to the Open CASCADE geometric kernel."
13:24 < genehacker> wine for opensource software? neat
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13:25 < kanzure> i think they meant the drink, not wine
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13:52 < ybit> someone, quick, update my on what i've missed the past week or so :)
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14:38 < ENKI-][> kanzure: i have an arduino and a single pushbutton switch, and i need an input device for a wearable, but i don't know morse code. any ideas?
14:39 < ENKI-][> i was considering eeg, but i don't think learning to use an eeg-based keyboard would be easier than learning morse code
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14:44 < cluckj> ENKI-][, it would be cooler
14:46 < ENKI-][> cluckj: true.
14:49 < fenn> lol nolan bushnell is going to be staying in my burning man camp
14:50 < ENKI-][> well, if i can fix any of the five or six wiimote link libraries that were broken by recent changes in the bluez codebase i'll probably just use the wiimote
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14:55 < fenn> wminput works on karmic (if you dont mind lame sensor fusion)
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15:09  * fenn watches the diybio thread on PCR machine design recapitulate ontogeny
15:17 < fenn> "lab armor": $2k for a heated bucket full of metal beads?
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15:51 < genehacker> huh?
15:51 < genehacker> why would you want to increase the thermal mass like that?
15:57 < ybit_> who here works full-time at some company?
15:58 < fenn> aluminum actually has a lower thermal mass than water
15:58 < fenn> water has one of (the?) highest specific thermal mass
15:59 < fenn> ybit_: what sort of question is that?
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17:25 < kanzure> wow, what?
17:25 < ybit_> hrm?
17:25 < ybit_> fenn: a question of some sort
17:25 < kanzure> "For now, pythonOCC does leave me an out.They plan to sell a more permissive license. This means that someone who wants to make closed source software based off of CADDD will have to send money to pythonOCC."
17:26 < ybit_> earlier, i was trying to figure out how someone could possibly work 40hrs/week and still have time for anything else
17:26 < ybit_> when i work that much, i only feel like sleeping and eating during my spare time
17:27 < ybit_> and reading emails or sending the occassional email
17:27 < ybit_> toss in a significant other and you are screwed
17:27 < ybit_> but i was hoping someone knew something i didn't after having lived that lifestyle for sometime
17:28 < kanzure> have you tried being a better person?
17:28 < ybit_> yeah, that makes no sense :)
17:28 < kanzure> :P
17:29 < ybit_> basically i have a job offer in boston, but i'd be working full-time and saving very little. if things go over well, i can work part-time and spend the rest of my time on whatever i want 
17:29 < ybit_> if things go over well *here*
17:29 < kanzure> "saving very little" is the pay terrible or are you just not accustomed to living in a closet in a boston flat?
17:30 < ybit_> no, i'd be living in a commune saving money
17:30 < ybit_> s/i'd/that'd
17:30 < kanzure> sounds like it's a pretty bad deal
17:30 < kanzure> is the job something relevant to your interests?
17:31 < ybit_> it doesn't pay well, but it would get me out there, and apparently i know people who know people but who want to see that i'm staying out there for a good while
17:31 < ybit_> it's basic electronic work
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17:31 < kanzure> a pcb shop or electrician consulting?
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17:32 < ybit_> i dunno, it's through some temp agency
17:32 < ybit_> requires soldering and assembly, which if i have an mp3 player,  i can do this stuff for hours
17:32 < ybit_> without feeling tired
17:33 < ybit_> hi augur 
17:33 < augur> hello.
17:34 < ybit_> that looks like an alabama ip
17:34 < ybit_> but i think it's miami
17:34 < ybit_> fl = florida, yeah...
17:34 < ybit_> i was thinking florence :)
17:35 < kanzure> ybit_: you should become the thingiverse code monkey.
17:35 < kanzure> they are looking to hire someone to do web and thingiverse dev
17:36 < ybit_> yeah, i had a job offer for internet backend stuff, but i just don't have the experience. figure if i get out there, work full-time and on my spare time code like hell, i might find a decent coding job
17:36 < ybit_> my experience is working as a cashier, doing census, reference librarian, nothing related to internet anything
17:36 < ybit_> i tinker, but i have nothing to show for :|
17:38 < ybit_> and i don't see how anything like what marcin is doing is going to translate immediately into being able to work part-time in a major urban area where prices are much higher
17:39 < ybit_> the fablab, diybio group, BUILDS, and smart girls are appealing though
17:40 < ybit_> fablabs*
17:43 < QuantumG> "fablab" sounds like a fashion house for gay men.
17:44 < ybit_> :P
17:44 < QuantumG> "found out what's fabulous at fablab!"
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18:27 < kanzure> QuantumG: you should go tweet that ASAP
18:33 < fenn> yeah nobody's ever thought that before~
18:34 < fenn> ybit_: most people seem to do emails and whatnot while at work
18:35 < fenn> i could be a thingiverse code monkey, but do i want to?
18:36 < fenn> marcin's system is literally too massive to work in a city where people move around all the time
18:37 < fenn> you can't just start building anywhere you please either
18:38 < fenn> ybit_: do you have any standing obligations in alabama? i.e. can you just try out boston for a couple months and see if you like it?
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18:44 < ybit_> fenn: well, there's tweak labs, but i'm sure it would last without me for a little while. it would be neat to try it out, but i don't feel like wasting my time, i have this feeling this would put a delay on me saving money while working here
18:45 < ybit_> though it would be nice to live there momentarily
18:46 < ybit_> i suppose nothing is keeping me from going since most decent jobs take awhile to be filled here, in the spring, the toyota factory will probably be rehiring if i happen to come back
18:46 < ybit_> they pay ~$40k starting out which is decent with the low cost of living here
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19:09 < kanzure> "In addition to its Catia V5 and UG NX, Datakit developed and proposes a new SolidWorks to Open CASCADE convertor. "
19:10 < kanzure> http://www.opencascade.org/support/complementary_components/solidworks_import/
19:10 < kanzure> i wonder if this is just a dll plugin though
19:11 < fenn> does opencascade even have its own format?
19:11 < fenn> somethin about .brep
19:12 < kanzure> yep.
19:12 < kanzure> that's basically it
19:12 < fenn> well that's basically STEP anyway
19:13 < kanzure> not really
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19:14 < kanzure> it turns out that STEP doesn't directly store brep data
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20:15 < kanzure> what's with the root worship? http://www.digital-network.net/images/img_home.jpg
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21:17 < kanzure>  CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@cvs.opencascade.com:/www/cvs cvs login
21:17 < kanzure> Logging in to :pserver:anonymous@cvs.opencascade.com:2401/www/cvs
21:17 < kanzure> CVS password: 
21:17 < kanzure> cvs [login aborted]: unrecognized auth response from cvs.opencascade.com: cvs [pserver aborted]: /www/cvs: no such repository
21:17 < kanzure> am i doing this wrong?
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21:19 < kanzure> oh, it gives that response even if you have the wrong password
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22:55 < kanzure> http://mndoci.com/2010/08/08/data-geeks-and-biology/
22:55 < kanzure> http://digitalbiologist.com/
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23:05 < kanzure> 	249 points by rahulvohra 1 day ago | 86 comments
23:05 < kanzure> ""10,000+ users in 24 hours & YC funding a few days later: lessons learnt 
23:06 < kanzure> er, it's a rapportive article and my copypaste sucks
23:23 < kanzure> "However, on the "already happened" front, in 1997 Ticketmaster sued Microsoft just for linking to content on its website"
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23:28 < kanzure> "World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimization."
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23:52 < splicer> we haven't come that far since 1997, last year pirate bay got convicted for linking to copyrighted material.
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