--- Log opened Fri Aug 27 00:00:17 2010 00:20 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@70-36-134-77.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:54 -!- streety [~s0678364@cpat001.wlan.net.ed.ac.uk] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:15 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@pd95b50af.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:23 < fenn> kanzure: ehm, yeah that's not gonna happen 01:24 -!- streety [~s0678364@cpat001.wlan.net.ed.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:26 -!- ferrouswheel [~joel@121-98-81-17.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:28 < fenn> i'm going to be out of contact with civilization until september 7 01:39 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:40 -!- ferrouswheel [~joel@121-98-81-17.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:57 < kanzure> fenn: you should send them an email explaining that. i don't think they will accept that answer :( 02:06 -!- ferrouswheel [~joel@121-98-81-17.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:16 < fenn> sorry, what? i've been planning on this for like 6 months, sorry if they want to spring some phone call on me randomly 02:18 < kanzure> why am i awake 02:18 < fenn> it's 4 am in texas 02:18 < kanzure> yes that's right 02:19 < kanzure> i'll try to find a way to make this work without brownell/dave getting you on a phone 02:19 -!- ferrouswheel [~joel@121-98-81-17.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:19 < fenn> hum i guess i should read that transcript 02:20 < kanzure> it wasn't particularly enlightening.. just a quick scan maybe 02:20 < kanzure> todd says go with these guys, absolutely 02:20 < kanzure> dave isn't convinced at all and thinks they are a waste of time 02:21 < kanzure> s/just a/just give it a/ 03:13 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:47 -!- Phreedom_ [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:48 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping 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ghchinoy ] [ katsmeow ] [ niftyzero ] [ saurik ] 07:03 [ davemenninger] [ gnusha ] [ killall-9 ] [ nima ] [ shepazu ] 07:03 -!- Irssi: #hplusroadmap: Total of 45 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 45 normal] 07:03 -!- Channel #hplusroadmap created Fri Jan 29 23:48:24 2010 07:03 -!- Irssi: Join to #hplusroadmap was synced in 2 secs 07:09 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@131.252.130.248] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:12 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:43 -!- katsmeow is now known as katsmeow-afk 07:58 -!- panax [panax@goldstandard.eng.usf.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:32 < ENKI-][> kanzure: do you know of a quick-and-dirty design for a really high power maser offhand? 08:47 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:53 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@pd95b50af.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:57 -!- klafka [~klafka@129.21.68.128] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 09:06 -!- patrik 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http://www.awg.musin.de/comenius/4_2_Leibniz_schrift.jpg 12:08 -!- thesnark [~michael@adsl-69-214-158-152.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:08 < thesnark> Hi all 12:17 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@business-213-023-057-067.static.arcor-ip.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:38 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:43 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:43 < kanzure> hello thesnark 12:46 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:49 < Noahj> Nope, that 23video link is all that I've seen so far 12:50 < Noahj> There was a DIYBio talk, but it either wasn't recorded, hasn't been posted, or I'm bad at finding stuff 12:51 < Noahj> Ron Weiss gave what appears to be his standard talk 12:52 < Noahj> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2010003542911577166# here it is, if you haven't seen it already 12:56 < Noahj> Someone also implemented first-order logic in biology 13:17 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:25 -!- klafka [~klafka@129.21.68.128] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:46 -!- klafka [~klafka@129.21.70.25] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:55 -!- klafka [~klafka@129.21.70.25] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:20 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 14:42 < kanzure> "By analogy to Kolmogorov complexity, any cyber-physical system has a minimum-complexity design that delivers an equivalent capability." 14:45 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:47 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:17 -!- panax [panax@goldstandard.eng.usf.edu] has quit [Quit: got root?] 15:20 -!- augur [~augur@208-58-6-161.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:26 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has 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kanzure: I figure it's right up your alley 17:48 < kanzure> drazak: that's more ybit than me, actually 17:48 < kanzure> ybit: you around? 17:49 < kanzure> drazak: whereas i'd just like to get rid of money entirely. 18:11 -!- augur [~augur@208-58-6-161.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:11 -!- augur [~augur@208-58-6-161.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:28 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:29 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:05 < Noahj> I suspect brains have a pretty darn high Kolmogorov complexity 19:06 < Noahj> Er, minds, I guess? 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