--- Log opened Wed Sep 08 00:00:17 2010
00:10 < joshcryer> The memristor nanoimprint device is the size of a fridge.
00:10 < joshcryer> Making me think "OK I CAN BUILD THAT."
00:10 < joshcryer> They're making these things in labs. :O
00:11 < joshcryer> I mean, school labs.
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01:15 < joshcryer> http://www.wiley-vch.de/berlin/journals/op/10-02/OP0210_S42-45.pdf
01:16 < joshcryer> Need to find docs on this nanoprint technology.
01:16 < joshcryer> From what I gathered memristors are really simple so the technology is ideal.
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03:04 < phryk> On Sept. 23rd I'll get my implant :)
03:35 < jmil> kanzure jrayhawk i cc'ed you on some diyhpl.us git reprap stuff, lemme know what you think either by email or via irc. thx, g'nite
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04:25 < jrayhawk> If people just want to be able to grab whole directories, we can maintain a checkout in a place where an rsyncd and/or httpd can serve it up.
04:26 < jrayhawk> Though git submodules are still a much less awful plan.
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05:19 < kanzure> does anyone want the domain 'fabuntu.com'?
05:49 < jrayhawk> is that ubuntu with a particularly pastel purple theme
05:49 < jrayhawk> oh wait, that's normal ubuntu
06:08 < kanzure> i was thinking fab+ubuntu
06:09 < kanzure> as in fabrication
06:09 < kanzure> but fabulous/gay might be another way to look at it.. :/
06:21 < kanzure> matt couldn't figure out how to make git clone http://git.gitorious.org/qhull/qhull.git work
06:21 < kanzure> so he asked me to zip it up and email it
06:21 < kanzure> http://www.qhull.org/
06:21 < kanzure> he's benchmarking his convex hull finder http://miconvexhull.codeplex.com/
06:24 < jrayhawk> the sad part about that is
06:24 < jrayhawk> http://gitorious.org/qhull/qhull/archive-tarball/master
06:28 < kanzure> ldfkjkadlafjkad
06:38 < kanzure> hg clone https://hg01.codeplex.com/miconvexhull
06:38 < JayDugger> "ldfkjkadlafjkad" you say? Evocative, but vague.
06:40 < JayDugger> What sort of OpenGL aid do you seek?
06:41 < kanzure> JayDugger: i can't get my projection/camera/viewing/modeling/viewport matrices right
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07:53 < kanzure> hi glytch 
07:54 < kanzure> also, bbl
07:54 < glytch> hello again
07:54 < glytch> :) ok
08:02 < glytch> *installs lots of python libs by hand for skdb*   didn't realize how much i had come to like ruby's gem system until now
08:02 < kanzure> JayDugger: i can't get my projection/camera/viewing/modeling/viewport matrices right
08:02 < kanzure> crap
08:02 < kanzure> easy_install
08:02 < kanzure> glytch: there's really no reason for you to be doing this for skdb right now
08:03 < kanzure> there's not much value you can extract from the library
08:03 < kanzure> also apparently i'm not gone yet
08:03 < kanzure> if you insist on installing it, i'll of course help with whatever issues you run into.. but still :)
08:03 < glytch> kanzure, why is there not much value? the code just not there yet or there isn't much hardware in the db?
08:04 < kanzure> both :)
08:04 < glytch> either way, there's really only one way to fix it
08:04 < kanzure> one of the major dependencies is opencascade, but there's no real reason we need a dependency on opencascade
08:07 < glytch> heh, i'm only on the second python dependency and i already wanna rewrite it in ruby so i can use the gems system 
08:08 < glytch> does python have something like that i don't know about?
08:08 < kanzure> easy_install
08:09 < kanzure> or you can continue to hit yourself over the head :)
08:10 < glytch> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pip  :)
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08:10 < glytch> oh, when you said easy_install earlier i didn't know what you mean, looking it up
08:10 < kanzure> btw git clone git://diyhpl.us/skdb.git for a more recent version
08:10 < kanzure> i haven't pushed to github in a while
08:11 < glytch> ... should definitely pick one or the other there, and add the other as a commit hook if you wanna have both
08:12 < kanzure> adl.serveftp.org/skdb.git was where it was happening for a while
08:12 < kanzure> but obviously that server is dead
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11:16 < jmil> LOVE this one:
11:16 < jmil> http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/theo_jansen_creates_new_creatures.html
11:20 < dustbin> ah ya theo jansen's stuff is pretty cool
11:25 < kanzure> jmil: the box2d library has an example of soem theo jansen mechanisms in a physics simulator
11:26 < kanzure> actually, fantasticcontraption.com is based on box2d (except some weird flash version)
11:27 < kanzure> heyy kickstarter featured biocurious in their newsletter
11:28 < kanzure> $17k pledged out of $30k target.. eh
11:37 < kanzure> anywho, i'm back from the meeting.. looks like i'm gearing up to be a defense contractor :)
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12:10 < kanzure> "you agree to agree to sign .." oh man
12:12 < bkero> You sign bad things :(
12:23 < kanzure> nobody said i've signed it
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14:03 < kanzure> `the strategy here is like for perl, "there's more than one way to do it". almost every desired workflow should be possible...`
14:03 < kanzure> who the hell let these people be in charge of reprap.org?
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14:08 < kanzure> holy crap jordan wrote that comment
14:23 < jmil> what comment?
14:23 < jmil> kanzure: ??
14:24 < jmil> anyone.... anyone.... bueller?
14:24 < kanzure> 13:59 < kanzure> `the strategy here is like for perl, "there's more than one way to do it". almost every desired workflow should be possible...`
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14:25 < jmil> you disagree?
14:26 < kanzure> so dramatically that i actually placed a hit on you
14:26 < jmil> lol
14:26 < jmil> i already killed the ninja, you gotta send more than that
14:27 < jmil> we start with gentle appeasement to lock everyone into git
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14:27 < jmil> then everyone will be on master branch
14:27 < jmil> then we'll be all good
14:27 < jmil> dozens of copies of the entire reprap repo all over the world
14:27 < kanzure> explain to me why using git the right way is a bad idea
14:27 < kanzure> like with people keeping their own repositories
14:28 < jmil> there are reasons you'd want your own branch vs. reasons you'd want in your user folder
14:28 < kanzure> and not a giant shared users/ dir
14:28 < jmil> d) all of the above
14:28 < jmil> maybe i hate adrian's mendel, and i want one i call Bendel at the root level. i can do that if i put it in my own git branch
14:28 < jmil> so there's no reason to prohibit git branches
14:29 < jmil> but as i said ideally everyone in their own users/ dir
14:29 < jmil> then changes get promoted to main root folder
14:29 < jmil> by Adrian
14:29 < jmil> then no one can get pissed off --- although i realize these are famous last words LOL
14:30 < jmil> when you force everyone to do things only one way, it slows adoption
14:30 < kanzure> you don't want 100% adoption of a pile of shit
14:30 < jmil> really though, the way i am proposing has the lowest overhead and headaches. eventually people will get used to committing to master
14:30 < jmil> kanzure: what?
14:30 < jmil> you hate git branches?
14:30 < kanzure> users/ isn't a branch
14:30 < jmil> maybe you should call me
14:31 < kanzure> huh?
14:31 < jmil> i know it's not a branch
14:31 < kanzure> i'd be happy to call btw
14:31 < jmil> that's what i said, i *prefer* everyone to commit to master branch in their users folder
14:31 < kanzure> have been meaning to in general
14:31 < jmil> i don't understand your objections then
14:32 < jmil> trust me though, no ones going to want to be branching and merging all the time, especially users coming from SVN
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14:32 < jmil> there's almost zero reason to ever commit to anything besides master branch
14:33 < jmil> that's what i've been (gently) pointing the way towards, funneling people towards
14:33 < kanzure> actually, this is a good reason to force me to do another important phone call
14:33 < kanzure> so gimme 20min or something
14:33 < jmil> ok. bring on the ninjas
14:34 < jmil> reprap peeps have huge egos. that's always been their fatal flaw. they will lambast every "recommended" way to do things. If we let them do things any way they want, they are still busy people, they will eventually figure out that our recommended way is recommended because it's actually the best way
14:35 < jmil> and the most efficient, most seamless, and most flexible
14:35 < jmil> but they really have to come to that conclusion on their own
14:35 < jmil> trust me
14:35 < kanzure> and why do you want to put up with that?
14:35 < kanzure> just fork it
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14:35 < jmil> i hate forks
14:35 < jmil> knives and spoons are not so great either
14:36 < jmil> i hate having to browse each individual users fork and do git merges and do conflict resolution because no one else has the time or inclination to do them
14:36 < jmil> so i always end up doing it
14:36 < jmil> it's all there, in Linus' philosophy for git
14:36 < jmil> "I organize it such that it is the least amount of work for me"
14:37 < jmil> that ends up being the least amount of work for everyone, actually
14:37 < jmil> the *only* reason to fork is if you think there is any chance of conflicting commits
14:38 < jmil> for reprap, there really won't be
14:38 < jmil> there never have been because everyone is used to SVN anyway
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14:49 < kanzure> jmil: :P
14:50 < kanzure> jmil: technically we don't have to talk *now*
14:50 < jmil> sorry dude crazy times here
14:50 < jmil> now is good
14:51 < jmil> just gimme 10 min
14:51 < jmil> it will help me
14:51 < jmil> :-)
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15:27 < kanzure> hi epitron_ 
15:27 < epitron_> sup
15:31 < ybit> kanzure: mind if i crawl diyhpl.us?
15:36 < ybit> meh, i'll just use something like digg or slashdot
15:38 < kanzure> diyhpl.us just has /irc/ and /screenshots/
15:39 < kanzure> and /wiki but don't crawl that.. just clone it
15:43 < ybit> alright, i won't do anything with it
15:44 < kanzure> git clone git://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki.git
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15:53 < kanzure> hi ferrouswheel 
15:53 < kanzure> ben and natasha are unavailable, but i need to talk with someone on the board, any ideas?
15:54 < kanzure> who has been there for more than a week
15:54 < kanzure> oh i guess todd is around
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16:14 < kanzure> http://www.sycode.com/publications/books/opencad/ "a step-by-step guide to writing a cad application" hah
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17:44 < kanzure> http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/showciting;jsessionid=92A86443B7FFB578DDC4FCA5BC4E565E?cid=1084952
17:45 < kanzure> HML, a novel hardware description language and its translation to VHDL
17:45 < kanzure> and: Transformational System Design Based on a Formal Computational Model and Skeletons http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.22.7610
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18:44 < ybit> how'd the board elections go?
18:58 < dustbin> kanzure: got anything for me to work on yet?
19:11 < kanzure> "let's not create a solution that requires all git users to become comfortable at a Unix shell prompt"
19:11 < kanzure> god this keeps getting worse
19:11 < epitron> hahaha
19:11 < epitron> why don't you just let people who are scared of commandlines download tarballs from gitweb
19:12 < epitron> admittedly though, git is pretty unfriendly
19:12 < epitron> it took me a while to get proficient at it
19:12 < kanzure> your mom is unfriendly too but you don't hear me talking about replacing her do you?
19:12 < kanzure> :P kidding
19:12 < epitron> whoa
19:12 < epitron> someone's cranky
19:12 < kanzure> i just don't know why we have to accept that reprap.org devs have to be a nubch of tards
19:12 < kanzure> *bunch
19:13 < kanzure> nubch is from an old C library i guess
19:13 < epitron> they're not tards
19:13 < epitron> git is painful
19:13 < QuantumG> she's proficient too :P
19:13 < kanzure> um, look, "basic proficiency at the shell" isn't some godlike superpower
19:13 < epitron> i'm not talking about shell proficiency
19:13 < kanzure> well, they were
19:13 < kanzure> "users to become comfortable at a Unix shell prompt"
19:13 < epitron> good for them :)
19:13 < kanzure> then what are you talking about and why?
19:14 < epitron> i'm just saying that git is unfriendly
19:14 < epitron> it's probably not the best choice for people who aren't software developers
19:14 < QuantumG> git isn't the best choice for people are software developers
19:14 < epitron> there are other distributed version control systems
19:14 < kanzure> missing a word G :)
19:14 < epitron> mercurial is apparently less painful
19:14 < epitron> never tried it myself
19:15 < kanzure> epitron: did you read the earlier statements i was lamenting? from the same reprap.org devs
19:15 < epitron> there's also fossil, which gets rid of the distributed part
19:15 < QuantumG> bzr is actually usable
19:15 < epitron> kanzure: no, sorry...
19:15 < QuantumG> it's not "blazing fast" like git
19:15 < epitron> never tried bzr
19:15 < QuantumG> but it has an understandable cmd line interface
19:15 < kanzure> epitron: yeah this is getting pretty epic ;)
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19:15 < QuantumG> of course, if you use it you're stupid and ugly like cvs users
19:15 < epitron> kanzure: focus on the signal, block out the noise :)
19:16 < epitron> CVS users never get laid
19:16 < QuantumG> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8
19:16 < epitron> it's a FACT
19:16 < epitron> hahah
19:16 < epitron> i love this talk
19:16 < epitron> he's so cranky
19:16 < QuantumG> only cause he disses people to their face
19:17 < epitron> "a version control system that's expressly designed to make you feel less intelligent than you thought you were"
19:17 < epitron> that's a great slogan
19:18 < kanzure> `the strategy here is like for perl, "there's more than one way to do it". almost every desired workflow should be possible...`
19:18 < epitron> fuck that :)
19:18 < kanzure> see what i mean
19:18 < kanzure> it gets worse :(
19:18 < kanzure> they have individual developers
19:18 < epitron> that's noise
19:18 < kanzure> committing shit to users/username/ in the main branch
19:18 < kanzure> for "their work"
19:19 < epitron> yep
19:19 < epitron> that's a common git usage pattern amongst noobs
19:19 < kanzure> it's common amongst your *face*
19:19 < kanzure> *grumble grumble*
19:19 < QuantumG> I wish I could get svn users to use /branches/username/branchname
19:19  * kanzure goes off to watch "despicable me"
19:19 < kanzure> dustbin: i'll get you some stuff soon, i triple promise
19:20 < QuantumG> and /branches/qa/branchname instead of /branches/qa_branchname
19:21 < QuantumG> one of the nice things at my company is that we have people who do the merges for us.
19:21 < QuantumG> we have automated tools that test branches
19:22 < QuantumG> and do comparisons
19:22 < kanzure> aw crap i fell into a time warp.. it's not time yet
19:22 < epitron> ahahh
19:22 < kanzure> anywho
19:22 < epitron> that's funny
19:22 < epitron> MERGEMASTER
19:22 < epitron> is that his only job?
19:23 < kanzure> mergemaster vs. bugmaster: YOU DECIDE 2010
19:23 < QuantumG> nah.. and his job is more like "build engineer" in other companies.. he puts together the release candidates
19:24 < QuantumG> we push stuff from our private branches to "work" branches that he cherrypicks to make new QA branches.. that get tested and tested to become production branches.
19:24 < kanzure> svn?
19:24 < QuantumG> yep
19:24 < QuantumG> subversion
19:25 < kanzure> just checking.
19:25 < kanzure> dustbin: i need a name for this repository / project
19:25 < kanzure> "pystep" is awful
19:25 < kanzure> epitron: you like epic names, right? get me something good
19:26 < QuantumG> dah, "slither"
19:26 < QuantumG> that's how pythons step
19:26 < kanzure> for a parametric python-based CAD kernel that doesn't suck as much as opencascade
19:26 < kanzure> slither :)
19:26 < kanzure> i should be asking #python i guess
19:26 < dustbin> hmm should be something relating to monty python
19:27 < kanzure> department of slithering walks? >>
19:28 < dustbin> python was named for monty python and they encourage things along those lines so maybe something like that?
19:28 < epitron> kanzure: i'm not very good at coming up with names
19:28 < kanzure> < dpn`> loeoetl =  10303-21
19:28 < epitron> i always name things <something>-o-matic
19:28 < epitron> or <something>tron9000
19:28 < kanzure> cadomatic9000
19:28 < epitron> Mr. <Something>
19:33 < kanzure> well that was useless. they suggested "stroganoff"
19:33 < kanzure> also they pointed out pystep (the name i've been using so far) is taken: http://pystep.sourceforge.net/
19:34 < kanzure> supercad9000?
19:34 < epitron> remove the py
19:34 < epitron> nobody cares what that shit is written in unless they wanna modify it
19:34 < epitron>   30 Moby Thesaurus words for "cad":
19:34 < epitron>      Babbitt, Philistine, arriviste, boor, bounder, bourgeois, churl,
19:34 < epitron>      clown, epicier, groundling, guttersnipe, hooligan, ill-bred fellow,
19:34 < epitron>      looby, lout, low fellow, mucker, nouveau riche, parvenu, peasant,
19:34 < epitron>      ribald, rotter, rough, roughneck, rowdy, ruffian, upstart,
19:34 < epitron>      vulgarian, vulgarist, yokel
19:35 < kanzure> O_o
19:35 < epitron> churl!
19:35 < epitron> ruffian!
19:35 < epitron> ribald!
19:35 < epitron> lout!
19:35 < kanzure> AutoCAD has an awful name
19:35 < epitron> lout sounds great
19:35 < epitron> it rolls off the tongue
19:35 < kanzure> CATIA too
19:35 < epitron> unconstructive brainstorming input
19:35 < epitron> focus
19:36 < kanzure> (09:32:19 PM) Russell Hanson: Run Chrome with " --enable-webgl" to enable WebGL (Javascript api to OpenGL ES in the browser) http://slides.html5rocks.com/#slide25
19:36 < kanzure> oh, focus, right, uh
19:36 < epitron> you can also run chrome with gpu acceleration
19:36 < kanzure> orly
19:36 < epitron> i think LOUT sounds good though
19:36 < epitron> CAD things tend to be big and beefy and burly
19:36 < epitron> it works :)
19:36 < kanzure> tinycad
19:37 < epitron> that's not bad actually
19:37 < kanzure> http://tinycad.sf.net/ arrrgh
19:37 < kanzure> "TinyCAD is an open source schematic capture program for MS Windows. Use TinyCAD to produce professional circuit diagrams and export net list information to PCB applications. "
19:37 < kanzure> how is this tiny
19:37 < kanzure> ReallyTinyCAD
19:38 < epitron>   62 Moby Thesaurus words for "tiny":
19:38 < epitron>      Lilliputian, bantam, bitsy, bitty, cursory, dainty, delicate,
19:38 < epitron>      depthless, diminutive, dwarf, dwarfish, elfin, few, fine, footling,
19:38 < epitron>      inconsequential, inconsiderable, infinitesimal, insignificant,
19:38 < epitron>      itsy-bitsy, itty-bitty, lilliputian, little, low, meager, micro,
19:38 < epitron>      microscopic, midget, mini, miniature, minikin, minim, minuscular,
19:38 < epitron>      minuscule, minute, negligible, no great shakes, paltry, peewee,
19:38 < epitron>      petite, petty, picayune, picayunish, pint-sized, pocket,
19:38 < epitron>      pocket-size, pocket-sized, puny, pygmy, shallow, short, skin-deep,
19:38 < epitron>      slight, small, superficial, teensy-weensy, teeny, teeny-weeny,
19:38 < epitron>      trifling, trivial, wee, weeny
19:38 < kanzure> pettycad
19:38 < epitron> hahah
19:39 < kanzure> i should name it that just in spite
19:39 < epitron> meh
19:39 < kanzure> "no great shakes" what?
19:39 < kanzure> pygmycad?
19:40 < epitron> haha
19:40 < epitron> that's hard to type
19:40 < epitron> you're going to regret that name
19:40 < epitron>   executrix
19:40 < epitron>        n : a woman executor
19:40 < epitron> that's a fun word
19:40 < kanzure> dude i named skdb SKDB
19:41 < epitron> it's shorter
19:41 < epitron> you should use words from the world of building
19:41 < epitron> and engineering
19:41 < kanzure> makercad :(
19:42 < epitron> maker, eww
19:42 < epitron> (sorry, negative things bad for brainstorming)
19:42 < epitron> shaper?
19:42 < QuantumG> weenycad ftw
19:42 < kanzure> gnucad?
19:43 < epitron> hahaha
19:43 < epitron> gnurbs
19:43 < kanzure> http://gnu.mirrors.typhon.net/directory/gnuCAD.html
19:43 < kanzure> "GnuCAD - Unfinished project to write a free CAD system"
19:43 < kanzure> i <3 gnurbs
19:43 < epitron> how aboyt AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAcad
19:43 < kanzure> ^W^W^Wcad?
19:43 < epitron> it'll come first in alphabetical package lists
19:44 < dustbin> might as well go with 0000cad then
19:44 < epitron> alphabuilder
19:44 < kanzure> 0cad
19:44 < epitron> ocad is going to clash with the ontario college of art and design
19:44 < kanzure> but then it will be mistaken for canadian currency
19:44 < epitron> it's a big school :)
19:44 < dustbin> churlcad
19:45 < kanzure> angrycad
19:45 < epitron> CAD kinda feels like a big complex painful thing
19:45 < kanzure> that's what the marketing depts. of solidworks want you to think
19:45 < epitron> i'm tlaking about the associations in the minds of people hearing the name
19:46 < kanzure> tbh the user interface stuff is probably a huge ordeal though yeah
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19:46 < epitron> tinyforge
19:47 < kanzure> weecad
19:47 < epitron> haha
19:47 < kanzure> also sounds like "wicked"
19:47 < epitron> weebuilder
19:47 < epitron> oh, that's true
19:47 < epitron> weekid
19:48 < epitron> weeforge
19:48 < kanzure> yea big cad
19:48 < kanzure> "yea" doesn't translate well into text
19:48 < kanzure> lilcad
19:48 < kanzure> .. or lolcad?
19:48 < kanzure> "i can has sphere?"
19:49 < epitron> haha
19:49 < epitron> lolcadz
19:49 < kanzure> i am angry about tinycad being taken :/
19:49 < epitron> i'd go with lolcad
19:49 < epitron> that sounds awesome
19:50 < epitron> it associates good things with your program, and it sounds like a cad, but it also sounds like it's light 
19:50 < kanzure> this is a terrible idea, nobody is going to base a nuclear missile off of a software package called "lolcad"
19:51 < kanzure> lolnuke
19:51 < kanzure> maybe this is a design feature
19:52 < kanzure> babicad
19:53 < QuantumG> flacad
19:53 < kanzure> :(
19:56 < epitron> kanzure: that's the beauty
19:56 < epitron> you don't WANT people making nuclear missiles
19:56 < epitron> :D
19:56 < epitron> only good things can come from a program called lolcad
19:57 < epitron> you can rebrand it later if you want
19:57 < epitron> i'd imagine you're still in the embryonic stages
19:58 < QuantumG> fetalcad
19:58 < kanzure> sadcad
19:58 < QuantumG> not to be confused with faecalcad
19:59 < QuantumG> badcad
19:59 < QuantumG> radcad is onpar with lolcad
19:59 < kanzure> radcad is the name of a thermal radiation simulator thingy IIRC
20:00 < kanzure> padcad, sadcad, badcad, fadcad, gladcad, madcad, scadcad (haha openscad would be pissed), tadcad, vladcad
20:01 < dustbin> kancad
20:01 < QuantumG> madcad?
20:01 < QuantumG> seems appropriate
20:01 < kanzure> mancad
20:01 < QuantumG> femcad
20:01 < kanzure> dustbin: i dunno about including my nicknames or real names into it
20:02 < kanzure> heekscad did that :/
20:02 < QuantumG> why, bishopcad sounds reasonable
20:03 < dustbin> youcad
20:03 < dustbin> that way when people say the name they are insulting someone
20:03 < QuantumG> whateveritscad
20:03 < QuantumG> itscad
20:04 < kanzure> launchcad
20:04 < kanzure> scantilycad
20:04 < dustbin> I like puns
20:05 < kanzure> americancad
20:06 < Daeken> Totally Cadass
20:07 < dustbin> caddy
20:07 < kanzure> how about cubcad?
20:07 < kanzure> hm.. caddy
20:08 < kanzure> yeah i'm sorry but i think lolcad beats the heck out of all of this
20:08 < dustbin> it does
20:08 < kanzure> except maybe youcad
20:09 < kanzure> quantumcad
20:10 < kanzure> likecad
20:11 < kanzure> is there any way i can claim the tinycad name for myself?
20:11 < kanzure> maybe femtocad but i'm not doing fem2cad?
20:20 < kanzure> cadmium
20:21 < dustbin> I like element names
20:22 < dustbin> get to use their symbol
20:22 < kanzure> foocad hahah
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20:36 < epitron> <kanzure> launchcad
20:36 < epitron> <kanzure> scantilycad
20:36 < epitron> hahah
20:37 < epitron> scantilycad is pretty awesome
20:37 < epitron> it's tough competition for lolcad
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21:20 < jrayhawk> Well, at least the reprap guys want multiple repositories.
21:21 < jrayhawk> youbounder,youcad
21:22 < jrayhawk> caddish
21:22 < jrayhawk> caddage
21:23 < katsmeow-afk> cadsmere, the velvety smooth cad software
21:26 < jrayhawk> caddy: don't forget to tip (bryan) (tip bryan) (give your money to bryan) (this is not optional)
21:28 < jrayhawk> cadenza
21:29 < jrayhawk> cadette
21:29 < jrayhawk> fuck it just grep ^cad /usr/share/dict/american-english-insane and dict until you find something appropriate
21:30 < jrayhawk> ^cab also works if you like making people groan
21:30 < katsmeow-afk> i sometimes feel that way too
21:31 < katsmeow-afk> be cute, make it recursive
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23:10 < kanzure> "despicable me" my ass
23:10 < kanzure> that guy was not nearly evil enough
23:14 < kanzure> cadabra
23:15 < kanzure> damn it http://cadabra.info/CADlibrary.htm
23:16 < katsmeow-afk> cadesign?
23:16 < kanzure> so taken
23:17 < kanzure> bytecad?
23:18 < kanzure> ooh. cadmus
23:18 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cadmus
23:40 < dustbin> cadmus very nice not terribly obscure either
23:42 < dustbin> huh looked up who cadmus actually is in greek mythology didn't know that
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