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01:27 < epitron> hahah
01:27 < epitron> that eeg headset article has a really funny comment 
01:27 < epitron> it's a guy who has the craziest setup
01:27 < epitron> he wears 3 EEG headsets at once
01:28 < epitron> the OCZ NIA, the Emotiv Epoc, and the Neurosky
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01:28 < epitron> http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab251/LaboriousCretin/Picture046.jpg
01:28 < epitron> hahahaha
01:29 < epitron> i think he needs some kind of counselling
01:29 < epitron> although i bet he could get a job making fancy looking computer setups for movies
01:30 < epitron> you know, the lab where they're tracing the hackers and decoding the dna and enhancing the pictures
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02:19 < jrayhawk> http://www.aa1tj.com/newenglandcodetalker.html
02:38 < killall-9> lol
02:38 < Utopiah> (for pirates like Daeken ) http://i50.tinypic.com/r25erk.png
02:59 < archels> This channel has a wiki, too?
03:09 < epitron> Utopiah: hahaha! is that real?
03:10 < Utopiah> epitron: no relax, it's not a real bear, it's a drawing, think Rene Magritte
03:14 < epitron> i really am curious where it came from
03:15 < epitron> nevermind, curiousity gone
03:47 < Utopiah> http://luakit.org highly configurable, micro-browser framework based on the WebKit web content engine and the GTK+ toolkit.
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08:43 < kanzure> epitron: http://diyhpl.us/wiki and git://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki.git
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09:59 < kanzure> http://sciencepark.cc/2010/09/15/quick-thoughts-on-the-bioethics-commission-meeting/
09:59 < kanzure> http://makerfaire.com/cs/user/query/q/552?x-search=D
10:02 < archels> kanzure: Hmm, not MediaWiki?
10:13 < kanzure> hell no :)
10:25 < kanzure> jason bobe / diybio bioethics.gov talk http://www.tvworldwide.com/events/bioethics/100913/globe_show/default_go_archive.cfm?gsid=1438&type=flv&test=0&live=0
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10:48 < kanzure> i wish jason would listten to me more often
10:48 < kanzure> or, ever
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13:19 < epitron> kanzure: btw, we're working on a wiki in #magmawiki
13:19 < epitron> if you wanna throw in your two cents
13:20 < epitron> www.magmawiki.com is what we have so far
13:20 < Utopiah> is it DVCS based?
13:20 < epitron> no, and for good reason.
13:20 < epitron> source code diffs are line-based. wiki edits are not line-based.
13:20 < epitron> in a wiki, a paragraph is a line.
13:20 < epitron> if you change one letter, the diff says "that paragraph changed"
13:21 < epitron> kinda a silly model to base a wiki on.
13:21 < Utopiah> depends of wikis, some support words diff
13:21 < epitron> words diffs is hacks on tops of line diffs
13:21 < archels> Wow, that versioning diagram is a real piece of work.
13:21 < epitron> haha, you like? :)
13:22 < archels> pretty neat
13:22 < kanzure> epitron: well, if you aren't using line diffs, and not using word diffs, what are you using?
13:22 < epitron> substrings
13:22 < Utopiah> epitron: sidenote there is the generalist #wiki which is nice for overall discussions on the topic
13:23 < epitron> Utopiah: orly... i'll check it out
13:24 < kanzure> what's the incentive to share a CAD file (that is not already being used to produce some buyable product)?
13:24 < kanzure> other than reputation / feel good about yourself / collaboration-improvement-bonus-points
13:26 < kanzure> the only reason you use CAD is because you want to make whatever you are modeling
13:26 < kanzure> so if you're not actually building something and you're not selling it, then that means you're stuck and not making progress
13:26 < kanzure> so why would we want that CAD file anyway
13:26 < kanzure> haha.. although that's too severe, because it could just be a one-off thing or something
13:27 < kanzure> or you could just not be dedicated or interested, and it might actually be a useful design or file with lots of work put into it
13:29 < kanzure> or you weren't interested in selling it in the first place (but if you weren't interested in selling it, how did you cover the $20k/seat cost of the CAD system)
13:30 < Utopiah> epitron: also you can check http://www.slideshare.net/event/wikimania2010 eventhough it's mediaWiki based it gives nice ideas
13:30 < kanzure> (well, that's primarily consumer CAD of course, there are other options like alibre, brlcad, heekscad, etc., but those are more recent)
13:34 < epitron> kanzure: people can model things in CAD just for simulation purposes... like trying to get a couch to fit up a narrow hallway
13:34 < epitron> they could then share the couch :)
13:34 < epitron> (not the hallway, obviously)
13:37 < kanzure> that's true, but i'm more interested in the set of models that are involved in things that eventually end up tangible
13:38 < kanzure> at least for now
14:08 < epitron> i guess having a couch in your living room is tangible
14:08 < epitron> it's not making things, but it's structuring stuff in reality
14:09 < epitron> Utopiah: i'll take a look -- thanks for the tip
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14:52 < splicer> mlp reading her Biopunk manifesto at the open science summit: http://fora.tv/2010/07/30/Citizen_Science_in_Biology#chapter_05
14:52 < epitron> biopunk makes me cringe
14:52 < kanzure> it's just splicer trying to be a hipster :P
14:53 < splicer> stick to transhumanism
14:55 < kanzure> splicer: i'm just playing around.
14:56 < splicer> ;)... i know, and who the fuck knows what biopunk is at this point anyway
14:57 < splicer> mlp is not doing a bad job at trying to define it.
14:57 < kanzure> this sounds more like politics than doing anything
14:58 < splicer> problem is that it's fucking difficult to biohack
14:58 < kanzure> have you tried
14:59 < splicer> I think I have a pretty good idea of who has and what they have accomplished
15:15 < splicer> Biopunk is subculture, playing with it at this point is talking about a biohacker culture that's not in place yet.
15:16 < splicer> You can sort of figure out the direction garage biology is going, but the main ingredient, the biohackers, are not there yet. 
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15:18 < splicer> I really don't think those biohackers are going to be that interested in MacGyverism or citizen science.... they'll be in it for the hack.
15:20 < splicer> It's those biohackers subculture that interests me.
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15:32 < kanzure> "I bet that with a just little biohacking, heroin could go from scary drug to low-carb superfood in no time."
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15:33 < kanzure> http://seeedstudio.com/idea/ "an open source hardware idea collecting platform" what?
15:34 < kanzure> seems to be empty
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16:25 < kanzure> hi SDr
16:27 < SDr> hiya
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18:23 < katsmeow-afk> Ben Goertzel lost control of http://www.intelligenesis.net/
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18:30 < QuantumG> kanzure: ya know that kickstarter to get "dna writing" into schools?
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18:31 < kanzure> otyp?
18:31 < QuantumG> ya
18:33 < QuantumG> it's the thermal cycler that is the expensive bit isn't it?
18:34 < drazak> duh
18:34 < QuantumG> "The first thing we?re building is Thermotyp, an open source thermal cycler for doing PCR."  seems they're on a replacement.. but the kickstarter effort was to fund rental of units for schools.
18:37 < kanzure> "they're on a replacement" what?
18:39 < QuantumG> working on :)
18:40 < kanzure> ah
18:41 < kanzure> i don't remember ever seeing their demo/prototype
18:41 < kanzure> but they had photos in a few presentations
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18:48 < QuantumG> http://vimeo.com/12330301  nice gunna video
18:57 < Juul> http://github.com/diaspora/diaspora
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20:47 < kanzure> foam printer http://wimp.com/foamprinter/
20:49 < QuantumG> looks like it's just filling a mould to me
20:49 < kanzure> maybe the mold is printable
20:49 < QuantumG> hopefully
20:50 < QuantumG> tis a neat project though
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