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01:29 < Utopiah> (Aggressive Quadrotor Part II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geqip_0Vjec GRASP Lab, University of Pennsylvania)
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07:53 < kanzure> http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/episodes/august-20-2010/ethics-of-human-enhancement/6823/
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08:34 < ybit> Good afternoon everyone
08:34 < kanzure> hi
08:34 < ybit> feeling better?
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09:31 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone.
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09:49 < kanzure> hi JayDugger 
09:51 < Utopiah> kanzure: care for a pm?
09:55 < kanzure> sure
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10:19 < kanzure> honda exoskeleton pic http://singularityhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/honda-exoskeleton-walker.jpg
11:09 < kanzure> http://blog.kickstarter.com/post/1138357266/biocurious-and-the-diy-science-movement
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13:02 < kanzure> heh a listing of stolen construction machinery: http://www.machinerytrader.com/listings/stolen/list.asp?etid=12&guid=62CD01154D434A0C9341C59A6A9D80F2
13:03 < kanzure> how does something like this get stolen? http://www.kitmondo.com/images/listing/955576924751.jpg
13:03 < kanzure> what are you going to do.. drive it away at 5pmh?
13:03 < kanzure> *5mph
13:13 < archels> If you were Russian, you'd probably cut it up into 9000 pieces then reassemble it inside Mother Russia.
13:18 < kanzure> i've heard of that before but i've never seen anything on the web about that..
13:18 < kanzure> any links?
13:24 < archels> nah, read it in a newspaper.
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13:57 < Utopiah> for Emokit fans http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/329/5998/1541
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14:07 < Juul> I want to be able to set the title of the current view using something like <% title 'my title' %> how would I go about this? 
14:07 < Juul> Can i create a helper that saves it in a variable that can then be accessed by the layout?
14:08 < Juul> ah sorry
14:08 < Juul> hehe
14:08 < Juul> wrong channel
14:09 < kanzure> looks like you're doing templating
14:09 < Juul> yeah, ruby on rails
14:09 < kanzure> nevermind you said 'layout' of course you are
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14:22 < kanzure> GPU/gromacs simulator that (recently?) went open source https://simtk.org/home/zephyr
14:22 < kanzure> and https://simtk.org/home/openmm/
14:33 < kanzure> fenn: josh lubell is showing up on my internets again http://area51.stackexchange.com/users/18275/josh-lubell
14:41 < Juul> interesting
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15:09 < Utopiah> http://www.fabricanltd.com
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15:29 < kanzure> looks like the typical crew.. http://www.openhardwaresummit.org/schedule/
15:29 < kanzure> although i'm surprised they had enough sense to accept bruce perens
15:33 < kanzure> more bioethics.gov stuff http://sciencepark.cc/2010/09/17/bioethics-commission-more-receptive-to-diybio/
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16:33 < kanzure> a virus made for siemens/factories has been hitting recently: http://it.slashdot.org/story/10/09/17/2150254/Stuxnet-Worm-Infected-Industrial-Control-Systems
16:34 < kanzure> "Add in the fact that factory workers don't really get paid enough to care about anything, and you have to start wondering why this this kind of attack isn't more common. Hell, we've played Minesweeper on the monitoring terminal of a >$100M production line :)"
16:35 < kanzure> http://www.us-cert.gov/control_systems/pdf/ICSA-10-238-01B%20-%20Stuxnet%20Mitigation.pdf
16:38 < kanzure> huh "Siemens .. updated their site.. indicate that they are aware of 15 infections worldwide."
16:39 < kanzure> yeah there's no way in hell these people are going to be able to remove this virus without hiring a consultant or something
16:39 < kanzure> http://www.automation.siemens.com/WW/forum/guests/PostShow.aspx?PageIndex=1&PostID=225811&Language=en
16:39 < kanzure> "Just got this from some of the process control security group within Dow Chemical..."
16:39 < kanzure> there's a process control security group at dow?
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16:49 < kanzure> "Stuxnet has defeated two-factor authentication, is not visible on the PLC, and has been in the wild for almost a year and half without being detected."
16:49 < kanzure> ^from http://news.infracritical.com/pipermail/scadasec/2010-September/000030.html
17:01 < kanzure> mypremierfutbol.com and todaysfutbom.com seem to be associated with the worm
17:01 < kanzure> patch from siemens: https://support.automation.siemens.com/WW/llisapi.dll?func=cslib.csinfo&lang=en&objid=43876783&caller=view
17:02 < kanzure> "Disabling icons from being displayed for shortcuts prevents the issue from being exploited on affected systems."
17:02 < kanzure> hahah they have to disable icons to prevent the exploit
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17:41 < jrayhawk> Sounds like Mossad.
17:46 < kanzure> huh that was cool, eric byres called me up and we chatted for 20min about this trojan/siemens/manufacturing
17:46 < kanzure> he was "validating that i'm a real person"
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20:43 < jrayhawk> do you feel validated
20:44 < kanzure> i'm real
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21:59 < kanzure> http://cts.vresp.com/c/?Humanity/81461c7f2d/ee40199c20/cf77858571/note=1
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22:57 < ybit> i'm guessing there's a list the admin goes by to see if you are a h+ member?
22:58 < ybit> an*
22:59 < ybit> i hate this membership stuff, i'm not going to pay $x/month to be a h+ member
22:59 < ybit> grr, an*
23:17 < JayDugger> Ever met any process workers?
23:18 < JayDugger> I ask because the heavy concentration of computer expertise and academic backgrounds here might bias one's imagination.
23:19 < JayDugger> Of course, if Siemens uses Windows for process control, they deserve what they get.
23:20 < JayDugger> Oh, and good morning, everyone.
23:20 < JayDugger> ybit: you have it right.
23:20 < JayDugger> A list exists of dues-paying members for WTA, now H+.
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