--- Log opened Tue Sep 21 00:00:18 2010 00:13 -!- ybit [~quassel@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:34 < fenn> didn't i mention pyvascript in here? surely I did. but it's not in the logs... 00:38 < Daeken> wait, what about pyvascript? 00:38 < Daeken> and which pyvascript? :P 00:49 < fenn> well i was wondering if i had heard about pyvascript separately or from your page 00:50 < fenn> how the hell do they "not make any profit" on a $300 glorified multimeter 00:51 < fenn> and if so who decided to only make any money on research SDK's 00:51 * fenn grumbles about selling emotiv knock-offs for $200 01:35 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@78.9.72.17] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:35 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@78.9.72.17] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:41 < jrayhawk> Emotiv's claims make a lot more sense if what they're trying to sell is Emotiv rather than the EPOC. 01:56 -!- wolfspra1l [~wolfsprau@183.17.33.59] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:04 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@183.17.33.59] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:11 -!- CryptoQuick [~CryptoQui@c-174-51-234-80.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:38 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@183.17.33.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:38 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@183.17.33.59] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:10 -!- marainein [~marainein@220-253-26-48.VIC.netspace.net.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:22 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:29 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:57 < Utopiah> CFP http://www.augmented-human.com/page/ah11-call-papers 04:02 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:41 < archels> Tokyo? ugh 04:41 < archels> Tokyo's awesome, but also pretty darn expensive to get to! 04:54 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@183.17.33.59] has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:01 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@diana.null.ro] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:47 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@183.17.33.59] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:03 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:11 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 06:13 -!- Utopiah [~libre@rps7452.ovh.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:21 < archels> "[...] we predict the discovery of the first Earth-like planet to be announced in the first half of 2011, with the likeliest date being early May 2011." 06:31 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@183.17.33.59] has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:40 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@183.17.33.59] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:54 -!- Utopiah [~libre@rps7452.ovh.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:12 < kanzure> http://daeken.com/the-hardware-hacker-manifesto 07:20 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:02 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:06 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:14 -!- niftyzero11 [~miron@dsl081-070-214.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:46 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@183.17.33.59] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:05 -!- panax [panax@goldstandard.eng.usf.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:06 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:38 -!- splicer [~foo@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:39 -!- Daeken [~Daeken@pa-67-234-63-242.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:40 -!- M-xDaeken [~Daeken@pa-67-234-63-242.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:47 -!- Ian_Dani1er [~it@nat-pool-128-107.olin.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:48 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:48 -!- Ian_Daniher [~it@nat-pool-128-107.olin.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:48 < kanzure> http://elata.org/ non-profit TMS research foundation 09:49 < kanzure> webstats for said site O_o https://www.knightsbridge.net/awffull/usage_201009.html 09:52 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 09:52 -!- Ian_Dani1er [~it@nat-pool-128-107.olin.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:53 -!- panax [panax@goldstandard.eng.usf.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:53 -!- Ian_Daniher [~it@nat-pool-128-107.olin.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:24 < archels> Whee, just received On Intelligence by Jeff Hawkins and The Grand Design by Stephen Hawking. 10:31 -!- panax [panax@goldstandard.eng.usf.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:33 -!- M-xDaeken is now known as Daeken 10:48 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:53 < kanzure> archels: the wikipedia article for "on intelligence" and hierarchical temporal memory / memory-prediction framework are rather thorough 10:58 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:58 < archels> Yeah, I had also seen his presentation on the subject. I'm hoping the book goes a bit more into detail. 10:58 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 11:17 < archels> This: 11:18 < archels> http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/09/15/hands-on-with-the-lumus-see-through-wearable-display-real-3d-real-augmented-reality/ 11:18 < archels> is epic. 11:37 < kanzure> 2 non-cnc-converted bridgeport mills going for $2k in my area, should i nab them? 12:10 -!- ybit [~quassel@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:22 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:38 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 13:18 < kanzure> behold the legalese http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/hplusgada.pdf 13:20 -!- mheld [~mheld@beaker.cictr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:41 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@diana.null.ro] has quit [Quit: C U 2morrow!] 13:51 -!- mheld [~mheld@beaker.cictr.com] has quit [Quit: mheld] 14:44 < kanzure> > Also, I think it should be explicitly stated that Humanity+ has the 14:44 < kanzure> > rights to choose the judging pool. In practice Humanity+ has no 14:44 < kanzure> > issues with the initial judging pool you've suggested, but this is 14:44 < kanzure> > just a matter of principle. Also it's OK if it states that Kartik 14:44 < kanzure> > will be explicitly apprised and his opinion consulted in the context 14:44 < kanzure> > of any changes to the judging pool. 14:44 < kanzure> i guess that's fine 14:44 < kanzure> dissenting opinions anyone? 14:46 -!- panax [panax@goldstandard.eng.usf.edu] has quit [] 15:03 < QuantumG> what's it judgin'? 15:11 < kanzure> gada prize 15:11 < kanzure> http://www.foresight.org/gadaprize.php 15:11 < kanzure> i'm transferring it over to humanity+ 15:37 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:46 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:54 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:08 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:08 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:09 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:09 < mheld> hey y'all 17:12 < mheld> strange question 17:12 < mheld> two, really 17:12 < mheld> anybody want to help me take on nuance? 17:13 < mheld> and does anybody know ray kurzweil personally? 17:13 -!- ybit [~quassel@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:45 -!- memorex [~bruns@97.67.109.107] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:32 < JayDugger> Re: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/hplusgada.pdf 18:33 < JayDugger> Remove the smiley from the line, There is one 18:33 < JayDugger> particular person eager to carry this all out :-). 18:33 -!- mead [~durp@97.67.109.107] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:33 -!- memorex [~bruns@97.67.109.107] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:33 -!- mead is now known as memorex 18:34 < JayDugger> Better still, rewrite the line: it names the person it references. 18:34 < JayDugger> And replace the pronoun "this" with its antecedent. 18:37 < JayDugger> That will clarify the sentence's meaning. Right now, "carry this all out" might refer to any of the following actions: judging, participating, or administering the contest. 18:59 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:44 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@183.17.33.59] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:46 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:59 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 19:59 < drazak> uhmmmm 19:59 < drazak> so 19:59 < drazak> Smell-o-vision 20:00 < drazak> sending a pre-defined set of information for shows someone will watch a week before 20:01 < drazak> and it does the organic reactions and stores them from a predefined set of chemicals 20:01 < drazak> with various automated reactors availible 20:01 < drazak> sounds like a good way to make an explosive tv 20:07 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279397903.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:14 -!- joshcryer [~g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:27 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@183.17.33.59] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:45 -!- niftyzero1 [~miron@dsl081-070-214.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:50 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@183.17.33.59] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:51 -!- niftyzero1 [~miron@dsl081-070-214.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:52 -!- niftyzero1 [~miron@dsl081-070-214.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:52 -!- niftyzero1 [~miron@dsl081-070-214.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:53 -!- niftyzero1 [~miron@dsl081-070-214.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:54 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:18 -!- ybit [~ybit@c-71-228-177-79.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:18 -!- ybit [~ybit@c-71-228-177-79.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 21:18 -!- ybit [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:54 -!- splicer [~foo@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [] 22:00 -!- Jappe2 [jappe2@kapsi.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:38 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:01 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has quit [Quit: memorex] 23:07 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:22 -!- QuantumG [~qg@rtfm.insomnia.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:25 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:33 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:33 -!- ferrouswheel [~joel@121-98-81-17.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:41 < Utopiah> reading http://www.emotiv.com/forum/forum4/topic97/ on Linux drivres then http://www.emotiv.com/forum/forum4/topic903/ on a paralized man needs then seing how empty http://www.emotiv.com/apps/ is despite the tremendous motivation and skill of the community I can not help but think Emotiv refuse to leverage the community 23:42 -!- splicer [~splicer@92.39.2.70] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:43 < splicer> First Annual Catholic Conference on Geocentricism http://www.galileowaswrong.com/galileowaswrong/ 23:44 < splicer> (geogentrism) 23:45 < splicer> ...geocentrism.. there 23:45 < epitron> EEG headsets are overrated 23:46 -!- ferrouswheel [~joel@121-98-81-17.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:46 < epitron> i think their main killer app is sleep monitoring, so you can get woken up at the right part of your sleep cycle 23:46 < epitron> they really suck to put on and wear 23:47 < epitron> and if you're trying to control things, your hands are much more accurate and responsive brain-controlled devices :) 23:48 < epitron> most people's faces are also good at conveying emotional state 23:48 < epitron> (asperger's people might want a headset to detect that :) 23:48 < epitron> s/'s/s'/ 23:48 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:51 < kanzure> "church of body modification" 23:52 < kanzure> http://uscobm.com/ 23:57 < splicer> I like the darwinian viewpoint that as nature is there for no reason you kan hack it as you like without having to try to justify it. --- Log closed Wed Sep 22 00:00:17 2010