--- Log opened Thu Sep 30 00:00:18 2010 00:10 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@219-89-77-123.ipnets.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:12 -!- JaredWigmore [~JaredW@122-57-86-236.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:20 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@122-57-84-196.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:21 -!- JaredWigmore [~JaredW@122-57-86-236.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:21 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:21 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:34 -!- fenn [~fenn@131.252.130.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:34 < kanzure> hm 01:32 -!- marainein [~marainein@220-253-19-54.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:51 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@diana.null.ro] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:55 -!- codeshepherd [~Deepan@122.167.104.134] has quit [Quit: codeshepherd] 02:58 -!- Phreedom_ [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:05 -!- joshcryer [~g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:39 -!- joshcryer [~g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:05 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@122-57-84-196.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:28 < kanzure> archels: /topic can't be done until freenode staff makes someone an op :( 05:32 < uniqanomaly_> or everybody will leave for a sec 05:32 < uniqanomaly_> well that can be problematic too 05:33 < archels> kanzure: Is there an official founder of this channel? 05:34 < kanzure> me 05:37 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:39 -!- mheld [~mheld@216.214.247.202] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:45 < archels> ah :) 05:47 -!- mheld [~mheld@216.214.247.202] has left #hplusroadmap [] 05:47 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:52 < archels> kanzure: Might it be a good idea to ask a staffer to officially register the channel with you as founder? 05:52 < Utopiah> :) 05:52 -!- codeshepherd [~Deepan@122.167.104.134] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:53 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:57 -!- marainein [~marainein@220-253-19-54.VIC.netspace.net.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:04 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:04 < joshcryer> -ChanServ- #hplusroadmap is not registered. 06:04 < joshcryer> Good going, haha. 06:04 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone. 06:05 < joshcryer> Have a staffer op you in here kanzure, then register. 06:05 < JayDugger> fenn: because it has the flavors of espionage and cyberpunk fiction. 06:12 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:21 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:22 -!- codeshepherd_ [~Deepan@122.167.115.216] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:26 -!- codeshepherd [~Deepan@122.167.104.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:26 -!- codeshepherd_ is now known as codeshepherd 06:29 -!- splicer_ [~patrik@h193n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:36 < kanzure> archels: i've been trying for years to get that to happen 06:38 < joshcryer> 0 staff members 06:38 < joshcryer> :O 06:39 < joshcryer> That's actually kind of disturbing, never have I seen that before on any IRC network, there's always an admin or two somewhere. 06:41 < archels> Weird, my experience with staffers has always been quick & good. 06:44 < joshcryer> kanzure, they're telling me to do this: http://blog.freenode.net/2010/06/group-registration-form-verifications/ 06:46 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: a microwave oven is operating in the vicinity] 06:46 < joshcryer> Probably easier to just get a staffer to forward this channel to ##hplusroadmap for the time being and boot everyone. :) 06:46 < joshcryer> They're really ... anal about this it seems. 06:47 < joshcryer> One little character. :P 06:50 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:51 < joshcryer> Or we could all go to ##hplusroadmap for now, and then /part here... requires personal effort though. 06:59 * phryk ~ Tiger Hunter - Kim-Ba :: 10 Years Of Terror Vol 2 [@98% vol] 06:59 < phryk> Awesome terror is awesome :3 06:59 < joshcryer> That looked like a book title to me. 07:00 < phryk> Heh 07:01 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:01 < phryk> It's a track on a 2003 terrorcore compilation ^^; 07:07 -!- CryptoQuick [~CryptoQui@c-174-51-234-80.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:14 -!- ybit_ [4c1df68b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.29.246.139] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:17 -!- ybit [~heath@c-76-29-246-139.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:17 -!- ybit [~heath@c-76-29-246-139.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 07:17 -!- ybit [~heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:18 -!- ybit_ [4c1df68b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.29.246.139] has quit [Client Quit] 07:21 -!- giulio [4f1c8538@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.28.133.56] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:23 -!- giulio [4f1c8538@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.28.133.56] has quit [Client Quit] 07:31 -!- codeshepherd [~Deepan@122.167.115.216] has quit [Quit: codeshepherd] 07:39 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-103-57.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:39 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:48 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:02 -!- genehacker2 [genehacker@wireless-128-62-103-57.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:03 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-103-57.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:22 -!- panax [panax@goldstandard.eng.usf.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:29 < kanzure> slides from open hardware summit http://www.openhardwaresummit.org/documentation-and-press/ 08:29 < kanzure> http://www.flickr.com/photos/open_hardware_summit/ 08:31 < kanzure> raytheon xos 2 exoskeleton http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UpxsrlLbpU 08:31 < kanzure> flickr pool: http://www.flickr.com/groups/ohs2010/ 08:32 < kanzure> final program lineup: http://www.openhardwaresummit.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/OHprogram-FINAL.pdf 08:32 < Utopiah> kanzure: http://www.natural-selection.com could be a nice addition to ViualizeIT 08:38 < kanzure> "Working for free to make Mark Shuttleworth richer isn't very smart." hah 08:38 < kanzure> Utopiah: VisualizeIT is more like the name we gave to emailing word documents around to different universities 08:39 < Utopiah> :| 08:39 < joshcryer> what's ViualizeIT? 08:40 < Utopiah> joshcryer: well in my mind it was a revolutionary revision control collaborative design platform but... if it's emails :\ 08:40 < Utopiah> then I take the link back! 08:40 < joshcryer> Oh I thought kanzure named his CAD program that. 08:40 < joshcryer> And was going to mock. 08:41 < kanzure> joshcryer: nah, Utopiah is talking about a link i posted the other day 08:41 < kanzure> to my first peer-reviewed, published paper 08:41 < joshcryer> oh congrats =) 08:42 < kanzure> wilbanks' presentation is pretty good http://www.slideshare.net/wilbanks/oshw-wilbanks 08:44 < kanzure> although it doesn't give me my answers 08:44 < kanzure> open hardware summit videos http://www.ustream.tv/channel/open-hardware-summit-2010 08:59 < dbolser> kanzure: publication link? 08:59 -!- genehacker2 [genehacker@wireless-128-62-103-57.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:59 < Utopiah> http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/servlet/GetabsServlet?prog=normal&id=JCISB6000010000003031007000001&idtype=cvips&gifs=yes&ref=no 08:59 < dbolser> ty 09:01 < dbolser> Subscribers Only ... 09:02 < kanzure> i don't have a copy either 09:02 < kanzure> so you're not alone 09:04 < dbolser> how bout your co-authors? 09:06 < kanzure> yeah i'll ask. 09:06 < kanzure> "One more or less serious question for you. Do you know anyone who is working on wood? I'm interested in whether lignin (wood is primarily cellulose fibers embedded in a lignin matrix) in one piece of wood can be reactivated and cross-linked to another piece of wood." 09:07 < kanzure> "There is a German firm doing some kind of stuff with injection molding of plasticized lignin, if memory serves, so it seems possible." 09:11 < dbolser> hmm... who was I talking to about wood... 09:11 < dbolser> why is that in "s? 09:12 < dbolser> I heard about german company building structures with live trees 09:12 < dbolser> the trees adapt to the load, growing specifically in regions that need strength, but that isn't this 09:16 < dbolser> btw, I asked George Church about the polonator, and he claimed its all online 09:16 < dbolser> didn't check yet, but I remember what you sais 09:16 < dbolser> said 09:18 < kanzure> it's in quotes because i didn't write it 09:21 < kanzure> webcast on gliese81g http://bit.ly/webcast-gliese581g 09:23 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:25 < dbolser> kanzure: you know about the bet between sheldrake and wolpert? 09:25 < dbolser> to do with computer simulation of embryogenesis 09:27 < dbolser> I was wondering if I could use some of your evolutionary design code to try to evolve a model of embryogenesis 09:34 < kanzure> what "evolutionary design code" 09:34 < kanzure> there's lots of implementations of genetic algorithms out there.. 09:36 < kanzure> the main tool out of matt's lab is http://graphsynth.com/ for playing around with generative grammars 09:37 < dbolser> hmmm 09:38 < dbolser> sorry, thought you were doing some evolutionary cad thing 09:38 < dbolser> graph grammars are cool 09:39 < Utopiah> embryogenesis of what organism? 09:39 < dbolser> we tried to learn some from protein structures to solve the protein folding problem 09:39 < dbolser> Utopiah: human, chick or mouse 09:39 < Utopiah> cool 09:39 < dbolser> there is a big open source mouse development db 09:40 < dbolser> thinking of perhaps using kaggle 09:42 < Utopiah> forgot that platform, is it active? 09:43 < dbolser> yup 09:43 < dbolser> kanzure: did you attend this open manufacture conf? 09:50 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:50 < kanzure> dbolser: no, didn't attend 09:51 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:54 < dbolser> seems quite 'talkie' 09:55 < kanzure> there are a few reasons i didn't go 09:55 < kanzure> but let's just say that they don't impress me :) 09:56 < dbolser> 'wikipedia for components'... 09:56 < dbolser> revolutionary! 09:56 < dbolser> ;-) 09:56 < kanzure> well.. they don't even want to do /that/ 09:56 < JayDugger> Good night, everyone. 09:57 < dbolser> heh 09:57 < dbolser> btw, I spoke to a 'genome evangelist' at the personal genomics meeting in cshl 09:58 < dbolser> interesting stuff... govt wants to restrict 'direct to consumer' genome sequencing, but individuals (especially the very ill) are demanding the right to their genomic information 09:58 < Utopiah> http://www.technolife.no 10:00 < dbolser> btw, I have access to all the PG lectures, but I'm finding it hard to rip them 10:00 < masked> yeh damn straight 10:00 < dbolser> anyone good with mplayer? 10:00 < masked> i want gene therapy 10:00 * kanzure is good with mplayer 10:00 < masked> for pyroluria 10:00 < masked> i'm doing everything humanly possible to offset it 10:00 < dbolser> kanzure: I start the stream, but it times out after like 1 min with an obscure error message.... 10:01 < kanzure> is it rmtp 10:01 < dbolser> kanzure: right 10:01 < masked> but if they don't allow us to gene therapy 10:01 < Utopiah> http://rtmpdump.mplayerhq.hu 10:01 < dbolser> one moment, and I'll pass you the link 10:01 < masked> i'm stuck doing tests and talking compounds everyday for the rest of my life 10:02 < dbolser> Utopiah: I'll try it 10:02 < masked> hmm there is something odd in that markupcode 10:02 < masked> it jerked my system for a moment 10:02 < dbolser> Here is a 'zample: rtsp://dbolser:000006@meetstream.cshl.edu:554/Secure/PERSON/K.rm?title="Hood"&start=0:04:14.0&end=0:59:01.0 10:03 < dbolser> lee hood 10:05 < dbolser> realrtsp: rdt chunk not recognized: got 0x2a 10:05 < dbolser> I'd like to rip them and stick them online 10:06 < kanzure> i don't know what to do today with lolcad: implement rotation/translation/zoom, convert export_step into something more object oriented, implement the simplified geoemtric API, or map STEP entities to NURBS for visualization 10:06 < kanzure> decisions decisions.. 10:09 < dbolser> Utopiah: linking probs.. 10:10 < dbolser> rtmpdump: error while loading shared libraries: librtmp.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 10:11 < dbolser> cp librtmp.so.0 /usr/local/lib 10:12 < Utopiah> I used it on VideoLectures.net , worked well 10:12 < dbolser> OK, set LD_... 10:15 < dbolser> Utopiah: how do I set the Authentication string? 10:16 < dbolser> sorry, just found the man page ;-) 10:17 < dbolser> hmm... it doesn't understand my http://user:pass@url 10:27 -!- eiuclaoie [cbdbd6f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.219.214.244] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:29 < masked> eiuclaoie: 10:29 < dbolser> Utopiah: can you try ripping the above link? 10:32 < dbolser> my only work around is to create a script to measure the length of the chunk I got and construct a url with the appropriate offset 10:33 < dbolser> grab the whole thing piecemeal... 10:38 < masked> what is that above stream? 10:45 -!- eiuclaoie [cbdbd6f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.219.214.244] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:47 < Utopiah> http://www.mail-archive.com/live-devel@lists.live555.com/msg02756.html 10:47 < Utopiah> sometimes it requires the "origin" URL in which you are supposed to be watching from 10:48 < Utopiah> else, dunno 10:48 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-150-165.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:49 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:53 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-150-165.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:53 -!- niftyzero [~miron@dsl081-070-214.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:53 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-191-38.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:58 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-191-38.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:05 < ybit> http://www.sintel.org/ 11:05 < ybit> Blender Foundation's latest movie has *just* been released 11:08 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@diana.null.ro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:10 < Utopiah> commit logs from the production the movie http://twitter.com/#!/blenduriansvn 11:10 < masked> dbolser: this realmedia downloader appears to be working 11:11 < archels> ybit: wow, that animation is quite poor. 11:11 < masked> Utopiah: "RM Downloader" 11:11 < masked> yer 11:11 < masked> blender tends to lack talent 11:12 < masked> the animation industry is so back-to-front tho 11:12 < masked> all the maya kids think blender kids just wanna "stick it to the man" 11:12 < masked> i know a maya dork 11:13 < archels> Yeah, or is de novo 3D animation really quite difficult/intensive? 11:13 < masked> iono, i wrote this kids scripts 11:13 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:14 < masked> then he'd trash then hours later 11:14 < masked> moron... 11:15 < archels> Avatar of course doesn't count, although that shows that the human factor really cannot be disposed of yet. 11:16 < masked> damn hitler was right with eugenics, genetic clensing :P 11:17 < masked> ah well, other crazy neonazi's are having a good crack 11:18 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:22 < archels> I was talking about the cinematic aspect of the movie. 11:23 < masked> oh haha lol 11:23 < masked> i guess you're right! 11:23 < kanzure> archels: maya users are kinda like adobe photoshop users (in the sense that they hunt for tutorials and spend countless hours in their app) 11:24 < archels> Well, I could think of worse hobbies. I had just hoped the results would be slightly better. 11:25 < masked> yeh this piece of work would have tutorial dvd's with models on disk 11:25 < masked> and them try and tell me he made it 11:26 < archels> How's the state of HDR? Physics simulation? Subsurface scattering? 11:26 < archels> From what I can tell from the video, that's "shit" on all three fronts. 11:26 -!- wrldpc2 [~benny@205.241.56.114] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:26 < masked> this kid used maya, apple shake, renderman 11:26 < masked> and maybe something else... 11:27 < masked> houdini... 11:30 < kanzure> my chinese informant got back to me with a list of "ridiculously popular sites in china" 11:30 < archels> www.yahoo.cn 11:31 < kanzure> http://baidu.com/ http://tudou.com/ http://qq.com/ http://taobao.com/ http://sina.com/ http://163.com/ http://kaixin001.com/ http://renren.com/ http://ifeng.com/ http://feerbook.com/ http://sohu.com/ http://tom.com/ 11:31 < kanzure> http://china.alibaba.com/ http://hudong.com/ http://dangdang.com/ http://ctrip.com/ http://55bbs.com/ 11:31 < masked> dangdang.comhaha 11:32 < archels> Only .com in the top 17? 11:32 < kanzure> hm? 11:39 -!- shepazu [~schepers@adsl-242-206-12.rmo.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:40 -!- shepazu [~schepers@adsl-242-235-6.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:02 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-80-41.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:06 -!- fenn [~fenn@131.252.130.248] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:07 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279397903.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:19 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:26 -!- wrldpc2 [~benny@205.241.56.114] has quit [Quit: wrldpc2] 12:31 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-80-41.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:34 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-103-57.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:36 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@122-57-86-233.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:39 -!- genehacker2 [genehacker@w-mob300-128-62-207-59.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:39 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-103-57.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:59 < archels> joshcryer: Re the group registration form, is that really necessary? This isn't supposed to be the official channel for a project, is it? 13:07 -!- genehacker2 [genehacker@w-mob300-128-62-207-59.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:10 -!- genehacker [genehacker@w-mob300-128-62-207-59.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:27 < kanzure> opencores.org interview http://www.efytimes.com/e1/creativenews.asp?edid=51624 13:30 -!- genehacker [genehacker@w-mob300-128-62-207-59.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:30 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:34 -!- Phreedom_ [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:35 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:51 -!- wrldpc2 [~benny@205.241.56.114] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:53 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:57 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:59 -!- ybit [~heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:05 -!- ybit [~heath@c-76-29-246-139.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:08 -!- panax [panax@goldstandard.eng.usf.edu] has quit [] 14:09 -!- ybit [~heath@c-76-29-246-139.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:25 -!- ybit [~heath@c-76-29-246-139.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:27 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:32 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:35 -!- wrldpc2 [~benny@205.241.56.114] has quit [Quit: wrldpc2] 15:04 -!- opensanta [~mitchell@c-76-108-220-159.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:08 < Utopiah> (live Skype discussion with the french transhumanist association, if I don't answer, it's because boredom killed me) 16:02 < masked> sounds like you guys have some cool meetings, convos / what not 16:02 < masked> you should have an internet radio station 16:13 < kanzure> all of my examples for lolcad suck, they have been simple CSG examples so far 16:13 < kanzure> i should switch to "sketch-based" examples 16:14 < kanzure> maybe something with cairo 16:26 < kanzure> the workflow could be: take an arbitrary surface in lolcad, export to svg (as a 3D->2D surface), then draw whatever you want, then load the .svg back in and extrude to your heart's content 16:26 < kanzure> but that's rather complicated 16:26 -!- Phreedom_ [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:34 < kanzure> jrayhawk: 100930 17:12:51 InnoDB: Error: cannot allocate 1065024 bytes of memory with malloc 17:34 < kanzure> any ideas on this one? 17:35 < jrayhawk> hmm. I might have to clean up a bit. 17:36 < kanzure> not your server 17:36 < jrayhawk> Oh, good. 17:37 < jrayhawk> Extreme fragmentation might be a problem, but probably you're just out of memory. 17:38 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:12 < JayDugger> Good evening, everyone. 18:26 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:34 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-83-140.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:43 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-83-140.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:48 < JayDugger> For all your writing needs: Soylent. 18:48 < JayDugger> http://code.google.com/p/soylent/ 18:49 < JayDugger> "...Soylent, a word processing interface that integrates crowd contributions to aid users in complex writing tasks ranging from error prevention and shortening paragraphs to automation of tasks like citation searches and tense changes." 18:49 < JayDugger> "Soylent aids the writing process by integrating paid crowd workers from Amazon's Mechanical Turk platform into Microsoft Word, a popular word processing interface. Soy-lent is people: its core algorithms involve calls to Mechani-cal Turk workers (Turkers)." 18:50 < JayDugger> And thousands of otherwise unemployed English majors breathe a sigh of relief. The degree they struggled so hard to obtain proves useful after all, albeit at much less than they hoped. 18:51 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:51 < JayDugger> Too bad (a) it works with Microsoft Turd, and (b) they didn't apply it to the introduction paragraphs on their Google Code page. 18:56 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:20 < kanzure> jrayhawk: we're moving a drupal installation from one hosting provider to another.. how do i check 19:20 < kanzure> we shoudl get mechanical turk to write introductory messages on okcupid for guys->girls 19:20 < kanzure> jrayhawk: crap, ignore that 19:20 < JayDugger> There probably exists a good market for that. 19:20 < JayDugger> I would've used it. 19:20 < kanzure> there's like a 2% response rate anyway 19:21 < JayDugger> But my girlfriend answered, and we've been happy since. 19:21 < kanzure> 2% response rate, 10 cents per message, .. 19:21 < kanzure> $200 for 100 responses? 19:21 < JayDugger> You could call the service Cyrano. 19:22 < kanzure> paying $2 just to get a response seems lame 19:22 < JayDugger> And its female-to-male counterpart, Roxanne. 19:22 < kanzure> females don't need any help 19:22 < kanzure> if they take the initiative to send a message they are already outclassing 100% of their peers 19:22 < JayDugger> No, generally not. OKC seems a woman's market. 19:23 < JayDugger> Still, why leave money on the table? How much more work would it take to provide the female-to-male equivalent? 19:23 < kanzure> about zilch 19:26 < JayDugger> And then there's male-to-male and female-to-female. 19:32 -!- marainein [~marainein@220-253-19-54.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:40 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:47 < QuantumG> http://quantumg.blogspot.com/2010/10/affordable-deep-space-exploration.html 19:49 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:49 < joshcryer> archels, the oppers were reluctant to come in here and give someone ops because we have one # in our channel name. By default all channels with one # are "official." 19:49 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:50 < joshcryer> archels, only way they'd do anything is if we had "official group status." It was pretty weird how they were being. 19:50 < kanzure> JayDugger: does paying $1 per response make sense? 19:51 -!- memorex [~durp@c-68-62-138-99.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:52 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:53 < joshcryer> I say we all join ##hplusroadmap, I've been lurking in there but won't leave here until there's a 51% majority in there. 19:53 < kanzure> this /is/ an official channel for the hplusroadmap project 19:54 < joshcryer> Yeah but they said that it takes up to 6 months to even a year to get group status approved. :O 19:54 < kanzure> good thing i startedd it more than a year ago 19:54 < kanzure> *started 19:54 < joshcryer> Wow. 19:54 < kanzure> :( 19:54 < joshcryer> You applied for group status a year ago?? 19:54 < kanzure> well yeah 19:54 < joshcryer> Dang that's an insane backlog then. 19:55 < kanzure> this channel was around in 08 19:57 < joshcryer> Gotta love bureaucracy. 19:58 < joshcryer> And yeah I remember coming here when there were like 5 people, and I didn't feel like community building, but now that there are over four dozen I can be a quiet member. ;P 19:58 -!- niftyzero1 [~miron@dsl081-070-214.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:03 < JayDugger> Good night all, time to commute. 20:03 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:19 -!- makmanalp [~legato@constant.inople.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:21 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:25 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:29 -!- makmanalp [~legato@constant.inople.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:31 -!- dustbin [~chatzilla@adsl-71-145-146-189.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.10/20100914123505]] 20:46 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:53 -!- ybit [~heath@c-76-29-246-139.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:54 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:00 -!- memorex [~durp@c-68-62-138-99.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: memorex] 21:04 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:19 < QuantumG> http://focusfusion.org/index.php/site/article/new_video_making_fusion_happen_-_repeatably/ 21:35 < kanzure> i still don't know how i would do a "sketch-on-a-surface" api for lolcad 21:36 < kanzure> i guess it could be a coordinate system object plus a polyline that defines the bounds of the sketch entities or something 21:41 -!- enkiam [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:42 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:42 -!- enkiam is now known as eridu 21:49 -!- marainein [~marainein@220-253-19-54.VIC.netspace.net.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:16 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:40 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:52 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:57 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 23:06 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:07 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has left #hplusroadmap [] 23:07 -!- nchaimov_ [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:11 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:13 -!- codeshepherd [~Deepan@122.167.104.134] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:48 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap --- Log closed Fri Oct 01 00:00:17 2010