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01:35 < Utopiah> is there an equivalent of the Top500 supercomputers for "sequencing" power?
01:35 < Utopiah> s/^/[naive question warning]/
01:37 < joshcryer> I coulda swore we had that but I don't see it on a cursory search.
01:40 < kanzure> Utopiah: do you mean clusters for computing sequence alignment or sequencing machines based on i.e. identification rate?
01:40 < kanzure> if it helps, someone was plotting sequencing machines (model numbers, etc.) against "the carlson curves"
01:41 < Utopiah> #2
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07:22 < kanzure> guess who? http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/afgroadsimport/edits
07:26 < kanzure> Activation of opposing muscles in the crayfish claw http://www.biol.sc.edu/~vogt/courses/neuro/notes/crawfish-claw-todd1.pdf
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07:33 < kanzure> *oppossing muscle groups
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09:42 < kanzure> "We've been contracted to work on a diybio project to create an engaging iPad experience for a DIY microscope" http://dinostudios.com/2010/10/dino-week-39-what-the-heck-is-dino-doing/
09:42 < kanzure> haha, mac is outsourcing his roboscope?
09:44 < kanzure> huh that's david nunez.
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10:59 < kanzure> gary wolf did a TED talk on QS http://www.ted.com/talks/gary_wolf_the_quantified_self.html
11:02 < kanzure> that link was via Tal Galili <tal.galili@gmail.com> from the hebrew life extension group.
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11:09 < archels> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/10/14/2329215/Google-Maps-Adds-Drone-Imagery
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11:54 < kanzure> http://www.appropedia.org/Category:TheFWD
11:54 < kanzure> background: http://www.appropedia.org/The_future_we_deserve
11:54 < kanzure> if anything, kevin carson's piece on antiscarcity is his usual spiell
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13:01 < kanzure> hi Earache 
13:02 < Earache> Hey there kanzure
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13:02 < Earache> My first time checking out any of the H+ channels and my first time on IRC in years :)
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13:04 < kanzure> "transhumanism is dangerous garbage" - ben goertzel
13:04 < kanzure> holy crap?
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13:04 < Earache> is that recent from goertzel?
13:04 < kanzure> a min ago on a phone call
13:04 < kanzure> O_O
13:05 < Earache> Hmm...
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13:34 < kanzure> http://humanityplus.org/ how does that look to you guys
13:39 < archels> From a design standpoint of from a does-it-work-in-your-browser standpoint?
13:42 < kanzure> eh, either/or
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13:50 < archels> Why is featured work an anime drawing of two lightsaber-fighting robots?
13:51 < kanzure> you sir fail at gundam
13:51 < kanzure> humanityplus.org has no concept of staging servers :(
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14:40 < flamt> ssh rl.heh.fi for linleys dungeon crawl
14:42 < nsh> what were you talking to goertzel about?
14:42 < nsh> (kanzure)
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15:11 < kanzure> nsh: humanityplus.org board meeting
15:12 < kanzure> i was just listening in, they didn't know
15:13 < kanzure> http://bit.ly/turretPics
16:15 < augur> hey kiddles.
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16:44 < flamt> ssh rl.heh.fi for linleys dungeon crawl login 'rl'
17:06 < kanzure> i'm kinda bad at this
17:06 < kanzure> http://pastebin.ca/1965323
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19:22 < mheld> hey y'all
19:23 < kanzure> surprisingly short: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebook_scene
19:23 < kanzure> http://web.archive.org/web/20060530055327/http://www.searchlores.org/h_ebook.htm
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20:24 < kanzure> hmm
20:25 < kanzure> so there's not really any document that explores the role of invention in transhumanism
20:25 < kanzure> kurzweil tsin has a very "hands off" approach to technology
20:29 < kanzure> this certainly doesn't do the topic justice http://anarchotranshumanism.com/2007/05/23/copyrights-and-patents-capitalism-and-creative-progress/
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20:52 < jrayhawk> bryan: fonts too huge, tagline awkward
20:53 < jrayhawk> gundam perhaps inappopriate
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20:57 < kanzure> jrayhawk: thx
20:57 < kanzure> also nobody else knew it was gundam :(
20:59 < jrayhawk> i would've called them giant anime robots if not for the filename
21:00 < QuantumG> it'd be a bit GARish though
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22:05 < kanzure> when did fringe add "transhumanism" to their intro?
22:13 < jrayhawk> there's a chance i could feel motivated enough to set up a staging site for hplus
22:13 < jrayhawk> would depend on what-all you want staged, though
22:16 < kanzure> eh, i wouldn't ask you to do that
22:16 < kanzure> this is definitely a situation where you should charge them lots of money for doing anything
22:16 < kanzure> since (1) they don't know what their goals are, (2) they don't know what they are doing, and (3) anything you do is going to be meaningless in the scheme of #1 and #2
22:17 < kanzure> btw, for staging, i just mean a copy of the web server mostly.. instead of updating the live instance. >_>
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22:21 < jrayhawk> if nothing less, you should get them to follow the LWN.net model
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22:32 < kanzure> jrayhawk: hm?
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22:33 < jrayhawk> pay originators of developments in the field of interest to write stories, charge for exclusive access for those stories for x amount of time, then release publicly
22:33 < jrayhawk> I think LWN.net does two weeks
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22:39 < jrayhawk> or close peers of originators of developments in the field
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22:59 < fenn> why does it say "and ethics in innovation"
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23:00 < fenn> what's wrong with just "HUMANITY+ STANDS FOR HUMAN ENHANCEMENT"
23:00 < fenn> yes i realize you probably had like 6 committee meetings about it
23:00 < jrayhawk> those committees were bad and dumb
23:01 < fenn> of course
23:01 < fenn> i think there could be some nice randomized quotes on the upper right
23:01 < kanzure> exclusive access is stupid, especially when the license is screative commons
23:01 < kanzure> fenn: stop focusing on the website
23:01 < kanzure> there are some larger issues with this whole thing.
23:02 < jrayhawk> well it doesn't have to be creative commons until after the exclusion period
23:03 < kanzure> like: "what should a transhumanism organization actually be doing"
23:04 < kanzure> paying $3k/mo for a blog is stupid
23:04 < kanzure> how about some actual projects?
23:04 < fenn> so why did you just redo the website?
23:05 < kanzure> because otherwise they'd pay someone a ridiculous amount to install a wordpress theme
23:05 < kanzure> it was just (1) upload .zip, (2) unzip, (3) clicky button.
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23:06 < fenn> oh well it's all dangerous garbage anyway
23:06 < kanzure> O_o
23:06  * fenn chuckles
23:06 < genehacker> what fluorine ampules?
23:10 < kanzure> today on the board meeting: "let's set up a wiki so people can contribute content"
23:10 < kanzure> "and then we can be like a wikipedia"
23:10 < genehacker> board meeting, what have you been up to?
23:10 < kanzure> genehacker: infiltrating humanity+ :(
23:11 < genehacker> I've been building robots, racecars, and exoskeletons
23:11 < kanzure> utsvt?
23:11 < genehacker> no
23:11 < kanzure> acme team?
23:11 < kanzure> er, wait
23:11 < genehacker> gas powered one
23:12 < kanzure> deets or it's not real
23:13 < genehacker> deets?
23:13 < kanzure> details
23:14 < genehacker> as far as robots go, I'm fixing up some robot arms, convincing RAS to do awesome competitions and stuff
23:15 < genehacker> racecars, I'm working with SAE now
23:16 < genehacker> and exoskeletons, well I'm not really allowed to say much about that other than we obtained a compact fusion reactor through dubious means
23:20 < genehacker> oh yeah you wouldn't happen to have any information about the composition of metallic asteroids would you?
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23:42 < QuantumG> there was something on my blog
23:42 < genehacker> ???
23:42 < genehacker> or do we still not know asteroid composition
23:44 < QuantumG> http://homepage.mac.com/brother_guy/.Public/Asteroid%20Densities.pdf
23:44 < QuantumG> there ya go
23:46 < QuantumG> there's compositions extrapolated from meteorites
23:47 < QuantumG> and ya never know, the Japanese might finally release some sample return data in a year or two
23:48 < genehacker> well they might have found some dust in hayabusa
23:48 < genehacker> poor probe
23:48 < QuantumG> they have claimed to, yes
23:48 < genehacker> having to reenter like it did
23:48 < QuantumG> yeah, limped back
23:49 < genehacker> vatican observatory, don't see that one very often
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23:51 < genehacker> no elemental composition data
23:52 < genehacker> it'd really be nice to know if there's nice quantities of carbon, hydrogen, chlorine, or fluorine in asteroids 
23:53 < genehacker> because that's what one needs to reduce metals of interest
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