--- Log opened Thu Oct 21 00:00:18 2010 00:14 < Utopiah> how does that website "support" DIYbio? 00:18 < Utopiah> http://www.theinternetofthings.eu/council-france 00:20 < jrayhawk> Most adults have a set of Bayesian heuristics used to classify the level of safety and personal effectiveness of the people they interact with. Some of these heuristics are innate and some of them are learned. You are scoring *very* negatively with most people who observe your interactions. 00:21 * Utopiah hopes that last sentence wasn't for him ¬_¬ 00:21 < jrayhawk> no 00:25 < jrayhawk> There are only a few means by which you can hit the heuristics so negatively; 00:25 < jrayhawk> 1) Perhaps you have no desire to build relationships, though this does not appear to be the case with you. 00:25 < jrayhawk> 2) Perhaps you have no such heuristics yourself, and don't even know they exist. 00:25 < jrayhawk> 3) Perhaps you are unwilling to apply what heuristics you have against yourself. 00:26 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:29 < jrayhawk> Numbers 2 and 3 strongly apply a serious mental problem, either neurological or psychological. They both involve an incapacity to analyze social situations even at the most basic level; even autistics (who tend to have little social instinct and no empathy) are generally able to comprehend explicitly negative reactions and modify behaviors to avoid them. 00:35 < jrayhawk> Your temptation might be to work out what this serious mental problem is on your own, but your incapacity to analyze your own social interactions enough to gain even the most mediocre level of trust in others indicates that you are unlikely to make a useful diagnosis. 00:38 < jrayhawk> I really seriously recommend finding someone in the psychiatric industry to, at the very least, help you bootstrap your own self-analysis. 00:48 -!- gnusha_ [~gnusha@131.252.130.248] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:48 -!- Topic for #hplusroadmap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n39RK4inzg http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2009/ http://heybryan.org/ 00:48 -!- Topic set by kanzure [] [Mon Jan 11 11:14:52 2010] 00:48 [Users #hplusroadmap] 00:48 [ andares ] [ elmom ] [ JayDugger] [ nchaimov ] 00:48 [ archels ] [ epitron ] [ jennifer2] [ niftyzero ] 00:48 [ augur ] [ fenn ] [ Jonano ] [ niftyzero1] 00:48 [ bkero ] [ ferrouswheel ] [ joshcryer] [ nsh ] 00:48 [ CIA-48 ] [ flamt ] [ jrayhawk ] [ Overand ] 00:48 [ clemux ] [ GarethTheGreat] [ kanzure ] [ QuantumG ] 00:48 [ clever ] [ gnusha ] [ kardan ] [ saurik ] 00:48 [ codeshepherd] [ gnusha_ ] [ killall-9] [ shepazu ] 00:48 [ dbolser ] [ gourneau ] [ M-xDaeken] [ superkuh ] 00:48 [ DeltaVirtue ] [ Helleshin ] [ mage2 ] [ ToyKeeper ] 00:48 [ drazak ] [ Jappe2 ] [ memorex ] [ Utopiah ] 00:48 [ egeste_ ] [ JaredW ] [ mheld ] [ wolfspraul] 00:48 -!- Irssi: #hplusroadmap: Total of 48 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 48 normal] 00:48 -!- Channel #hplusroadmap created Fri Jan 29 23:48:24 2010 00:48 -!- Irssi: Join to #hplusroadmap was synced in 5 secs 00:53 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: mheld, jennifer2, kardan, nchaimov, gourneau, clemux, epitron, wolfspraul, archels, andares, (+34 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 00:56 -!- Netsplit over, joins: augur, memorex, killall-9, codeshepherd, wolfspraul, jennifer2, Utopiah, bkero, archels, JaredW (+30 more) 00:56 -!- Netsplit over, joins: nsh, joshcryer 00:59 < dbolser> Jonano: ? 01:00 < Jonano> yes ? 01:00 < Jonano> I'm clearly a leader 01:01 < Jonano> jrayhawk are you there ? do you want to listen to me ? 01:02 < Jonano> or maybe you didnot want to have a conversation at all, it was not your goal 01:02 < Jonano> I don't want to be social 01:03 < Jonano> I'm an introvert and I work on the web to get money. 01:03 < Jonano> It's also a good place to learn on futurism 01:03 < Jonano> good enough for me 01:03 < dbolser> ok 01:03 < dbolser> just reading back 01:03 < dbolser> seems you get on peoples nerves, but I won't hold it against you 01:04 < Jonano> to be alone does not neccessary mean that you have a mental problem 01:04 * dbolser goes back to $job 01:04 < dbolser> right 01:04 < Jonano> yes 01:04 < Jonano> I know why too 01:04 -!- phryk [~phryk@yggdrasil.phryk.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:04 < dbolser> a good friend of mine is bipolar. every so often he rants at me, but later he appologises 01:05 < dbolser> he's a good guy, but most people find it too hard to deal with him long term 01:05 < Jonano> so jrayhawk should apologise 01:05 < Jonano> :) 01:05 < jrayhawk> It's difficult to make any serious endeavour without establishing some trust with others. This extends well beyond introversion vs extroversion. 01:05 < Jonano> extraversion* 01:05 < dbolser> just let it slide, in the end, if you do some good, it will show through 01:06 < Jonano> trust ? we dont even know each other 01:06 < Jonano> and I dont want. 01:06 < Jonano> if you need to use my web site go ahead, if not go away 01:06 < Jonano> I dont want to be friends with people 01:06 < Jonano> because I already know people are bad 01:07 < Jonano> and when I am with them, I get too much stimulated 01:08 < Utopiah> Jonano: maybe focusing on the topic could help 01:08 < Jonano> well.. 01:08 < Jonano> the DIYBio community will grow behond this channel 01:08 < Jonano> it will be a huge industry 01:08 < Jonano> in about 10 years 01:08 < Jonano> I hope to earn alot of money with my web site 01:09 < Jonano> and will do 01:09 < Jonano> because I'm so good 01:09 < Jonano> :) 01:10 < Jonano> I trust money 01:10 < Jonano> this is the most important language I quess 01:11 < Jonano> I dont like to keep negative feelings, I prefer looking toward positive thoughts. 01:12 < Jonano> the DIYBio industry will probably worth 10 millions in about 10 years... 01:14 -!- phryk [~phryk@yggdrasil.phryk.net] has left #hplusroadmap [] 01:14 < Jonano> I have the largest p2p lending site in france 01:14 < Jonano> and I plan to do the same with DIYBio 01:15 < Jonano> social skills is useful for people like Barrack Obama or Bill Clinton, not for people like Albert Einstein etc.. 01:16 < Jonano> if you are a programmer you can surely live all your life alone 01:17 < Jonano> I am highly ambitious that is why I am not indifferent to people when they judge me so fast 01:18 < Jonano> so far I dont have alot of friends so, you can never measure where I am shooting 01:19 < Jonano> you dont need alot of friends to be a futurist. 01:19 * Utopiah doesn't understand the point of trying to justify to other why you don't need them 01:20 < dbolser> lol 01:20 < dbolser> chin up Jonano ! 01:20 < Jonano> DIYBio.Biz is an application to sell stuff 01:21 < Jonano> I will receive help from people who do not know me at all 01:23 < jrayhawk> Do you think people would be more likely to make economic exchanges involving you if they were to classify you as being safe and personally effective? 01:23 < Jonano> I cannot be friend with everybody 01:24 < jrayhawk> To borrow a programming term, you are overloading the term 'friend'. 01:24 < Jonano> I have the ambition to serve everybody on my web site yes 01:24 < Jonano> to the measure that it is related to my web site and my product 01:24 < jrayhawk> Okay, do you think your ambition would be served by appearing more mentally healthy? 01:25 < Jonano> look 01:25 < Jonano> I'm already looking very healthy, dont assume thing 01:25 < Jonano> my web site looks very sane mentally. 01:26 < Jonano> do you know that howard hughes was one of the richest man of his time and was not mentally clean ? 01:26 < Jonano> I think you are making a big error in judging me that way 01:27 < jrayhawk> His lack of intellectual restraint was enabled by his riches, not the other way around. 01:27 < Jonano> so 01:27 < Jonano> what you dont like with DIYBio.Biz ? 01:28 < Jonano> I think you are crazy 01:28 < Jonano> you seem bad 01:29 < Jonano> you dont know me at all how can you treat me not mentally clean 01:29 < Jonano> we have opposite views 01:30 < Jonano> but yes, to look mentally clean or healthy is a good stuff to have while providing a service to people 01:31 < Jonano> do you know my name ? 01:31 < jrayhawk> Yes. 01:31 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-170-193-255.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:33 < Jonano> did you read on me ? 01:33 < jrayhawk> I did in response to you hitting aforementioned heuristics. 01:33 < Jonano> to be honest with you 01:34 < Jonano> I dont like people telling me I'm not mentally healthy 01:34 < jrayhawk> I wouldn't either. 01:35 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:36 < Jonano> because this is not true 01:37 < Jonano> I prefer truth 01:37 < Jonano> would you say such things in front of me ? 01:37 < Jonano> I don't think you would be able 01:39 < Jonano> also I dont think I will get help from the DIYBio community 01:39 < Jonano> I will need the help from google 01:40 < Jonano> it will start slowly 01:40 < jrayhawk> You could get help if you were to appear safe and trustworthy. 01:40 < Jonano> what do you mean safe ? 01:40 < Jonano> I want to make money with adsense on this site 01:40 < Jonano> this is safe 01:40 < jrayhawk> You are not your site. 01:41 < Jonano> I'm ok 01:41 < Jonano> I'm honest 01:41 < Jonano> my site is operated by me 01:41 < Jonano> you dont understand how my site is working 01:42 < Jonano> I think I will need to clarify stuff yes 01:44 < Jonano> you believe in the text that you have read on cryonics.org ? 01:44 < Jonano> first it was in 2005 01:44 < Jonano> and the only thing I did was to put links on wikipedia 01:44 < Jonano> that's it 01:44 < Jonano> cryonics.org did a big big diffamation damage to me 01:45 < jrayhawk> I believe those people are accurately expressing their assessments of you, yes. 01:45 < Jonano> they are acting like a cult 01:45 < Jonano> I am honest 01:45 < Jonano> and I am sure of that 01:46 < Jonano> I dont want to steal people 01:46 < Jonano> I want to help them 01:46 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:46 < Jonano> on my site at least 01:47 < Utopiah> Jonano: according to the log about 50% of the traffic in this channel is made by you since you arrived 01:47 < Utopiah> and I would say about 80% of what you talk about is either you or your website 01:48 < Jonano> yes 01:48 < Jonano> the web site is 3 days old 01:48 < Utopiah> Id suggest if you or your website is the main topic, you create a dedicated channel 01:48 < Jonano> right 01:48 < Jonano> good suggestion 01:49 < Jonano> but this guy is insulting me 01:49 < Jonano> my formation in futurism date back in 1997 01:49 < Utopiah> please 01:49 < Jonano> yes? 01:50 < Jonano> ok I shut up 02:21 < Utopiah> is there a project like "real life AdBlock Plus"? maybe using MyVu glasses, Diminished Reality algos and collaborative filtering 02:21 < Utopiah> eventually instead of just removing content, using it to display personnal contextual information 02:23 < Utopiah> instead of seeing an ad next to the supermarket, you'd see your grocery list 02:59 < dbolser> Utopiah: yes there is 03:00 < dbolser> http://vimeo.com/14566198 03:00 < dbolser> Code: code.google.com/p/unlogo/ 03:01 < dbolser> http://code.google.com/p/unlogo/ 03:02 < Utopiah> nice, thanks dbolser 03:08 < dbolser> np 03:08 < dbolser> btw, seen innocentive? 03:09 < Utopiah> yep? 03:09 < dbolser> seeker: I'm looking for an idea to generate 10M, $10,000 03:09 < dbolser> http://www2.innocentive.com/ 03:09 < dbolser> lemmy refer you if you want to join ;-) 03:09 < dbolser> Better Cat Litter, Please! $7,500 USD 03:10 < Utopiah> is there a solver toolkit? 03:10 < Utopiah> I mean there is an AmazonTurk turkers forum in which they share tools and methods so Im curious about an InnoCentive equivalent 03:11 < dbolser> they have some kind of team tools, but challenges can use them or not 03:13 < dbolser> "The Challenge also supports our real-time scoring algorithm called the Prodigy that allows Solvers to score themselves and compare their submissions to those made by other Solvers. " 03:13 < dbolser> <- not team tools, but there is some similar jargon 03:13 < dbolser> https://gw.innocentive.com/ar/challenge/9658599 03:14 < archels> lol @ better cat litter 03:15 < Utopiah> if you are into such platforms you might like et2.com accelovation ninesigma illumin8 expernova 03:15 < dbolser> To support team collaboration, we have added new functionality called a "Team Project Room". A Team Project Room is a secure online workspace that allows a group of Solvers to securely collaborate and solve an InnoCentive Challenge. 03:15 < dbolser> https://gw.innocentive.com/ar/challenge/9628305 03:15 < Utopiah> s/et2.com/yet2.com/ 03:16 < dbolser> kaggle 03:18 < Utopiah> makes me wonder if there is an aggregator for challenges 03:18 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:20 * dbolser resists the urge to create at least a meta site if not an aggregator 03:20 < dbolser> Utopiah: create a challenge... 03:32 < Utopiah> (somebody even give those platforms a name https://wiki.umn.edu/IDSC6490/Ideagoras ) 03:32 < dbolser> gah! ty 03:32 < dbolser> talking here: http://www.bioinformatics.org/wiki/Bsb10 03:32 < dbolser> I'll mention that 03:36 < Utopiah> if along the way you find an aggregator with RSS, ranking, notification, etc features let me know 03:37 < dbolser> heh 03:55 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:00 < Jonano> people are under estimate me 04:07 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:09 < fenn> i like this guy's style, he shows how to make everything using only tools he builds in earlier steps http://homepage3.nifty.com/amigos/index-e.html 04:10 < fenn> of course he starts with a milling machine and bandsaw but meh 04:11 < Jonano> he could sell his instrument on my web site 04:11 < Jonano> if he wants 04:11 < Utopiah> cool principle 04:14 < fenn> it is also stunning how clean everything is in all of the pictures 04:15 < Utopiah> maybe he has a wife 04:17 < superkuh> Clear as in depth of field covering all parts. 04:17 < superkuh> I assume. That's what sticks out to me. 04:17 -!- nsh_ [sbp@59.176.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:18 < Utopiah> could be interesting to see which "path" he used and what other did and what's the most efficient in time or pieces used 04:19 -!- nsh [sbp@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:19 -!- joshcryer [~g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:45 < QuantumG> he could sell his instrument on my web site if he wants <- twss 04:48 < fenn> twss? 04:49 < fenn> oh. i never understood why people think that's funny 04:50 < QuantumG> you wouldn't.. you're a robot. 04:51 < Utopiah> That's what she said. 04:53 < fenn> snap 04:53 < fenn> "The moodInq system is a breakthrough in tattoo technology, using a skin-safe proprietary E ink encapsulated pigment system that lasts a lifetime but can be configured to display any design (or none!)" 04:55 < QuantumG> nice 04:55 < fenn> if only it were real 04:55 < QuantumG> get right on that 06:18 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone. 06:27 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:30 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:41 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:42 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:44 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:07 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:16 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:19 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:23 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:30 -!- joshcryer [~g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:45 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@pd95b50af.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:45 < kanzure> solidworks/abco http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6BQWBBOYRA 07:59 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@pd95b50af.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:22 < kanzure> http://www.instructables.com/id/3D-Magnetic-Field-Viewer/ 08:25 -!- codeshepherd [~Deepan@122.167.69.190] has quit [Quit: codeshepherd] 08:31 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:43 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:43 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:43 < kanzure> http://www.universetoday.com/76195/nasas-ames-director-announces-100-year-starship/ 08:43 < kanzure> http://www.icarusinterstellar.org/ 08:49 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-69-181-161-133.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:49 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-69-181-161-133.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:55 < kanzure> so uh, anyone know her real address? Miriam Leis , Miriam Leis , Miriam Leis , Miriam Leis , Miriam Leis 08:56 < kanzure> hm i got an "out of office" reply from at least one of them. 09:01 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:04 < JayDugger> Sorry, kanzure. I don't know Ms. Leis. 09:05 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@pd95b50af.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:06 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:07 < JayDugger> http://miriamleis.wordpress.com/, correct? 09:07 < kanzure> yep. 09:07 -!- memorex [~durp@130.160.251.16] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:07 < JayDugger> Quite the polymath. 09:09 < JayDugger> http://www.linkedin.com/in/miriamleis 09:15 < JayDugger> Have you looked up any of her papers or publications? That might provide her email address, or contact information for someone who might put you in touch with her. 09:21 < kanzure> i am in regular communication with her, i'm just not really sure which email address to use. 09:23 < JayDugger> Ah, okay...why not just ask her? 09:24 < kanzure> i did, that's how i know one of her email addresses bounced with an "out of office" reply 09:31 < JayDugger> Got it. 09:32 < JayDugger> Good night, everyone. 09:32 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:34 -!- memorex [~durp@130.160.251.16] has quit [Quit: memorex] 09:49 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:53 -!- mheld [~mheld@173.151.99.158] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:57 < kanzure> Utopiah: http://treesheets.com/ 09:58 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/treesheets 10:30 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:49 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:50 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:21 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:24 -!- metafire [~quassel@p579A5CF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:39 -!- ybit2 [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:56 -!- mheld [~mheld@173.151.99.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:57 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:13 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:21 < kanzure> "This meeting was on desirable intelligence augmenting technologies. It mainly focused on what is available today and near term desirable technologies." http://www.thefulfillment.org/chatlogs/101610_ExocorticalDreams.htm 12:38 < Utopiah> kanzure: thanks, shared it in ##pim 12:47 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:48 -!- mheld [~mheld@166.205.138.56] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:07 -!- mheld [~mheld@166.205.138.56] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 13:11 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:18 -!- mheld [~mheld@adsl-69-228-190-230.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:25 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:38 < kanzure> "And of course a firmware program is copyrightable." 13:38 < kanzure> "not always, see the lexmark printer ruling where the judge ruled that since lexmark was using the firmware on the cartridge as a access control device, competitors were allows to copy it bit-for-bit in order to interoperate" 13:39 < kanzure> hrm. 13:39 < kanzure> that was http://lwn.net/Articles/396687/ 13:46 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:53 < archels> interesting precedent 14:28 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:30 -!- clever_ [~clever@2001:470:1d:19a:205:5dff:feff:f422] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:31 < Utopiah> http://www.smarttypes.org 14:32 -!- clever [~clever@142.167.223.35] has quit [Quit: Changing server] 14:34 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:38 -!- superkuh [~hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: gnomefailure] 14:39 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:49 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:50 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:00 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:03 -!- wrldpc2 [~benny@205.241.56.114] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:12 -!- metafire [~quassel@p579A5CF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:26 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:33 < ybit2> ohai 15:34 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:48 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:12 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:44 -!- mheld_ [~mheld@96.24.64.40] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:46 -!- klafka_ [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:46 -!- mheld [~mheld@adsl-69-228-190-230.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:46 -!- mheld_ is now known as mheld 16:52 < kanzure> fenn: did you see mac at burning man? 17:00 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279397903.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:13 < kanzure> diybio-london part 1 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9751397 17:13 < kanzure> diybio-london part 2 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9751731 17:22 -!- mheld [~mheld@96.24.64.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:15 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:32 < Jonano> He was spamming IRC about this: 18:32 < Jonano> I'm not spamming. 18:33 < Jonano> I'm searching an organisation, a third party group for my site 18:37 < Jonano> but I quess it's not the good to ask here 18:37 < Jonano> place 18:49 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-170-193-255.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:50 -!- M-xDaeken [~Daeken@pa-67-234-56-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:51 -!- saurik [~saurik@carrier.saurik.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:52 -!- saurik [~saurik@carrier.saurik.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:52 -!- niftyzero1 [~miron@dsl081-070-214.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:55 -!- M-xDaeken [~Daeken@pa-67-234-56-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:02 -!- niftyzero1 [~miron@dsl081-070-214.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:02 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:22 -!- klafka_ [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:27 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:50 -!- wrldpc2 [~benny@205.241.56.114] has quit [Quit: wrldpc2] 19:58 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:01 < kanzure> ybit2: http://www.hilcoind.com/sales/sale.asp?SALE_ID=1831&SALE_REFERENCE_ID=DGMHEQBWVQ913201016814 20:01 < kanzure> it's in alabama 20:01 < kanzure> if you want anything, just let me know 20:01 < kanzure> here's the "all" view": 20:02 < kanzure> http://www.hilcoind.com/sales/lots.asp?SALE_ID=1831&SALE_REFERENCE_ID=DGMHEQBWVQ913201016814&F_MPP=ALL&F_PAST_SALE=&F_SORT_BY=LOT_NUMBER 20:02 < kanzure> it's in dothan. 20:03 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:03 < kanzure> "MAZAK MODEL NEXUS VCN-510C CNC VERTICAL MACHINING CENTER" 20:03 < kanzure> a few bridgeports 20:03 < kanzure> mazak engine lathe (one of those supermonsters) 20:04 < kanzure> "vertical sand mixing mill" 20:05 < kanzure> netzsch pmc-vc-2500 intensive mixer 20:29 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:37 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:38 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:53 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:53 < Jonano> this is my most important page, the one that is more relevant to me: not the ebola virus page: 20:53 < Jonano> http://future.wikia.com/wiki/User:Jonano 20:54 < Jonano> but obscure people always put the ebola virus beside my name 20:55 < Jonano> which is negative 20:55 < Jonano> let's talk about positivism ! 20:57 < Jonano> it seems that people are loves to degrad (put down) people in general, which make them not very special 20:57 < Jonano> -are 20:58 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:02 < Jonano> I wont help them if I succeed 21:02 < Jonano> for example I wont help kanzure 21:03 < Jonano> since he share negatives thoughts toward me 21:03 < Jonano> have you seen how he treated my message on DIYBio group 21:03 < Jonano> what a good friend we have ! 21:04 < Jonano> common, you need better relationship with me 21:04 < Jonano> if you treat any new comer that way, in the DIYBio community, this community will have a bad reputation 21:06 < gnusha_> go on. 21:07 < Jonano> what ? 21:07 < Jonano> I wont help people who dont consider me as a valuable person 21:08 < Jonano> I have been in the futurism field since 1997 21:08 < Jonano> I have seen people go and come 21:08 < Jonano> often 21:08 < Jonano> I'm from the old school 21:09 < Jonano> do you remember nanothinc ? 21:10 < Jonano> I gave my site to students which gave the site to Nanotechnology.com 21:10 < Jonano> I saw the birth of ImmInst 21:10 < Jonano> Bruce installed the forum for me 21:10 < Jonano> on my site 21:10 < Jonano> etc... etc... etc... 21:12 < Jonano> I even saw Ray Kurzweil become interested by nanotech 21:12 < Jonano> I'm an Alcor member 21:16 < gnusha_> how did kanzure treat you. 21:16 < Jonano> he did diffamation on me here on this channel and somewhere else 21:17 < Jonano> I accussed me to be a spammer 21:17 < Jonano> sed 21:17 < Jonano> and said I have a bad reputation in the futurism field 21:17 < gnusha_> "spam: A collection of unsolicited bulk electronic messages" 21:17 < Jonano> wow 21:17 < Jonano> you are brilliant 21:18 < Jonano> this channel is not about hplus but about kanzure 21:19 < gnusha_> i'm not convinced 21:20 < QuantumG> its all true 21:20 < Jonano> lol 21:21 < Jonano> the problem is that I'm richer than alot of people 21:21 < Jonano> so I dont have the proove myself in front of them 21:21 < Jonano> to* 21:21 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:46 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:46 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:53 -!- codeshepherd [~Deepan@122.167.69.190] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:55 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:01 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:01 < kanzure> Utopiah: how about "tinderbox" on the mac? 22:01 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:02 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:07 -!- nsh_ [sbp@59.176.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:08 -!- nsh [sbp@59.176.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:26 < kanzure> http://wondermark.com/666/ 22:28 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 22:36 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:30 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:36 < Jonano> jrayhawk is a psychiatrist ? 23:37 < Jonano> I prefer Carl Jung than Freud 23:39 < Jonano> I need to improve my intelligence --- Log closed Fri Oct 22 00:00:17 2010