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00:54 < joshcryer> Sweet video by Jeri: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhQ7d3BK3KQ
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08:00 < kanzure> i should really figure out how to read this stuff :/
08:00 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/rtd-main/browse_thread/thread/a1e19f2dd3f72f69
08:02 < uniqanomaly> translate.google.com ;)
08:02 < uniqanomaly> http://www.apronus.com/internet/ruskey.htm for images ^^
08:03 < kanzure> it's more awesome to learn multiple languages
08:03 < uniqanomaly> of course it is
08:03 < uniqanomaly> time & commitment, nothing more
08:03 < kanzure> also lots of russian vodka
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08:08 < kanzure> hi Matvey :)
08:08 < Matvey> hey Bryan :)
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08:12 < Matvey> may I ask why this channel is named roadmap?
08:21 < archels> It's vestigial, afaik.
08:35 < kanzure> Matvey: there used to be a document floating around here called "transhumanist technical roadmap"
08:35 < dbolser> see you in #h+ ;-P
08:36 < dbolser> seriously, #hplus would be a good name
08:36 < kanzure> hm?
08:36 < dbolser> then configure a redirect from here to there
08:36 < kanzure> someone else owns the channel
08:36 < kanzure> also, we can't redirect this channel because freenode staff won't give me or anyone else in here ops
08:36 < dbolser> oh
08:36 < dbolser> sucks
08:36 < dbolser> freenode... ftl
08:36 < dbolser> ftf
08:37 < dbolser> same in gmod and selenium
08:37 < dbolser> file a form, get in line... wait forever
08:37 < kanzure> yep
08:37 < kanzure> or file a form, file another form, give up
08:37 < dbolser> heh
08:38 < dbolser> I keep trying in #freenode... sometimes you find a god in a good mood and he just does it there and then
08:38 < dbolser> I saw it happen once
08:38 < dbolser> so this channel is owned by some ghost?
08:38 < kanzure> no this channel is merely owned by nobody
08:38 < dbolser> its really crappy, because now I go round registering channels on the offchance ...
08:39 < kanzure> when i first came in here i forgot to register it.. back sometime in january 2008 or something
08:39 < dbolser> hmm... 
08:42 < kanzure> http://diybandmill.com/
08:42 < kanzure> december 21 in palo alto Ending the Year of Citizen Science + the Future of Participative Health. With Jason Bobe and Greg Biggers.
08:43 < kanzure> more: http://www.meetup.com/BioCurious/calendar/15681331/
08:45 < Matvey> oh. it's nice to live in USA :)
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08:46 < Matvey> you can go on such a meetings, and you don't have to pay for shipping items :D
08:46 < kanzure> hey dalton 
08:48 < dalton> hello, was just seeing something but someone staff already anwsered the questiong 
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08:53 < dbolser> hi 
08:53 < dbolser> I was wondering if you could +op kanzure so he can configure this channel while we wait for the grf
08:54 < kanzure> hi there.
08:54 < kanzure> yeah it's been a few years
08:54 < GTASAchampion> Who, me? I am not an op, if that was directed to me.
08:54 < kanzure> can you guys confirm that it's still in the grf queue?
08:54 < dbolser> Android001: kanzure founded this channel (I figure we should speak in here?)
08:54 < Android001> well then surely he can OP himself?
08:55 < kanzure> no, the channel was never registered
08:55 < Android001> ah, i see the problem.
08:55 < GTASAchampion> I will register it.
08:55 < Android001> so why does it matter?
08:55 < kanzure> because sometimes we get trolls, spammers, schizos, and other disruptors
08:55 < GTASAchampion> Jerks.
08:56 < kanzure> well it is irc :)
08:56 < Android001> kanzure, GTASAchampion> I will register it.
08:56 < kanzure> i am probably also a jerk but hopefully less of one
08:56 < Android001> There is your answer
08:56 < kanzure> i see
08:56 < kanzure> GTASAchampion: are you freenode staff?
08:56 < GTASAchampion> No.
08:56 < kanzure> uh
08:56 < kanzure> i think you misunderstand irc
08:56 < kanzure> but thank you
08:56 < GTASAchampion> My hostmask does not indicate I am, as I don't use cloaks.
08:57 < dbolser> I see hplus is owned by suic
08:57 < GTASAchampion> GTASAchampion=+GTASAchamp@66.102.80.162 is my hostmask.
08:57 < kanzure> dbolser: why do you care about #hplus?
08:57 < dbolser> kanzure: sorry, I got carried away when someone said the name of this channel was based on an out of date project
08:58 < dbolser> I thought hplus was a better name
08:58 < archels> So who gets founder status?
08:58 < archels> kanzure, right?
08:58 < GTASAchampion> I dunno, the first op to come online?
08:58 < Android001> GTASAchampion, if you are not staff how are you registering it?
08:59 < dbolser> right, except since he lost his op, we'd all have to leave and come back in, which is silly
08:59 < kanzure> Android001: i think GTASAchampion might be a troll :(
08:59 < dbolser> so I just thought I'd politely ask in 
08:59 < GTASAchampion> I didn't register it, I can't unless I get +o.
08:59 < kanzure> sigh
08:59 < kanzure> please go away
08:59 < dbolser> so I just thought I'd politely ask in #freenode... and kinda... 
08:59 < dbolser> ok
08:59 < kanzure> not you dbolser :)
08:59 < dbolser> ;-P
08:59 < GTASAchampion> Perhaps request a drop?
08:59 < GTASAchampion> Then, register it, dbolser?
09:00 < GTASAchampion> Then, reregister it, dbolser?
09:00 < kanzure> GTASAchampion: there is no registration on the channel in the first place
09:01 < GTASAchampion> Guys, I will register a nw channel like this.
09:01 < kanzure> haha wtf
09:01 < dbolser> a drop is 'boot everyone' iirc
09:01 < Android001> so, the only way (unless you come across staff in a shockingly good mood) is to get everyone to leave.
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09:01 < dbolser> which is kinda disruptive
09:01 < GTASAchampion> Goto #hplusroadmapnew.
09:01 < dbolser> Android001: I thought it was worth a try ;-)
09:01 < kanzure> GTASAchampion: please, just stop
09:01 < kanzure> you're hurting me.
09:02 < kanzure> Android001: that's my understanding too. the gsf/grp process seems all broken
09:02 < dbolser> kanzure: Android001: we've had a form in for #gmod for over 12 months
09:02 < GTASAchampion> Kanzure, go to #hplusroadmapnew so I can transfer founder and/or op to you.
09:02 < dbolser> I can still set ignore right ?
09:02 < kanzure> GTASAchampion: why would i want that channel
09:03 < GTASAchampion> Because an OP won't log on any time soon.
09:03 < kanzure> there is no op
09:03 < dbolser> I'm sorry I started this... lets all go back to normal
09:07 < GTASAchampion> Kanzure, do  /msg ChanServ SET #hplusroadmapnew FOUNDER kanzure on #hplusroadmapnew to complete the founder transfer. ou have 30 seconds before the transfer is cancelled.
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09:08 < kanzure> 09:08 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- kanzure on #hplusroadmapnew is not registered.
09:08 < kanzure> not that it matters..
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09:13 < kanzure> hi IRClearning 
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09:46 < augur> IRClearning R Cleaving
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10:23 < kanzure> stalk: djinnome
10:31 < kanzure> "In previous research, Ybarra has found that social interaction provides a short-term boost to executive function that's comparable in size to playing brain games, such as solving crossword puzzles."
10:32 < kanzure> "They found that engaging in brief (10 minute) conversations in which participants were simply instructed to get to know another person resulted in boosts to their subsequent performance on an array of common cognitive tasks."
10:32 < kanzure> "The studies further showed that the improvement in mental function was limited to tasks assessing executive function. Neither processing speed nor general knowledge were affected by the type of social interaction engaged in by participants.participants."
10:38 < kanzure> mormon transhumanist association member survey https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/metacannon.net/viewform?hl=en&ndplr=1&formkey=dGN3c00wZ3RlZllPZUdfY3I5X0RhNVE6MQ#gid=0
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10:54 < kanzure>  Proposal for Universal Identification of Genetic Sequence Features and Biological Parts By Sequence Hashes http://loche.lbl.gov/tim/static/TSH-RFC-2010-12-20.doc
10:55 < kanzure> basically: use SHA-256
10:56 < kanzure> hrm.. how are they choosing where to start/stop the sequence? at promoter sequences?
11:13 < kanzure> http://genomics.xprize.org/ (which you should all know about by now)
11:13 < kanzure> video on the ansari x-prize for genomics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PvnyAEC65A
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11:46 < kanzure> igem growth projections http://2011.igem.org/Regions/iGEM_Growth
11:52 < kanzure> videos from space manufacturing 14 (the space studies institute conference) http://ssi.org/2010-conference-space-manufacturing-14/archive/
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11:56 < kanzure> open source hardware and university patents http://www.business-strategy-innovation.com/wordpress/2010/12/open-source-hardware-and-university-patents/
11:56 < kanzure> http://christianwig.com/blogg/2010/12/open-source-innovation-methodology-%E2%80%93-a-next-natural-step/
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12:43 < kanzure> singularity summit 2010 videos http://singularityhub.com/2010/12/15/videos-from-singularity-summit-2010-now-available-for-free-online/
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13:31 < ybit> anything worth watching?
13:36 < kanzure> i have't watched yet
13:36 < kanzure> ybit: p2pu stuff happening at london hackspace
13:36 < kanzure> did you read the emails i sent your way in the last ~week?
13:37 < kanzure> also: does anyone know how to figure out the charge distribution from a pdb file or for some general protein in NCBI somewhere?
13:43 < mjr> the embodiment of the aibox problem: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/20/electro128-02b.jpg
13:43 < kanzure> heh
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15:22 < kanzure> if taq dna polymerase can do 10k bp per second at 70deg fahrenheit, how many nucleotides are crashing into it each microsecond?
15:25 < QuantumG> probably 10k times
15:26 < QuantumG> Avagadro's number being quite large and all
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16:25 < kanzure> QuantumG: great, so only 2.5k of those will be the currently desired nucleotide
16:25 < kanzure> i don't think that works out ;)
16:25 < kanzure> thing-o-matic #25 
16:25 < kanzure> blah
16:25 < kanzure> thing-o-matic #85 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rb-rt/with/5278636806/
16:25 < kanzure> plus video of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc_CjXxryLc
16:26 < QuantumG> that seems quite fast.. did they speed up the video?
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18:12 < kanzure> can anyone get me this paper? http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.bbapap.2009.06.030
18:36 < kanzure> ok got it
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19:48 < kanzure> http://usfln.org/ us fab lab network
19:48 < kanzure> conference on january 26/28
19:49 < kanzure> january 14-17 is future of humanity institute's "winter intelligence" conference
19:50 < kanzure> april 8-9 is "exploring human enhancement" in dallas, texas http://www.utdallas.edu/c4v/human-enhancement-symposium/
19:50 < kanzure> may 5 is singularity summit 2011 in milan, italy
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19:50 < kanzure> may 14-15 is humanity+ nyc 
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19:50 < kanzure> may 21-22 is maker faire 2011 in san francisco
19:51 < kanzure> july 1-4 is anime expo in LA :3
19:51 < kanzure> july 8-10 is world future society 2011 in vancouver
19:51 < kanzure> august 3-7 is agi #4
19:51 < kanzure> august 7-11 is siggraph 2011
19:52 < kanzure> august 31 - september 3 is SENS5
19:52 < kanzure> november 12-13 is humanity+ @ singapore
19:52 < kanzure> november 12-16 is society for neuroscience 2011 somewhere in washington, dc
19:52 < kanzure> Okay. I think that's it for my travel plans in 2011 >_>
19:54 < kanzure> oh also november 5-6 is iGEM world jamboree (sometime in october there'll be one specifically for the americas)
19:54 < kanzure> unannounced: space manufacturing 15 (SSI), foresight 2011, open hardware summit 2011, open science summit 2011, singularity summit 2011 au
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20:09 < kanzure> augur: what is this? http://codu.org/projects/trac/esotericlogs/browser/10.05.31?rev=102%3A523cb52f2497
20:09 < augur> it looks like a log!
20:10 < kanzure> you seem to be in it
20:10 < augur> yes?
20:10 < augur> this is in no way surprising
20:10 < augur> as im in #esoteric right now
20:14 < kanzure> what is it?
20:14 < augur> a channel about esoteric programming languages?
20:14 < kanzure> i see.
20:15 < augur> why?
20:16 < kanzure> you showed up in my search results while i was trying to find the immortality institute 2011 conference site
20:16 < kanzure> O_O
20:17 < augur> oh?
20:22 < augur> or not.
20:29 < kanzure> diybio workshop in london/cambridge in may 2011 http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/browse_thread/thread/1c193f4c751af93f
20:33 < kanzure> hmm why didn't i include the world fab lab network event
20:34 < kanzure> ah there it is. late january
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21:05 < kanzure> Rapid evolutionary innovation during an Archaean genetic expansion http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/nature09649.html
21:06 < kanzure> slashdot: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/12/21/0034210
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21:08 < QuantumG> the summary is amusing
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21:08 < QuantumG> whoever posted it obviously has no clue.. thinking that MIT invested the term Archaean explosion and all.
21:09 < QuantumG> invented*
21:10 < kanzure> no no, they probably also "invested" somehow.
21:10 < QuantumG> somehow
21:10 < QuantumG> of course, that might imply that something of economic value came out of MIT
21:15 < kanzure> i don't mean to fearmonger... but http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/msg/c0b00e28e09abb42
21:15 < kanzure> diybio getting paired up with the department of homeland security :(
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21:46 < kanzure> http://www.easyeeg.com/
21:46 < kanzure> wow this site is awful
21:46 < kanzure> i really need to deploy gitduino
21:49 < kanzure> it's weird to say it but kickstarter is probably the most popular platform for open source hardware
21:50 < kanzure> which is weird, because it's just for funding
21:50 < kanzure> yet that's where everything is getting aggregated. do'h
21:54 < kanzure> thingiverse has only 5k items; i think more users are being aggregated via kickstarter
22:26 < augur> kanzure: stop talking and go watch the eclipse
22:26 < augur> :P
22:27 < augur> or have you done
22:27 < augur> D:
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