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??????. ?????.] 04:41 -!- phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:42 -!- nsh [~nsh@95.142.167.45] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:50 -!- nsh [~nsh@pubble.infomesh.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:08 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:28 -!- phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:35 -!- Lukas__ [44c29d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.157.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:37 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-95-245.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:40 < archels> argh, fucking LaTeX is going to make me miss my deadline 05:40 < archels> now it randomly removed all brackets from [citations]. 05:44 < fenn> maybe \left[ 05:45 < archels> nah, according to the documentation \bibitem should put them there automatically (and it did until I made some corrections). 05:45 < archels> I'll revert later to see what is the hang-up. :( 05:53 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:06 -!- Lukas__ [44c29d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.157.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:16 < kanzure> fenn: oh. under the video would make sense huh. 06:18 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:20 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-75-194.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:24 -!- Lukas__ [44c29d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.157.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:25 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:45 < archels> http://humanityplus.org.uk/ 06:45 < archels> yay or nay? 06:47 < Utopiah> some here might like the Computers as Organic Material section of http://www.rosenfeldmedia.com/books/mobile-design/blog/emergent_computing_paradigms/ 06:48 < Lukas__> nay 06:48 < Lukas__> personally 06:54 -!- strages [~809e4e63@dev.throwthemind.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:04 < Utopiah> http://www.physiome.org.nz 07:08 < archels> Lukas__: Admittedly, doesn't look very spectucular. Look, it's De Grey. How original. :( 07:09 < Lukas__> Personally, if it's not "This is the research we've done, and these are the results" I don't want to hear it 07:09 < archels> nod, this is just really vague meta-talk 07:10 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-24-23-119-149.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:10 < Lukas__> Thanks for the link 07:10 < archels> I already have a comp neurosci conference scheduled in April or so anyway. 07:11 < Utopiah> Lukas__: np (was to update my http://fabien.benetou.fr/Content/Health page with links on computational physiology) 07:11 < archels> Though that's in Edinburgh, and I'll take almost any excuse to go to London. :) 07:11 < Lukas__> xD 07:12 < Lukas__> I'm a poor collage student, so it still wouldn't matter 07:13 -!- shepazu [~schepers@adsl-242-196-155.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:16 < archels> This side of the Atlantic? 07:18 < Lukas__> yup 07:19 < Lukas__> well, I am assuming you mean the U.S 07:19 < Lukas__> if so, yes 07:19 < Lukas__> :) 07:20 -!- mheld [~mheld@74.61.205.248] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:20 -!- phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:27 < archels> ah, it needs to be a pretty good conference then to warrant the plane ride. 07:27 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-24-23-119-149.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:27 < archels> For me it's a lot cheaper, I live nextdoors to England. ;) 07:27 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-24-23-119-149.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:27 < Utopiah> ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anKiEoxkpxM IBM next in 5 starting with "citizen scientists" and crowdsourced sensors) 07:31 < Lukas__> A little to idealized, but a lot more plausible than what I usually hear 07:53 < Lukas__> Do any of you guys have a youtube channel? 07:58 < kanzure> http://youtube.com/user/kanzure 08:04 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:21 < Lukas__> Heads up: I've gotten back into the youtube thing since I've got a month left in vacation 08:26 -!- Lukas__ [44c29d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.157.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:31 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-75-194.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 08:31 < kanzure> ok cleaned up the front page (it's not imagespam now) http://diyhpl.us:9000/ 08:31 < kanzure> added /random http://diyhpl.us:9000/random which has precious thumbnails 08:35 < kanzure> heh error submitting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1wFzUqVCzQ probably because i only check for unique titles half the time 08:51 < kanzure> also broken http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEyguiO4UW0 09:01 < strages> kanzure: thanks for the links, I'm loving that all these videos are in one convenient location 09:05 < kanzure> strages: any suggestions for how to encourage people to comment on the same video at the same time? 09:13 < strages> I'm confused, you mean real time chat for all those watching the video that moment? 09:15 < kanzure> no 09:16 < kanzure> this is very much in beta, so add as many comments as you want (since they will all be deleted probably) 09:16 < kanzure> youtube (or any other video hosting tube) is hardly the place for people to ask questions about the ideas in these videos 09:16 < kanzure> hacker news is nice for tech discussion and business but it doesn't attract the full h+ crowd 09:17 < kanzure> (i.e. science discussion is a little lacking) 09:27 < kanzure> i don't think it should be real-time chat. 09:40 -!- jmil [~jmil@2001:468:1802:e148:223:32ff:feb1:9dfc] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:43 < kanzure> two more that break it: 09:43 < kanzure> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryNM9J7k6-E 09:43 < kanzure> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yje4wYqHBo 09:44 < kanzure> actually all of those from SB2.0 because they have the same titles :( 09:49 < strages> I'll be sure to signup and login then 09:50 < strages> anyone have an image showing the size comparison of a reprap mendel and a reprap huxley? 09:52 < kanzure> no.. but someone was working on a family tree diagram of repraps 09:52 < kanzure> who was that anyway? 09:55 < kanzure> huh google doesn't use oembed? fail: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2874207418572601262# 10:20 -!- mheld [~mheld@74.61.205.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:34 -!- Lukas__ [44c29d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.157.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:36 < Lukas__> Sweet, no image span 10:36 < Lukas__> spam* 10:42 < kanzure> you can also see random posts http://diyhpl.us:9000/random 10:44 -!- mheld [~mheld@74.61.205.248] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:49 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:06 < strages> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v373XKgzKc 11:06 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:10 < Lukas__> Interesting .... 11:16 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:16 -!- niftyzero [~miron@70-36-139-185.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:18 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:19 -!- niftyzero [~miron@70-36-139-185.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:39 -!- jmil [~jmil@2001:468:1802:e148:223:32ff:feb1:9dfc] has quit [Quit: jmil] 12:00 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-95-245.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:33 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-76-124-67-155.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:46 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Disconnected by services] 12:49 -!- niftyzero1_ [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:59 -!- phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - ????????????? ??????. ?????.] 13:00 -!- phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:18 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-74-74-152-155.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:41 -!- Lukas____ [44c29d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.157.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:42 -!- Lukas__ [44c29d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.157.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:45 < Lukas____> Hullo 14:06 -!- timschmidt [~tim@68-188-226-100.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:13 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:30 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:30 < Lukas____> O.o 14:30 < Lukas____> Happy Birthday Kanzure 14:32 -!- timschmidt [~tim@pool-71-186-62-139.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:33 < kanzure> thank you Lukas____ 14:34 < Lukas____> If you don't mind, how exactly did you become so entrenched in the H+ community? 14:36 < jrayhawk> loosely focused enthusiasm 14:36 < jrayhawk> the kind of enthusiasm that many people find worrying 14:37 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-87-47.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:38 < kanzure> Lukas____: i'd like to say it's because my projects are easy to understand and they make sense 14:38 < kanzure> but really the details seem to only make sense to people who don't care about entrenchment 14:39 < Lukas____> Interesting 14:39 < Lukas____> you seemed to be involved in almost everything H+, and you're a student 14:39 < Lukas____> inspiring 14:40 < Lukas____> how do you balance it all? 14:41 < kanzure> i am not a student 14:41 < Lukas____> ? 14:41 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-87-47.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:41 < QuantumG> but you're s-s-studious 14:42 < Lukas____> I could have sworn you were a grad student or something 14:42 < kanzure> nope 14:42 < kanzure> just doin' stuff on my own.. 14:42 < Lukas____> O.o 14:42 < Lukas____> brave 14:43 < Lukas____> quite brave indeed 14:47 < kanzure> haha i should have hplusvideo do talk reviews (like movie reviews) 14:47 < kanzure> some of them are about the same length as movies anyway 14:58 < Lukas____> that is a good idea 14:58 < Lukas____> I'd join in too 14:58 < Lukas____> lol 15:06 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-82-203.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:07 -!- strages [~809e4e63@dev.throwthemind.com] has quit [Quit: CGI:IRC] 15:09 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-82-203.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:16 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-24-23-119-149.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:19 -!- timschmidt [~tim@pool-71-186-62-139.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:33 -!- strages [~strages@70.90.224.229] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:35 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-24-23-119-149.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:37 < kanzure> i'm featured for a bit in the san francisco chronicle today 15:37 < kanzure> Bryan was mentioned in a frontpage chronicle article on the self-tracking movement.... 15:37 < kanzure> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2011/01/04/MNT41GT99B.DTL 15:37 < mheld> oh nice! 15:37 < kanzure> dunno what it says, i'm not subscribed. 15:37 < mheld> tweet that shit, yo 15:41 < mheld> impromptu dinner at asgard in kendall sq (for all y'all bostonians) today at 7:30 if anybody's interested. JLBaptiste, Mark Bao, bunch of others 15:42 < jrayhawk> hplusvideo should do MST3K 15:46 < kanzure> hahaha 15:46 < kanzure> mst3k on the videos there? :) 15:47 < jrayhawk> Yes. 15:49 < kanzure> specifically i should get steve to do it at least once 15:50 < kanzure> "We've been working on this drug for 5 years now, and it has the potential to alleviate all pain related to arthritis" 15:50 < kanzure> "yeah so we'll see that when i'm 60" 15:50 < kanzure> (that's not a steve comment) 15:53 < kanzure> ooh that's right. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/space-manufacturing-14 stuff. 15:54 < QuantumG> yeah, the mining one is quite good 15:55 < kanzure> jrayhawk: i can't imagine anything except snide remarks or further explanations, etc. 15:55 < jrayhawk> I know a certain set of misanthropes who can expand your imagination. 15:55 < kanzure> excellent 15:56 < kanzure> aubrey remixes wouldn't be that bad either.. 15:56 < kanzure> i imagine he's getting formulaic in his presentations by now 15:57 < kanzure> Lukas____: http://diyhpl.us:9000/s/the-spikerbox-bringing-neurophysiology-to-everyone 15:57 < jrayhawk> we could have steve do intermission sketches as aubrey 15:58 < kanzure> "Aubrey, what big beard you have!" 15:58 < kanzure> "Aubrey, what in depth understanding of bayesian probability and obscure grammars you have.. suddenly.. er.. what?" 16:07 -!- mheld [~mheld@74.61.205.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:12 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-24-23-119-149.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:12 < Lukas____> XD 16:16 < QuantumG> hmm.. a number of wireless IP cameras are now advertising as "iPhone Compatible" ... setting aside the sickening consumerism and obvious trademark infringement, I wonder if there's any small enough to wear on a necklace for life logging 16:18 < jrayhawk> Trademark infringement? 16:19 < QuantumG> yeah.. they're obviously saying "iPhone compatible" to leverage Apple's trademark to enhance their product. 16:20 < QuantumG> and btw, I'm sick of "product specifications" that don't even include the fucking dimensions of the product. 16:21 < jrayhawk> It's not diluting the value of the brand or making any false claims, however. 16:21 < QuantumG> of course it is. What is their camera is shit? People will associate their shittiness with Apple (which I already do, but yeah) 16:22 < jrayhawk> http://apdm.com/LiteratureRetrieve.aspx?ID=51017 Speaking of life logging, I do some work for these guys, FWIW. 16:23 < QuantumG> and they have dimensions in the specifications :) 16:24 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@pD954F7B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:30 < joshcryer> You can buy "spy cams" for $10 on eBay, put in a 32GB SD card and it'll record for a few days in low quality. 16:31 < QuantumG> yeah, I'm actually interested in something more than recording 16:31 < joshcryer> Trying to remember the name of the cam, it is uber cheap made by some Chinese company. 16:31 < joshcryer> But I was thinking of doing this, actually. 16:31 < joshcryer> Buy four or five of them and wear them on my arms, head, etc. 16:32 < QuantumG> uh huh 16:32 < joshcryer> ON MY DICK TOO LOL! 16:32 < QuantumG> moving right along 16:32 < joshcryer> Not serious. 16:32 < joshcryer> But interested in more than recording? 16:33 < QuantumG> recognizing faces for example.. and delivering live information via headphones 16:33 < joshcryer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zowf8UkE6fk 16:33 < joshcryer> Ahh. 16:34 < joshcryer> Yeah that'd be nice, use a GoPro for that. 16:35 < joshcryer> I can't think of anything smaller that has an interface you can hack. 16:36 < joshcryer> GoPro will give you a live feed in very high quality. 16:37 < joshcryer> With a Tegra 2 based arch you should be able to do real time facial recognition and whatnot. 16:37 < joshcryer> (with a battery life that would last an entire day) 16:49 < Lukas____> Any traucers or martial artists here? 17:05 -!- timschmidt [~tim@68-188-226-100.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:10 -!- strages [~strages@70.90.224.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:21 < joshcryer> Lukas____, I do kempo for exercise. 17:21 < Lukas____> O.o wicked 17:21 < joshcryer> parkour is not something I've done much, though, unless you count running down hills in mountain trials. 17:21 < joshcryer> trails 17:22 < Lukas____> I try not to run too much when it comes to hiking, as screwing up your ankles suck 17:22 < joshcryer> Lukas____, I've never tried kempo on another person, so I don't know if what I know qualifies as martial art. 17:22 < Lukas____> I almost did that on Washington 17:22 < joshcryer> Yeah, I agree. 17:22 < joshcryer> When I was a kid I had many many ankle injuries. 17:23 < Lukas____> I am trying to avoid that 17:23 < joshcryer> parkour is a bit safer in that respect because your terrain is mostly flat. 17:23 < Lukas____> even if the technologies become available to fix damaged tissue, I am not sure if I will be able to afford it 17:23 < joshcryer> (urban parkour) 17:23 < Lukas____> trust me, it can get hairy 17:24 < Lukas____> though I have a friend that wants to try out alpine level parkour 17:24 < Lukas____> because he is nuts 17:24 < joshcryer> I can do a standing jump to about 3 to 4 feet up. 17:24 < Lukas____> If I'm that high up I'd like my feet planted firmly on the ground 17:24 < Lukas____> sweet 17:24 < joshcryer> So those pylons you see for parking spaces at gas stations is easily met. 17:24 < joshcryer> s/parking spaces/gas pumps 17:24 < Lukas____> haha, wicked 17:25 < joshcryer> http://blog.photoshelter.com/image/3-gas-pump.jpg 17:25 < Lukas____> My philosophy is this: since I can't do the whole upgrading deal now, I'll push my current self as hard as possible until I can 17:25 < joshcryer> Like that thing at the end there, to keep cars from crashing in to the pump. 17:26 < Lukas____> O_O 17:26 < Lukas____> that is 17:26 < Lukas____> wow 17:26 < Lukas____> you've got strong legs 17:27 < Lukas____> do you still hike by any chance? 17:27 < joshcryer> Yeah, not as often, but I run every week. 17:28 < joshcryer> When winter comes here hiking is basically not possible, or rather, I have no desire to expose myself to 20mph winds at 10 degrees (-12C). 17:28 < Lukas____> ah, I've stopped until it begins to warm up again - I did a 10 miler in 40 Fahrenheit weather, and it sucks 17:28 < Lukas____> xD 17:28 < joshcryer> Ooh you use F. 17:29 < joshcryer> Ahh right your country was a colony of the UK. :P 17:29 < Lukas____> I did Bear Mountain last week (after the blizzard) 17:29 < Lukas____> yes, was 17:29 < Lukas____> :P 17:29 < joshcryer> I assume you use km now though for distance? 17:29 < joshcryer> I think the US is basically the last holdout on that one. 17:30 < joshcryer> km / metric 17:30 < Lukas____> as a hopeful scientist/ engineer, I've been converted 17:30 < Lukas____> but most people still use miles 17:30 < joshcryer> Wait Bear Mountain? You're in the USA? 17:30 < Lukas____> military types use metric 17:30 < Lukas____> yes 17:30 < joshcryer> Ahh, apologies I thought you were still in your country. :) 17:31 < joshcryer> I want to invent a better metric system. 17:31 < Lukas____> Hrm, slight misunderstanding 17:31 < Lukas____> I am from the U.S 17:31 < joshcryer> That isn't bound to the arbitrarily defined meter unit. 17:31 < Lukas____> and I am currently living there 17:32 < Lukas____> you'd have to get the entire scientific community to agree 17:32 < joshcryer> But you lived in Guyana? 17:33 < Lukas____> mother is from Guyana 17:33 < joshcryer> Ahhh 17:33 < joshcryer> Gotcha. 17:33 < Lukas____> should have clarified 17:33 < joshcryer> Sorry for not getting a clarification before. 17:33 < Lukas____> personally, I think Guyana should still be a colony, IMO 17:33 < joshcryer> Haha 17:33 < joshcryer> That's messed up. :P 17:33 < Lukas____> but that is another topic 17:34 < Lukas____> True = messed up, depending on the topic 17:34 < joshcryer> I mena I can see reasons why. 17:35 < joshcryer> But the very fact that those reasons could legitimately exist is messed up. 17:35 < joshcryer> Someone tried arguing to me that Emperor Palpatine (from Star Wars) wasn't as bad as Hitler. 17:35 < joshcryer> Emperor Palpatine blew up a planet! How stupid! 17:35 < joshcryer> :P 17:35 < Lukas____> If it wasn't for the British Empire I wouldn't be such a mish mash of ethnic backgrounds 17:35 < Lukas____> .... 17:35 < Lukas____> well, 17:35 < Lukas____> he wasn't 17:35 < Lukas____> :P 17:35 < joshcryer> I am changing the subject btw. 17:36 < Lukas____> xD 17:36 < joshcryer> Sure, Hitler killed people because of their race / religion / beliefs. Emperor Palpatine blew up a planet because the planets Princess was against him. Way worse. 17:36 < Lukas____> .... 17:36 < joshcryer> Have you not seen Star Wars? Haha 17:36 < Lukas____> Hitler and Palpatine aren't comparable 17:37 < Lukas____> more like Stalin 17:37 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:38 < Lukas____> It was one of those situations where the Galaxy could have the Sith, and some order, or no Sith, and constant war 17:38 < Lukas____> f-ed up choice to make 17:38 < Lukas____> but that was the situation 17:38 < joshcryer> Hmm. 17:39 < Lukas____> kinda like Saddam's Iraq 17:39 < Lukas____> he was a bad guy, but without him 17:39 < Lukas____> you have near constant conflict 17:39 < joshcryer> So when Anikin killed Lord Sidius at the very end, he in fact was not bringing peace, but war? 17:40 < Lukas____> Yes 17:40 < Lukas____> if the books follow the lore 17:40 < Lukas____> still, Palpatine was a bastard, and if I didn't give the subject much thought, I'd kill him too 17:41 < joshcryer> w/e you blow up a planet you are done, period. :P 17:41 < Lukas____> XD 17:42 < Lukas____> And anyway, why make war when there are billions of stars in the Galaxy 17:42 < Lukas____> all you need is a decent ship and some food 17:42 < joshcryer> The very idea was that Palpatine wanted power beyond anything else. 17:43 < joshcryer> ie, a basic good vs evil narrative. 17:43 < Lukas____> Fine, he can have it - I'll be on the other side of the galaxy, in the outer rim, on some obscure planet 17:43 < Lukas____> :P 17:45 < joshcryer> Yes it does sound silly that Star Wars had conflict. 17:45 < joshcryer> Especially when the books make them out to be 10000x more powerful than Star Trek. 17:45 < joshcryer> They're like, super singulatrians without the transhumanism. 17:45 < joshcryer> According to "canon." 17:47 < joshcryer> kanzure, buy a mega millions ticket if it's not too late. 17:47 < joshcryer> That'd be an awesome birthday present. 17:47 < joshcryer> One ticket = even odds. >:P 17:48 < Lukas____> Imagine the projects he'd commit to if he won that sort of money 17:48 < joshcryer> Yeah I am not sure if you know, but it is $355 million. 17:49 < Lukas____> ... 17:49 < Lukas____> excuse me? 17:49 < joshcryer> The jackpot. 17:49 < Lukas____> How old do you have to be to play? 17:50 < Lukas____> With that money, I could go to school and feed my family, and get and apartment near Stony Brook ... and STILL have money to do random projects 17:51 < joshcryer> 18 17:51 < joshcryer> But anyone can get one as a gift. 17:51 < joshcryer> So an 18 year old can give one to a 10 year old as a gift. 17:51 < Lukas____> ........ 17:51 < Lukas____> by Asura 17:52 < Lukas____> thanks for the heads up, I am definitely playing 17:54 < joshcryer> Time is running out to get a ticket though, heh. 17:55 < Lukas____> D: 17:59 < Lukas____> every person of age in my family is playing 17:59 < Lukas____> :) 18:14 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-98-239-176-78.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:14 < delinquentme> *SIGH* i think i just lost a monitor 18:30 < Lukas____> I'm checking out for the night, cya 18:32 -!- Lukas____ [44c29d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.157.4] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:40 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:44 < kanzure> hi genehacker 18:44 < kanzure> genehacker: my new year's project: http://diyhpl.us:9000/random 18:47 < kanzure> jrayhawk: was your pm out of context of something 18:49 < kanzure> jrayhawk: aha. 18:49 < kanzure> http://rifftrax.com/ hmm 18:55 < delinquentme> kanzure, how du bring a monitor back from death 18:55 < kanzure> CRT? 18:56 < delinquentme> westing house flat panel 22" 18:56 < kanzure> flat.. what now? 18:56 < delinquentme> its muh babyyyy 18:56 < delinquentme> its getting power .. bc the light is on .. b ut the power button isnt switching it on 18:59 < kanzure> dunno. doesn't sound like a problem worth replacing the screen for yet.. 18:59 < kanzure> also this title is peculiar. http://diyhpl.us:9000/s/ray-kuzweil-at-the-mit-xprize-bci-workshop 18:59 < kanzure> didn't know they had a bci workshop 19:03 < delinquentme> im watching thsi ralph merkle atm 19:03 < delinquentme> w the atom etching 19:07 < delinquentme> WOOT 19:07 < delinquentme> IT TURNED ON! 19:07 < delinquentme> IT HAB LIFE 19:15 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:21 < genehacker> kanzure happy birthday 19:21 < genehacker> also what's all that stuff? 19:23 < kanzure> genehacker: videos about transhumanism.. and related stuff 19:24 < kanzure> for posting comments/rating videos/reviewing them/summarizing them/asking presenters questions/whateer 19:24 < kanzure> *whatever 19:27 < delinquentme> http://diyhpl.us:9000/s/everybody-wants-to-live-forever-arnold-schwarzenegger 19:27 < delinquentme> lololol 19:31 < kanzure> :) 19:47 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-98-239-176-78.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:06 < kanzure> title is right http://diyhpl.us:9000/s/aubrey-de-grey-s-funniest-interview-ever- 20:13 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:22 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:28 < superkuh> Haha! 20:30 < jrayhawk> 'IndexError at /s/aubrey-de-grey-s-funniest-interview-ever' 20:30 < jrayhawk> oh, bad copy, my bad 20:30 < kanzure> jrayhawk: extra dash at the end 20:30 < kanzure> i should fix that anyway 20:30 < jrayhawk> rxvt betrayed me 20:30 < kanzure> dashes at the end are lame anyway 20:31 < superkuh> "I would like a beard." 20:44 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:52 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 20:58 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:04 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:09 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-76-124-67-155.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:15 < kanzure> well.. at least this seems to work. http://api.embed.ly/1/oembed?url=http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/11129913 21:15 < kanzure> so not all hope is lost. 21:17 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:19 < kanzure> ugh http://diyhpl.us/cgit/meetlog/commit/?id=160bf6cbad6d752d7f2eba367627efba6402b5b4 21:21 < kanzure> i wonder if the effects of happy birthday wishes are accumulative or exponential 21:26 < ybit> congrats on being pushed out of a belly 21 years ago kanzure 21:26 < ybit> something i didn't know about, facebook becoming the most visited site on the web 21:26 < ybit> http://www.hitwise.com/us/press-center/press-releases/facebook-was-the-top-search-term-in-2010-for-sec/ 21:27 -!- shepazu [~schepers@adsl-242-196-155.rmo.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:28 < ybit> directly from the source: http://www.hitwise.com/us/press-center/press-releases/facebook-was-the-top-search-term-in-2010-for-sec/ 21:29 < joshcryer> When facebook is killed it will be a grand day indeed. 21:31 < joshcryer> kanzure your meetlog is scarily comprehensive even if you have been only marginally lax updating it lately. 21:31 < joshcryer> ybit, half a billion people are on Facebook. 21:32 < joshcryer> http://www.facebook.com/press/info.php?statistics 21:32 -!- shepazu [~schepers@adsl-242-196-155.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:33 < joshcryer> kanzure, it needs biasing though. 21:34 < joshcryer> Wait, I won't try to corrupt your external mind-state. 21:34 -!- niftyzero1_ [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:44 < kanzure> meetlog.txt needs biasing? 21:53 -!- niftyzero1_ [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:00 < joshcryer> kanzure, to give you an idea where one stands on an issue. 22:01 < joshcryer> I saw "polywell" for instance, that'd be "fuck no" category for me. 22:01 < joshcryer> I saw "focus fusion," but that might be "meh, hope it works, but doubtful." 22:01 < joshcryer> In that regard neither hold much interest for me. 22:01 < kanzure> yeah i don't do any sort of tag weighting 22:01 < joshcryer> Ah, weighting, yes that's better than biasing. 22:02 < joshcryer> (better wording I mean) 22:02 < kanzure> i also don't keep track of "incoming" or "outgoing", like things i talk about but that others don't engage in, or things other talk about but i don't engage in, whatever 22:02 < joshcryer> Fair enough. 22:02 < joshcryer> It's still an impressive bit of effort, though you probably have a system down now. 22:02 < kanzure> also it's not per-conversation resolution. 22:02 < kanzure> i guess. 22:02 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/cgit/meetlog/plain/meetlog.txt 22:03 < kanzure> heh ranhumanism 22:03 < kanzure> *ranshumanism.. whatever. a tag typo. 22:04 < joshcryer> lol 22:04 < joshcryer> you added bias in there you freak 22:04 < joshcryer> never ceases to amuse me the stuff you add ocassionally 22:04 < kanzure> it was already done 22:04 < kanzure> before you explained 22:05 < kanzure> i sort of assumed i'd be asleep by now 22:05 < joshcryer> sorry if I woke you by mentioning your nick 22:05 < kanzure> no :) 22:05 < joshcryer> What did you do for your bday? 22:05 < kanzure> humanity+ conference call thing, organizing "big stuff" :) 22:06 < joshcryer> Nice :D 22:06 < kanzure> hung out with some friends over lunch and after.. lots of running around, usual daily busyness 22:06 < kanzure> sushi dinner :) 22:07 < kanzure> oh also something on hplusvideo that seemed important at the time but i can't quite remember what 22:07 < kanzure> hplusmagazine.com maintenance bullshit too. 22:10 < joshcryer> The PS3 hackers now have all of the PS3 keys. 22:13 < joshcryer> https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AmWh9I5NKgNddE5NcnlxdHk3Nm9IYVR3djItTE9FT3c&hl=en_GB&output=html 22:13 < joshcryer> Pretty absurd security, right there. 22:13 < joshcryer> Every PS3 ever manufactured to date is irrevocibly ripe for hacking on. 22:14 < joshcryer> So if you want to make a cheap cluster, PS3 may be the way to go still (not sure of Cell's power to computation ratio is better than Intel's Sandybridge, though, maybe not). 22:16 < kanzure> hmm this is weird 22:16 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us:9000/s/everybody-wants-to-live-forever-arnold-schwarzenegger 22:16 < kanzure> where'd it go? 22:18 < joshcryer> whole site appears down 22:19 < kanzure> no just this one seems to have been deleted. 22:20 < joshcryer> Ahh 22:20 < joshcryer> It took forever to load, that's why. 22:20 < joshcryer> (I mean, that's why I thought it was down) 22:21 < joshcryer> I'm getting: IndexError at /s/everybody-wants-to-live-forever-arnold-schwarzenegger 22:21 < joshcryer> And lots of stuff. 22:21 < kanzure> this seems to happen periodically.. not sure why. there's like zero server load 22:21 < kanzure> yeah that's what i'm complaining about, the video is deleted 22:21 < joshcryer> Maybe python is hanging when someone does something they shouldn't do, like access a file that is deleted or something. 22:38 -!- phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - ????????????? ??????. ?????.] 22:39 -!- phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:11 -!- niftyzero1_ is now known as niftyzero1 23:13 < joshcryer> Saw the CCCC Lepht talk in full. 23:13 < joshcryer> She's harmless. Probably gets people talking more than anything. 23:13 < joshcryer> I suggest a cease fire. 23:30 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:39 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Wed Jan 05 00:00:04 2011