--- Log opened Mon Jan 31 00:00:10 2011 00:25 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:29 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:47 < fenn> i dont recognize any of those people 00:49 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:58 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:56 < fenn> ho hum, brain training yadda dadda http://www.lumosity.com/ 02:00 < kanzure> yawn 02:06 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:27 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:31 < fenn> are there actually any studies showing that brain training is accomplishing anything besides training people to do brain training exercises? 02:34 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:45 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:55 < jrayhawk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco_submarine 02:58 < Utopiah> Designerly Ways of Customising (mass customisation) http://www.pourmohamadi.net/home/phd-research-proposal 03:00 < fenn> designerly 03:07 < fenn> i thought this was interesting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_Park 03:07 < fenn> "the apparent addiction to opiate drugs commonly observed in laboratory rats exposed to it is attributable to their living conditions, and not to any addictive property of the drug itself." 05:09 -!- klafka_ [~textual@cpe-74-74-152-155.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:13 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-74-74-152-155.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:05 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:13 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:15 < kanzure> fenn: is it ok yet for me to publicly ask for feedback on package_spec.yaml? 06:43 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:56 < kanzure> i don't know what to do about the yaml formatting, that's not going to fly with 90% of potential contributors 06:56 < kanzure> or 90%+ of readers 06:58 < kanzure> ayah bdeir deleted the Talk page for her open source hardware definition O_o 06:58 < kanzure> "thus there are no outstanding issues, bryan" 07:00 -!- strages [~809e4e63@dev.throwthemind.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:16 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:21 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:27 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:47 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:00 -!- CryptoQuick [~CryptoQui@c-174-51-232-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:02 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:00 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:19 < Utopiah> "assessing human enhancement technologies" http://www.sevenhorizons.org 09:20 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:21 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:52 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:07 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:26 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:27 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:53 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:56 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:56 -!- thesnark [~Snark@snark.ni.utoledo.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:58 -!- strages [~809e4e63@dev.throwthemind.com] has quit [Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)] 10:59 -!- strages [~809e4e63@dev.throwthemind.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:01 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:09 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:16 -!- thesnark [~Snark@snark.ni.utoledo.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:25 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:37 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-89-57.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Quit: uniqanomaly_] 12:44 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:46 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-89-57.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:18 < kanzure> pdfs in case anyone cares http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/hplusmagazine/issues/ 13:40 < kanzure> poll results: 13:40 < kanzure> - Michael Anissimov, 37 votes, 25.00% 13:40 < kanzure> - Bryan Bishop, 25 votes, 16.89% 13:40 < kanzure> - Patri Friedman, 31 votes, 20.95% 13:40 < kanzure> - Ben Goertzel, 38 votes, 25.68% 13:40 < kanzure> - Todd Huffman, 17 votes, 11.49% 13:45 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:45 < QuantumG> and the winner of the poll for smelliest hypster is.. 13:46 < archels> hurra-- wait, what? 13:46 < archels> Does this mean you are in? 13:47 < QuantumG> in-sane 13:58 < kanzure> notie anything wrong with this cover? http://hplusmagazine.com/sites/default/files/images/magazine/cover-fall-2009-2.jpg 13:59 < kanzure> *notice 13:59 < kanzure> archels: i am not 13:59 < kanzure> but it doesn't matter 14:00 < QuantumG> is the H+ logo supposed to have a magnifying glass? 14:00 < kanzure> no 14:00 < kanzure> that's a mouse/cursor 14:00 < QuantumG> fail 14:01 < kanzure> it means someone was taking a screenshot of an image? 14:01 < QuantumG> possibly 14:04 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:29 < kanzure> daveasprey.com is bulletproofguy 14:29 < kanzure> http://biohacked.com/ 14:29 < kanzure> at least he links to life extension foundation 14:34 -!- strages [~809e4e63@dev.throwthemind.com] has quit [Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)] 14:36 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:56 < kanzure> june 15 - 17 is SB5.0 http://e2ma.net/go/6946847573/208451647/219416275/1408008/goto:http://sb5.biobricks.org/registration/ 14:56 < kanzure> ew screw that link 14:56 < kanzure> http://sb5.biobricks.org/registration/ 14:58 < kanzure> oops i meant the bulletproof guy is http://www.asprey.net/ 15:26 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:35 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:37 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:38 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:57 -!- thesnark [83b713b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.183.19.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:04 -!- thesnark [83b713b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.183.19.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:13 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:19 -!- Lukas___ [44c29d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.157.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:21 < Lukas___> Hail 16:22 < Lukas___> My stay shall be short, as college is tiring 16:25 < Lukas___> How are you guys? 16:49 -!- Lukas___ [44c29d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.157.4] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:55 < kanzure> wtf? http://hplusmagazine.com/hplus-mediakit-lowres.pdf 16:56 < kanzure> these numbers are about 10,000 times greater than they should be 17:24 < kanzure> i'm going to run out of "wtf"s soon.. 17:24 < kanzure> http://70.32.108.164/media/winter-09/promo-winter09.mov 17:29 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:33 < AlonzoTG> There are lots of times I get a product, 17:33 < AlonzoTG> electronics, etc, 17:33 < AlonzoTG> But then I use it and I find I don't like one of it's circuits, 17:33 < AlonzoTG> But I'm pretty much screwed and can't change it. =\ 17:34 < AlonzoTG> cuz it's in a PCB, 17:34 < AlonzoTG> or even uses surface mount parts. 17:36 < ThomasEgi> hm.. i encounter the same problem from time to time. usualy i rip out the entire pcb and build my own, re-using only the mechanical parts. 17:38 < kanzure> i just had to.. i'm sorry :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bHlQnb1k_s (i uploaded the "promo") 17:57 -!- Juul [~Juul@static.88-198-13-205.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:06 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-76-125-247-186.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:24 -!- Juul [~Juul@static.88-198-13-205.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:27 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:41 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:46 < QuantumG> hplus failurezine 18:48 < kanzure> Utopiah: http://cognitiveatlas.org/ 18:49 < kanzure> QuantumG: wtf are futurists thinking going into the PUBLISHING INDUSTRY? 18:49 < kanzure> it's like the one industry that we definitely know is going up in smoke 18:57 < kanzure> what should i do to improve the readability of this? 18:57 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/cgit/skdb/plain/doc/package_spec.yaml 18:57 < kanzure> before i email it out and ask for public feedback 18:57 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:16 < fenn> it doesnt really need to be yaml 19:16 < kanzure> what's a suitable alternative? 19:17 < kanzure> html? :P 19:17 < fenn> i like asciidoc, i just haven't bothered to learn it 19:19 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:22 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:34 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:34 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:49 < fenn> genetic algorithms with physics http://boxcar2d.com/ 20:09 < kanzure> i want this for fantastic contraption or incredible machine :( 20:09 < kanzure> oh wait.. this is box2d (fantastic contraption uses the flash-version of box2d) 20:10 < kanzure> what exactly is it selecting for 20:13 < fenn> distance 20:13 < fenn> takes a long time to get anywhere 20:14 * kanzure wishes his dns cache will hurry up and fix itself 20:15 < kanzure> ha! joe was going to call biocurious 'diybiocombinator' 20:16 < fenn> i dont even know what a y combinator is, to be honest 20:17 < kanzure> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/93526/what-is-a-y-combinator 20:18 < kanzure> gah links to links.. i meant http://mvanier.livejournal.com/2897.html 20:24 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:24 < kanzure> ok http://hplusmagazine.com/ has been switched to its wordpress version 20:25 < kanzure> gah links to links.. i meant http://mvanier.livejournal.com/2897.htmly 20:26 < kanzure> if http://hplusmagazine.com/this-sucks says "huh?" then dns has propagated your way 20:26 < fenn> 404 20:26 < kanzure> i need a handful of users to test it and complain if it gets slow or stops working in some important way 20:26 < kanzure> fenn: nginx? then that's the old server.. 20:26 < kanzure> new ip is http://70.32.108.164/ 20:28 < kanzure> haha comment spam has begun 20:28 < kanzure> i'm totally routing this to ben@goertzel.org 20:31 < kanzure> weird, why did dns revert to the old ip? 20:42 < kanzure> poor server is getting raped 20:46 < fenn> i think this is probably the worst explanation of a y combinator ever 20:47 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:01 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:10 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:22 -!- jrabbit [~babyseal@unaffiliated/jrabbit] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:27 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-76-125-247-186.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:30 -!- jrabbit [~babyseal@unaffiliated/jrabbit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:39 < jrayhawk> it was asking for it, wearing that cute little site template 21:47 < kanzure> unicode urls in rewrite rules are messed up :( 21:48 -!- joshcryer [~g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:48 < kanzure> (because i passed the unicode through something that didn't like unicode; probably my paste buffer) 21:51 < joshcryer> http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=3419 21:54 < QuantumG> so joshcryer.. #space has gone back to shit 21:55 < QuantumG> I could just keep /ignoring people on their but I don't see the point 21:56 < QuantumG> er, there 22:03 < joshcryer> I'm disappointed my little Fonera crashed so I can't see the log. 22:03 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:05 < joshcryer> http://newmars.us fixing those forums I used to run 22:05 < joshcryer> can't believe TMS failed so hard 22:07 < joshcryer> http://i.imgur.com/psjCr.png 22:08 < joshcryer> That was when I got off work. 22:08 < joshcryer> The windchill now is -21F. 22:08 < joshcryer> (-29 C) 22:10 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:16 < Utopiah> thanks kanzure 22:48 -!- QuantumG [~qg@rtfm.insomnia.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:01 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:02 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Tue Feb 01 00:00:10 2011