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04:59 < Lukas__> Good morning
05:01 < kanzure> dear hipsters: just because you're coding in rails riding on caltrain does not mean you're a startup
05:01  * kanzure goes back to sleep
05:04 < Lukas__> hull Kanzure
05:04 < Lukas__> hullo*
05:08 < Lukas__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCourseWare
05:09 < Lukas__> http://www.ocwconsortium.org/
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06:21 < uniqanomaly_> http://www.fightaging.org/archives/2011/02/to-die-in-order-to-live-thoughts-on-cryonics-and-legal-hurdles.php
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08:13 < kanzure> hanging out at iftf.. wishing http://diyhpl.us:9000/ was html5/mobile
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08:24 < kanzure> oh man, name tags
08:24 < kanzure> "Bryan Bishop, SKDB Projct"
08:24 < kanzure> serious shit going on here
08:24 < JayDugger> Did you remember to spell "Projct" with an "e" on your badge?
08:25 < kanzure> they printed out the badge without a typo
08:25 < kanzure> (that's my mistake)
08:26 < JayDugger> Good.
08:26 < kanzure> JayDugger: http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing/browse_thread/thread/684ca93086f9ad0d
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08:35 < kanzure> david brin recognized me?
08:47 < kanzure> lol fixing david brin's https errors
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14:15 < Director_X> have some electrical design questions for anyone who knows...
14:15 < Director_X> I have a micro motor and a AAAA battery side by side.  I plan on using an inductive coil for recharging the battery.  Can I wrap a coil around the motor (enclosed) and the battery, or would this not be advisable?
14:20 < ThomasEgi> would depend on the motor and your frequency.
14:20 < ThomasEgi> inductive coils are usualy best kept away from metal.
14:22 < Director_X> would a sleeve of plastic matter?
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14:22 < ThomasEgi> no
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14:23 < Director_X> ok.  good to know.  Thanks ThomasEgi.
14:23 < Director_X> brb
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15:28 < Tyrant> Hey kanzure what was that cloud tag you had for your modes of communication?
15:28 < Tyrant> I lkost the url
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16:10 < kanzure> Tyrant: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/meetlog/tags.2010-08-09-1150.html
16:11 < kanzure> done with the open hardware workshop
16:11 < kanzure> eric wilhelm has  escaped
16:12 < Tyrant> Can you send the link to the code of the long text file?
16:13 < Tyrant> The links are broken in that html file
16:17 < kanzure> transcript from the "open" hardware workshop today i participated in
16:17 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/iftf_open_hardware_future_workshop.html
16:18 < kanzure> Tyrant: http://diyhpl.us/cgit/meetlog/plain/meetlog.txt ?
16:26 < Tyrant> perfect thank you
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18:32 < JayDugger> Good evening, everyone.
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19:30 < kanzure> met with kartik
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19:46 < kanzure> so what's with the embezzlement scandal and money fraud with singularity institute?
19:46 < kanzure> how come this isn't publicized at all
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20:01 < JayDugger> Oh?
20:01 < JayDugger> First I'd heard.
20:01 < JayDugger> Does kartik have a real name?
20:06 < JayDugger> Never mind--found it in meetlog.tst.
20:06 < JayDugger> s/tst/txt/
20:07 < kanzure> kartik wasn't the one who told me, if that's what you're wondering
20:07 < JayDugger> It was. You mentioned his name last.
20:07 < kanzure> i mentioned his name last but i learned about the singinst bullshit yesterday
20:08 < JayDugger> Ah.
20:08 < JayDugger> Well, if it proves true, too bad. If false, also too bad, but less so.
20:08 < JayDugger> Time to commute.
20:08 < JayDugger> Good night, everyone.
20:08 < kanzure> i knew this was all a scam with all these non-profits,
20:09 < kanzure> but i didn't know how illegal it all was
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20:18 < kanzure> fixed:
20:18 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/iftf_open_hardware_future_workshop.html
20:19 < jrayhawk> why haven't you started a non-profit yet
20:20 < kanzure> i told you already to just assume i have
20:20 < kanzure> for all you know the documentation just hasn't gone through yet
20:20 < jrayhawk> this is confusing advice!
20:20 < kanzure> but seriously, what in the holy fuck is up with this shit
20:20 < kanzure> embezzlement? seriously?
20:21 < kanzure> so anyway, i'm dropping humanity+ since i don't really support their latest decisions and lack of sensemaking
20:21 < kanzure> other than using them for money
20:22 < jrayhawk> as bad as giving the gada to h+, apparently it was a better choice than giving it to siai
20:22 < kanzure> siai wouldn't take it because it has some non-knowable risk of totall oblitterating humanity due to the potential for exponential replication and ai-inducing things
20:22 < kanzure> *total
20:22 < jrayhawk> heehee
20:23 < jrayhawk> i'm still voting for Transhumanist Institute for Anthropic Improvement
20:23 < kanzure> just assume i have a non-profit
20:23 < kanzure> really though.
20:23 < kanzure> now what?
20:23 < jrayhawk> it's important to steal useful disenfranchised people from both h+ and siai
20:23 < kanzure> h+ has no useful people
20:24 < kanzure> siai has some software people but whatever..
20:24 < kanzure> software people are a dime a dozen these days
20:24 < kanzure> (and steve :))
20:24 < kanzure> (who is a software person too i guess. hmm)
20:24 < jrayhawk> He's more a mad scientist statistician and philosopher.
20:25 < kanzure> a carefully mad four-points-out-on-thegaussian-distribution scientist
20:26 < kanzure> sometimes i worry that steve will have trouble with the existential risk of tying his shoes one day or something
20:26 < kanzure> but whatever
20:26 < kanzure> these people are all incompetent and useless
20:26 < kanzure> and they have no money
20:27 < kanzure> 'go forth and die' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKcBNysVl-I
20:27 < kanzure> i may or may not have rooted somebody's servers
20:29 < kanzure> a wild fenn appeared! http://www.flickr.com/photos/30844900@N05/5490206092/
20:34 < kanzure> jrayhawk: maybe you mean 'useful rich disenfranchised people' but siai keeps a deathgrip on all funding sources really
20:35 < kanzure> kartik brought up an interesting point tonight,
20:36 < kanzure> that really the non-profit circuits that usually donate money for things like 'poverty' and 'aid'
20:36 < kanzure> haven't really been hit up for open source stuff much
20:36 < kanzure> most non-profits hold on to IP as some sort of revenue stream (from licensing agreements and other bullshit)
20:37 < kanzure> so saying "more of your money goes to actually useful shit and oh you can use it too" is cool and all
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20:59 < kanzure> jmil: workshop transcript notes from today iftf_open_hardware_future_workshop.html
20:59 < kanzure> oops
20:59 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/iftf_open_hardware_future_workshop.html
20:59 < kanzure> also, did anyone else see todd's picture in the wall street journal today? front page
20:59 < kanzure> i woke up at the hotel and it was slapped on my table..
21:00 < kanzure> grandma emailed me the article asking if BIL would be something i'd be interested in (which is really creepy, since she doesn't usually know who my friends are)
21:11 < jmil> kanzure: w0w thanks!
21:11 < jmil> saved to my HD
21:12 < jmil> ooh can you put a couple notes at the top of the file of the event and the date etc.?
21:12 < kanzure> no problem.. i usually take transcripts at these sorts of events and conferences
21:12 < jmil> also kanzure i am gonna submit my paper on friday. it is finally done :D
21:12 < jmil> now we will just play the waiting game for 6 months
21:12 < kanzure> this was institute for the future and their 'future of open fabrication / future of open hardware' workshop
21:12 < kanzure> mathias at iftf was building a thingomatic but he discovered how much it sucks
21:13 < jebba> kanzure, nice notes. I like how anthony ends it  haha
21:13 < kanzure> i don't really know why he made one, he doesn't seem like he had a use for it :P
21:16 < kanzure> (he's on iftf staff, i mean)
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21:20 < kanzure> http://plover.stenoknight.com/ hmm.. maaaaybe...
21:23 < jmil> plover is on my list of must-do someday
21:23 < jmil> dvorak keyboard has been officially booted permanently
21:23 < kanzure> what speeds do you get?
21:23 < kanzure> on plover
21:23 < kanzure> on qwerty i'm maxing out at 12 characters per second at most...
21:23 < jmil> it's something ridiculous like 300 wpm
21:23 < jmil> or did i make that up
21:23  * jmil looks
21:24 < kanzure> i can get to 120 to maybe 150... maaybe.
21:24 < jmil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3MYFT6VZk8&feature=player_embedded
21:25 < jmil> writers describe it as completely freeing because you get so freaking close to thought-to-text
21:25 < jmil> and you never have to think about spelling
21:25 < jmil> it's way philosophically superior
21:25 < jmil> to any other input method
21:25 < jmil> ya 240 wpm is close to upper limit apparently
21:26 < jmil> description: http://plover.stenoknight.com/2010/12/plover-espeak-conversational-realtime.html
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