--- Log opened Thu Mar 31 00:00:11 2011 00:00 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 00:11 -!- mjr [mjr@aulis.sange.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:18 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:26 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:26 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:27 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:37 -!- devrandom [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:40 -!- nchaimov_ [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:40 -!- nchaimov_ [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:44 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:52 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 01:13 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:54 < fenn> i'm going to model my presentation on this one http://youtube.com/watch?v=wyrFWbGiGOc 01:54 < fenn> (rachel sequoia) 02:02 < fenn> (the follow-up to the above presentation) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDOHEWMXXyk 03:03 < Utopiah> http://voxilate.blogspot.com/2009/10/batching-mechanical-turk-jobs-at.html 03:04 < Utopiah> or rather http://code.google.com/p/turkpipe/ 03:08 < ybit> heh 03:10 < ybit> this is a joke right? 03:10 < ybit> she's the neil hamburger of startup presentations i'm hoping 03:48 < splicer> fenn: best presentation I've seen in a long time ;D 04:00 < splicer> It's a viral by company called 'spiral moon media' apparently 05:12 < Utopiah> (more on FPGA for HFT http://infpga.com/products/ http://www.exegy.com/# ) 05:51 -!- klord [~klord@71.21.100.11] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:52 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:57 -!- klord [~klord@71.21.100.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:00 -!- archels [~neuralnet@unaffiliated/archels] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:00 -!- klord [~klord@71.21.100.11] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:07 -!- klord [~klord@71.21.100.11] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:08 -!- klord [~klord@64.39.5.118] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:13 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@78.8.211.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:14 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:18 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:24 -!- klord [~klord@64.39.5.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:26 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-218-48.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:31 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:42 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:59 -!- strages [~qwebirc@dev.throwthemind.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:00 -!- klord [~klord@32.138.62.108] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:14 -!- klord [~klord@32.138.62.108] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:22 -!- klord [~klord@64.39.4.132] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:24 -!- mjr [mjr@aulis.sange.fi] has quit [Quit: Back to home server - http://rauhala.org/] 07:25 -!- mjr [mjr@2001:1bc8:102:60d4:21b:fcff:fe32:5eda] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:30 -!- splicer [~splicer@194.153.60.213] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.16/20110319135224]] 08:38 < kanzure> https://github.com/ambiversive/antischismogenesis/ 08:38 < kanzure> i can't really tell how the php correlates to the description: 08:38 < kanzure> http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/gf20b/would_you_be_interested_in_a_website_that_tells/c1n4bn4 08:44 < kanzure> oh well, i posted a spamvertisement if any of you redditors want to upvote me: 08:44 < kanzure> http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/gf20b/would_you_be_interested_in_a_website_that_tells/c1n6zhr 08:46 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:52 -!- devrandom [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:03 -!- strages [~qwebirc@dev.throwthemind.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:05 -!- mjr [mjr@2001:1bc8:102:60d4:21b:fcff:fe32:5eda] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:05 -!- mjr [mjr@2001:1bc8:102:60d4:21b:fcff:fe32:5eda] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:09 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:15 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:43 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:03 < kanzure> random list of longevity projects 11:03 < kanzure> http://aginginterventionfoundation.org/details/projects/ 11:03 < kanzure> the site looks like shit, i don't know how they expect to raise that much money with such an awful site 11:12 < kanzure> jaded meh-action go! http://opensource.com/life/11/3/nasa-concludes-first-open-source-summit-aims-make-openness-default 11:13 < kanzure> plus a google doc? http://opensource.com/life/11/3/nasa-concludes-first-open-source-summit-aims-make-openness-default 11:47 -!- devrandom [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:48 -!- strages_ [~qwebirc@dev.throwthemind.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:21 -!- jmil_ [~jmil@SEAS083.wlan.seas.upenn.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:21 < kanzure> http://diybio.org/codes 12:21 < kanzure> the mom just called because she just read 'biopunk: hacking the software of life' 12:22 < kanzure> apparently i bike a lot and drink soda 12:24 -!- jmil_ [~jmil@SEAS083.wlan.seas.upenn.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 12:25 -!- klafka [~textual@129.21.75.19] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:25 -!- jmil [~jmil@2001:468:1802:e148:223:32ff:feb1:9dfc] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:26 -!- jmil [~jmil@SEAS083.wlan.seas.upenn.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:28 -!- jmil [~jmil@SEAS083.wlan.seas.upenn.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:28 -!- jmil [~jmil@SEASNet-148-05.seas.upenn.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:29 < kanzure> also it implies that i either (1) SPENT MILLIONS on robots 12:30 < kanzure> or (2) intentionally lied 12:30 < kanzure> if i'm going to be blamed for #2 then i might as well've'd lied and made up some shit about living in a volcano 12:30 < kanzure> under the sea. 12:31 < kanzure> http://www.amazon.com/Biopunk-Scientists-Hack-Software-Life/dp/1617230022 12:32 < enki-[quit]> kanzure: a volcano shaped like a human skull? 12:32 < kanzure> hell, shaped like ten human skulls! 12:40 -!- klafka [~textual@129.21.75.19] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:41 < Utopiah> (sounds like a project for Dubai) 12:44 -!- klafka [~textual@129.21.75.19] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:01 -!- strages_ [~qwebirc@dev.throwthemind.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:23 -!- jmil [~jmil@SEASNet-148-05.seas.upenn.edu] has quit [Quit: jmil] 13:43 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:43 < kanzure> this is sad because it's true :( http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmedia/2z/abi/sf1s/54948/800641213.jpg 13:43 < kanzure> screws need gps 13:53 < kanzure> fenn are you aruond 13:53 < kanzure> around 13:55 -!- klord [~klord@64.39.4.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:14 -!- augur [~augur@pool-74-96-8-204.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:19 -!- augur [~augur@pool-74-96-8-204.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:30 -!- augur [~augur@96.231.225.129] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:30 -!- klafka [~textual@129.21.75.19] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:35 -!- augur [~augur@96.231.225.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:48 -!- augur [~augur@pool-74-96-16-252.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:48 -!- augur [~augur@pool-74-96-16-252.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00 -!- augur [~augur@pool-74-96-16-252.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:02 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:08 < Tyrant> hows it going kanzure 15:09 < kanzure> about to go read marcus' 'biopunk' book 15:09 < kanzure> dunno if he's emailed you about that yet 15:10 -!- augur [~augur@pool-74-96-16-252.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:16 < Tyrant> Marcus is the open source agriculture guy? 15:16 < kanzure> no, marcus is the ap reporter who wrote about meredith 15:16 < Tyrant> ah 15:17 < Tyrant> no he hasn't contacted me 15:28 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:37 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:42 < kanzure> "Alert: someone has logged into /secretycdemo2011" 15:42 < kanzure> OH SHIT 15:45 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:01 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:04 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:08 -!- jennicide [jen@173-28-54-210.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:08 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:10 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:22 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:44 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:46 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:48 < kanzure> fenn: are you around? 16:48 -!- Daeken [~daeken@straylight.daeken.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:48 < kanzure> Daeken: now we wait for fenn :p 16:48 < Daeken> knew i forgot to add something to my autojoin 16:49 < kanzure> basically h+ might be dumping money on a heads-up display 16:49 < kanzure> in an ideal scenario i'm going to make it so that they can't micromanage the project 16:49 < kanzure> figured you're latest interests are relevant 16:49 < Daeken> ah, cool 16:50 < Daeken> how open is it gonna have to be? that's my primary concern up front :P 16:50 < kanzure> so i or someone else needs to assemble a spec document or something brief for the latest h+ fundraising campaign 16:50 < kanzure> somewhere between $20k to $100k 16:50 < kanzure> well, "open source hardware", generally 16:50 < Daeken> hmm.. 16:50 < Daeken> depending on what exactly that means, it could either be workable or a dealbreaker 16:51 < kanzure> why's that 16:51 < kanzure> also holyshit yc logged into my demo 16:52 < Daeken> so, specs to build the hardware freely are a no-go, for sure -- the intention is to build it ourselves up front and license it out in the future 16:52 < Daeken> open source software, not a problem (it's intended that it will be) 16:52 < kanzure> and why can't you use permissive sublicensing? 16:52 < kanzure> of the tech 16:52 < Daeken> that may be possible, but it really depends on the exact constraints in question 16:54 -!- drazak [~ahdfadkfa@drazak.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:56 < kanzure> huh someone just emailed me an excerpt of the biopunk book 16:56 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/bryan-bishop-the-biopunk.pdf 16:57 < kanzure> Daeken: are you familiar with the 'model patent license' from creative commons? 16:57 < kanzure> basically, it's a way to permissively sublicense mann's patent 16:57 < kanzure> if you get it :) 16:58 < Daeken> yea, there are a number of ways to sublicense it 16:58 < Daeken> just a matter of finding something that we can agree on 16:58 < Tyrant> Hey kanzure, know of any cool stuff on thingiverse that can be 3d printed/milled as a gift? 17:00 < kanzure> Tyrant: there's lots of stuff on ponoko.com and shapeways.com that can be specifically bought as gifts 17:01 < kanzure> but i'd just look under thingiverse's 'popular' category and sort by tags related to games- there's some neat, random stuff but no general category for it 17:02 < Tyrant> kanzure, looking for more stuff i can mill on a 4 axis cnc, not buy 17:02 < Tyrant> its a gift for the organizers of the Thiel foundation 17:04 < kanzure> a ball bearing? 17:04 < kanzure> i can't think of anything :p 17:05 < Tyrant> haha 17:08 -!- drazak [~ahdfadkfa@drazak.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:10 < kanzure> oh shit my interview came out 17:10 < kanzure> http://www.thefutureandyou.libsyn.com/ 17:10 < kanzure> part 1: http://traffic.libsyn.com/thefutureandyou/TFAY_2011_3_16.mp3 17:10 < kanzure> part 2: http://traffic.libsyn.com/thefutureandyou/TFAY_2011_3_23.mp3 17:16 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:18 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:34 < Tyrant> kanzure, know of any repositories for CAD models in general? 17:34 < kanzure> depends on how OK you are with the repo being spammy.. 17:34 < kanzure> there's traceparts.. but it's very spammy, with a large catalog 17:35 < kanzure> there's also the solidworks one.. uh.. 3dcontentcentral? 17:35 < kanzure> there's also a mesh-model repository called google warehouse 17:45 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:48 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:52 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:08 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:16 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:32 -!- Daeken [~daeken@straylight.daeken.com] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 18:33 -!- Daeken [~daeken@straylight.daeken.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:44 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:48 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:55 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:56 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:57 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:04 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:05 -!- nchaimov_ [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:05 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:05 -!- nchaimov_ is now known as nchaimov 19:13 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 19:13 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:14 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:14 < ybit> kanzure: it didn't sound you like you spent millions on robots, sounded like you got it for a million or less :) 19:14 < ybit> neither did i get the impression that you were lying, it sounded more like you just didn't want to reveal your income source at the time 19:14 < ybit> which i think you were under constract or something at the time anyway 19:15 < kanzure> yeah, my worry was when it was my mom telling me what she read 19:15 < kanzure> so i guess she didn't read it carefully 19:16 < ybit> i do like the way it reads though 19:18 < ybit> reads/is written, whatever 19:20 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:21 < ybit> But unlike most people his age, drinking seemed low on his list of interests anyway. On this muggy June night he had other thingson his mind, like what to do with the industrial-strength robotic arm he had just bought off Craigslist. 19:21 < ybit> "Check it out," he said, showing off a smart phone photo of the arm in the bed of a pickup truck like a proud dad showing off pictures of his new baby. "We drove around with it in the back of the truck for a while just to mess with people. Do you know what kind of looks you get when you're hauling around a robotic arm 19:21 < ybit> how can you not like that 19:21 < kanzure> that was with elevenarms, btw 19:21 < kanzure> he's doing hoppersdk.com with me 19:28 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:32 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:34 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:37 < kanzure> ybit: how about the podcast 19:39 < ybit> it went well, one of my friends at one time would get on to me for saying process-ees like you did toward the end, but i think so many people are mispronouncing it, it's become acceptable 19:39 < kanzure> yeah, i usually say processes but i guess something jumped into my brain for process-seas 19:40 < kanzure> ok cool 19:50 -!- devrandom [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:56 < kanzure> power rangers on dinosaurs? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NzxThmY44w 20:20 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:28 -!- klafka [~textual@74-44-87-202.dsl2-plymouth.roch.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:30 -!- klafka [~textual@74-44-87-202.dsl2-plymouth.roch.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:46 -!- klafka [~textual@74-44-87-202.dsl2-plymouth.roch.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:46 -!- klafka [~textual@74-44-87-202.dsl2-plymouth.roch.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:51 -!- klafka [~textual@74-44-87-202.dsl2-plymouth.roch.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:36 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:45 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:58 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:02 -!- klafka [~textual@74-44-87-202.dsl2-plymouth.roch.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:23 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:38 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:52 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:20 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: jmil] 23:49 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:52 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:55 -!- CryptoQuick [~CryptoQui@c-174-51-232-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Fri Apr 01 00:00:10 2011