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09:39 < kanzure> pfft "A tremendous introduction to one of the most exciting branches of individual superempowerment emerging today."
09:43 < kanzure> oh hm that guy is in austin
09:46 < kanzure> looks like bullshit to me http://www.webuildplatforms.com/
09:46 < kanzure> diybio european congress http://groups.google.com/group/london-hack-space/browse_thread/thread/d90d1ee1d9a211e5
09:46 < kanzure> http://www.socal-diybio.org/Electrophysiology_station
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09:58 < kanzure> "a very super saiyan christmas"
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12:28 < enki-[quit]> http://earslap.com/projectslab/otomata/?q=480z4q8k5m2v3s6d444t1z7k1j457l4y306c5o2h
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13:33 < ybit> bacterial calculator...
13:33 < ybit> i know it's been done... linkage anyone, i can't find because i apparently suck at life
13:34 < ybit> also, some guy from the diybio list is talking to me, mentioned something about a nightcrawler calculator
13:34 < ybit> ..he can't find it and neither can i, if anyone recalls this, knows who did it, that would be interesting to read as well
13:36 < ybit> pretty sure it was done by some IGEM team previously
13:36 < ybit> the bacterial calculator
13:37 < ybit> i wonder who that guy really was
13:38 < ybit> pidgin told me that convolutingconsciousness@gmail.com wanted to add me as a friend
13:39 < ybit> i add him and his email shows up as emancipatedsquirell@gmail.com
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13:41 < ybit> meh, maybe it was google's 503 error that through me off, could just used intentionally odd email addresses
13:41 < ybit> s/used/use
13:52 < kanzure> you can set your display name to be whatever, on gmail
13:52 < kanzure> so one of those is his display names ("alias")
14:05 < kanzure> stay classy, diybio http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/t/710a3f2c19869a27
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17:12 < kanzure> http://brainstimulant.blogspot.com/2008/06/tdcs.html (yes it's old)
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18:09 < ybit> the internets were wrong!
18:11 < ybit> was trying to clean the ccd/low pass filter of one of the webcams using a cheap-o method of applying scotch tape, now all i see is residue from the tape :\
18:12 < AlonzoTG> Who is the real Nick Bostrom?
18:12 < kanzure> anders sandberg
18:12 < AlonzoTG> I remember reading some of the drafts of Nick Bostrom's FAQ of transhumanism,
18:12 < ybit> http://i.imgur.com/cG8Qh.jpg
18:12 < AlonzoTG> and it was a total fanboi piece.
18:12 < AlonzoTG> for uploading.
18:13 < AlonzoTG> But now I read the final copy and it is reasonably objective and well balanced.
18:13 < kanzure> nick bostrom's FAQ was just him putting his name on someone else's FAQ, actually
18:13 < kanzure> it was originally a collaborative piece of writing
18:13 < kanzure> anyway, bostrom doesn't really matter
18:13 < kanzure> anders does most of nick's writing these days anyway
18:13 < AlonzoTG> HA!
18:13 < AlonzoTG> =P
18:14 < AlonzoTG> I must say that anders has an impressive intellect and is an amazing scholar...
18:14 < kanzure> uh
18:14 < kanzure> the dude flaked
18:14 < ybit> sebastian never got back with me on an email i sent to him about gitduino
18:14 < AlonzoTG> ???
18:15 < ybit> maybe i was filtered as spam or something
18:15 < kanzure> ybit: you can bug him in #reprap (sebastienb)
18:15 < kanzure> AlonzoTG: ending up as a professor of philosophy? come on..
18:15 < AlonzoTG> I have read some of Anders' writing and was most impressed with it despite strongly disagreeing with it.
18:15 < kanzure> his job wasn't to impress anyone
18:15 < ybit> i go there first, but never see him
18:15 < AlonzoTG> What do you think is his job?
18:16 < kanzure> he's presently working at oxford under nick bostrom
18:16 < kanzure> but he used to be a transhumanist
18:16 < AlonzoTG> I like thinking of myself as a quack philosopher myself so I hold people who seem to be doing it at least partly right in high regards.
18:16 < AlonzoTG> ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
18:16 < AlonzoTG> I don't understand.
18:16 < kanzure> oh so all of your uploading paranoia is just philosophy?
18:17 < AlonzoTG> I was certain that Anders was and is still a very hard-core transhumanist.
18:17 < kanzure> just because he hosts the website?
18:17 < kanzure> *that website
18:18 < AlonzoTG> No, I have concrete proof that there is a nucleus of hard-core uploaders who would rather see a few quadrillion tons of computronium in place of the Earth, of that I have proof.
18:19 < kanzure> i don't have time to go through these logs but basically your paranoia is that you think someone is coming to get you RIGHT NOW and "upload" you in the wave of computronium
18:19 < kanzure> changing stories isn't fair on me
18:19 < kanzure> inconsistent trolls are the worst :(
18:19 < AlonzoTG> I'm sorry that you were basing your opinion of me on a misunderstanding.
18:20 < ybit> engineers without borders and OSE would fit nicely
18:20 < kanzure> you'd think so, but EWBs for some reason are really into IP
18:21 < ybit> hrm
18:22 < ybit> i'll be heading to a few meetings before long, the guy i spoke to yesterday was highly interested in the OSE concept
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18:22 < AlonzoTG> OSE = ?
18:24 < kanzure> AlonzoTG: http://www.ted.com/talks/marcin_jakubowski.html
18:25 < JayDugger> Open Source Ecology
18:27 < ybit> anyway, a platform to tie them and others together would be even nicer
18:27 < ybit> *cough*
18:30 < JayDugger> I could certainly use their compressed earth bricks.
18:31 < ybit> JayDugger: for what
18:32 < ybit> i want it too
18:32 < ybit> i bought some feed bags recently, starting construction on an eartbag building soon
18:32 < JayDugger> Oh?
18:33 < ybit> oh.
18:33 < JayDugger> How will you use the building?
18:34 < ybit> i don't know yet, i don't like the idea of a gasifier to produce my energy, so i'm thinking of just making a community workshop (hackerspace)
18:34 < ybit> or a building to hold all my stuff
18:35 < ybit> that made no sense
18:35 < JayDugger> The gasifier's a bit off-topic, but the rest made sense.
18:36 < ybit> well.. it's perfectly on-topic since it's in the middle of nowhere and you have to get energy somehow :)
18:36 < ybit> it just wasn't tied in very well and still isn't
18:36 < JayDugger> I understand better now.
18:37 < ybit> the only other option is solar or throwing down some large wooden poles that won't go away
18:39 < JayDugger> What use would the "large wooden poles" have?
18:40 < ybit> feeding power from the grid
18:40 < JayDugger> Oh. Duh.
18:42 < ybit> kanzure: is sebastian ever online?
18:42 < ybit> i never see him on #reprap
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21:19 < AlonzoTG> Home fabrication is great and all but the only thing I care about is bionic boobies, If it doesn't have to do with bionic boobies, it isn't transhumanism. =P
21:20 < kanzure> bionic? why not the real deal
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21:27 < ybit> kanzure: i want copy copy of gnusha.svg since my hdd is essentially dead
21:27 < ybit> want to fix it up
21:28 < ybit> never quite finished it
21:29 < ybit> when i get depressed i start drawing, it's weird
21:30 < ybit> ah found a backup, nm
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21:41 < kanzure> it's in skdb.git somewhere
21:46 < AlonzoTG> =P
21:47 < AlonzoTG> Well, bionic only because it sounds good with boobies, no other real reason... On the other hand, achieving sizes on the order of several tons would seem to require bionic augmentation...
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