--- Log opened Mon Apr 25 00:00:10 2011 00:00 < kanzure> logs: http://gnusha.org/logs/ 00:00 < sbailard_> Right. 00:00 < sbailard_> Will do. 00:00 < sbailard_> Does piny have clear docs, btw? 00:00 < kanzure> there are man pages 00:01 < kanzure> so if you want to use django, why not just use rails instead and use gitorious? 00:01 < kanzure> this is what we talked about last time but it seems that it has either gone over your head or through it via the ears... 00:01 < sbailard_> Ok. I'll install piny. I'll also review our earlier conversation so that I'm not wasting your time. 00:02 < kanzure> why are you installing piny 00:02 -!- haans [~tinyirc@cpe-76-88-36-153.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:02 < sbailard_> sorry kanzure, my attention span is shot these days. 00:02 < CryptoQuick> hey haans :) 00:02 < haans> hey crypto 00:02 < CryptoQuick> I hope you guys don't mind I invited my bud to discuss some of my ideas 00:02 < CryptoQuick> so, yeah, I made a doc, AuxRep 00:02 < CryptoQuick> A replicative machine system using metals and few electronic parts such as motors. 00:03 < kanzure> sbailard_: ok cool 00:03 < sbailard_> Yeah, I'm very sorry about that. 00:03 < kanzure> about what? 00:03 < sbailard_> dropping packets, mentally. 00:03 < kanzure> can you please just tell me what you currently think is going on? 00:03 < CryptoQuick> haans: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LIh5c57DvhwAPZmDlwCrpAJe1CkJL-09M07sVjnaVdE/edit?hl=en 00:03 < sbailard_> gitduino is based on piny. 00:04 < kanzure> there's just a git post-receive hook 00:04 < kanzure> git hooks work regardless of what git hosting system you have 00:04 < kanzure> well, depending on where you put the data at the end of the hook 00:04 < sbailard_> and piny is separate from ikiwiki, but http://piny.be/piny-code/ looks like an ikiwiki page. 00:05 < kanzure> piny is a git hosting platform, where each git repo has a wiki inside of it, which gets compiled to html whenever it's updated 00:05 < sbailard_> ah. 00:06 < sbailard_> so, when a new guy walks up gitduino and creates new-page/upload, it will spawn a new git-repository for him, and then all new pages by him will be part of that new wiki? 00:07 < kanzure> no only when a user creates a new project or a fork of a project will a new repository be created 00:08 < sbailard_> ok. 00:08 < kanzure> i haven't determined what would happen for "editing a wiki page"-- the default git concept is to fork and then submit a pull request to the original wiki maintainer (project owner), 00:09 < kanzure> but most people don't expect this workflow for anonymous fly-by edits, so there might eventually be a "enable anonymous edits on this repository's wiki" option in a menu somewhere 00:10 < sbailard_> Ah. Behavior-wise, would we want that enabled by default? 00:10 < kanzure> is that really important right now :p 00:10 < sbailard_> Well, no. 00:10 < kanzure> oh btw 00:10 < kanzure> thanks for removing the passwords from that reprap wiki dump a while back 00:11 < sbailard_> That was the right way, right? 00:11 < kanzure> i uploaded the dump to the web and then realized the passwords might have been in there 00:11 < kanzure> yes 00:11 < sbailard_> sigh-of-relief. 00:11 < kanzure> anywho disaster averted 00:12 < sbailard_> coming back to piny, when anthong redbeard or similar is doing up css and skinning the site, that will be working with piny, we won't have another toolset "wrapper" for piny. 00:13 < kanzure> why would a wrapper influence css ? 00:14 < kanzure> anyway, no, whether piny's default ikiwiki site generator is used is up to whoever is writing code 00:14 < sbailard_> I'm mostly making sure there's not django or similar in the mix. 00:14 < sbailard_> I mean, you just told me. 00:14 < kanzure> again, like we talked about last time, if you were to learn a web framework, the most apt plan would be to learn some rails and work on gitorious (a git hosting platform in rails) 00:15 < sbailard_> right, but that has nothing to do with what you're building. 00:15 < kanzure> why not 00:15 < kanzure> it's programming.. you make what you want 00:16 < kanzure> like i said gitduino "officially" has a git post-receive hook, and that's it, the other stuff is just glue 00:16 < kanzure> honestly i don't think you would enjoy working on piny since it's not a web framework bandwagon like django or rails 00:17 < kanzure> aw :( my headset just died. 10 hours of dbz drained it. 00:17 < sbailard_> dbz? 00:18 * sbailard_ is guessing that's not dragonball z. 00:19 < kanzure> it's dragonball z. 00:19 < sbailard_> Fun. 00:20 < sbailard_> I need to get back into anime. 00:20 * kanzure goes back to work 00:20 < sbailard_> kanzure, I'll review this and our last talk. 00:20 < sbailard_> Thank you for being patient. 00:22 < sbailard_> It's late here, I need to sign off. 00:23 < sbailard_> night. 00:23 < CryptoQuick> night :) 00:24 < sbailard_> Cheers, all. 00:25 -!- sbailard_ [~sbailard@69.165.149.65] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 01:00 < kanzure> bryan's plan for longevity: 01:00 < kanzure> be a little less dead than yesterday 01:03 -!- CryptoQuick [~CryptoQui@174.51.232.237] has quit [Quit: Join New Direction in Space on Facebook! http://is.gd/cq2CEC] 01:15 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-94-33.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:43 -!- streety [streety@li139-74.members.linode.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:54 < kanzure> hi streety 02:54 < streety> hi, znc broke on me 03:16 -!- haans [~tinyirc@cpe-76-88-36-153.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: I was using TinyIRC! Visit http://www.tinyirc.net/ for more information.] 03:24 -!- devrandom [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:27 -!- devrandom [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:02 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:14 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:17 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-ff01dd00-112.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:58 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-79-43.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:03 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:19 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 06:20 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:42 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:52 -!- strages [c6740838@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.116.8.56] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:53 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:01 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe13dd00-52.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:02 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe13dd00-52.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe13dd00-52.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:05 -!- Erik49 [~Erik@2002:86ae:9793::86ae:9793] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:15 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:35 -!- alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279556049.dsl.bell.ca] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:51 -!- Erik49 [~Erik@2002:86ae:9793::86ae:9793] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:52 -!- Erik49 [~Erik@2002:86ae:9793::86ae:9793] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:03 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:20 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:24 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:28 -!- mheld_ [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:30 -!- mheld_ [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 09:18 -!- alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279556049.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:28 -!- |Helleshin| is now known as Helleshin 10:52 -!- mayko_ [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:52 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:53 -!- mayko_ [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has quit [Client Quit] 10:54 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:01 < kanzure> "hi bryan, i got your name from this book im reading... and noticed you're in austin" 11:03 < dbolser> ur ina book? 11:04 < kanzure> 'biopunk' 11:04 < dbolser> orly? 11:04 -!- strages [c6740838@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.116.8.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:27 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:29 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:56 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:59 -!- Erik49- [~Erik@vpn-host-130-5.uwm.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:01 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:02 -!- Erik49 [~Erik@2002:86ae:9793::86ae:9793] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:04 -!- Erik49- [~Erik@vpn-host-130-5.uwm.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:19 -!- strages [c6740838@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.116.8.56] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:26 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-94-33.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Quit: uniqanomaly] 14:03 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:08 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:17 -!- ybit [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:17 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:18 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:18 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:19 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:16 < kanzure> reality check: should this union operation work? 15:16 < kanzure> cone 1: center=(1, 0.1, 0.1), vector: (0, 0, 10) 15:16 < kanzure> cone 2: center=(1, 1, 0.1), vector: (0, 0, 10) 15:21 < kanzure> "Intersection Curves do not close properly" 15:27 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:28 < kanzure> haha what? if i change cone1 center to (1, 0, 0) on a "known-good" it doesn't work.. has to be 0.1 15:29 < kanzure> this is pretty lame 15:31 -!- strages [c6740838@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.116.8.56] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:09 -!- jennicide [jen@173-29-174-114.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:30 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:57 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:14 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:23 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:34 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:48 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:08 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone. 18:43 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:45 -!- augur [~augur@pool-74-96-18-33.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:56 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:09 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:16 -!- augur [~augur@pool-74-96-18-33.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:50 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:25 < fenn> a decidedly non-transhumanist approach to information overload http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2011/04/21/135508305/the-sad-beautiful-fact-that-were-all-going-to-miss-almost-everything?sc=tw&cc=share 21:52 < kanzure> the title seems like masturbation considering the ending of the article 21:59 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:01 < AlonzoTG> om 22:04 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:16 -!- katsmeow-afk [~someone@75-120-21-121.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:17 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:17 < katsmeow-afk> ybit , you have tornado WARNING , that storm dropped a possible F5 on a town in Arkansas and wiped it off the map 22:18 < katsmeow-afk> http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Summary.aspx?location=USAR0336 22:30 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:34 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36 -!- jrayhawk [~jrayhawk@neuroblastoma.cs.pdx.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:38 < kanzure> i'd like to point out that jrayhawk is officially offline, for once 22:40 < fenn> quick, torrent porn with his servers! 22:40 < kanzure> isn't he already doing that 22:41 < kanzure> s/porn/bad porn/ 22:41 < fenn> quick, download nature! 22:42 * katsmeow-afk waves hi to fenn and others 22:42 < kanzure> who are you? 22:42 < katsmeow-afk> kat 22:42 < katsmeow-afk> memory going bad? 22:42 * katsmeow-afk was in here when the channel had only 5 people, and they all spoke 22:43 < fenn> she's going to secede from the U.S. on a submarine, or something 22:44 < fenn> because arkansas sucks 22:44 < fenn> er, alabama 22:44 < katsmeow-afk> alafuckingbama 22:44 < fenn> you said arkansas first :P 22:45 < katsmeow-afk> logs? 22:45 < kanzure> http://gnusha.org/logs/ 22:45 < fenn> "that storm dropped a possible F5 on a town in Arkansas and wiped it" 22:46 < katsmeow-afk> fenn, doesn't mean i was there, the strom is headed to ybit, so i thought he could use fair warning 22:46 < ybit> ah fuck 22:46 < ybit> i just want to sleep 22:46 < ybit> thanks for the heads up katsmeow-afk 22:46 < katsmeow-afk> look at url 22:46 < katsmeow-afk> 22:47 < ybit> think i might sleep 22:47 < ybit> might prefer to be asleep when i die anyway 22:47 < ybit> can someone lend me a tub sleep under? 22:48 < katsmeow-afk> well, the cloudtops have dropped considerably, so you might be safe 22:48 < ybit> +to 22:48 < ybit> i live literally right beside the tornado siren.. so i'll know when i'm about to die 22:49 < ybit> no sleeping for me if death is near me 22:49 < katsmeow-afk> not in alafuckingbama, it could hit on the other side of the county, and they'd still wake you 22:49 < ybit> heh 22:49 < ybit> this is very true 22:49 < katsmeow-afk> what's the stuff what they melt rock and centrifuge it into fibers? 22:49 < ybit> ? 22:50 < ybit> i'm not sure 22:50 < ybit> time for sleep 22:50 * ybit waves gn 22:50 < katsmeow-afk> i thought it was the trademarked RockWool, but someone is atm not knowing what we are talking about 22:50 < katsmeow-afk> good sleeps, hope you're safe 22:56 < katsmeow-afk> ok, well, bye 22:56 -!- katsmeow-afk [~someone@75-120-21-121.dyn.centurytel.net] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 23:03 < fenn> basalt fiber 23:03 < fenn> bah 23:26 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-66-66-10-44.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] --- Log closed Tue Apr 26 00:00:10 2011