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05:50 < delinquentme> so im wondering about the types of modeling which someone would run through amazons super computers
05:51 < delinquentme> im guessing thousands of iterations of particular reactions ? has anyone done this? i want to try it
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07:16 < kanzure> http://www.premsela.org/en/peoples-republic_1/open-design-now_1/
07:17 < kanzure> http://ohanda.vzsze.de/ their new website
07:21 < kanzure> what? makerbot industries has 32 employees now
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07:23 < kanzure> and sold 4500 units. hrm
07:25 < foucist> kanzure: what units
07:25 < kanzure> foucist: makerbot industries. check the logs.. i was just saying they had 32 employees. last i checked they had 5
07:26 < foucist> just joined chan
07:29 < kanzure> foucist: http://gnusha.org/logs/ welcome to the future
07:30 < foucist> :P
07:34 < kanzure> what's really weird is that it was my grandmother who informed me of that
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08:34 < foucist> kanzure: i checked but still not clear, i see two links in the logs.. wondering what the units are
08:37 < kanzure> makerbot industries sells makerbot kits
08:37 < kanzure> units of makerbot kits
08:42 < kanzure> ok, so i'm trying to figure out what to tell reason@fightaging.org about his the-vegas-group
08:43 < kanzure> his idea is to just hire other people to write documentation that might be useful for diybio/longevity projects
08:43 < kanzure> in my opinion he should just use his money to actually work on the projects and document his project as he goes along
08:43 < kanzure> so does this mean i should just dump him an email with my opinion and my two cents, or should i make some sort of more elaborate argument?
08:51 < kanzure> ZeroDivisionError: integer division or modulo by zero bleh
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09:38 < foucist> oh that's an impressive quantity of kits to sell.. for the 3d printer eh?
09:38 < foucist> i wonder what people are doing with the kit, if any of them are using them to non-toy reasons
09:38 < foucist> like using it in their business or for manufacturing tools they need etc
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09:53 < kanzure> foucist: uh have you looked on thingiverse?
09:56 < foucist> no, i haven't actually looked in depth into all this stuff, even tho i've known about repraps and saul griffith etc for awhile now
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09:59 < foucist> kanzure: have you done much with evolutionary computation, evolvable hardware etc?
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09:59 < foucist> or heard much about it?
10:00 < foucist> seems like this reprap stuff + evo would be cool combo
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10:07 < kanzure> foucist: sure.. i've dabbled with GAs and other algorithms
10:07 < kanzure> foucist: like dis? http://www.demo.cs.brandeis.edu/golem/
10:07 < kanzure> see: http://www.demo.cs.brandeis.edu/golem/download/golem160x90.avi
10:08 < kanzure> for a while i was working in this guy's lab: http://graphsynth.com/
10:08 < kanzure> (it's a mechanical engineering lab in case that's not obvious)
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11:19 < kanzure> haha baseball fans are getting all furious about one of their players using stem cells
11:19 < kanzure> er, using stem cells therapeutically
11:19 < kanzure> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/12/sports/baseball/disputed-treatment-was-used-in-bartolo-colons-comeback.html?_r=4&pagewanted=1&hp
11:20 < kanzure> (i know it's a nytimes link and thus sucks, but the search term is "bartolo colons stem cells")
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12:29 < kanzure> welp, there goes kanzure@bioinformatics.org
12:29 < kanzure> :/
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14:14 < ybit> what happen to kanzure@bioinformatics.org?
14:14 < kanzure> ping timeout
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16:19 < kanzure> gah 181wpm
16:19 < kanzure> how am i supposed to beat that
16:49 < jrayhawk> dvorak?
16:51 < jrayhawk> there are also a few steno input systems that can probably push you north of 250
16:58 < jrayhawk> http://plover.stenoknight.com/
17:03 < jrayhawk> alternative: rig emokit or something similar up to dasher
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17:04 < jrayhawk> which probably won't be all that fast, but would be amusing anyway
17:04 < jrayhawk> "EAT BRAINWAVES, SMALLHEADS"
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17:18 < kanzure> yeah with dasher i can get maybe 30wpm at most
17:18 < kanzure> the other guy is named 'kakarotto' so i changed my nickname to 'vegeta'
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17:35 < kanzure> jrayhawk: i still don't get stenography-for-computers,
17:35 < kanzure> "-PBLG -- "-dge", as in edge, badge, or Raj."
17:35 < kanzure> so.. Raj isn't anything like 'dge'
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19:26 < kanzure> god damn it why are people so against standards for packaging
19:26 < kanzure> http://www.openspacemovement.org/project/%5Bcatpath-raw%5D/203
19:26 < kanzure> (not that there's anything there....)
19:28 < QuantumG> well, according to some there hasn't even been amateur rockets flown over 100,000 ft
19:29 < QuantumG> one group of amateurs has claimed a 100 km shot but most people don't believe them because they failed to do any tracking.
19:29 < QuantumG> a NZ guy has claimed a 100 km shot but no-one believes him because he didn't even recover the GPS unit.
19:30 < QuantumG> and now we have this nanosat challenge... if someone wins that it'll be a massive leap forward in amateur rocketry.
19:50 < jrayhawk> uh, there are people who get 100k pretty much every year at blackrock
19:51 < kanzure> what?
19:51 < kanzure> oh, i thought you meant blackrock mutual
19:53 < jrayhawk> 100km is a bit harder, but one group managed it
19:55 < QuantumG> I think you might be talking about the airforce cadets?
19:57 < jrayhawk> The CSXT GoFast hit 115.8 according to rough instrumentation and verified by descent timing
19:57 < jrayhawk> http://www.ddeville.com/GoFast%20Maximum%20Altitude%20Press%20Release1.pdf
19:57 < jrayhawk> http://www.ddeville.com/GoFast%20Maximum%20Altitude%20Press%20Release1.pdf
19:57 < jrayhawk> whoops
19:58 < QuantumG> yes, those are the guys who claimed the 100km record and won't release their data.
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19:59 < QuantumG> they took an FAA statement that they hadn't endangered the involved public and used it as "confirmation" of their claim.  The FAA people who issued the statement got very pissed off at that.
19:59 < QuantumG> uninvolved*
20:03 < jrayhawk> Where's the FAA dispute published?
20:05 < QuantumG> the FAA had no official response.. as far as they're concerned they never said the rocket went over 100km so they don't care what the CSXT team want to claim.
20:05 < QuantumG> anyway, got any others?
20:05 < jrayhawk> Don't know of any other 100km claims.
20:05 < QuantumG> "pretty much every year" you said for the 100 kft.. shouldn't be hard to come up with something else.
20:09 < jrayhawk> Steve Jurvetson mentions one in his TED speech, but I don't know anything about it.
20:10 < jrayhawk> I can ask people who actually care about rocketry about it; I only get tidbits from the PSAS folks
20:13 < QuantumG> the airforce cadets launch something regularly... they buy it though.
20:13 < jrayhawk> uh... okay...?
20:13 < QuantumG> well, we're talking about amateurs *making* rockets.
20:14 < QuantumG> any idiot can buy a rocket and press the go button.
20:15 < jrayhawk> That's been my opinion of big rockets in general; all the interesting developments are in guidance, which winds up in ITAR territory
20:16 < jrayhawk> isn't copenhagen suborbitals launching soon
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20:18 < QuantumG> yeah.. I hope they succeed
20:19 < jrayhawk> "An oxygen main valve froze when a hair dryer failed to keep up the temperature and consequently the valve froze and stuck."
20:20 < jrayhawk> spending many many thousands of dollars on bespoke airframes and engines and submarines only to be let down by a hair dryer
20:21 < jrayhawk> i guess i respect their cowboy approach
20:22 < QuantumG> I just had someone say to me "what?  Did SpaceX already launch their Dragon and do a reentry?"
20:23 < jrayhawk> fun fact: psas is hosted on the same server as bryan
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20:45 < ybit> friend of mine is suing the u.s. government
20:46 < ybit> http://aclum.org/house
21:00 < jrayhawk> Good.
21:02 < jrabbit> ybit: a friend of a friend mannings might be enoguh for the TSA to hasstle you :P
21:08 < ybit> fbi's already been going after friends :\
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21:19 < JayDugger> Good evening, everyone.
21:31 < ybit> hi JayDugger
21:41 < ybit> kanzure: what files are the AP?
21:41 < ybit> AP214E3_2010.exp doesn't look like much of one
21:45 < ybit> and one pdf is describing express while the other is describing..
21:47 < ybit> another describes ISO_10303-22
21:47 < ybit> ah, an api for express
21:48 < ybit> I already had fundimpl
21:49 < ybit> Recommended\ practices\ for\ AP203.pdf is not bad
22:06 < kanzure> there's a few software tools out there that may or may not work
22:07 < kanzure> like the express parser-generator-thing
22:07 < kanzure> and the AIM module stuff... er. i don't know if there's code out there that does that.
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22:33 < ybit> so.. no AP?
22:37 < kanzure> it's the .expr file
22:37 < kanzure> er, exp
22:42 < ybit> the ap is an express file, huh.. okay
22:56 < kanzure> basically.. the ap pdf is just lots of text around it, but the express file is more informative imho
22:56 < kanzure> 10303 is just a big bunch of standards stacked on top of each other
22:56 < kanzure> first there's the EXPRESS standard
22:56 < kanzure> then there's the express syntax for generating the code for AP203..
22:56 < kanzure> then there's even more standards for generating the unit tests for that generated code..
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23:05 < kanzure> ah i forgot about the google scholar bot user-agent trick :)
23:05 < kanzure> http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/07/11394/
23:05 < kanzure> do any of you losers use it regularly?
23:06 < QuantumG> I do the "google the headline" trick for newspapers with paywalls
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23:16 < ybit> I do now
23:16  * ybit sleeps
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