--- Log opened Tue May 31 00:00:07 2011 01:05 < kanzure> jrayhawk: i'd give them to you but it would take me forever to upload 01:05 < kanzure> 'cause texas is.. something something backwards 01:06 < foucist> saxet 01:06 < jrayhawk> In Texas, connections are either steered or queered 01:07 < foucist> kanzure: executor of what? someone die? 01:17 -!- makers [~makers@c-71-207-221-57.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:51 < kanzure> foucist: my dad passed away two years ago 01:58 < foucist> ah :( 03:04 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-92-113.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:05 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-92-113.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:06 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-92-113.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:08 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-92-113.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:08 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-86-227.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:50 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:53 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:01 -!- el_kevino [~el_kevino@tor.office.avidlifemedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:08 -!- PixelScum [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:12 -!- BaldimerBrandybo [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:13 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:14 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:26 -!- BaldimerBrandybo [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:29 -!- PixelScum [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:26 < strages> aww I was needed and now it's too late 07:44 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:46 -!- panax [panax@131.247.13.196] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:47 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:02 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:28 < fenn> "I was not wildly amused late last year to be contacted by Israeli drug giant Teva's lawyers threatening the usual fire-and-brimstone over rasagiline.com if the domain isn't surrendered to their client for a token sum. It is hinted darkly that one might be a domain name speculator rather than a corporate branding strategist. Heaven forbid. On re-reading, my slightly frosty reply might be misinterpreted to imply that accepting sizeable amounts of cash fro 09:28 < fenn> It would be nice to have our own private research lab, for a start. But the way the industry aspires to monopolise the pharmaceutical namespace to control information is bad news for consumers ["patients"]. Big Pharma will probably succeed in capturing the namespace in the long run, whether by fair means or foul." 09:28 < kanzure> "640 friends otu to be enough for everyone." heh! 09:29 < kanzure> fenn: is that from david pearce? 09:29 < kanzure> *ought 09:35 < fenn> yeah, reading his diary 09:40 -!- augur is now known as not_not_mike_mac 09:40 -!- not_not_mike_mac is now known as augur 09:49 -!- augur is now known as CauseItsTheBest 09:50 -!- CauseItsTheBest is now known as augur 10:31 -!- alystair [Alystair@24-246-14-18.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:35 -!- mayko [~mayko@69-36-214-157.dynamic.dsl.skybest.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:38 -!- mayko [~mayko@69-36-214-157.dynamic.dsl.skybest.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:39 -!- jmil [~jmil@SEASNet-148-05.seas.upenn.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:09 -!- jmil [~jmil@SEASNet-148-05.seas.upenn.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:30 -!- mayko [~mayko@69-36-214-157.dynamic.dsl.skybest.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:32 -!- mayko [~mayko@69-36-214-157.dynamic.dsl.skybest.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:46 -!- mayko [~mayko@69-36-214-157.dynamic.dsl.skybest.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:01 -!- strages [c6740838@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.116.8.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:23 < kanzure> http://www.rdmag.com/News/2011/05/Life-Sciences-Genomics-New-Chip-Produces-DNA-Faster/ 12:23 < kanzure> "Using current technology, it takes between about fifty cents to a dollar to create each base pair—using the new chip reduces costs to less than half of one cent per base pair," said Jingdong Tian 12:23 < kanzure> er, better link: http://www.pratt.duke.edu/duke_jingdong_dna 12:25 < kanzure> i guess it's this? 12:25 < kanzure> http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v29/n5/abs/nbt.1847.html 12:25 < kanzure> Parallel on-chip gene synthesis and application to optimization of protein expression 12:25 < kanzure> "Received 12 November 2011" nice.. 12:25 < panax> maybe it also works as a time machine 12:28 < kanzure> paper: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/DNA/Parallel%20on-chip%20gene%20synthesis%20and%20application%20to%20optimization%20of%20protein%20expression.pdf 12:28 < kanzure> er, or not 12:32 < kanzure> ok now it's there. 12:38 < kanzure> here is where they explain their inkjet: http://www.duke.edu/~ies2/Publications/In%20situ%20synthesis%20of%20DNA_Saaem_AMI_2010.pdf 12:38 < kanzure> it's not a very interesting method, but their cost analysis seems a little fishy 12:39 < kanzure> i suppose phosphoramidite chemistry cost is always cited w.r.t bead-based DNA synthesis, which is hardly anything like microarray DNA synthesis 12:41 < kanzure> http://reprap.org/wiki/RepRap_Family_Tree 12:55 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:55 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:35 -!- el_kevino [~el_kevino@tor.office.avidlifemedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:59 -!- panax [panax@131.247.13.196] has quit [] 14:11 -!- mayko [~mayko@69-36-214-157.dynamic.dsl.skybest.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:19 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-86-227.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Quit: uniqanomaly] 14:19 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-86-227.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:19 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-86-227.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Client Quit] 14:21 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-86-227.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:22 -!- mjr [mjr@nblzone-241-33.nblnetworks.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:33 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-86-227.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Quit: uniqanomaly] 14:39 -!- mayko [~mayko@69-36-214-157.dynamic.dsl.skybest.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:41 -!- mayko [~mayko@69-36-214-157.dynamic.dsl.skybest.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:55 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-106-173.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:57 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-106-173.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Client Quit] 14:58 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37 -!- mayko [~mayko@69-36-214-157.dynamic.dsl.skybest.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:05 < kanzure> hah! http://www.justanotherhacker.com/2011/05/htaccess-based-attacks.html 16:10 -!- mayko [~mayko@69-36-214-157.dynamic.dsl.skybest.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:08 -!- ENKI-][ [~john@c-24-63-206-22.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:11 -!- ENKI-][ [~john@c-24-63-206-22.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:32 < kanzure> ughh http://hplusmagazine.com/2011/05/31/open-cures-an-initiative-to-speed-clinical-development-of-longevity-science/ 17:32 < JayDugger> Cheer up, everyone. 17:33 < JayDugger> The alternatives that are worse remain an exercise for your imagination. 17:33 < kanzure> well, i've tried "reasoning" with "Reason" but he's really just a waste of time 17:33 < kanzure> and the reality is that he's not even really interested in doing this work himself 17:33 < kanzure> so i say, fuck him 17:43 < JayDugger> I'll ask here, pre-search, and with 2¢ for the off-topic jar: any advice on evaluating pre-IPO stock options offered in salary negotiations? 17:44 < QuantumG> never accept stock in lieu of salary. 17:44 < QuantumG> they're a bonus at best. 17:45 < JayDugger> Thanks. That makes the first piece of sound advice on this point I've yet heard. 17:46 < QuantumG> almost always they're just worthless bait.. rarely do they actually pay off.. so it's the worst kind of gambling if you actually pay for them.. but if someone is offering them for free, sure, take 'em. 17:47 < QuantumG> when VMware sold to EMC I got about $3k.. I was totally surprised to hear it. 18:17 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:21 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:30 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:37 < ybit> http://www.ulacit.ac.cr/carreras/seccion/descripcion.php?career=7&grade_id=1&id=100 18:37 < ybit> one of the schools i'm looking at 18:37 < ybit> a major specializing in open source technologies 18:38 < ybit> i need to find a better exchange program quickly 18:40 < ybit> no time, oh well, guess i'll be speaking spanish with a lisp 18:41 < ybit> "grathiath" 18:41 < ybit> *shudder* 18:41 * ybit gets back to real work 18:47 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:48 < kanzure> real work? 19:12 < JayDugger> Heh. 21:51 < kanzure> http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2011-06-01-science-biopunk-hacker_n.htm 21:51 < kanzure> it'll be in print tomorrow 21:54 < ybit> request: http://pra.aps.org/abstract/PRA/v82/i2/e022515 22:04 < ybit> fetched 23:03 -!- makers [~makers@c-71-207-221-57.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:06 < kanzure> hi makers 23:08 -!- makers [~makers@c-71-207-221-57.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] --- Log closed Wed Jun 01 00:00:07 2011