--- Log opened Wed Jun 15 00:00:07 2011 00:00 < nsh_> book cypher 00:02 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-71-67-103-109.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:04 < kanzure> foucist: ##hplusroadmap interorbital sattelite network needs some upgrades so i guess ybit wants to do the job 00:20 -!- He||eshin [~talinck@cpe-71-67-103-109.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:23 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-71-67-103-109.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:38 -!- jennicide [~jen@173-19-238-210.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:39 -!- jennicide [~jen@173-19-238-210.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:43 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-95-38.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:30 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:41 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:44 -!- lumos [~lumos@2.97.166.221] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:49 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-95-38.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Quit: uniqanomaly] 03:04 -!- lumos [~lumos@2.97.166.221] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:34 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:34 -!- lumos [~lumos@2.97.166.221] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:55 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe13dd00-52.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:56 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe13dd00-52.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:10 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe13dd00-52.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:14 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe13dd00-52.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:30 -!- lumos [~lumos@2.97.166.221] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:08 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-95-38.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:21 -!- jennicide [~jen@173-19-238-210.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:22 -!- lumos [~lumos@2.97.166.221] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:58 -!- el_kevino [~el_kevino@tor.office.avidlifemedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:30 -!- BaldimerBrandybo [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:31 -!- QuantumG [~qg@rtfm.insomnia.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:33 -!- PixelScum [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:41 -!- PixelScum [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:44 -!- BaldimerBrandybo [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:51 < dbolser> any one read thsi: http://anoptimiststourofthefuture.com/ 06:51 < dbolser> written by a foaf 07:10 -!- BaldimerBrandybo [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:12 -!- Drakkar [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:13 -!- PixelScum [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:14 -!- BaldimerBrandybo [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:26 -!- PixelScum [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:30 -!- Drakkar [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:33 -!- klord [~klord@99-67-239-104.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 07:41 -!- PixelScum [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:51 -!- Drakkar [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:16 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:20 -!- Fiohnel [~r3idslash@111.94.244.221] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:21 -!- CIA-17 [cia@cia.atheme.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:21 -!- CIA-55 [~CIA@cia.atheme.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:23 -!- dbolser [~dmb@bioinformatics.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:23 < Fiohnel> found this channel from http://pleasegodno.wordpress.com/2011/05/18/transhumanist-forums-or-lack-thereof/ 08:24 < Fiohnel> quite a mini adventure 08:24 -!- dbolser [~dmb@75.126.74.92] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:33 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:34 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:54 < kanzure> Fiohnel: did you write that? 08:54 < Fiohnel> nope 08:54 < Fiohnel> found that on google 08:55 < kanzure> eudoxia: is it you? 09:14 < kanzure> backyard brains is hiring http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/browse_thread/thread/c8aeec68199a29d7 09:14 < kanzure> https://github.com/delinquentme/LH001 'liquid handler' 09:17 < kanzure> video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY5IY5CZ1es 09:26 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-133-25-182.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:40 < kanzure> eudoxia: is this you http://pleasegodno.wordpress.com/2011/05/18/transhumanist-forums-or-lack-thereof/ 10:22 < kanzure> sb5 livestream http://sb5.biobricks.org/ 10:23 < kanzure> george church "conflict of interest" slide http://twitpic.com/5byuqw 10:34 -!- lumos [~lumos@2.97.166.221] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:34 < uniqanomaly> http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-06/14/c_13929184.htm nice 11:40 < kanzure> javascript pdf reader https://github.com/andreasgal/pdf.js 11:40 < kanzure> demo: http://pumpkin.micheljansen.org/~dawuss/pdf.js/test.html 12:09 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-133-25-182.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:13 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:15 < kanzure> man why do brain visualization tools still suck so much 13:15 -!- alystair [alystair@24-246-14-18.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:15 < kanzure> http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2008/08/medium_monkeyscan_01.jpg 13:16 < kanzure> http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/152871/2/istockphoto_152871-skull-brain-visualization.jpg 13:16 < kanzure> that coloring scheme hardly captures the detailed information that you would need for anything productive 13:17 < kanzure> sorta better? http://www.voxel-man.de/3d-navigator/brain_and_skull/images/bs_ventrikel-englisch.jpg 13:22 -!- el_kevino [~el_kevino@tor.office.avidlifemedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:34 -!- CIA-55 [~CIA@cia.atheme.org] has quit [] 13:37 -!- CIA-18 [~CIA@cia.atheme.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:51 < ybit> foucist: i haven't read it and i want to read it 13:58 < kanzure> boop 14:08 < kanzure> i said BOOP 14:08 < kanzure> i demand that someone replies with a beep 14:39 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-133-25-182.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:48 < QuantumG> beep 14:50 < ybit> http://blog.opensourceecology.org/2011/06/irc/ 14:50 < ybit> #opensourceecology 14:51 -!- nsh_ [~nsh@cpc1-cowc1-0-0-cust844.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:52 -!- nsh [~nsh@cpc1-cowc1-0-0-cust844.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:54 < ybit> some at&t guy just came by my door to let me know some fiber optics is near my house 14:54 < ybit> he sounded just like marcin 14:55 < ybit> turns out he's polish as well 14:55 < ybit> he had the same mannerisms and everything 14:55 < ybit> just thought i would share that 14:56 < ybit> oh and i gave him the website, maybe he'll get interested or something 15:16 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-133-25-182.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: quit] 16:22 < kanzure> LH001 again http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2657092 16:36 -!- nsh_ [~nsh@cpc1-cowc1-0-0-cust844.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:36 < kanzure> hi nsh_ 16:49 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-95-38.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Quit: uniqanomaly] 16:53 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: QuantumG, nsh, nsh- 17:00 -!- Netsplit over, joins: QuantumG, nsh- 17:04 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:15 < fenn> " I had found the motherlode, the core, the place where real cool cats of transhumanism gathered." wooo yeah i'm a cool cat 17:17 * kanzure takes away fenn's cool cat card 17:17 < fenn> it's okay i have 9 of them 17:19 < fenn> so much hype about space elevators, and yet nobody even knows what a rotovator is 17:19 < kanzure> :( ybit is getting a bs 17:20 < ybit> all the cool places require bs 17:20 < kanzure> not true at all 17:22 < fenn> a strong portfolio will get you further than a college degree; the trick is finding funding for your projects 17:22 < kanzure> if you have like 2 even moderately interesting projects in your portfolio that's usually enough.. 17:22 < fenn> or somehow getting involved with things outside of a university 17:23 < fenn> so ExI and tt are no longer worth reading? 17:23 < ybit> noted, i'll continue to hide behind the uni walls until i have interesting completed projects 17:23 < kanzure> tt might be 17:23 < kanzure> once-in-a-blue-moon 17:24 < kanzure> i think i own openmanufacturing now 17:24 < fenn> woop 17:24 < fenn> (i havent read it in months) 17:24 < ybit> woot! 17:24 < kanzure> unfortunately paul hates me now 17:24 * ybit asks for a share of the darpa funding 17:24 < kanzure> the darpa funding just uses the same name 17:24 < ybit> yeah, so ad 17:24 < ybit> +s 17:24 < kanzure> i don't know what they are thinking.. why have they been targetting things so relevant to my interests 17:25 < fenn> maybe you can convince them you own their program 17:25 < ybit> :D 17:25 < kanzure> and then name it openmanufacturing? 17:25 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:25 < kanzure> it serves like no purpose 17:25 < kanzure> almost nobody in the consulting/contracting biz has a positive connotation associated with 'open manufacturing' 17:25 < fenn> who won the vehicleforge baa anyway? 17:25 < kanzure> they don't tell you things like that 17:26 < fenn> why not? 17:26 < kanzure> but it's probably three or four different contractors 17:26 < fenn> it's my fucking money 17:26 < kanzure> because it's darpa? 17:26 < kanzure> nooo sir 17:27 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:27 < kanzure> i don't know /why/ they do these things 17:28 < fenn> there was a darpa program manager in my house last week, but i didnt realize it 17:28 < fenn> he was very young 17:28 < kanzure> yeah they seem to be 17:28 < kanzure> also, the darpa/om BAA is a part of adaptive vehicle make (avm) but it isn't paul eremenko 17:29 < kanzure> some other guy.. luis gsomething 17:30 < fenn> i bought a bunch of vitamins and stuff yesterday.. i wonder if i'm turning into one of "those" 17:32 < ybit> yes 17:33 < ybit> if by "those" you mean cool cats 17:33 < kanzure> you should hand out the vitamins to your roommates and say "it's a science experiment" 17:34 < kanzure> :( youtube doesn't have a clip of doc brown saying "it's for a science experiment" 17:34 < ybit> fenn: #opensourceecology 17:36 < ybit> no? 17:38 * ybit gets back to work 17:41 -!- He||eshin [~talinck@cpe-71-67-103-109.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:48 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.34] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:49 < ENKI-][> kanzure: i feed my bots both curated text and uncurated text. i also occasionally feed them arrangements based on carefully precalculated novelty curves. if there is something to be done with markov chain bots, chances are if someone in here thinks of it i've done it, planned to do it, half-implemented it, written about what i think would happen were it done, or done a slightly less 17:49 < ENKI-][> computationally intensive version of it and made pretty graphs 18:01 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:29 -!- streety [streety@li139-74.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: *] 18:29 -!- streety [streety@li139-74.members.linode.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:42 < kanzure> fenn: http://forum.opensourceecology.org/discussion/208/cad-standards-group 18:42 < kanzure> i don't know how to help these guys out really 18:43 < kanzure> some of them seem to know what they are talking about 18:43 < kanzure> "will it print?" is just an excuse to use meshes 18:45 < kanzure> stalk stalk stalk http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Category:Team_Culturing 18:45 < ybit> salome is finally compiling correctly 18:45 < kanzure> why do you want to use salome 18:46 < ybit> because i haven't used it previously 18:47 < ybit> never got it to compile correctly iirc 18:47 < kanzure> have you ever used NEURON 18:47 < ybit> nope 18:47 < kanzure> i'd rank learning neuron way, way higher than salome 18:47 < kanzure> salome is just re-packaged bits of opencascade and some other crap 18:47 < ybit> it's been downloaded, but i never had anything interesting to throw at it 18:48 < ybit> i want cad plans for my workshop 18:48 < kanzure> salome won't help with taht 18:48 < ybit> that's why i'm messing with cad again 18:48 < kanzure> that 18:48 < ybit> but, but, i thought it would 18:49 < kanzure> it's pre- and post- processing for numerical simulation 18:49 * ybit double checks 18:51 < ybit> i also want to see which of my various ideas for buildings are worth building 18:51 < kanzure> based on what? 18:51 < ybit> eh? 18:52 < ybit> i'm asking questions like, is it going to fall on itself? 18:52 < kanzure> and salome will answer this how? 18:52 < ybit> what if 30-60mph winds come at it 18:52 < ybit> i dunno 18:52 < kanzure> ok just checking 18:55 < ybit> okay, so salome's geometry module supports creation of cad files, not just importing 18:55 < kanzure> like i said.. "bits of opencascade" 18:56 < kanzure> but why not just do opencascade 18:59 < ybit> no clue 19:02 -!- nchaimov [~nchaimov@c-24-20-202-138.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:02 -!- nchaimov [~nchaimov@c-24-20-202-138.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:04 -!- klord [~klord@99-67-239-104.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:06 < fenn> 'you should hand out the vitamins to your roommates and say "it's a science experiment"' - actually i had the exact same idea 19:06 < fenn> i'm too impatient to test the effects of each individually 19:08 < fenn> apparently excess acetylcholine will cause growth hormone to be released? 19:09 < fenn> and you can even buy an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor over the counter 19:09 < fenn> (huperzine A, surprisingly cheap too) 19:10 < fenn> considering other chemicals in the same class are poison venoms and nerve gas, it seems an odd thing to take for health 19:11 < fenn> freecad spits out SVG drawings? huh? 19:19 < fenn> okay it seems to export svg from its internal 2d sketch planes, not a rendering of a 3d object 19:20 < fenn> oh shit maybe not http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/free-cad/index.php?title=File:Drawing_extraction.png 19:26 < kanzure> raphaeljs is a good start to a svg cad library but would need some wrappers to a better api 19:26 < kanzure> more-cad-specificfc api 19:26 < kanzure> specific 19:29 < fenn> freecad seems to have come along quite a bit since i last looked at it 19:35 < foucist> kanzure: BEEP 19:36 < foucist> that was for your boop 19:36 < fenn> freecad demo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD3OWgSC5y0 19:38 < kanzure> foucist: beep accepted and appreciated 19:40 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-133-35-136.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:45 -!- nsh_ [~nsh@cpc1-cowc1-0-0-cust844.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 19:57 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-133-35-136.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: quit] 20:16 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:36 < kanzure> what? since when don't you have /irc/ 20:36 < kanzure> what a poopcake 20:41 < kanzure> i was trying to find the h+ proposal you drafted 20:41 < ybit> ugh, internet has been down 20:42 < ybit> salome installs occ 20:42 < ybit> and it compiled successfully as well 20:42 < ybit> i'm only running into one snag 20:43 < ybit> and it's kind of important, missing some library TK library or something 20:44 < ybit> which prevents me from drawing anything 20:44 < ybit> in the geometry workbench 20:44 < ybit> s/bench/space 20:44 < ybit> s/space/whatever_these_devs_call_it 20:44 < kanzure> humanityplus_reality_augmentation_proposal.pdf <-- where did this go 20:46 < ybit> so re: why not occ, because solome is occ but with more, so it's more than just cad, which is nice 20:48 < kanzure> oh that's right.. http://fennetic.net/irc/cyberfenn/ 20:49 < kanzure> blargh that took forever 20:51 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:51 < fenn> layout.yaml contains most of the design decisions 20:52 < fenn> should i remove index.html 20:52 < kanzure> yes you are an awful person 20:52 < kanzure> add that to README and let apache append it to the index listing 20:53 < fenn> crawl away 20:53 < kanzure> well i got what i was looking for 20:53 < kanzure> through a horribly round-about way 20:53 < fenn> apache does that? 20:53 < kanzure> it might be an option 20:54 < fenn> tomorrow is a meetup about an associative memory project 20:55 < fenn> hm i guess i do have a backup of /irc/ now 20:55 < fenn> an old backup perhaps 20:59 < fenn> bbl 21:04 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:26 < kanzure> For those with children (but not for their children), narrated by Samuel L. Jackson "Go the F**k to Sleep" free on audible.com 21:26 -!- roscoez [d03640b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.54.64.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:27 < kanzure> hi roscoez 21:27 < kanzure> i hear you want to build hardware 21:27 -!- roscoez [d03640b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.54.64.182] has quit [Client Quit] 21:28 < kanzure> blah 21:30 -!- roscoez [4b83d348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.131.211.72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:30 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:31 < roscoez> but yeah hardware... 21:32 < kanzure> do you have any particular goals 21:33 < roscoez> nope 21:39 < roscoez> so... 21:39 < QuantumG> then buy a kit and shove it together 21:39 < QuantumG> Ikea sells some easy ones 21:40 < roscoez> shove is such a brutal word 21:40 < kanzure> roscoez needs a good introduction to stuff 21:40 < kanzure> do you have money 21:40 < roscoez> nope 21:41 < QuantumG> no meatballs for you then 21:41 < roscoez> well like 300 dollars 21:41 < QuantumG> you can get a wobbly CD rack for 300 dollars 21:43 < roscoez> what else 21:43 < QuantumG> a few bookshelves (just don't put any heavy books on it) 21:44 < roscoez> any getting up to speed? 21:45 < QuantumG> can you rephrase that with grammar? 21:46 < roscoez> So I want to make hardware with no knowlege at my disposal 21:48 < QuantumG> well, it comes with knowledge.. poorly written and drawn.. and an Allen key which you'll lose and suddenly need 6 months later. 21:51 < roscoez> so should i start with wobbly chairs? 21:52 < QuantumG> start? You said your goal was to build hardware.. a chair *is* hardware (wobbly hardware) 21:56 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:00 < kanzure> roscoez: QuantumG is a troll so you should ignore him half the time 22:00 < kanzure> the other half the time he is trolling insightfully 22:00 < kanzure> i'm not particularly sure what to tell you either since you've been asking for a few months.. 22:03 < roscoez> well 22:03 < roscoez> i want to work on like aerponics n such 22:09 < QuantumG> kanzure: it's not my fault that the retard fails to understand that he has to be more specific 22:10 -!- jennicide [jen@173-19-238-210.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:12 < roscoez> im asking about projects going on in that area 22:13 < kanzure> QuantumG: he's not a retard.. i know him 22:14 < kanzure> roscoez: what about hydroponics? does that work for you? 22:14 < roscoez> works 22:22 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:31 < roscoez> so hydroponics projects 22:33 < kanzure> ybit: do you have anything for him 22:37 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-71-67-103-109.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:49 < roscoez> ? 23:01 < foucist> roscoez: aeroponics ftw.. and simple too! you just need tupper ware & a pump & those aeroblocks (get both pump and that @ any fish/pet/aquarium store) 23:01 < foucist> roscoez: keep the water levels low, right above the blocks the air pumps into (the aeroblocks w/ the thousands of little holes) 23:02 < roscoez> automation? 23:02 < foucist> and basically it'll splash lots of water into the air 23:02 < foucist> keep the plant roots right above that 23:03 < foucist> roscoez: what, which part do you want to automate? 23:03 < roscoez> fish to use 23:03 < roscoez> hmm 23:04 < roscoez> enviroment/lighting 23:04 < foucist> roscoez: google bio-bucket & google aerocloner & also learn how to use the new LED lights for hydroponics 23:06 < roscoez> scalibiity? 23:07 < foucist> ok so your goal is some sort of automated scalable plant growing machine? 23:07 < foucist> something that just grows bigger on it's own? 23:07 < foucist> like automated self-replicating farm? 23:10 < foucist> screw plants then.. algae vats -> food is where it's at 23:10 < roscoez> algae foodstuff 23:10 < roscoez> ? 23:11 < foucist> yes 23:12 < roscoez> all the nutrients and goodies needed? 23:15 < roscoez> so algae vat projects im sure there are a lot but can you list me some 23:19 < kanzure> tons.. lookup photobioreactors 23:24 < roscoez> cure for future hunger eh 23:28 < kanzure> paypal exploit http://thenextweb.com/industry/2011/06/16/paypal-vulnerability-allows-access-to-any-account-within-30-seconds/ 23:28 < kanzure> comments: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2660100 23:28 < bkero> kanzure: that's sort of dangerous 23:30 < kanzure> well they don't give the email corruption pattern 23:30 < kanzure> but i imagine it's something like "kanzurepaypal@yahoo.com-%20;bkero@gmail.com" or something 23:32 < QuantumG> yeah, most likely --- Log closed Thu Jun 16 00:00:07 2011