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01:50 < Utopiah> How Design Software Will Shape Manufacturing's Future http://www.technologyreview.com/business/37951/?p1=BI
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03:12 < QuantumG> Perhaps so many people are ignorant of space, and physics, because it hurts too much to read stupid comments like these http://t.co/jbPVOae
03:42 < streety> The idea of strapping a rocket to the ISS and launching it into higher orbits / lunar orbits / deep space is "interesting"
03:45 < foucist> QuantumG: i only see one comment regarding sending ISS off into space lol
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03:45 < QuantumG> there's sooo much stupidity in just about every comment
03:45 < QuantumG> I mean, even the *story* is stupid.
04:01 < foucist> QuantumG: well you're a stupid twat for reading it and getting all uppity about it :)
04:02 < QuantumG> go fuck yourself
04:07 < streety> The story seems to be entirely factual, what's stupid about it?
04:14 < QuantumG> let's put it this way.. if I asked you when the next Presidential election is and then went on to report it as news, would you think that maybe I was a little ignorant of the political process?
04:17 < streety> I'm not sure that's an entirely fair analogy.  This is more a news story about how the next presidential election is to be run . . . a roll out of electronic voting for example
04:19 < streety> We could probably assume that the ISS would be eventually de-orbited but the details are news.  This story is certainly thin on details but it does hint that the time between abandoning and de-orbiting probably isn't going to be all that long
04:19 < QuantumG> except that they're reporting details that were announced 2 years ago.. it's only news because a Russian said it in an interview and they thought he was saying something new
04:21 < streety> okay well I and likely millions of others missed the earlier announcement
04:21 < streety> or perhaps saw and later forgot about it
04:23 < QuantumG> if you were a journalist and you thought you had learned something new about the space program, would you maybe.. I don't know.. call the public affairs office of NASA and confirm it?  I just have an unrealistic expectation of journalism I know.
04:26 < QuantumG> and ya know, when a story that isn't a story and has an obvious subtext is posted on Slashdot, I once again discover that it isn't the Slashdot I once knew.. :(
04:44 < streety> sure it would be nice to see some indication that this has been discussed for a while but I still think to call it stupid is a little OTT
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06:38 < strages> so I'm embarking on an experiment.  I have a research colleague exactly 12 hours from where I am.  My plan is to do a braindump of everything I worked on for the day in an e-mail so that he gets it when he wakes up and have him do the same, so there's near constant work being done on a given topic.
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07:22 < kanzure> foucist: #calxia ?? no way
07:24 < foucist> kanzure: yeah i was there briefly, like 1 day or so
07:24 < kanzure> it was my cult about goals
07:24 < kanzure> goals about goals! GOALS ! meta-goals!
07:25 < foucist> i knew it was a cult
07:31 < kanzure> this is partly why i am immune to siai
07:31 < foucist> yeah i'm immune to siai and cults in general
07:32 < foucist> similar for EY/lesswrong
08:19 < kanzure> nice, google adsense is advertising a 64 channel microelectrode array to me
08:19 < kanzure> finally something relevant
08:20 < kanzure> oh god it's huge
08:20 < QuantumG> twss
08:20 < kanzure> there is nothing micro about this
08:25 < Lucas__> any good gene therapy articles out?
08:25 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/gene-therapy/
08:25 < kanzure> you should add stuff
08:25 < Lucas__> thank you
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09:22 < kanzure> dbolser: have you ever used http://cytoscapeweb.cytoscape.org/
09:26 < kanzure> michio kaku interviewing greg fahy and aubrey de grey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMqRzq-Gc2Y "can we live forever"
09:26 < kanzure> apparently that's new or something
09:27 < kanzure> lolz "with morgan freeman" awesome
09:30 < kanzure> i bet michio kaku is the type of person you'd want to punch in person
09:30 < Lucas__> xD
09:30 < Lucas__> why do you think that?
09:32 < kanzure> his signal per unit enthusiasm is way off
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11:01 < AlonzoTG> Yeah, SIAI == Rabbi Yudkowski's Uploading Cult. (RYUC).
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11:03 < kanzure> AlonzoTG: uh, what?
11:03 < kanzure> they aren't really that hot about uploading
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12:13 < AlonzoTG> Of course they are! They don't talk about it that much these days because it generates a backlash from people such as myself but the assumption underlying everything they do is that everyone will be uploaded very soon after the singularity.
12:14 < AlonzoTG> Try to find even one of them who will tell you that's not true!
12:30 < kanzure> no they believe everyone will be *dead* very soon after the singularity with some high probability
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13:02 < kanzure> http://andrewrschrock.wordpress.com/2011/07/27/hackers-makers-and-teachers-a-hackerspace-primer-part-1-of-2/
13:03 < AlonzoTG> I'm gonna be at my hackerspace this evening.
13:03 < AlonzoTG> I'm going to be lecturing about....
13:03 < AlonzoTG> vacuum tubes. =P
13:08 < archels> fuck yeah tubes.
13:08 < AlonzoTG> Tubedepot had a wonderful advertisement campeign "RE-VOLT AGAINST THE SOLID STATE!"
13:09 < kanzure> hahh what??
13:12 < archels> haha
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13:21 < jrayhawk> *Kurzweil* has an unfortunate habbit of talking about uploading like it's a sure thing, but the actual SIAI does no such thing.
13:53 < kanzure> hobbit?
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15:14 < kanzure> stop leaving me :(
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15:16 < kanzure> "the supreme court should invalidate software patents" (forbes) http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2818349
15:17 < kanzure> "A mechanical device is already not eligible for copyright." bleh?
15:25 < kanzure> hm what if companies couldn't own patents
15:34 < kanzure> http://ifcopenshell.org/ "IfcOpenShell is an open source (LGPL) software library that helps users and software developers to work with the IFC file format. The IFC file format can be used to describe building and construction data. The format is commonly used for Building Information Modelling."
15:34 < kanzure> http://blog.ifcopenshell.org/2011/07/static-linking-of-open-cascade.html
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21:54 < fenn> Dumbledore: "I use the Pensieve. One simply siphons the excess thoughts from one's mind, pours them into the basin, and examines them at one's leisure. It becomes easier to spot patterns and links, you understand, when they are in this form."
21:54 < fenn> wow it's so simple!
21:54 < fenn> why use brain computer interfaces when we can just open our minds so far our brains fall out
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21:56 < fenn> kanzure: are you saying you can now type at 1026 wpm?
21:59 < kanzure> no that's 1026 points
22:00 < kanzure> typespeed never gives me more than 130wpm
22:03 < kanzure> fenn: we call that a "mindfuck" by the way
22:17 < fenn> and when you pour several peoples' thoughts into the same pool it's a mind orgy?
22:20 < kanzure> no then it's just a cestpool
22:21  * kanzure sleeps
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23:15 < kanzure> what was that
23:15 < kanzure> it woke me up :(
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