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05:18 < belorno> Hey.
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05:19 < belorno> Hi there.
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07:37 < kanzure> hi belorno
07:39 < belorno> Hey, what's up?
07:40 < kanzure> it's like a never-ending fountain of crap http://developer.runkeeper.com/healthgraph/introducing-the-health-graph
07:40 < kanzure> belorno: not much.. waking up
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07:42 < belorno> Hmm, reads kind of like an MLM scheme.
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07:48 < kanzure> waking up? yeah it's sorta multilevel-like i guess
07:56 < jenzebubble> anyone here familiar with fluorinert?
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10:03 < kanzure> http://www.betterbio.org/diybio
10:03 < kanzure> oh right.. they hired tyson
10:03 < kanzure> i can't believe he decided to do writing
10:03 < kanzure> he could've done.. uh, other things
10:04 < kanzure> swedish transhumanists: http://manniskaplus.org/
10:04 < kanzure> finland: http://transhumanismi.org/
10:04 < kanzure> denmark: http://hplusdenmark.wordpress.com/
10:15 < kanzure> chrome is telling me that "incentivize" is not a word
10:18 < fenn> evolution is just a theory, of course http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WpBjNLv4ao
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10:22 < kanzure> what am i watching
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10:36 < kanzure> hey is there any way i could enlist one of you guys to help me write a design doc for gitduino
10:36 < kanzure> sebastien would like something posted to the reprap.org blog
10:36 < kanzure> i'd like to explain what my git post-receive hook does
10:37 < kanzure> and also explain the value of that sorta system over a wiki for organizing cad files
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11:06 < kanzure> hi ybit
11:07 < ybit> hi there
11:08 < ybit> power outage, love'em
11:08 < kanzure> i'm writing up an email to you/thesnark/foucist
11:08 < kanzure> wasn't there someone else
11:08 < ybit> i have a friend here
11:08 < kanzure> no i mean.. someone in here
11:08 < ybit> i met him in #espanol
11:08 < ybit> oh
11:08 < ybit> i think that's all
11:10 < kanzure> http://dev.mendeley.com/api-binary-battle
11:10 < kanzure> is probably an option
11:16 < kanzure> if nobody cared about a quick payout.. i'd try to convince you guys to work on gitduino
11:17 < kanzure> or street view fighter, or that name-pronunciation site, or that amazon/gifting thing, or hplusvideo
11:18 < kanzure> also i can't seem to find foucist's email address
11:18  * fenn mumbles something about hordes of vietnamese programmers
11:18 < jrayhawk> What work needs to be done on hplusvideo?
11:19 < kanzure> fenn: ybit/thesnark/foucist were thinking of teaming up to do a project
11:19 < kanzure> jrayhawk: mobile html5 optimization, better design, better comment system, testing
11:19 < kanzure> jrayhawk: also hplusvideo doesn't really have a "purpose" or a goal really
11:19 < kanzure> i mean.. there's no reason for anyone to use it or submit entries
11:20 < kanzure> and i never got around to doing the mst3k-style commentary features
11:20 < jrayhawk> Have you played with nicovideo before?
11:20 < kanzure> no
11:20 < kanzure> http://nicovideo.jp/ ?
11:21 < jrayhawk> they have an innovative commenting system
11:22 < kanzure> fenn: i think it makes sense for people in here to team up on projects.. besides you/me on skdb-related-stuff
11:22 < kanzure> unfortunately they require money from their projects, so that changes the dynamics a little
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11:26 < kanzure> so one idea is to just do a small project
11:27 < kanzure> specifically for "resume building", i.e. something that isn't expected to make any money
11:27 < kanzure> the idea being that a project of four can end up looking better than a project of one..
11:29 < kanzure> the social value is in the team building and getting something done, not necessarily in what the site/app actually does
11:31 < kanzure> reprap.org is really bleeding for something though.. a month to get everything finalized seems doable to me
11:39 < fenn> there was something odd about nicovideo, like you have to have a .jp email address to register?
11:39 < fenn> i figured it out eventually though
11:39 < fenn> also the comments are really annoying
11:40 < fenn> like "wooooooah!!!! yeah!!!!! omg!!!!!!!!" scrolling across your video constantly
11:40 < fenn> except they're in japanese
11:41 < fenn> gitduino is just git project hosting for hardware projects, no?
11:41 < kanzure> yeah
11:41 < fenn> and presumably something like a markdown wiki that saves to the repo
11:41 < kanzure> more specifically right now it's my post-receive hook for rendering hardware from a git repository
11:41 < kanzure> .. more specifically, .scad
11:41 < fenn> does it show solidworks previews?
11:41 < fenn> i've been learning solidworks the last week
11:42 < fenn> just doing tutorials
11:42 < kanzure> no but i have code to extract .png's from solidworks files (for the thumbnails)
11:42 < fenn> ok well put that code in the gitduino repo at least
11:42 < kanzure> you could hypothetically install solidworks on a windows server "IN THE CLOUD" and have it do screenshots or something
11:42 < fenn> if not already there
11:42 < fenn> no i don't care that much
11:43 < fenn> people can always submit renderings too
11:43 < fenn> or photographs
11:43 < kanzure> there's lots of ways to do the gitduino thing.. originally i was thinking piny/ikiwiki
11:43 < fenn> "look, a thing! in physical reality!"
11:43 < kanzure> but the quickest way is writing a gem for gitorious
11:43 < fenn> i'm not terribly impressed with ikiwiki, based on years old data. has it gotten any better?
11:43 < kanzure> no
11:44 < fenn> shirley there's a ruby git wiki plugin already
11:44 < kanzure> well there's rails+git, and rails+wiki gems
11:44 < kanzure> brb dave call..
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11:48 < kanzure> yeah the amount of work that needs to be done.. isn't much
12:07 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/open-hardware-summit-donors.txt
12:08 < kanzure> hrm bruce@perens.org
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12:28 < kanzure> fenn: how do you like solidworks so far?
13:48 < fenn> meh
13:49 < fenn> the tutorials are annoying. they should have some kind of on-screen overlay instead of "now go to the properties manager and enter 10.0 millimeters in the modifier box"
13:49 < fenn> it seems to do everything i want though, genetic algorithm stuff aside
13:50 < fenn> and the zoom out zooms from the center of the window instead of the mouse is annoying
13:50 < fenn> i wish more stuff was like this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Canon_s90_size.JPG
13:51 < fenn> i never realized my camera was cigarette case form factor
13:51 < fenn> sorta like "pizza box form factor" i guess
13:55 < kanzure> you should also try alibre
14:05 < jrayhawk> with nicovideo you can get pretty funny MST3k-type commentary going on.
14:06 < kanzure> flashing words/messages over a screen?
14:06 < jrayhawk> (Or so I'm told; I don't speak Japanese, don't use flash, don't use most nonfederated authentication systems, and don't use most Javascript sites)
14:07 < kanzure> i see what you mean about the others,
14:07 < kanzure> but what do you have against japanese?
14:08 < jrayhawk> Japenese the spoken language is merely painfully different. Kanji is a horrifying atrocity.
14:15 < kanzure> hey this wasn't as painful as i thought it would be
14:15 < kanzure> http://www.saltycrane.com/blog/2009/05/notes-using-pip-and-virtualenv-django/
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14:41 < jrayhawk> I appreciate the strictly defined phonemes Japenese has, though.
14:42 < jrayhawk> not a lot of room for regional interpretation.
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14:48 < belorno> kanzure: I've been looking around the web for possible mirrors of your ebook library. I found that you posted a list of ebook sites. That's a coincidence, because I did the same thing in a personal text file a couple of years ago.
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15:08 < kanzure> you only like me for my bits :(
15:12 < belorno> kanzure: Nope, I also watched your videos.
15:13 < belorno> I think that for someone of your brightness to have a crap network connection is a travesty. What's America coming to?
15:14 < belorno> It looks like our interest greatly overlap.
15:14 < belorno> *interests
15:14 < kanzure> what's up?
15:15 < belorno> Just trying to get things together these days.
15:16 < belorno> The link I found to your website was posted on a Tor hidden service, by the way.
15:17 < jrayhawk> It's important that Bryan's website not be discovered by The Man.
15:18 < jrayhawk> They might send FBI agents after him to invite him to regional meetings.
15:18 < belorno> I'll keep it confidential. :) I didn't post it, I just found it. That hidden service is down now, last time I checked.
15:19 < belorno> I was part of an ebook torrent site that got busted down. They went underground, but I lost touch before I found out if someone else carried the torch.
15:20 < kanzure> jrayhawk is joking.. the fbi is already in contact with me
15:20 < belorno> Funny.
15:20 < belorno> They never contacted me, they just hire old people to follow me around.
15:27 < kanzure> (i am not joking)
15:27 < belorno> Sorry to hear that. I won't pry into your business.
15:27 < kanzure> huh?
15:27 < kanzure> jrayhawk: what am i doing wrong
15:28 < belorno> I mean, I'm not going to ask about the nature of your interest to the FBI.
15:29 < jrayhawk> They were interested in inviting him to present at a regional meeting.
15:29 < belorno> That's positive.
15:29 < QuantumG> superheroes are often asked to talk to law enforcement.
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15:38 < kanzure> belorno: it was a diybio/fbi outreach thing (most recentl)
15:38 < kanzure> *recently
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15:43 < belorno> That sounds great. Now I am curious about why the FBI wants to hear about it.
15:46 < QuantumG> helps prevent extremism.. like assuming that everyone getting glassware delivered to a residence is setting up a meth lab.
15:48 < belorno> Yeah... I guess citizen scientists being interested in organic chemistry might make them nervous.
15:48 < QuantumG> they exist to investigate crime.. it colors the way you see the world.
15:50 < belorno> I can imagine.
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16:45 < kanzure> 16:26 < Jon_D> hi
16:45 < kanzure> 16:26 < Jon_D> I invite you to inform yourself about my new project: www.technoloans.org
16:45 < kanzure> guess who's back hahah
16:46 < kanzure> "ebola virus of cryonics" :(
16:46 < kanzure> "Explain your life:"
17:00 < belorno> Hmm, sounds shady.
17:03 < kanzure> belorno: http://www.cryonics.org/immortalist/november05/ebola.htm
17:08 < belorno> You know Eugen Leitl?
17:09 < belorno> I feel sorry for Mr. Despres.
17:11 < kanzure> i'm good friends with eugen
17:14 < belorno> I've seen his name around some mailing lists. He gets around...
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17:15 < kanzure> belorno: you might be interested in this,
17:15 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/cgit/meetlog/plain/meetlog.txt
17:18 < belorno> That's kind of long... :) Are you on http://imminst.org/
17:18 < kanzure> yes
17:19 < kanzure> (it's even mentioned in there)
17:19 < belorno> I've been a member there for some time. Not very active though.
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17:23 < belorno> Oh, that reminds me... I wanted to post something there.
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19:00 < ybit> never got the email
19:03 < kanzure> yeah never sent it
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19:51 < QuantumG> http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2011/08/is-the-future-of-immersive-3d-in-atoms-euclideoncom.html
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20:05 < delinquentme> heyyy all .. anyone happen to know if there are legitimate (funded) research groups who are out there pursuing aging?
20:06 < ybit> aubrey et al
20:07 < ybit> and many more i'm sure, after all there's a lot of baby boomers who don't want to die, but i wouldn't know who
20:07 < kanzure> delinquentme: http://sens.org/
20:07 < delinquentme> arent they only somewhat funded?
20:08 < kanzure> yep
20:08 < kanzure> pretty pathetic
20:08 < kanzure> halcyon molecular claims to be pursuing longevity, but they are busy playing with electron microdicks
20:08 < kanzure> microscopes
20:09 < kanzure> http://www.thestreet.com/story/11205724/1/retirement-plans-for-1000-year-olds.html
20:13 < delinquentme> ever heard of http://www.sageweb.org/ ?
20:14 < kanzure> yes
20:14 < delinquentme> kaeberlein lab @ washington
20:14 < kanzure> i've never been able to get their data
20:14 < kanzure> oh wow it's changed
20:16 < delinquentme> they posted on imminst looking for someone to do web stuff
20:16 < delinquentme> whats up with you and school?
20:17 < kanzure> you must be thinking of someone else
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20:48 < delinquentme> kanzure oh derp
20:48 < delinquentme> ok bed time ~~ talk to you kids tomorrowwww
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21:58 < kanzure> hmm les is missing?
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22:34 < belorno> Bye folks...
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22:38 < kanzure> what's up with everyone not knowing how to keep irc on
23:02 < QuantumG> what's up with all the netsplits these days
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