--- Log opened Thu Aug 11 00:00:19 2011 01:19 -!- jenzebubble [jld@173-27-44-143.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:34 -!- Fiohnel [~r3idslash@111.94.244.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:14 -!- marainein [~marainein@124-148-142-130.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:03 -!- He||eshin [~talinck@cpe-71-67-103-109.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:06 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-71-67-103-109.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:53 < archels> http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/08/08/2350831/package-bomb-injures-2-mexico.html 04:54 < archels> oh, repost 05:23 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe2add00-191.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:29 < Utopiah> is http://www.transhumandoc.com available in streaming somewhere? 06:08 -!- Juul [~Juul@81.162.155.231] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:14 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:29 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-219-162.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:50 -!- Technicus [~nomadicus@97-91-79-214.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:52 -!- marainein [~marainein@124-148-142-130.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 07:09 -!- Juul [~Juul@81.162.155.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:19 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-83-20.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:23 -!- Juul [~Juul@81.162.145.101] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:29 < archels> oh god who came up with 'unanobomber' 07:34 < kanzure> aahhhhh so tempting 07:34 < kanzure> http://www.slapsale.com/item_desc.aspx?itemid=44534 07:34 < kanzure> Jeol JSM-T330A Scanning Electron Microscope 07:34 < kanzure> current bid: $105.00 07:34 < kanzure> time left: 2h 3min 07:39 < archels> History of 10 bids... it'll be sniped no doubt. 07:44 -!- QuantumG [~qg@rtfm.insomnia.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:46 -!- QuantumG [~qg@rtfm.insomnia.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:56 < AlonzoTG> The software on those beasties is really nasty! =( 07:56 < AlonzoTG> I've had first-hand experience with them. 08:00 -!- BaldimerBrandybo [~PixelScum@ip68-231-176-15.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:00 -!- evolv [~assparade@pcp168075pcs.unl.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:00 -!- evolv [~assparade@pcp168075pcs.unl.edu] has quit [Changing host] 08:00 -!- evolv [~assparade@unaffiliated/evolv] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:02 -!- PixelScum [~PixelScum@ip68-231-176-15.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:04 < kanzure> AlonzoTG: when did you play with these? 08:06 < archels> A pair of ions (electrically charged atoms) are trapped by electric fields and manipulated with microwaves inside a glass chamber at the center of the apparatus. The chamber is illuminated by a green light-emitting diode for visual effect. 08:06 < archels> haha what. 08:10 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-67-186-15-75.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:11 < AlonzoTG> I played with a newer JEOL microscope when I was at the Carnegie institute of washington, I was in the electronics dept, charged with maintaining the electron microprobe and microscope. 08:11 < AlonzoTG> It had a windows workstation as the front end, using rambus memory, 08:12 < AlonzoTG> It was so sensitive to its hardware configuration that it only worked with a certain braind, model, and part number of video card! 08:12 < AlonzoTG> The engineer who designed the interface board didn't bother to obey any standards or even try to interface with the system the right way. 08:13 < delinquentme> sounds awful 08:13 < archels> picture to go with my previous remark --> http://patapsco.nist.gov/imagegallery/retrieve.cfm?imageid=962&dpi=300&fileformat=jpg 08:14 < AlonzoTG> I suspect you would spend at least 7 or 8 K to get that beastie operational again. 08:14 < AlonzoTG> It uses 100VAC internally because that's the standard in Japan. 08:14 < AlonzoTG> And you need a chiller loop to cool the lenses. 08:15 -!- Juul [~Juul@81.162.145.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:15 -!- PixelScum [~PixelScum@ip68-231-176-15.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:16 < delinquentme> thats beautiful 08:16 < delinquentme> <3 those copper coils 08:16 < delinquentme> and thats a legit laser were looking at across the screen 08:17 < kanzure> extreme javascript obfuscation http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2129745 08:17 < archels> yeh, the caption sounds rather silly. 08:17 -!- Fiohnel [~r3idslash@111.94.244.42] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:18 -!- BaldimerBrandybo [~PixelScum@ip68-231-176-15.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:18 < kanzure> this is also extreme for javascript.. http://proxino.com/ seems to wrap all of your statmenets in try/catch blocks 08:18 < kanzure> but i'm not sure why it has to be a proxy service 08:20 < AlonzoTG> Also, you need a lab to prepare the samples, 08:21 < AlonzoTG> the samples need to be mounted, fixed, polished, and finally coated with carbon. 08:25 < Technicus> Has anyone suggestions for open source inventory management software? 08:26 < JayDugger> I don't, Technicus. 08:29 -!- Juul [~Juul@slim.visitor.camp.ccc.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:31 < kanzure> Technicus: openerp might help 08:33 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe2add00-191.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:33 < Technicus> kanzure: What is openerp? 08:34 < delinquentme> AlonzoTG, i keep looking at that ... how long does it take to build a rig like that 08:34 < delinquentme> and costs? 08:36 < kanzure> Technicus: some erp software.. it's just a lame php-based mysql system thingy 08:36 < kanzure> it's not a big deal but you can install it and twiddle around with it 08:41 < Technicus> kanzure: What is erp? 08:41 < Technicus> Perhaps I shall ask the mighty Google . . . 08:43 < JayDugger> Enterprise Resource Planning 08:46 < Technicus> Maybe that is not what I am looking for . . . subscriptions to business services are not in my available budget. I am just looking for something that I can maintain on my own and keep local, without need of an internet connection. 08:54 < kanzure> i did not say subscription anything 08:54 < kanzure> i said openerp.. go download it 08:55 < Technicus> Ok. 08:57 < Technicus> kanzure: Is this related to the the openerp your are suggesting: [ http://www.openerp.com/online?gclid=CKmknq_Kx6oCFUi8KgodkFdazg ]? 08:57 -!- Juul [~Juul@slim.visitor.camp.ccc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:03 < kanzure> dunno why you would do a subscription 09:03 < kanzure> https://launchpad.net/openobject 09:08 < Technicus> Thanks Kanzure. 09:09 < Technicus> I shall examine this software. 09:09 -!- Juul [~Juul@slim.visitor.camp.ccc.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:09 < kanzure> to be honest there's probably better stuff out there 09:09 < kanzure> this is a pretty crummy one 09:15 < Technicus> Thanks a lot dudes . . . gotta go . . . check you later Muggs! 09:18 < JayDugger> How did you find Slap Sale and Next Lot? 09:19 < kanzure> JayDugger: austin hackerspace 09:19 -!- Technicus [~nomadicus@97-91-79-214.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:19 < JayDugger> Thank you. 09:31 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe2add00-191.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:31 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-74-167.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving."] 09:36 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe2add00-191.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:39 -!- Kait85 [~chatzilla@142.204.133.114] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:04 < kanzure> future tense: biohackers 10:04 < kanzure> http://www.abc.net.au/rn/futuretense/stories/2011/3285426.htm 10:04 < kanzure> audio: http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/2011/08/fte_20110811_0830.mp3 10:04 < kanzure> there is also a transcript now 10:04 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:08 < kanzure> ok that was boring 10:15 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:18 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-71-67-103-109.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:19 -!- Juul [~Juul@slim.visitor.camp.ccc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:21 -!- delinquentme_ [~delinquen@c-67-186-15-75.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:21 -!- augur_ [~augur@c-71-57-177-89.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:24 -!- JayDugger1 [~duggerj@pool-173-74-74-167.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:27 -!- He||eshin [~talinck@cpe-71-67-103-109.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:27 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:27 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-67-186-15-75.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:27 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-57-177-89.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:27 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@c-75-73-62-22.hsd1.wi.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:27 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@c-75-73-62-22.hsd1.wi.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:27 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:28 -!- ybit [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:35 -!- anelma [~elmom@hoasnet-fe2add00-191.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:38 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: elmom, superkuh 10:40 -!- ybit [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:41 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-59-76.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:12 -!- delinquentme_ [~delinquen@c-67-186-15-75.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:25 -!- delinquentme_ [~delinquen@c-67-186-15-75.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:03 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:05 -!- strages_ [~qwebirc@dev.throwthemind.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:05 < strages_> has there been any discussion of gelsight in here? 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18:52 -!- evolvidle is now known as evolv 19:03 < kanzure> delinquentme: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/Semantic%20Search%20Facilitator.html 19:19 < delinquentme> kanzure, ^^ broken image? 19:27 < delinquentme> ROOOAArrrrr 19:27 < delinquentme> bewz. 19:27 < delinquentme> where muh homeslices at? 19:30 < evolv> hey, delinquentme 19:30 < evolv> what is your trade? 19:30 < evolv> programming? 19:30 < evolv> software engineering? 19:31 < delinquentme> evolv, its all over the place 19:31 < delinquentme> done graphic design 19:31 < delinquentme> done UI design 19:31 < delinquentme> done programming for web apps 19:31 < delinquentme> sick w pshop 19:31 < delinquentme> built robots 19:31 < evolv> are you trying to get into biology? 19:32 < delinquentme> yeah im wanting to get deep into the separation of machine vrs human tasks within computational biology 19:32 < evolv> neat 19:32 < delinquentme> like i CAN use photoshop and do UI design but the real area will wars will be won is in the above 19:33 < delinquentme> theres so many names i talk to on here .. so apologies if ive asked but evolv what are you into? 19:34 < evolv> I'm a Master's student studying evolutionary genetics/functional evolution 19:35 < delinquentme> where? 19:38 < evolv> at Nebraska 19:51 < delinquentme> evolv, so why computational bio 19:52 < evolv> I wouldn't consider myself a computational biologist 19:52 < evolv> I mean, bioinformatics and computational biologist can be considered the same thing, but I consider computational biologists the ones who actually write the software 19:52 < evolv> I merely exploit the software 19:52 < evolv> I don't write any of my own 20:03 < delinquentme> ah 20:03 < delinquentme> hey man so you're the dude i gotta talk to when i dont get whats going on in mybody :D 20:04 < delinquentme> SO! is it out of the question to insist that a company im applying to , to call me b ack 20:04 < delinquentme> i get fucking pissy when im trying to see wtf a company is about and i got nada 20:04 < delinquentme> though perhaps if they're taking no stands they might be a bitch company 20:05 < delinquentme> double f that. 20:05 < evolv> I'm confused 20:05 < evolv> what? 20:05 < kanzure> it's ok we don't understand him either 20:07 < delinquentme> ha 20:07 < delinquentme> i get pissy when a company doesnt respond to email 20:07 < kanzure> why would you ever expect them to 20:07 < kanzure> you should just call them instead 20:07 < delinquentme> no number 20:07 < delinquentme> tried 411ing them too 20:08 < delinquentme> dont like the term but i expect a bleeding edge company to have a soul 20:08 < delinquentme> "soul" 20:08 < delinquentme> i wanna see that shit 20:08 < kanzure> "Mrs. Ali also helped found the Muhammad Ali Center in Louisville, Kentucky in 2005, where she serves on the Board of Directors. In 1992, Mrs. Ali formed the Greatest of All Time, Inc. (G.O.A.T.) to manage the licensing and business of her husband’s intellectual properties and personal appearances" 20:08 < kanzure> http://bioethics.gov/cms/lonnie-ali 20:08 < kanzure> GOAT 20:08 < kanzure> hahah 20:23 -!- Technicus [~nomadicus@24-197-228-182.static.stpt.wi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:32 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:36 -!- SDr [~SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has quit [] 20:40 -!- jennicide [jen@173-27-44-143.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:46 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-76-125-242-200.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:27 < Technicus> I am trying to use Emokit: [ https://github.com/qdot/emokit ] to collect raw sensor data from the Emotive Epoc EEG ( consumer model ). I'm not quite able to understand the implementation documentation very well. I have the source but there is no explanation about building . . . so I'm not too sure what to do. Anyone here have experience with the Emokit? 21:31 < kanzure> yeah we were the oens who wrote emokit 21:31 < kanzure> ones 21:32 < kanzure> there isn't that much to "build" it's just python 21:32 -!- Technicus [~nomadicus@24-197-228-182.static.stpt.wi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:33 < kanzure> what 21:33 < kanzure> after i went to all that trouble to type things for you 21:35 -!- nchaimov [~nchaimov@c-24-20-202-138.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 22:02 * kanzure sleeps 22:05 -!- Jaakko93 [~Jaakko@host86-131-174-223.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:11 * meefs lulz 22:13 -!- nchaimov [~nchaimov@c-24-20-202-138.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:14 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@dhcp-198-123.ece.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:25 -!- marainein [~marainein@124-148-142-130.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:38 < CryptoQuick> how do I python 23:44 -!- Juul [~Juul@81.162.156.31] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] --- Log closed Fri Aug 12 00:00:20 2011