--- Log opened Wed Sep 07 00:00:59 2011 00:25 -!- CapNemo [u1995@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vjsrxdfgxhdoduyl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:39 -!- Fiohnel [~r3idslash@111.94.244.68] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:49 -!- klafka_ [~diane@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:49 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:18 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:19 -!- klafka_ [~diane@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:31 -!- klafka_ [~diane@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:32 -!- klafka_ [~diane@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:38 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:40 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:35 -!- superkuh_ is now known as superkuh 03:27 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:37 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:26 -!- CryptoQuick [~CryptoQui@c-174-51-232-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Join New Direction in Space on Facebook! http://is.gd/ndispace] 07:02 -!- jenzebubble [jen@173-27-44-143.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:05 -!- jennicide [jld@173-27-44-143.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:07 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:46 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-73-131.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:23 -!- Lucas_ [6c1535f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.21.53.249] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:23 < Lucas_> Good morning 08:37 -!- Jaakko93 [~Jaakko@host86-152-7-109.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:05 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:12 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:24 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:46 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:50 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:58 -!- panax [panax@che-eng136-1.forest.usf.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:01 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:12 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:15 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Client Quit] 10:46 -!- Jaakko94 [~Jaakko@host86-149-59-151.range86-149.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:46 -!- Jaakko93 [~Jaakko@host86-152-7-109.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:47 < kanzure> aww crap 10:51 < dbolser> The heritability of general cognitive ability increases linearly from childhood to young adulthood. 10:51 < dbolser> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19488046 10:52 -!- Jaakko94 [~Jaakko@host86-149-59-151.range86-149.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:00 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@78.9.75.10] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:01 -!- Jaakko94 [~Jaakko@host86-131-176-188.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:03 < Lucas_> oh man I am screwed 11:12 -!- Lucas_ [6c1535f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.21.53.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:16 -!- jmil [~jmil@2001:468:1802:e148:352b:75a5:b4ae:5e2e] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:30 -!- jmil [~jmil@2001:468:1802:e148:352b:75a5:b4ae:5e2e] has quit [Quit: jmil] 11:34 -!- jmil [~jmil@2001:468:1802:e148:95bc:a04e:8421:47e9] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:34 < splicer> "as children grow up, they increasingly select, modify and even create their own experiences in part based on their genetic propensities." 11:35 < splicer> refreshing to see someone say that ones genes guide ones actions. 11:36 < splicer> I think it's taboo... the blank slate theory is more politically correct. 11:37 < kanzure> octopus diybio workshop http://octopus.eventbrite.com/ 11:38 < kanzure> *octopus dissection 11:46 -!- jmil [~jmil@2001:468:1802:e148:95bc:a04e:8421:47e9] has quit [Quit: jmil] 11:54 -!- jmil [~jmil@2001:468:1802:e148:d506:8d54:546c:f298] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:57 < kanzure> "When asked how many children are ideal, the average answer from women in Austria is 1.6. In the UK it’s 2.4. Women in Uganda answer 5.3, and the tireless women of Niger think 9.1 children are ideal – statistically speaking. That explains their world’s highest 7.1 births per woman." 11:58 < uniqanomaly> who the fuck wrote that 12:00 < kanzure> hitting a little close to home... http://media2.kxan.com//PDF/ListDestroyedStructures.pdf 12:02 < kanzure> what does 9.1 mean? that 10% answered 10? or that 5% answered 20? 12:04 -!- jmil_ [~jmil@SEASNet-148-05.seas.upenn.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:05 -!- jmil [~jmil@2001:468:1802:e148:d506:8d54:546c:f298] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:05 -!- jmil_ is now known as jmil 12:08 -!- jmil [~jmil@SEASNet-148-05.seas.upenn.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 12:20 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:33 -!- jmil [~jmil@2001:468:1802:e148:c9a6:5152:e4c:a8ca] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:04 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-74-229.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:05 < eudoxia> Huh. Nanorex updated its site 13:05 < eudoxia> I thought they'd ran out of money? 13:06 < kanzure> how is it updated? 13:06 < eudoxia> They changed the skin 13:06 < eudoxia> i guess that's something 13:06 < kanzure> you mean nanoengieer-1.com? 13:06 < eudoxia> yes 13:06 < kanzure> looks the same to me O_o 13:06 < eudoxia> wait no 13:06 < kanzure> *nanoengineer-1.com 13:06 < eudoxia> http://nanoengineer-1.com/dev1/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1 13:07 < kanzure> oh /dev1 13:07 < kanzure> actually this was an old site too 13:07 < eudoxia> oh well 13:07 < kanzure> mark sims is still alive though, yes 13:09 < eudoxia> Have they been doing anything after nanorex ran out of money? 13:09 < kanzure> nanorex was funded by mark.. mark wrote some code but there were also 6-10 others 13:09 < kanzure> they have other jobs now iirc 13:10 < kanzure> some of them are on the nanoengineer-dev mailing list though 13:10 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/nanoengineer-dev 13:11 < eudoxia> The one that "makes glaciers look like the Flash"? 13:11 * kanzure nods 13:11 < kanzure> it's partly my fault.. i should write more nanoengineer code 13:12 < dbolser> splicer: the gene-ie is out of the bottle since 2007 13:20 -!- ybit [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:20 < ybit> hacker con in hsv, need some suggestions for speakers 13:28 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:44 < splicer> dbolser: or 1859 maybe? ;)... just hasn't caught on. 13:50 < Steel_> what's drexler been doing since 07? 13:50 < Steel_> or 09 13:50 < Steel_> whatever 13:58 -!- delinquentme [~chatzilla@c-67-186-15-75.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:59 < delinquentme> seriously there is no reason i cant put pipette tips within other pipette tips... if they're all sterile there is no reason that would contaminate it 14:26 < kanzure> have you tried it? 14:26 < kanzure> Steel_: writing papers 14:35 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@78.9.75.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:37 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@78.9.75.10] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:37 < delinquentme> kanzure: nope 14:45 -!- panax [panax@che-eng136-1.forest.usf.edu] has quit [] 14:59 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:06 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:17 -!- Tyrant [~Tyrant@c-76-21-1-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:18 < Tyrant> delinquentme, the amount of force you'd use to mount the disposable tip onto the pipettor would also make the tips stick together 15:18 < Tyrant> so you'd push the top into the rest and they'd aaall stickl 15:19 < delinquentme> Tyrant: storage is different from fitting the tip 15:19 < Tyrant> the inner surface of the tips are high friction for the purpose of easily mounting them and will stick to the outside surface of other tips 15:19 < delinquentme> thats a separate mechanism 15:19 -!- jmil [~jmil@2001:468:1802:e148:c9a6:5152:e4c:a8ca] has quit [Quit: jmil] 15:19 < delinquentme> i think i can overcome that 15:20 < delinquentme> i think the primary concern is sterility 15:20 < Tyrant> If you're storing them differently than using them then you're adding unnecessary complexity 15:20 < delinquentme> which im prettyyy sure will be maintained 15:20 < delinquentme> Tyrant: disagree 15:20 < Tyrant> you either force the user to some how handle them, ro add a completely extraneous robotic arm to separate them 15:21 < delinquentme> compare picking a single tip from a case versus the repetative motion of just one from the end of a stack 15:21 < Tyrant> you pick up a tip by pushing the pipettor tip into the disposable tip 15:21 < delinquentme> Tyrant: yes as in placement on a case of tips 15:21 < Tyrant> by pushing you create more surface contact, more friction 15:21 < delinquentme> you're talking through that grid 15:22 < delinquentme> walking* 15:22 < Tyrant> and any force locking the tip onto the pipettor wil also lock the tips in the stack 15:23 -!- ybit [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:24 < delinquentme> this doesnt answer the question im asking 15:24 < Tyrant> I can't answer the sterility question without knowing how you plan to pack them 15:25 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-74-229.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: quit] 15:35 -!- CapNemo [u1995@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vjsrxdfgxhdoduyl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02 -!- ybit [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:12 -!- CapNemo [u1995@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aiyknubirpvotign] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:17 -!- delinquentme [~chatzilla@c-67-186-15-75.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 6.0.1/20110830092941]] 16:27 -!- Fiohnel [~r3idslash@111.94.244.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:33 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-73-131.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:48 < JayDugger> Good evening, everyone. 16:52 < ybit> fml 16:52 < ybit> moin JayDugger 16:52 < ybit> adíos amigos 16:52 -!- ybit [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:57 < kanzure> wow what a dick answer http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/09/microchip-responds.html 16:58 < JayDugger> Did you get any sleep? 17:00 < kanzure> dunno, i hope so 17:00 < JayDugger> Zeo and FitBit have low prices on eBay. 17:01 < JayDugger> I hope your sleep soon returns to normal. 17:07 < kanzure> ayah is providing $2k scholarships for open source hardware 17:08 < kanzure> requires a youtube video (yawn) 17:08 < kanzure> not even gsoc asks for a video.. yeesh 17:20 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:31 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:23 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:31 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-73-131.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:53 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:05 -!- Juul [~juul@208.87.217.74] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:36 -!- Juul [~juul@208.87.217.74] has quit [Quit: bye] 21:02 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:03 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:20 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@78.9.75.10] has quit [Quit: uniqanomaly] 21:40 -!- Jaakko94 [~Jaakko@host86-131-176-188.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 21:48 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:00 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:30 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:59 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-86-140.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Thu Sep 08 00:00:00 2011