--- Log opened Sat Sep 10 00:00:03 2011 00:04 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:05 -!- strages [~makers@c-71-207-181-192.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:07 -!- strages [~makers@c-71-207-181-192.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:30 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:36 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:52 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-94-89.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:14 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:14 -!- klafka_ [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:51 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone. 01:59 -!- klafka_ [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:59 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:00 < kanzure> good morning 03:00 < JayDugger> Still suffering insomnia's slings and stones? 03:00 < kanzure> no i'm just upside-down 03:34 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 04:40 -!- Fiohnel [~r3idslash@111.94.244.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:51 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:12 < kanzure> i'm a little disappointed to see phil writing posts for lesswrongng 06:13 < kanzure> also disappointed to learn that jcvi uses svn 06:13 < kanzure> *lesswrong 06:43 < JayDugger> Everyone needs a hobby. 06:43 < JayDugger> Subversion's a weird hobby, but it might have been CVS. 07:07 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:28 -!- kle0012 [~anon@c-69-244-1-238.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:07 < klafka> hey 09:08 < kle0012> Hi. 09:08 -!- Technicus [~nomadicus@66-190-14-100.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:02 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-76-125-242-200.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:02 < delinquentme> humans are cool mmm kay? 10:02 < delinquentme> http://deusex.com/ 10:06 < AlonzoTG> I like SVN. 10:06 < AlonzoTG> great VCS. 10:06 < AlonzoTG> =) 10:16 < klafka> oh? 10:25 < delinquentme> whut? 10:25 < delinquentme> GIT =] 10:25 < klafka> ive been using git 10:39 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:40 -!- sdr_ [SDr@cpc6-dals18-2-0-cust155.hari.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:41 -!- sdr_ is now known as SDr 10:41 -!- SDr [SDr@cpc6-dals18-2-0-cust155.hari.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Changing host] 10:41 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:46 -!- Jaakko94 [~Jaakko@host86-131-176-188.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:58 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:06 -!- Technicus [~nomadicus@66-190-14-100.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:06 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:17 < AlonzoTG> Somewhere in an underground world domination headquarters: 11:18 < AlonzoTG> Leutenant: "Sir, we've got a problem! Developers have integrated SVN into their IDEs such as Netbeans and Kdevelop and many others, now even REGULAR PEOPLE can use it!" 11:18 < AlonzoTG> General: "This is an emergency! Discontinue promotion of SVN AT ONCE, deploy GIT in all sectors!!! that will keep the new developers away from free software!" 11:29 -!- klafka [~diane@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:37 -!- Technicus [~nomadicus@66-190-14-100.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:57 < kanzure> uh oh we have an IDE-lover 11:57 -!- diane [~diane@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:58 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-76-125-242-200.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 6.0.2/20110902133214]] 12:11 -!- diane is now known as klafka 12:17 < kanzure> hi kle0012 12:18 < kle0012> Hi kanzure. 12:21 -!- Technicus [~nomadicus@66-190-14-100.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:31 -!- Technicus [~nomadicus@66-190-14-100.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:41 -!- nuba [~nuba@pauleira.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:41 -!- nuba [~nuba@pauleira.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:48 -!- Jaakko95 [~Jaakko@host81-157-105-60.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:49 -!- Jaakko94 [~Jaakko@host86-131-176-188.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:51 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-94-89.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Quit: uniqanomaly] 13:06 -!- CryptoQuick [~CryptoQui@c-174-51-232-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: CryptoQuick] 13:14 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:18 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has quit [] 13:27 -!- kle0012 [~anon@c-69-244-1-238.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: (wiRC v9.0) download it @ www.warIRC.com] 13:30 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:31 -!- klafka [~diane@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:35 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:12 -!- CryptoQuick [~CryptoQui@c-174-51-232-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:23 -!- Technicus [~nomadicus@66-190-14-100.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:27 -!- Technicus [~nomadicus@66-190-14-100.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:44 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:51 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:57 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:08 -!- Tyrant [~Tyrant@c-76-21-1-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:12 -!- CapNemo [u1995@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aiyknubirpvotign] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:42 -!- diane [~diane@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:19 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-58-232.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:28 < eudoxia> aww shit someone stole the name Machine Phase Systems, Ltd. 18:28 < eudoxia> anyways, recently i heard strained diamond nanostructures, like the Merkle/Freitas/Drexler nanomachinery, would collapse and reform into a less strained shape 18:29 < eudoxia> how much of a problem is this? 18:31 < QuantumG> sounds like structural engineering. 18:32 < kanzure> if that's a thing then there'd be at least one paper about a simulation of that happening 18:32 < kanzure> maybe you can find it? 18:32 < eudoxia> http://www.softmachines.org/wordpress/?p=175 18:32 < eudoxia> first point 18:34 < eudoxia> in http://www.softmachines.org/wordpress/?p=448 Merkle mentioned that 'properly passivated' structures wouldn't undergo that kind of reconstruction, Jones pointed out that they did, at low temperatures 18:34 -!- jenzebubble is now known as jennicide 18:34 < QuantumG> I don't think there's anyone who dismisses Drexler out of hand (first paragraph) 18:34 < eudoxia> I wonder what he means by properly passivated: Does it make a different if the surface is passivated with hydrogen, oxygen, boron etc? 18:35 -!- audy [~audy@vps.heyaudy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:37 < audy> gitduino? 18:37 < kanzure> i wrote some git post-receive hooks to render openscad and python-based CAD scripts 18:37 < kanzure> and have been meaning to put it up on a git-repository-hosting-site for hardware sharing 18:50 < kanzure> "I blame Eric Raymond and to a lesser extent Dave Winer for bringing this kind of schlock writing onto the Internet. Raymond is the original perpetrator of the "what is a hacker?" essay, in which you quickly begin to understand that a hacker is someone who resembles Eric Raymond." 18:50 < kanzure> hee 18:51 < QuantumG> I don't think all spastic gun nuts are hackers. 18:53 < eudoxia> snorfling cashew nuts bwahaha 18:54 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-58-232.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:54 < QuantumG> almonds hate me 18:55 < JayDugger> Richard Jones. Explaining the obvious for how long now? 18:57 < jrayhawk> would you like me to enable anonymous account registration on diyhpl.us 18:58 < kanzure> piny shells? 18:58 < jrayhawk> Yeah. 18:58 < kanzure> yeah that's fine 18:58 < kanzure> i should probably also update the .debs for that 18:58 < kanzure> or update the system 18:58 < jrayhawk> I can also shove the crappy CGIs I have for that on there somewhere. 18:59 < kanzure> the organization has grown into sort of a mess 18:59 < kanzure> fenn wasn't happy about /home/ being flooded with all the working dirs but i dunno an alternative 19:00 < jrayhawk> I can switch to /home/group/user fairly easily if you want. 19:00 < kanzure> is group a variable 19:00 < jrayhawk> yes 19:00 < jrayhawk> sorry 19:00 < kanzure> i don't see how that would help? 19:01 < JayDugger> What's the source for the ESR and David Winer quote? Never mind, found it. 19:02 < jrayhawk> oh, yeah, i guess that would still be irritating in that case. I can make iki-$name a secondary group, then. 19:03 < kanzure> so /home/constant/iki-whatnow/something/.git 19:04 < jrayhawk> The actual checkouts live in /srv/ikiwiki. I suppose it's not strictly necessary for the iki-$name accounts to have real home dirs. 19:06 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-73-131.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:08 < jrayhawk> Hmm. I wish adduser.conf was more flexible. 19:13 < kanzure> oh geeze i haven't released my wrappers for non-opencascade-based cad yet 19:23 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:15 -!- augur_ [~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:15 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21 -!- augur_ [~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:30 -!- CryptoQuick [~CryptoQui@c-174-51-232-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Join New Direction in Space on Facebook! http://is.gd/ndispace] 20:34 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:54 -!- Jaakko95 [~Jaakko@host81-157-105-60.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 20:55 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:01 -!- Technicus [~nomadicus@66-190-14-100.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:10 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:29 -!- diane [~diane@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:58 -!- ybit [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:58 < ybit> i'm game for going for the 2kUSD scholarship 21:58 < ybit> my ideas suck though 21:59 < ybit> afm/stm stuff is patented away which would make an open hardware license laughable in courts 21:59 -!- strages [~makers@c-71-207-181-192.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:59 * ybit wonders how many max submissions one can have 22:00 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:03 < kanzure> make sure you get naked in your video :rolleyes: 22:06 < ybit> not the first time i've been naked in a video, we can do this 22:07 < ybit> let's get creative and submit a proposal where 6 naked internet creeps describe the idea 22:10 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:15 < ybit> hi mayko 22:15 < ybit> bye now 22:15 -!- ybit [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:16 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:24 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-73-131.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:32 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:41 -!- Fiohnel [~r3idslash@111.94.244.68] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:49 -!- ianmathwiz7 [~chatzilla@x-134-84-100-61.reshalls.umn.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:50 -!- ianmathwiz7 [~chatzilla@x-134-84-100-61.reshalls.umn.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 22:52 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:53 -!- diane [~diane@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:14 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:35 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:46 -!- strages [~makers@c-71-207-181-192.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:54 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-73-131.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] --- Log closed Sun Sep 11 00:00:05 2011