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00:30 < kanzure> http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1109/1109.4897.pdf
00:30 < kanzure> Measurement of the neutrino velocity with the OPERA detector
00:30 < kanzure> in the CNGS beam
00:31 < kanzure> or this: http://usersguidetotheuniverse.com/?p=2169
00:58 < kanzure> i don't understand what this is: http://www.youtube.com/user/SEGA
01:05 < kanzure> https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/direct-patent-office-cease-issuing-software-patents/vvNslSTq
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03:15 < kanzure> http://code.google.com/p/pokeengine/source/browse/trunk/IAPL_Engine/IAPL_Engine/IAPL_Engine/Pokemon/BasePokemon.cs
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03:41 < kanzure> nice.. disassembled pokemon red
03:41 < kanzure> https://bitbucket.org/iimarckus/pokered/src/9775b379a90a/pokered.asm
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06:38 < fenn> matty G is in austin this weekend, probably busy though
06:41 < fenn> more likely than going faster than light is those neutrinos are just going through naturally occurring time portals
06:41 < fenn> or wormholes, whatever
06:42 < fenn> there sure are a lot of names on that paper
07:06 < kanzure> it's actually just one person with a really long name
07:10 < Utopiah> http://webcast.web.cern.ch/webcast/ OPERA talk
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07:47 < kanzure> what useful wavelengths match the length of my leg?
08:01 < kanzure> i need to start naming all of my projects after dangerous chemicals
08:02 < kanzure> dimethylhydrazine.py
08:35 < phryk> I decided to give somewhat nonsensical names that reflect the overall code-quality.
08:36 < phryk> like shitocide and lizardsnot
08:43 < kanzure> maybe pokemon names
09:30 < fenn> oh, "1.0000248 times as fast as light" not "2.48 times as fast as light"
09:30 < fenn> right, back to my original prediction, instrumentation error
09:31 < fenn> i mean really, what's the chance that something got so close to exactly the speed of light but for some unknown reason is slightly different?
09:31 < fenn> also, nagaland
09:31 < fenn> has anyone ever heard of nagaland? the country
09:31 < fenn> or something like that
09:32 < fenn> i think i want to go there and spread the good word
09:32 < fenn> doggie style (reverse missionary)
09:33 < fenn> fucking capital is 90% baptist
09:35 < fenn> http://xkcd.com/955/
09:42 < kanzure> *poke* do things..
09:47 < kanzure> interesting things, i mean
09:47 < kanzure> philipe torrone has been asking about skdb a bit
09:47 < kanzure> but i dunno if i can stand him or not
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11:12 < fenn> today i made a glow in the dark volleyball
11:13 < fenn> one sec, will take a picture
11:17 < kanzure> today i met this guy: http://pokanalysis.ubitux.fr/
11:17 < kanzure> then wrote mountains of code that nobody will ever appreciate
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11:20 < fenn> hm guess it was out of focus
11:22 < fenn> http://fennetic.net/irc/volleyball_uncharged.jpg
11:22 < fenn> http://fennetic.net/irc/volleyball_charged.jpg
11:22 < fenn> http://fennetic.net/irc/volleyball_charged_dark.jpg
11:26 < kanzure> i wish more things looked like that
11:27 < fenn> well let's just coat everything with glow in the dark goo
11:30 < fenn> this stuff is actually pretty bright: http://fennetic.net/irc/glow_goo.jpg
11:31 < fenn> think i should use silicone caulk next time instead of shoe goo
11:36 < fenn> "cerulean blue..."
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12:09 < fenn> more glowy crap http://fennetic.net/irc/glow_fern_spine.jpg
12:13 < fenn> i guess the main problem with being too smart is there's no down time
12:13 < fenn> you never get a chance to catch up on little things or boring work for the parents or whatever
12:13 < fenn> and waiting in line is maddening
12:14 < fenn> there's a constant stream of awesome ideas
12:14 < fenn> just writing down the night's thoughts takes up half the day
12:14 < fenn> but these days kids expect perfectly rendered architectural "concept" portfolios for every pitch
12:15 < kanzure> the trick is to just get faster at making those perfect pitches
12:15 < kanzure> churn 'em out
12:16 < kanzure> the takes-too-long-to-write thing is why i don't blog
12:16 < fenn> i'm considering blogging
12:16 < kanzure> you already have significant overhead with your minute log
12:16 < fenn> too hard to figure out what to do with all the content
12:16 < fenn> minute log is background process
12:16 < kanzure> haha no it's not
12:16 < fenn> that's one thing i havent caught up on
12:16 < fenn> transcribing into computer
12:16 < fenn> nobody can read my handwriting either
12:18 < kanzure> meetlog.txt is verging on 3MB
12:18 < kanzure> of mostly handwritten data
12:19 < fenn> trouble is it takes like an hour to do a drawing and there's 97 items
12:19 < fenn> most of which would take at least 20 minutes to explain wtf i'm on about
12:19 < fenn> with hand-waving
12:20 < fenn> http://fennetic.net/irc/collective_conscious_zero
12:20 < fenn> sorry 92 items
12:20 < kanzure> carl jung! bleh
12:20 < kanzure> david pearce? bleh bleh
12:20 < kanzure> he has his new campaign out called "zero state"
12:21 < kanzure> so he's spamming all the transhumanists about it
12:21 < kanzure> it's really lame.
12:21 < fenn> yes that's funny, how long has that been going?
12:22 < fenn> if i believed in a state i might be interested, but i'm not
12:22 < fenn> the whole site's politics, wtf are they thinking
12:22 < fenn> the whole point of anarchism is you get to do the interesting stuff instead
12:22 < kanzure> more of the same
12:22 < kanzure> they have lost sight of what is interesting
12:23 < fenn> who is they
12:23 < kanzure> i could draw up a list of names of transhumanists i guess
12:24 < fenn> who is zero state? i mean who is actually writing the lame hierarchies etc
12:24 < kanzure> hey so phillip torrone and bruce perens have been going at it over email
12:24 < kanzure> they really hate each other
12:24 < fenn> good for them
12:24 < kanzure> fenn: david pearce i think. i think he has some people involved though.
12:24 < kanzure> fenn: well, about open source hardware specifically
12:24 < fenn> well, torrone actually knows something in that area
12:25 < fenn> perens invented "spime" and ...?
12:25 < kanzure> their discussions are primarily about licensing
12:25 < fenn> sorry that was bruce sterling
12:25 < fenn> who the fuck is bruce perens?
12:25 < kanzure> open source institute guy
12:25 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Perens
12:25 < fenn> ok i guess i maintained that hash collision for 5 years
12:26 < fenn> bruce *er* something something open source
12:26 < kanzure> mumle mumble
12:27 < kanzure> phillip's writing style really gets on my nerves because it seems like he's constantly condescending and the feely-good-kiss-your-ass type
12:27 < kanzure> but on the other hand he's raking in huge amounts of cash.. good for him i guess
12:27 < fenn> what list is this on btw? or just twit-o-sphere mishmash?
12:27 < kanzure> i mean the type that likes to gain ground by implying that everybody except him isn't a team player
12:27 < kanzure> this is on the updates@openhardwaresummit.org list
12:28 < kanzure> i've been forward interesting non-inflammatory snippits to openmanufacturing
12:28 < kanzure> *forwarding
12:28 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing
12:28 < fenn> "Tiberius Brastaviceanu" seriously?
12:29 < kanzure> i think he's a troll
12:32 < kanzure> it's realy weird because phillip keeps offering to bruce "hey i'll publish your stuff if you'd only write about it dude in make magazine"
12:32 < kanzure> like he needs help or something..
12:32 < kanzure> i mean, implying that bruce's problem is lack of publicity, rather than lack-of-phillip-understanding or something
12:33 < kanzure> anyway.. boring stuff ultimately
12:33 < fenn> i tend to agree with kuniholm re: hardware licenses
12:33 < kanzure> hey are you ever gonna write more code for anything
12:33 < fenn> unknown
12:33 < kanzure> it's yes or no fenn
12:33 < fenn> i'm not that smart yet
12:33 < kanzure> don't become steve
12:33 < fenn> i mean, i can guess at things but i can't predict the future
12:34 < fenn> aw man but i wanted his cool wraparound yellow glasses
12:34 < kanzure> can you come up with rational-sounding complex motivation hierarchies and espound upon them in long sentences?
12:35 < fenn> "tis support systems all the way down"
12:35 < fenn> would you like a candy, my boy?
12:35 < kanzure> rawr setBackgroundColor isn't setting background color (!)
12:35 < fenn> because you're not looking at the background
12:36 < fenn> probably a square on top of the background
12:36 < fenn> that's how they do things these days no? paste random divs everywhere and hope for the best?
12:36 < kanzure> it's android xml layout stuff
12:36 < kanzure> but yeah it's actually a bunch of images layered on top of each other
12:37 < kanzure> each image is transparent except for some marking of a certain type
12:37 < kanzure> when you combine them you see a car and where to cut with jaws of life
12:37 < fenn> oh
12:37 < kanzure> or where the batteries are and where the fuel tanks are
12:37 < fenn> and the background is a color?
12:37 < kanzure> the background is set on a java widget thing
12:38 < kanzure> haha maybe i will load a solid background color image
12:38 < kanzure> god
12:38 < fenn> worse is better remember?
12:39 < fenn> actually i think this is the more orthogonal solution
12:39 < fenn> for what that's worth
12:39 < kanzure> i also haven't slept in a few days so that's probably also the problem
12:39 < kanzure> maybe i have my hex wrong.. 0x000000 is still black right?
12:40 < fenn> maybe they want #000000
12:40 < fenn> or "black"
12:40 < kanzure> it's a hex object integer thing
12:40 < kanzure> #000000 isn't valid java
12:40 < fenn> i thought you said it was xml
12:40 < kanzure> "black" would be cool except they don't believe in strings in this part of the api
12:40 < kanzure> yeah there's an xml part and there's this code part that changes the background color (setBackgroundColor)
12:41 < kanzure> the xml can't be updated
12:41 < kanzure> so if you want things to change or be different, you change things on your own
12:41 < fenn> what, a variable?! i thought those went out of style
12:42 < fenn> we all decided to separate content and presentation and then got rid of the code layer
12:42 < fenn> i mean, code and content, i mean, wait..
12:42 < fenn> ah i've got it.
12:42 < fenn> "the medium is the message."
12:43 < kanzure> your mom is the message
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14:11 < Utopiah> http://librarypirate.me
14:16 < uniqanomaly> http://en.bookfi.org/ [;
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16:30 < epitron> http://library.nu
16:33 < epitron> this looks like a good one: http://library.nu/docs/F0DZXME2W4/
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20:59 < delinquentme> IMMM GOOOINNN to OPENNN SCIENCEEE SUMMIIITTTT
20:59 < delinquentme> WOOOOOO!!!!
21:01 < delinquentme> kanzure: are you gonna be there??
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22:54 < joshcryer> QuantumG, "What Darwin was too polite to say, my friends, is that we came to rule the Earth not because we were the smartest, or even the meanest, but because we have always been the craziest, most murderous motherfuckers in the jungle."
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22:55 < QuantumG> I object to the word craziest.. perhaps ruthless would be more accurate.
22:59 < joshcryer> I like craziest because we thought to do crazy stuff like put a rock on the end of a stick.
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23:10 < joshcryer> Been catching up: http://arxiv.org/find/all/1/all:+memristor/0/1/0/all/0/1
23:10 < joshcryer> A Memristive Model Compatible with Triplet Rule for Spike-Timing-Dependent-Plasticity: http://arxiv.org/abs/1108.4299
23:11 < joshcryer> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike-timing-dependent_plasticity (if you didn't know STDP)
23:23 < delinquentme> later!
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23:34 < QuantumG> anyone still have a kuro5hin account?
23:35 < joshcryer> I don't think I ever had one.
23:36 < joshcryer> Same with Slashdot.
23:36 < QuantumG> nice
23:37 < joshcryer> (to be sure I tried logging in with my name / various nicks, no go)
23:38 < QuantumG> watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K8NkJpUei4
23:39 < joshcryer> Ooh. Is that the IAmA video?
23:39 < joshcryer> Or have they not done that yet?
23:39 < QuantumG> I have no idea what that is :)
23:39 < joshcryer> OK screw this ad. *downloads*
23:40 < joshcryer> http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/kkn5v/ask_tesla_spacex_and_paypal_cofounder_elon_musk/
23:43 < joshcryer> Elon Musk Mahalo Mentor Interview(1080p_H.264-AAC).mp4
23:43 < joshcryer> Definitely recommend downloading. :D
23:44 < joshcryer> Memristive fuzzy edge detector: http://arxiv.org/abs/1109.4609
23:44 < QuantumG> I love the way all the other videos on this channel are cooking videos
23:54 < joshcryer> Heh, Elon shouldn't be taking the blame for the messed up aspects of Paypal. He's too humble sometimes.
23:55 < QuantumG> or too polite to say "hey retards!"
23:56 < joshcryer> I played a bit of Second Life lately.
23:56 < joshcryer> It destroyed my expectations.
23:57 < joshcryer> ie, I expected too much.
23:57 < QuantumG> I had one good experience playing Second Life so I quit
23:57 < QuantumG> I knew it was entirely mundane and lame, so I quit while I was ahead.
23:57 < joshcryer> I met some really nice people but the technology, I'm just unimpressed.
23:59 < QuantumG> I was flying around the world and decided to follow a river. I saw something in the middle of the river and figured I'd go down to have a look.. it was some sort of floating platform.. so I set down and looked around.
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