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00:03 < joshcryer> Garret posted this mockup for the Science Hostel site: http://sciencehostel.org:9090/static/guests/index.html
00:03 < joshcryer> And this description: https://plus.google.com/url?sa=z&n=1317539027465&url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2FView%3Fid%3Ddp4z3f6_9dtdxvhft%26pli%3D1&usg=E4qm_xaZVMuPvT_FObS5bYmrxgM.
00:04 < joshcryer> He gots several people saying they'll help already.
00:04 < joshcryer> Ahh the power of relative fame + internet. :)
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03:02 < JayDugger> QuantumG--Radical Abundance from Drexler might appear next year.
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03:04 < JayDugger> Latest rumor I have says pre-orders might begin "sometime next year.:
03:04 < JayDugger> And yes, Nanosystems does make hard reading. (I found Naked Lunch easier to follow, but my math skills suck.)
03:13 < QuantumG> it's really a reference volume.
03:14 < QuantumG> I really don't care about the acoustic properties of logic rods
03:15 < QuantumG> but I imagine someone reads everything up to that point and says "ahh!! what about the acoustic properties?!  this won't work!!" and then Drexler whips their ass with math
03:42 < JayDugger> Freitas gave me the same impression in Nanomedicine. i checked what math I could follow without finding any errors, and then realized the main objection would come from his assumption of molecular manufacturing.
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07:42 < kanzure> bloo
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10:11 < CryptoQuick> redd
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10:37 < uniqanomaly> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spF6A2QK31s
10:38 < CryptoQuick> heh
10:38 < CryptoQuick> wasn't there a movie about that sort of thing? dystopian future, underground highway... can't recall the name.
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15:26 < jrayhawk> I dunno how far afield you're willing to go in terms of subject for your h+ video site, Bryan, but http://vimeo.com/29402977 http://vimeo.com/27961539 and http://vimeo.com/27692174 are pretty cool
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15:33 < kanzure> jrayhawk: oh i should probably give that a more permanent home huh
15:33 < jrayhawk> Presumably. Let me know if you want me to WSGIze it into Apache or something.
15:34 < kanzure> blehrm..
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15:34 < kanzure> it's sorta pointless
15:34 < kanzure> right now
15:35 < jrayhawk> Also let me know if those sorts of dense biochemistry presentations are up your alley; I'm slowly going through that AHS collection.
15:35 < kanzure> they are.. the best format is a list of urls btw
15:36 < jrayhawk> As opposed to...?
15:37 < kanzure> more specifically a giant file of urls that i can import
15:37 < kanzure> the way the site works is that i dump in a url into a class constructor and save the objects to the db
15:38 < jrayhawk> Ah. Are you planning on saving videos (a la clive or yt-dl or get_flash_Videos) or using existing hosting and using embeds/iframes/whatever?
15:38 < kanzure> right now i'm using embed.ly
15:38 < kanzure> i'm ok with saving videos somewhere
15:38 < jrayhawk> I guess embedding is a lot safer, copyright-wise.
15:39 < kanzure> nah just faster when i was writing the site :p
15:39 < kanzure> i spent only two days on it.. january 1 & 2 this year
15:40 < kanzure> i want an html5 version of the site that's optimized for mobile viewing
15:41 < kanzure> also i'd like to figure out what the point of the site should be.. just a giant list of videos isn't that useful or something that would become anything except "a really complicated way of doing bookmarks"
15:42 < jrayhawk> Well, we could start archiving and transcoding the list of videos to an open and accessible format.
15:42 < jrayhawk> Not sure I want to host them on gnusha since the network admins respond rather harshly to copyright complaints
15:43 < kanzure> do i want users.. using the site?
15:43 < kanzure> like your audio overlay scheme
15:44 < jrayhawk> I think you'd be happier with a blog that only trusted users could post to.
15:44 < jrayhawk> Since you're generally unhappy with empowering stupid people (and youtube/vimeo/et al already do that)
15:45 < jrayhawk> empowering stupid people to do stupid things, that is
15:45 < kanzure> ah.
15:47 < kanzure> ok i guess that's a better scheme than what i have now
15:48 < jrayhawk> And you already support comments, so you can gauge interest in discussion and add features as necessary to engender it.
15:49 < jrayhawk> I personally think you should try to toss as much stuff as possible together to centralize the h+ ecosystem somewhere other than the h+ foundation
15:50 < jrayhawk> who seem to want to do the same thing, only for worse reasons and more incompetently
15:50 < kanzure> heh
15:50 < kanzure> well, collecting things seems to be my special super power
15:52 < kanzure> but shouldn't i be spending my time on coding
15:54 < jrayhawk> do good however you're best able to sustain doing goodness
15:54 < kanzure> that sounds cultish
15:56 < QuantumG> the FSM wants you to love ramen
15:57 < jrayhawk> finite state machine?
15:57 < jrayhawk> oh, flying spaghetti monster
15:58 < kanzure> bwahaha http://api.stlouisfed.org/docs/fred/
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17:30 < CryptoQuick> lawl, I read that as finite state machine as well
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18:57 < fenn> joshcryer: i'm also doing ai-class and ml-class
18:58 < fenn> kanzure: try applying the feynman algorithm for problem solving
19:00 < fenn> what the hell does phantomjs have to do with qt?
19:03 < fenn> joshcryer: if you actually find a NIST materials database, please let me know
19:05 < fenn> also you'd think "international chemical identifier" would have ID in the acronym somewher
19:05 < fenn> jesus 27 character hash is the short version?
19:07 < kanzure> phantomjs requires qt? that's a shame
19:08 < kanzure> it's probably for webkit..
19:30 < joshcryer> fenn, nice. There's another one here doing it too.
19:30 < joshcryer> I wonder if there's an #aiclass
19:30 < joshcryer> Yep, there's an #ai-class
19:30 < joshcryer> Cool.
19:33 < joshcryer> fenn, as far as materials database, what are you looking for? Sorry, I'm a dullard.
19:33 < joshcryer> Here are all NIST's databases: http://www.nist.gov/srd/
19:33 < joshcryer> You have to pay for hardcopies (some weird copyright thing by the department of commerce). But a few of them are digitally available online.
19:34 < joshcryer> Here's materials properties: http://www.nist.gov/srd/materials.cfm
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19:35 < joshcryer> Best one there is, imo, their polymer database
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19:51 < kanzure> headless used to mean "no gui libraries" right?
19:52 < QuantumG> ya
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