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01:45 < joshcryer> Robert Ettinger, Larry King, and Ted Williams, that's the cryonics portfolio of people of note, only one of whom really would fit an H+ narrative.
01:47 < joshcryer> There is a mathematician and a TV producer but no one knows 'em.
01:50 < joshcryer> Shatner needs to get on that bandwagon, lord knows he has the ego to go for it... then again, being frozen might go against a perverted sense of what he deems a honorable death or something.
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05:16 < Starrk> Look.
05:16 < Starrk> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature10489.html
05:20 < archels> s/look/feel/
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09:36 < kanzure> http://discovermagazine.com/2011/oct/21-dawn-of-the-biohackers
09:53 < kanzure> http://opensource.com/health/11/10/hackteria-give-your-old-devices-new-life
09:57 < CryptoQuick> "I'm not so sure my hosting provider uses a cloud because they claim to be wind powered and the two statements would seem conflicting"
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10:37 < kanzure> CryptoQuick: my servers are powered by collective cognitive dissonance
10:37 < kanzure> actually in reality it's just jrayhawk's cognitive dissonance
10:39 < CryptoQuick> not impressed until I see semen-powered servers
10:42 < Starrk> O.O
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11:47 < kanzure> jrayhawk: http://hackertalks.tv/
11:48 < kanzure> maybe a model for hplusvideo
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12:02 < archels> models? *furiously clicking*
12:07 < kanzure> http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/10/makes-exclusive-interview-with-bre-pettis-of-makerbot-life-10m-in-funding-and-beyond.html
12:07 < kanzure> also i've been thinking of trying this:
12:07 < kanzure> http://quantcorner.wordpress.com/2011/06/13/algodeal-2-a-first-automated-trading-and-profitable-strategy/
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16:17 < kanzure> woah what the fuck
16:17 < kanzure> http://sgcmermaid.blogspot.com/2011/09/halcyon-molecular-culture-of-dishonesty.html
16:17 < kanzure> "This morning Halja sent this message to William & Michael Andregg, Charlotte Bowel, Kent Kemmish, Jonathon Stark, Luke Nosek, whom are all Halcyon Molecular employees that Dr. Hitler-Bot introduced Halja to when he was sexually abusing her."
16:17 < kanzure> "Dr. Randal A. Koene will be in court within the next year for a DNA test to verify his paternity of his rapechild Syrena Grey Chronos. If William is still employing the sophisticated rapist at that point then he and other people at Halcyon will be responsible for managing Dr. Randal Koene's wage garnishment so that his child will be supported."
16:17 < kanzure> " I am sending you a picture of the child whose quality of life William and other Halcyon employees will be fucking with if Halcyon employees continue to help Randal Koene evade responsibility for his rapechild.http://sgcmermaid.blogspot.com/2011/09/sgcmermaid-smiles.html"
16:18 < kanzure> huh?
16:20 < kanzure> http://sgcmermaid.blogspot.com/2011/07/dr-randal-arvid-koene-dr-hitler-bot-and.html
16:20 < kanzure> dude don't stick your dick in crazy
16:20 < CryptoQuick> ;D
16:24 < kanzure> apparently he has a restraining order against her
16:27 < kanzure> http://sgcmermaid.blogspot.com/search/label/evidence%20of%20rape%20by%20fraud%2Fdeception
16:41 < klafka> hey anyone have access to journals?
16:42 < kanzure> yes
16:42 < klafka> i want to get some papers to disprove some wacko nutritionalists on reddit
16:42 < klafka> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S002196731001246X
16:42 < kanzure> always a good cause..
16:42 < klafka> like i'm doing a ketosis diet currently, but i like browsing r/keto and arguing with the keto people that they are retarded
16:43 < klafka> like legumes cause cancer
16:43 < klafka> well outside of the rather obtuse argument that they do
16:45 < kanzure> hrm i am having trouble downloading the pdf file
16:45 < kanzure> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=MiamiImageURL&_cid=271409&_user=1694017&_pii=S002196731001246X&_check=y&_origin=&_coverDate=05-Nov-2010&view=c&wchp=dGLbVlS-zSkWb&_valck=1&md5=4d0b96164c99da4264a514e91edceae1&ie=/sdarticle.pdf
16:46 < klafka> Sorry, your request can't be processed due to a system problem. Contact the Help Desk if the problem persists. [SD-008]
16:46 < klafka> :(
16:52 < kanzure> well, that's becaues you don't have access
16:52 < kanzure> mine just says 400 BAD REQUEST
16:58 < Steel> Anyone know if this is real? http://lifeforhacking.blogspot.com/2010/09/my-second-implant-by-estragon.html
17:01 < klafka> ah
17:01 < klafka> how about http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006899310023887
17:31 < jrayhawk> http://vimeo.com/27570335 might be a real fast way of getting them to stop claiming "lectins will all kill you"
17:31 < kanzure> i should make a presentation about stealing papers
17:31 < kanzure> or a tutorial
17:31 < kanzure> yeah just a tutorial
17:31 < kanzure> however, my sources might dry up
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18:00 < jrayhawk> Man, getting romanticly involved with someone with the apparent intellectual age of thirteen is not a flattering thing for someone with a doctorate to do.
18:05 < kanzure> jrayhawk: i'm a little surprised with how clean the logs are
18:08 < jrayhawk> How so?
18:09 < kanzure> do you really have to ask that ?
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20:09 < joshcryer> "Death is the single best invention of life." Stupid.
20:10  * ybit refrains from a momma joke
20:11 < CryptoQuick> my dick is the single best invention of life~
20:12  * ybit refrains from making an in the butt joke
20:12  * ybit considers catching up on emails
20:13 < ybit> free calls with asterisk...
20:13 < CryptoQuick> did you get the one I sent you of my dick?
20:14 < joshcryer> I didn't get that one. :(
20:15  * ybit needs his backups drives on a network somewhere
20:15 < ybit> physical work is tedious
20:15 < joshcryer> I agree.
20:16 < joshcryer> The whole reason for me to care about H+ is my incomprehensible laziness.
20:17 < foucist> upload yourself so you don't have to worry about getting your lazy ass off the chair and exercise?
20:17 < ybit> get to work on that already!
20:18  * ybit can't remember what he was planning on doing
20:18 < joshcryer> I'm 175 and I can run a 6 minute miles so bah.
20:18 < joshcryer> I'mma buy some land and build a house and do all sorts of H+ stuff. Just watch and see1
20:18 < kanzure> buying a house seems like a fucking retarded first step
20:18 < kanzure> sorry.
20:19 < ybit> i've got the land, you can skip that part
20:19 < joshcryer> I agree.
20:19 < joshcryer> That's why I'm building one.
20:19 < foucist> and i've got the house building experience
20:19 < joshcryer> ybit, where is it located?
20:19 < foucist> built a house w/ my dad from the ground up
20:19 < foucist> let's all go to ybit's land
20:19 < kanzure> geh
20:19 < foucist> and build a house
20:19 < foucist> kanzure: :P
20:20 < ybit> about 50 minutes west of huntsville
20:20 < joshcryer> foucist, I built an entire barracks, I win.
20:20 < foucist> kanzure: what's the first step then ;)
20:20 < ybit> huntsville, al
20:20 < ybit> ~60 acres
20:20 < kanzure> foucist: what are you doing? flipping real estate?
20:20 < kanzure> if so that's an ok first step
20:20 < joshcryer> ybit, not enough solar insolation. I'm getting 360 acres in the Arizona desert.
20:21 < foucist> first step seems to be to create an intentional community of some kind yeah?
20:21 < kanzure> for what!
20:21 < ybit> a friend of mine is now in argentina
20:21 < kanzure> o_o
20:21 < ybit> he was hung up at customs w/ his reprap
20:21 < foucist> kanzure: H+ stuffs apparently no idea ;)
20:21 < joshcryer> foucist, that's my plan.
20:21 < ybit> for 4 hours
20:21 < kanzure> i am disappointed
20:21 < ybit> they thought he was using it for business
20:21  * kanzure goes away
20:21 < foucist> joshcryer: solar isolation?
20:22 < foucist> kanzure: you should be! :P
20:22 < kanzure> what about human enhancement requires an intentional community
20:22  * ybit pokes kanzure where foucist told me joshcryer said CryptoQuick likes it
20:22 < kanzure> who gives a crap? intentional communities are nice of course but?
20:22 < joshcryer> foucist, http://www.nrel.gov/gis/images/map_pv_us_january_may2004.jpg
20:24 < joshcryer> kanzure, let's see, you can go and rent a nice little spot somewhere, deal with the various regulations, deal with the lease contract, deal with the electric bill, deal with the water bill, deal with people being pissed off because you're making loud noises, polluting, etc, etc. Or you can go find a spot in the middle of nowhere and not have to deal with a great majority of the issues
20:24 < joshcryer> you face in a city or community.
20:27 < ybit> if you can power all your hardwares from solar, ind, gas, etc. and you have your own food, you can spend an extra 40+hrs/wk working on h+ projects instead of working on whatever else
20:27 < ybit> that's the argument
20:27 < joshcryer> Precisely.
20:27 < ybit> kanzure: what's the counter-argument?
20:28 < joshcryer> And instead of coming home from work with a fucking headache, and only giving a crap about watching some TV and having a beer and a few smokes, you can just do whatever the fuck you want.
20:28 < joshcryer> Believe me, once I buy the land everyone is welcome to come hang with me.
20:28  * joshcryer winks at CryptoQuick
20:28 < kanzure> ybit: you can't prove they won't come after you about your regulation violations
20:30 < joshcryer> kanzure, private property means you can do anything you want within the law. Pollution limits are very high in America, no small intentional community would ever need break them, but in a warehouse in a downtown part of a city or something, people will bitch and code enforcement likely would squash you quickly.
20:30 < ybit> I don't plan on building an x-ray system anytime soon
20:30 < kanzure> it's not like there's not code enforcement out in the boonies
20:30 < ybit> so i don't have to worry about shielding anything
20:31 < ybit> which code do you speak of?
20:31 < joshcryer> Heh, outside of an incorporated city there is no code enforcement.
20:31 < joshcryer> Except for the EPA and such, and their limits, as I said, are very high.
20:32 < joshcryer> You likely wouldn't even show up on their regular monitoring.
20:32 < joshcryer> But really the main bit is not having to have a day job.
20:32 < joshcryer> Any hippies want to come live on my land they're welcome.
20:34 < joshcryer> I'm welcome to other ideas of course.
20:34 < ybit> outside of food and power, the major things to worry about are neighbors and property tax
20:34 < joshcryer> As I pointed out the other day, I could buy a lifetime supply of MREs for the cost of a hydroponics food growing setup.
20:36 < ybit> gn
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20:36 < joshcryer> Dang, yeah, ybit, another good thing about AZ, property tax is ridiculous. $12 for 360 acres.
20:36 < joshcryer> Of course that doesn't include the valuation of a house which would be built there.
20:37 < kanzure> 20:30 < kanzure> it's not like there's not code enforcement out in the boonies
20:37 < joshcryer> Code is not law, codes are city rules.
20:39 < joshcryer> (in this context)
20:39 < joshcryer> You can't have a warehouse in the middle of a city that is sounding off big explosive sounds all day long.
20:39 < joshcryer> You can in a plot of land where NO PEOPLE are around for 100 square miles.
20:40 < kanzure> what the heck
20:40 < kanzure> why did i paste a line
20:40 < kanzure> what
20:40 < kanzure> i really did not intend to paste anything or send anything
20:41 < joshcryer> Oh, well, whatever, I'm still interested in any proposals you might have.
20:41 < kanzure> building a house for yourself just doesn't seem to be that super-empowering to me, sorry
20:41 < joshcryer> I don't want to drop $50k on something that's a bad idea... (but I'm almost set in my ways).
20:41 < joshcryer> Even if I publish the machined plans online and document the entire process?
20:41 < kanzure> chances are you will fuck that up
20:42 < kanzure> you'll make some lame wiki and make my life harder
20:42 < kanzure> sorry for my cynicism here :)
20:42 < joshcryer> Nah I like it.
20:42 < kanzure> Maybe what you really want is to build a home
20:42 < joshcryer> I used to rant about this all the time, but I regisned myself to just doing it, since talk is cheap.
20:43 < joshcryer> I want to be an island, dude.
20:43 < joshcryer> I always hated that quote.
20:43 < kanzure> ok so what the heck are you doing in arizona
20:43 < joshcryer> "No man is an island."
20:43 < kanzure> there's no water there
20:43 < kanzure> the hell you talking about
20:43 < joshcryer> Fuck yes a man can be an island!
20:43 < joshcryer> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation_XVII
20:44 < kanzure> also building a home within a syystem that specifically discourages alternative frameworks (like sovereignity) just seems silly long-term?
20:45 < joshcryer> How does it specifically discourage alternative frameworks?
20:46 < joshcryer> It discourages wasting effort working within the system as it currently functions.
20:47 < joshcryer> Instead of having a ten thousand dollar light bill to run your machines you're converting thousands of kilowatts of sunlight into work.
20:47 < joshcryer> The ten thousand dollar light bill is limited by donations or other external profit which is just a waste of effort, imo.
20:48 < joshcryer> Oh we'll go think up a new consumer product to get money that has little use toward furthering manufacturing ability, or oh we'll start with making our own damn energy!
20:48 < joshcryer> There isn't a damn electricity producer in space except what we *build there*.
20:51 < kanzure> nope doesn't matter you build on land in the U.S. you fall under its sovereign rules
20:51 < kanzure> i don't buy your independence claims
20:51 < kanzure> are you really sure you just don't want to build a house..
20:51 < joshcryer> Who's the troll now, eh?
20:53 < kanzure> maybe if you were building a mobile home on wheels or something i could buy this argument
20:54 < kanzure> shipping container farm or something, maybe
20:54 < kanzure> but jeeze
20:57 < joshcryer> Heh, I'm unsure if I can convince you that it's not the case since you keep repeating it.
20:57 < joshcryer> And I have no idea what a shipping container farm is.
20:58 < kanzure> you can't convince me! you will never convince me in your time share
20:59 < joshcryer> Having an intentional community on a big plot of land isn't about one single thing, it's a whole series of things.
21:20 < joshcryer> So what's the plan?
21:21 < joshcryer> Start a venture capitalist company and hope the proceeds can be used to further H+?
21:22 < kanzure> 20:57 < kanzure> and hence forth they shall be named squirtle
21:22 < kanzure> 20:57 < kanzure> squirtle1 and then a few hundred years from now squirtle2
21:22 < kanzure> 20:59 < kanzure> oh hm there would have to be some breeding scheme to pass tortoises down in the family tree
21:22 < kanzure> 20:59 < kanzure> squirtle1-1-1-1 for the maternal line?
21:22 < kanzure> what the fuck
21:22 < kanzure> why is stuff pasting!
21:22 < jrayhawk> you just can't stop
21:22 < kanzure> what is wrong with irssi?
21:22 < jrayhawk> are you accidently left and right clicking at the same time?
21:23 < kanzure> i don't think so
21:23 < joshcryer> wtf
21:23 < jrayhawk> well, replace mice, see if situation improves
21:23 < joshcryer> my mouse went through a random clicking stage
21:24 < joshcryer> I was going to replace it but it stopped so I assumed whatever hardware fault was happening stopped
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21:43 < joshcryer> http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/55890/accuweathercom-winter-20112012.asp
21:43 < joshcryer> Don't know AccuWeather's accuracy, but meh.
21:43 < CryptoQuick> iss gon' rain
21:44 < joshcryer> I don't mind rain so much cold.
21:44 < joshcryer> And stupid Colorado has magical evil twisted rain snow.
21:44 < joshcryer> I don't even know how that mixing works out, the snow should become sleet or slush or something but I've encountered fully formed flakes in a rain mist. :O
21:45 < CryptoQuick> O:
21:56 < CryptoQuick> sleap, night
21:57 < kanzure> night
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