--- Log opened Sun Oct 09 00:00:47 2011
00:02 < joshcryer> Well that was weird as all hell.
00:02 < joshcryer> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_System_Assessment_Tool
00:03 < joshcryer> In addition to tests requested by the user, WinSAT is scheduled to automatically run every week. The default schedule is 1am on Sundays.
00:03 < joshcryer> Never encountered this before.
00:07 < JayDugger> How'd you encounter it?
00:11 < joshcryer> Amazingly compatibility mode kicked on randomly and I was quite disturbed since I didn't run anything. Checked the task manager and there it was.
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00:13 < JayDugger> Do you run Vista or Windows 7?
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00:24 < joshcryer> HP set to release NAND flash replacement in 18 months
00:24 < joshcryer> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9220652/HP_set_to_release_NAND_flash_replacement_in_18_months
00:25 < joshcryer> "Flash is a done deal," Williams was quoted as saying, "now we're going after DRAM, and we think we can do two orders of magnitude improvement in terms of switching energy per bit."
00:25 < joshcryer> (regarding memristors, naturally)
00:25 < joshcryer> "We're running hundreds of wafers through the fab," he continued. "We're way ahead of where we thought we would be at this moment in time."
00:25 < joshcryer> nanowire crossbars = easy!
00:27 < joshcryer> eetimes has a slightly better article, imo: http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4229171/HP-Hynix-to-launch-memristor-memory-2013
00:47 < joshcryer>  "We could offer 2-Gbytes of memory per core on the processor chip. Putting non-volatile memory on top of the logic chip will buy us twenty years of Moore's Law", said Williams.
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02:51 < JayDugger> Do they mean Moore's Law improvements from 2013-2033, or a big jump in capability equal to 2033-era chips in 18 months?
02:51 < JayDugger> Pretty poorly written, even for tech journalism.
03:32 < foucist> JayDugger: the former
03:58 < jrayhawk> it'll be rad if flash manages to come and go before anyone manages to make a mass storage device I can actually run a flash filesystem on
04:02 < jrayhawk> maybe I can make a giant jbod of XD cards
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07:10 < AlonzoTG> yes, I set up a Google RSS news feed for memristors a couple weeks ago.
07:10 < AlonzoTG> ;)
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12:25 < kanzure> hi all
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12:49 < strangewarp> You could say, flash memory will be a... flash in the pan
12:49  * strangewarp unrepentant bad pun
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13:10 < kanzure> "The MOSTek 6502 design team was nine people,"
13:38 < Utopiah> Making Things See: 3D vision with Kinect, Processing, and Arduino http://avaxhome.ws/ebooks/eLearning_book/information_technologies/1449307078.html
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16:39 < joshcryer> The whole memristor's "buy us twenty years of Moore's Law" thing is just semantics. Moores law is about transistor count, 20-30 billion memristors on top of a chip is around 10 times the current top level transistor count (around 3 billion on GeForce 400).
16:41 < joshcryer> Hynix needs to focus on a plug and play option that is USB or SATA based and mass market the heck out of it.
16:42 < joshcryer> Focusing on RAM will require a paradigm change because software and hardware will need a new kind of "power saving" operation mode. How do you handle RAM that is non-volatile, etc?
16:46 < joshcryer> As Stanley Williams said, though, in his "Finding the Missing Memristor" talk (I'm sure you've all seen), the industry doesn't "do anything" until the "gun is pointed to their head and the trigger is about to be pulled." If Hynix is successful they may be the trigger to get it done. A petabyte harddrive for a few hundred bucks would screw up the entire hard drive industry.
16:51 < joshcryer> If they get it working they'll need a "get memrestive!" video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xPvD0Z9kz8
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20:20 < kanzure> hrm what happened
20:20 < kanzure> ping timeout? what
20:21 < foucist> who knows, i have ignores on all parts/joins
20:21 < jrayhawk> I blame freenode.
20:22 < kanzure> i blame you jrayhawk
20:22 < kanzure> jrayhawk: can i sleep on your couch if i show up
20:22 < jrayhawk> I don't have a couch, but I might be able to arrange something. How long?
20:22 < kanzure> at most, a week. probably less.
20:23 < kanzure> you don't have a couch?
20:23 < kanzure> what's the point of bumming a couch from a friend if your friends don't have couches
20:23 < foucist> $20 inflatable bed with air pump from walmart!
20:25 < jrayhawk> I live in what can charitably be called a 'cottage', so we'd wind up disrupting eachother's sleep schedules, but I'm not sure how problematic that really is, and there are a couple other options I can look into.
20:26 < kanzure> haha what
20:26 < kanzure> geeze i thought you had a pad
20:26 < kanzure> nevermind
20:26 < jrayhawk> I have a shack in the woods.
20:26 < kanzure> wtf
20:31 < jrayhawk> I guess I was probably renting a house around the time we were introducted...?
20:32 < jrayhawk> introduced
20:35 < delinquentme> out of curiosity
20:35 < delinquentme> is it safe to assume that MOST DNA sequencing companies are out there with the specific intent of extending human life?
20:35 < delinquentme> or at very least the lives of people with $$$ and their own lives?
20:36 < delinquentme> jrayhawk, you're in SF?
20:36 < delinquentme> and whats a "cottage"
20:36 < delinquentme> ( if you dont mind me asking )
20:39 < jrayhawk> No, I'm in Portland. No idea what Kanzure's planning on doing up here.
20:40 < delinquentme> jrayhawk, so im looking to get out that way ... but not into the idea of paying shit loads on rent ...
20:41 < delinquentme> that sounds like an easy way to get decent rent
20:41 < delinquentme> adopt me?
20:41 < delinquentme> no but srsly ... are these lots of those? bc i could be totes into that
20:43 < jrayhawk> Shacks in the boonies probably aren't a good idea unless you're planning on having a car.
20:43 < jrayhawk> And also don't mind mediocre internet connections.
20:47 < kanzure> delinquentme: no, they are just sequencing dna dude
20:48 < delinquentme> why
20:48 < delinquentme> maaannn
20:48 < delinquentme> that pisses me off
20:48 < kanzure> it's a commodity business
20:49 < delinquentme> i donno man
20:49 < kanzure> jrayhawk: i'd be visiting for eric probably
20:49 < jrayhawk> Huh.
20:50 < kanzure> and if i do that i'd want to meet you buttholes
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20:57 < delinquentme> how do you drill nanometer holes?
20:57 < kanzure> acid etches
21:12 < kanzure> fenn: are you coming down for open science summit
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22:00 < delinquentme> night all!
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22:04 < joshcryer> jrayhawk, any more info about your cottage? is it like a tuff shed or a unibomber shack, etc. Do you grow your own food, use solar / wind or from the grid? etc
22:14 < jrayhawk> man, you guys are excitable about shacks
22:16 < joshcryer> Nah if it was a unibomber shack I would just quietly forget I asked...
22:17 < joshcryer> Should look into a nice wireless bridge if your connection is terribly sucky.
22:17 < kanzure> SHACKS!
22:17 < kanzure> radioshack is getting arduinos
22:17 < joshcryer> Are they going to charge 4x as much?
22:18 < kanzure> probably?
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22:19 < joshcryer> I saw that other guy wanted a place to live with low rent / rent free. I knew I was on to something! Mandatory showers though.
22:20 < jrayhawk> http://www.omgwallhack.org/home/jrayhawk/img/hovel/20110514_002.jpg here, have an image
22:20  * joshcryer ... quietly forgets ...
22:20 < joshcryer> >:P
22:21 < kanzure> this is why i love you jrayhawk
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22:21 < kanzure> your keyboard sucks
22:22 < jrayhawk> Yeah, kinda.
22:22 < joshcryer> His Trinitron's?
22:22 < joshcryer> (why you love him)
22:22 < kanzure> no his matrox cards
22:23 < jrayhawk> quad output cards aren't really rare anymore
22:23 < jrayhawk> hell, some laptops have an EyeFinity setup, nowadays.
22:30 < kanzure> mine don't :(
22:33 < jrayhawk> I think for less than $100 in parts you can make an expresscard-to-pcie adapter
22:33 < jrayhawk> Or you could buy a shitload of displaylinks
22:33 < jrayhawk> but they kinda suck on Linux
22:34 < jrayhawk> s/kinda/completely/
22:38 < jrayhawk> http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/418851-diy-vidock-experiences.html#post5324240
22:38 < kanzure> "If a modern design team applied the same amount of attention per transistor as the 6502 team, it would need to contain 1.3 million people."
22:39 < jrayhawk> gosh, it's almost like automated design was a good idea
22:39 < kanzure> heh
22:39 < kanzure> almost
22:54 < joshcryer> Heh
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