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02:29 < Hexaflex> I didn't even know ## was valid
02:43 < Hexaflex> People asleep?
02:44 < Hexaflex> :(
02:50 < jrayhawk> or lurking
02:50 < Hexaflex> that works too
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03:08 < delinquentme> hell NO
03:09 < delinquentme> well always lurKING
03:09 < delinquentme> learning django atm
03:09 < delinquentme> looking for HQ tutorials which arent just academic masturbation on viterbi algos in sequence analysis
03:09 < delinquentme> how about you jrayhawk and Hexaflex
03:27 < Hexaflex> I was getting food
03:27 < Hexaflex> now I'm eating food
03:28 < jrayhawk> that's "life extension", that is
03:28 < Hexaflex> indeed
03:29 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone.
03:29 < Hexaflex> morning o/
03:30 < JayDugger> Whoops! time for breakfast--the only meal of the day.
03:30 < jrayhawk> I'm intermittently playing with iptables and also putting off playing with iptables
03:30 < JayDugger> Heh. Beats my yesterday's wrestling with samba.
03:33 < Hexaflex> I'm betting this room is one of the few places where my computing knowledge is well below the average
03:33 < JayDugger> Depends on whether you count lurkers.
03:34 < JayDugger> Keep learning, and keep improving.
03:34 < Hexaflex> heh
03:42 < delinquentme> JayDugger, are you CRed?
03:45 < delinquentme> so JayDugger i was going to say that the CR thing has only been shown to increase the variance in lifespan
03:45 < JayDugger> Right.
03:45 < delinquentme> so yes while you could live MUCH longer .. could also be much shorter
03:46 < delinquentme> so like.. eat healthy and work like mad at fixing shit :D
03:46 < delinquentme> are there any algo designers in here??
03:46 < JayDugger> I know about the correlation, but i don't think it has a casual link.
03:47 < JayDugger> Eating enough nutritious food and avoiding excess has its own benefits.
03:47 < JayDugger> Gluttony's a sin, I'm told. :)
03:48 < delinquentme> JayDugger, true but we're all statistics
03:48 < delinquentme> :D
03:48 < delinquentme> damn me and those 2 cookies i just ate
03:49 < delinquentme> why cant cookies grant extra lives in mario
03:49 < delinquentme> lives LIKE in maro
03:49 < delinquentme> meh.
03:52 < JayDugger> Yeah, if it wasn't bad for my health, i'd return to my 4C Group diet: Cookies, Candy, Coffee, and Campbell's soup.
03:53 < delinquentme> basic food groups!
03:54 < delinquentme> and when im making $$$ coffee >>> energy drinks
03:54 < delinquentme> nom nom nom
03:54 < delinquentme> my hearts not moving fast enough if i cant FEEL IT IN MY CHEST
03:54  * delinquentme unhealth
03:54 < JayDugger> :) Yeah, just watch out for when your teeth start to grind.
03:54 < JayDugger> It's all fun and games until you lose a crown.
03:56 < Hexaflex> I would like to eat healthily, but it's just too much effort, truth be told
03:56 < JayDugger> Well...
03:56 < JayDugger> it takes a long time to change eating habits.
03:57 < JayDugger> I spent four years slowly reducing my sugar intake to its current low level.
03:57 < Hexaflex> sugar is fine, it's salt that gets me
03:57 < Hexaflex> at least I cook nowadays
03:57 < JayDugger> Oh.
03:58 < Hexaflex> although now I live by myself and such that's kinda unavoidable if I want to survive, hehe
03:58 < JayDugger> I don't much like salty food, but I have pretty low standards for palatability.
03:58 < Hexaflex> salt is my achilles heel foodwise
03:59 < delinquentme> Hexaflex, ha i think im gonna get a fancy job w food
03:59 < JayDugger> I hear the craving drops after about three months.
03:59 < delinquentme> and just work
03:59 < delinquentme> and then stay at work and play SC2
03:59 < delinquentme> then work more
03:59 < delinquentme> go home once a week to shower
03:59 < JayDugger> Nah, you need an employer with a shower.
03:59 < delinquentme> !
03:59 < delinquentme> JayDugger, you're an innovator
03:59 < Hexaflex> hehe
03:59 < delinquentme> i can see it
04:00 < delinquentme> oxford nanopore
04:00 < delinquentme> my current love afair
04:00 < Hexaflex> I have been slacking on my Sc2 due to starting LoL
04:00 < Hexaflex> shame on me
04:00 < delinquentme> Hexaflex, startig a new job?
04:00 < JayDugger> LoL?
04:00 < Hexaflex> league of legends
04:00 < delinquentme> Ohhhh
04:00 < delinquentme> yeahhh sc2 is tits
04:00 < delinquentme> im about to hit gold :D
04:00 < delinquentme> lol
04:00 < Hexaflex> ;D
04:00 < delinquentme> got my ASS kicked yesterady bc messy build order
04:01 < delinquentme> blink stalkers woot woot
04:01 < JayDugger> Thank you.
04:01 < Hexaflex> I was diamond random in eu, but then I was gold in kr :(
04:01 < Hexaflex> even taking P as my dominant race
04:02 < delinquentme> kr?
04:02 < delinquentme> yehh!
04:02 < delinquentme> im a toss
04:02 < Hexaflex> I live in Japan so yeah playing on the korean server
04:02 < Hexaflex> or I was
04:02 < delinquentme> Oh! yeahhh
04:02 < delinquentme> HuK HuK Me KoREa ^_^;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
04:02 < Hexaflex> lol
04:02 < Hexaflex> or kekeke I guess
04:03 < delinquentme> <('.'<)  <( '.' )>   (>'.')>
04:03 < delinquentme> thats the spirit!
04:03 < Hexaflex> ^^
04:03 < delinquentme> Hexaflex, what do you do in japan?
04:03 < Hexaflex> Not a whole lot
04:03 < delinquentme> other than enjoy the fact women hit on men
04:03 < Hexaflex> haha yeah
04:03 < delinquentme> and they're asian.
04:03 < delinquentme> <3
04:04 < Hexaflex> I was going to teach english but I wanted to be an assistant in a school really
04:04 < Hexaflex> and no-where's hiring for that
04:04 < delinquentme> an assistant?
04:04 < Hexaflex> assistant teacher
04:04 < delinquentme> whats the job description look like?
04:04 < Hexaflex> rather than an actual teacher in charge and all
04:04 < delinquentme> ah!  specific subject?
04:04 < delinquentme> oh derp english
04:04 < Hexaflex> ;D
04:05 < delinquentme> thats cool I've got a friend over there by the name of laura juku
04:05 < delinquentme> we call her Ra Ra
04:05 < Hexaflex> I did a CELTA back in the UK which involved teaching some students as a full teacher and it was pretty stressful just cause everything was on me
04:05 < Hexaflex> heh
04:05 < delinquentme> du know any devs for final fantasy?
04:05 < Hexaflex> no but I wish I did
04:05 < Hexaflex> my degree is in games design
04:05 < delinquentme> its a joke.
04:05 < delinquentme> they dont know anyone from "the outside"
04:05 < Hexaflex> the new one is, yeah
04:05 < Hexaflex> hah
04:06 < delinquentme> ive heard about game devs who REALLY want to make games moving there
04:06 < delinquentme> and the culture is NUTS!
04:06 < delinquentme> maybe i dont want to be a complete machine.....
04:06 < Hexaflex> heh yeah their work culture is pretty full on
04:06 < delinquentme> ~99.8
04:06 < delinquentme> but then that also has to do with the JOBS FOR LYFE
04:07 < delinquentme> thats called "not innovating"
04:07 < Hexaflex> probably doesn't aid innovation no
04:07 < Hexaflex> but then they've been fine in that department before
04:07 < Hexaflex> due to their different culture in general, what seems normal over here isn't normal in the rest of the world
04:07 < delinquentme> TRUE
04:07 < Hexaflex> potentially
04:08 < delinquentme> you dont need to innovate when you're lightyears ahead of anyone else
04:08 < Hexaflex> :)
04:08 < delinquentme> oh well thats just societal differences
04:08 < delinquentme> like we humans are pretty fucking isolated
04:08 < delinquentme> but like extrapolate that out into the cosmos
04:08 < delinquentme> im pretty different from your average japanese salaryman
04:09 < delinquentme> but like how different would we be to a alien race
04:09 < Hexaflex> anywhere from exactly the same to total opposite
04:09 < delinquentme> ID LOVE to see an alien race stop by and be like " Y U fucking around killing each other stupid humans?"
04:09 < delinquentme> true!
04:09 < Hexaflex> lol
04:09 < delinquentme> and i mean opposite in ways that we cant even comprehend
04:09 < delinquentme> Srsly if the protoss came around thats what they'd say
04:10 < delinquentme> and then they'd give me a immortal to take to work
04:10 < delinquentme> pew pew!
04:10 < Hexaflex> I dunno man, the protoss are pretty warlike
04:10 < Hexaflex> at least against the zerg taint
04:10 < delinquentme> TRUE.
04:10 < delinquentme> but we really only see their war tech
04:10 < Hexaflex> they'd see us making tyranid models and decide we were infected
04:10 < Hexaflex> heh yeah
04:10 < delinquentme> for example
04:10 < delinquentme> what is protoss lovin like
04:10 < delinquentme> i donno!
04:10 < delinquentme> how about culture?  they've got sexy technology far shar
04:11 < jrayhawk> the aliens are coming here to steal our jobs and exploit our healthcare and educational resources
04:11 < jrayhawk> fukken protoss
04:11 < delinquentme> warp in shit hell yeh!
04:11 < delinquentme> LOLLOLOL
04:11 < delinquentme> well they're not coming with higly advanced technology
04:11 < delinquentme> just burritos
04:11 < delinquentme> ( which are delish )
04:11 < Hexaflex> dey took our psi!
04:12 < jrayhawk> I didn't know the protoss were big on burritos, but maybe a burrito is like an allegory for shield technology
04:12 < delinquentme> no but really! if a highly logical like selfless alien race came around
04:12 < delinquentme> maybe they would just observe us and be like " deze nubs "
04:12 < Hexaflex> possibly possibly
04:12 < delinquentme> not even stop to give us any attention
04:13 < Hexaflex> depends if they'd met other races as well
04:13 < delinquentme> ahh true!
04:13 < Hexaflex> if we were the first alien race they'd encountered they'd probably talk regardless
04:13 < delinquentme> they might not have a standard operating procedure for interaction
04:13 < Hexaflex> yeah
04:13 < delinquentme> we'd send the welcome wagon from independence day?
04:13 < delinquentme> wom wom wommmmm
04:14 < Hexaflex> heh
04:15 < Hexaflex> was watching the WCG earlier
04:15 < Hexaflex> I'm glad esports seems to be taking off
04:15 < Hexaflex> hope that continues
04:16 < delinquentme> hell YEH!
04:16 < delinquentme> i was watching whiteRa's stream
04:16 < delinquentme> and licking all the ads
04:16 < delinquentme> multiple times
04:16 < Hexaflex> o.o
04:16 < delinquentme> CTR goes up! conversion rate DOWN.
04:16 < Hexaflex> tmi my friend
04:16 < delinquentme> lolol
04:17 < delinquentme> just doing my part.
04:17 < delinquentme> taking wan for the team
04:17 < Hexaflex> no I mean, I don't need to know what you lick and what you don't lick
04:17 < Hexaflex> typo har har
04:18 < delinquentme> i like lick ads OKE>
04:18 < delinquentme> whiteRa is boss though
04:18 < delinquentme> picking up some micro tips
04:18 < Hexaflex> whitera is the man
04:18 < delinquentme> du still have sc2 installed?
04:18 < delinquentme> Im decent w my macro
04:19 < Hexaflex> yeah but only the TW/KR client]
04:19 < delinquentme> gotta get some mcnasty micro down though
04:19 < delinquentme> ohhhhhh
04:19 < delinquentme> le gay
04:19 < Hexaflex> my micro is actually better than my macro
04:19 < delinquentme> really!
04:19 < Hexaflex> which is probably why I like LoL
04:19 < delinquentme> whats your fav build
04:19 < Hexaflex> being all micro
04:19 < delinquentme> well i love massive armys clashing
04:19 < Hexaflex> 1gate exp vs T, FFE vs Z, 3gate robo v P
04:19 < delinquentme> but then well executed micro is really satisfying
04:19 < Hexaflex> I enjoy the earlygame micro
04:19 < delinquentme> FFE?
04:20 < Hexaflex> denying worker scouts and such
04:20 < Hexaflex> forge fast expand
04:20 < delinquentme> ahhhh true! just today I out expanded a zerg
04:20 < delinquentme> was peachy w myself
04:20 < Hexaflex> heh
04:20 < delinquentme> and up untill about a week ago i wasnt using sentrys at all
04:21 < delinquentme> effing spell casters rock
04:21 < Hexaflex> yeah I don't use sentries as much as most players
04:21 < Hexaflex> just enough for the ff and a shield
04:21 < Hexaflex> I love blink micro though
04:22 < Hexaflex> I spend far too much time reading TL/Reddit/Solomid
04:23 < Hexaflex> but then it is technically my profession
04:23 < Hexaflex> so it all counts
04:23 < delinquentme> excuse me one moment i need to go scream in #django
04:23 < Hexaflex> npnp
04:23 < Hexaflex> sorry jay and jray if the gaming talk is not your cup of tea
04:24 < delinquentme> blink micro on saving that unit ... SO good.
04:24 < delinquentme> REDDIT
04:24 < Hexaflex> yeah I knew you used reddit from the le
04:24 < Hexaflex> just blinking back in waves from roaches
04:24 < Hexaflex> good fun
04:24 < delinquentme> from the le?
04:24 < Hexaflex>  <delinquentme> le gay
04:24 < delinquentme> HA
04:24 < Hexaflex> redit
04:24 < Hexaflex> for sure
04:25 < delinquentme> dude. django
04:25 < delinquentme> grrr. its cool
04:26 < Hexaflex> last time I did any coding was A-levels
04:26 < Hexaflex> I just design things
04:26 < Hexaflex> much easier
04:26 < delinquentme> pshooper?
04:26 < Hexaflex> nah nah
04:26 < Hexaflex> well yes but I'm not great
04:26 < delinquentme> ever heard of smarterer?
04:26 < Hexaflex> nope
04:26 < delinquentme> ahh kk
04:27 < delinquentme> i been shooping for like 12 years
04:27 < Hexaflex> I mean level design, player interaction etc etc
04:27 < delinquentme> OH!
04:27 < delinquentme> hot!
04:27 < Hexaflex> yeah I can use photoshop but I'm not great
04:27 < Hexaflex> like I can 3dsmax/maya but you wouldn't ask me to do it for something that actually matters
04:27 < delinquentme> *shrug* now im trying to learn algos and heavy statistics to use in machine learning and frikken bioinformatics
04:27 < delinquentme> so like weh.
04:27 < Hexaflex> hehe
04:28 < Hexaflex> good luck
04:28 < delinquentme> its not bad
04:28 < delinquentme> just fucking academia
04:28 < Hexaflex> academia
04:28 < delinquentme> anything science REEKS of it unless you're on the edge
04:28 < Hexaflex> is such bollocks
04:28 < delinquentme> well
04:28 < delinquentme> they're scared
04:28 < delinquentme> they should be
04:28 < delinquentme> software is faster
04:28 < delinquentme> and breeds on evolution
04:29 < delinquentme> not the good old boy model of " i took it in the ass for 52 years and now i get tenure!! "
04:29 < Hexaflex> I mean that in the way that they put hurdles in the way of perfectly good research because it doesn't lead on from something else that some other bloke wrote last year etc
04:29 < Hexaflex> heh yeah
04:29 < delinquentme> just .. no. Sorry you made that decision
04:29 < Hexaflex> ^^
04:29 < delinquentme> omg and im in r/askscience all the time
04:29 < delinquentme> and people joke
04:30 < delinquentme> about putting grad students to machine tasks
04:30 < delinquentme> * calmly composes self *
04:30 < Hexaflex> haha
04:31 < delinquentme> and then i just want to cut into their brain in order to tease out the reasoning as to what makes a "grad student brain" more deft at monotony than their additional 5 years of education
04:31 < delinquentme> machine tasks are fucking machine tasks.
04:31 < delinquentme> OH! and i wrote this shit talker from MIT ( whos bashing DIY bio for oversimplifying everything )
04:31 < Hexaflex> it's not about what actually helps progress, it's about how we can keep people busy
04:31 < delinquentme> HAHAHA
04:31 < delinquentme> Grrrrr
04:31 < delinquentme> yes.
04:32 < delinquentme> warm body syndrome
04:32 < delinquentme> it makes the world go round
04:32 < Hexaflex> exactly
04:32 < delinquentme> but yeah mr MIT synth bio hasnt replied
04:32 < delinquentme> I guess so far I've managed to half-decently encapsulate the difficulties associated with medical robotics?
04:32 < delinquentme> wheres a blowtorch
04:33 < Hexaflex> heh
04:33 < delinquentme> sigh
04:33 < delinquentme> i use big words when im angry
04:33 < Hexaflex> *le sigh
04:33 < delinquentme> lol
04:33 < delinquentme> i gotta work on that
04:33 < delinquentme> ^^^^
04:33 < Hexaflex> nothing wrong with using big words as long as it gets the point across
04:34 < Hexaflex> the point of language is to communicate, and if long words more accurately describe the situation then go right ahead
04:34 < delinquentme> True! but theres a lot of good in the ability to express something simply
04:34 < Hexaflex> yeah ofc
04:34 < delinquentme> true true
04:34 < delinquentme> so its all about knowing the audience
04:34 < Hexaflex> exactly
04:34 < delinquentme> research papers need to be gateway drugs
04:34 < Hexaflex> haha
04:34 < Hexaflex> yes
04:35 < delinquentme> but they fail to be bc even the abstracts are too convoluted to be read by your average american
04:35 < delinquentme> a project rewriting abstracts of all the current research papers would b e phenomenal
04:35 < Hexaflex> trying to take meaning from psychology papers to use in my dissertation was a nightmare
04:35 < Hexaflex> because they just used the longest words possible to sound intelligent
04:35 < delinquentme> psychology degree??
04:36 < delinquentme> yeap.
04:36 < delinquentme> haha
04:36 < delinquentme> fucking human signaling
04:36 < Hexaflex> indeed
04:36 < Hexaflex> yeah the thing is, we were doing games design, and there's very few papers on the subjecy
04:36 < Hexaflex> it being so new
04:36 < delinquentme> Hexaflex, you've got a masters in shrinkology?
04:36 < Hexaflex> nope nope games design
04:37 < Hexaflex> I did psychology at A-level
04:37 < delinquentme> ohhh so you were looking into the psychology
04:37 < Hexaflex> we used psychological research as the basis of our testing
04:37 < Hexaflex> yeah
04:37 < delinquentme> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GCE_Advanced_Level ?
04:37 < delinquentme> ohhh
04:37 < delinquentme> so this is like
04:37 < Hexaflex> yeah
04:37 < Hexaflex> pre-university
04:37 < delinquentme> damn!
04:38 < delinquentme> i was about to say " stuff you learn at a university minus all the electives and humanity bullshit "
04:38 < Hexaflex> haha
04:38 < Hexaflex> what electives and humanity bullshit
04:38 < delinquentme> niiiiceee saving people money AND advancing humanity
04:38 < Hexaflex> this is the uk
04:38 < Hexaflex> I did my degree and nothing else
04:38 < delinquentme> GOD
04:38 < delinquentme> thats so liberating
04:38 < Hexaflex> ;D
04:38 < Hexaflex> not a bad system
04:39 < delinquentme> electives = additional time to spend in school getting drunk and trying your newest breeding method
04:39 < Hexaflex> heh yeah
04:39 < delinquentme> lol again. fucking humans
04:39 < Hexaflex> you're from the US then right?
04:39 < delinquentme> Y U BREED
04:39 < Hexaflex> lol
04:39 < delinquentme> Y U NO ADVANCE
04:39 < delinquentme> yeaaaaa
04:40 < delinquentme> been all over the place so Im lucky to not be attached to that idea of " have friends keep friends .. then do what friends do "
04:40 < Hexaflex> yeah they always used to warn us against that
04:40 < delinquentme> poor girlfriend has been on FB too much and seeing people getting married and going to the beach
04:40 < Hexaflex> heh
04:40 < Hexaflex> FB is a dangerous tool
04:40 < delinquentme> and im like " yes thats the only time they're alive "
04:41 < delinquentme> FB = interactive MTV ?
04:41 < Hexaflex> possibly
04:41 < Hexaflex> I do appreciate it though, being half the world away from the rest of my social group
04:41 < delinquentme> absolutely!
04:41 < Hexaflex> or my home social group at least
04:41 < Hexaflex> but then that's more a property of the internet than FB itself
04:42 < Hexaflex> worldwide spread
04:42 < delinquentme> all hail the interwebs
04:42 < Hexaflex> hail o/
04:42 < delinquentme> but yeah knowing who you are and how you're different from friends
04:42 < delinquentme> so so so so key
04:42 < Hexaflex> seriously, most important invention of recent memory
04:42 < Hexaflex> hehe yeah
04:42 < delinquentme> internet, cellphones
04:43 < delinquentme> and im also putting commodization of super computing
04:43 < Hexaflex> well all my friends before I went to uni were mostly outdoorsy types
04:43 < Hexaflex> yeah
04:43 < delinquentme> simply : making super computers available to all
04:43 < Hexaflex> affordable
04:43 < delinquentme> yeh!
04:43 < Hexaflex> the economics of supercomputing as it were
04:43 < delinquentme> montecarlo sims TYVM
04:43 < Hexaflex> hehe
04:43 < delinquentme> but yeah its awesome to have friends
04:43 < delinquentme> but theres also downfalls of having too many
04:44 < delinquentme> it takes time to manage friendships
04:44 < delinquentme> and if your interests dont align w the friends interests
04:44 < Hexaflex> yeah there's a limit on how many friendships you can actually sustain at one time
04:44 < delinquentme> well thats a TON of energy
04:44 < delinquentme> oh oh oh!
04:44 < delinquentme> and.
04:45 < Hexaflex> hence the reason people grow out of touch with friends from college/uni/work etc
04:45 < delinquentme> Anton
04:45 < Hexaflex> Anton?
04:45 < delinquentme> yeahh but the solution to that is no who you are .. and be open and cool about communicating it .. and youll make friends easily
04:45 < delinquentme> <3 geeking out at coffee shops
04:45 < delinquentme> Anton is _THE_ molecular dynamics super computer
04:45 < delinquentme> basically our "in silico" modelling is shit
04:46 < Hexaflex> never heard of it :O
04:46 < delinquentme> like we cant simulate fast enough to get anything of use
04:46 < Hexaflex> which surprises me
04:46 < Hexaflex> hah
04:46 < delinquentme> so we've got to run anything interesting in actual goo and chemicals
04:46 < Hexaflex> nice nice[
04:46 < delinquentme> but since anton is specifically made for molecular dynamics
04:46 < delinquentme> its can simulate like micro seconds
04:47 < delinquentme> wheras everything before was nano
04:47 < delinquentme> so like .. we could accurately simulate ...*drum roll*
04:47 < delinquentme> A WATER MOLECULE!
04:47 < Hexaflex> ^^
04:47 < delinquentme> ( at least the molecular interactions )
04:47 < delinquentme> but yeh this is my current pursuit
04:48 < Hexaflex> I have very little knowledge on the subject, but yeah it sounds cool
04:48 < Hexaflex> nice man
04:48 < delinquentme> land job in sciency position working with either algo design or web related science stuff
04:48 < delinquentme> and then work the machine learning in bio
04:48 < Hexaflex> cool
04:48 < delinquentme> *shrug*
04:48 < delinquentme> science can be cool
04:49 < Hexaflex> science is cool
04:49 < Hexaflex> honestly
04:49 < delinquentme> its sure as shit not what they teach in classes though
04:49 < Hexaflex> hah
04:49 < delinquentme> you're absolutely right
04:49 < Hexaflex> classes are to pass tests
04:49 < delinquentme> yeap!
04:49 < delinquentme> we need to give kids the sexy shit!
04:49 < Hexaflex> yeah, true
04:49 < delinquentme> do you want to dissect a frog
04:49 < delinquentme> no
04:49 < delinquentme> do you want to fire up 500 cores of amazon processing power to.......
04:50 < delinquentme> chop through the data which makes up life and might allow us to reverse engineer genes
04:50 < delinquentme> uh yeh option2
04:50 < delinquentme> prez
04:50 < Hexaflex> I dunno, dissecting a frog can be useful for basic anatomy ;P
04:50 < Hexaflex> dpeends on the level :D
04:50 < delinquentme> true
04:51 < delinquentme> i guess its " what appeals to the kid "
04:51 < delinquentme> me I want to further this crazy idea that I might be able to conribute to extending human life
04:51 < Hexaflex> appeals and building on what they already know
04:51 < Hexaflex> hell yes
04:51 < delinquentme> fucking quad copters!
04:51 < delinquentme> those are hot
04:51 < Hexaflex> haha
04:51 < Hexaflex> they're so good
04:51 < delinquentme> omg yes.
04:52 < delinquentme> like ive got a scheme to get my bro into it
04:52 < delinquentme> i mean robotics and engineering
04:52 < delinquentme> quad copter = gateway drug
04:52 < Hexaflex> lol
04:52 < Hexaflex> yeah I can see that
04:52 < delinquentme> hell yeh man! mount a camera on it
04:52 < delinquentme> rig up some rocket enginges to shoot things off of it
04:53 < delinquentme> #mayhem #destruction #anonymity
04:53 < Hexaflex> ^^
04:53 < Hexaflex> usually gets people's attention
04:53 < delinquentme> brining child hellishness into the 21st century
04:53 < delinquentme> id use it to peep
04:53 < delinquentme> but my brothers a better person than i am
04:54 < delinquentme> (good thing )
04:54 < Hexaflex> mostly one of the problems is that people assume kids can't understand
04:54 < Hexaflex> but if they actually try giving them the information, sometimes they do
04:54 < delinquentme> Hexaflex, do you have any demo-able titles?
04:54 < delinquentme> YEH!
04:54 < delinquentme> or they've got ADHD
04:54 < Hexaflex> yup
04:54 < delinquentme> SORRY teacher you're boring!
04:54 < delinquentme> YOU dont like what you chose to dedicate your life to
04:54 < delinquentme> fuck.
04:55 < Hexaflex> haha
04:55 < delinquentme> or you didnt work hard enough to get to where you wanted
04:55  * delinquentme introspection
04:55 < delinquentme> me STFUs
04:55 < Hexaflex> and no, no demoable titles, I'm only just out of uni, most I've done so far is some testing
04:56 < Hexaflex> will hopefully get a design job when I go back to the UK, I was top of my class so it should be ok hopefully
04:56 < Hexaflex> most of my friends are having some trouble
04:56 < Hexaflex> what with everything being fucked at the moment
04:56 < delinquentme> Hexaflex, ever hear of a game called overgrowth?
04:56 < delinquentme> lemme get u a vid
04:56 < Hexaflex> I haven't, but thanks
04:57 < delinquentme> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLeb-NWOrsQ
04:57 < delinquentme> indy game
04:57 < delinquentme> like granted this is prob best of the best
04:57 < delinquentme> but indy no less
04:58 < delinquentme> and its #orgasmixx
04:58 < Hexaflex> Ahh from the guy who made lugaru judging from the graphics
04:58 < Hexaflex> wolfire?
04:58 < delinquentme> yeah!!!
04:58 < delinquentme> so you know the summation
04:58 < delinquentme> ninja fighting rabbit parkour videogame
04:58 < Hexaflex> haha playing the mirror's edge music
04:58 < Hexaflex> nice
04:58 < delinquentme> oh yeah man
04:58 < Hexaflex> yeah the orignal was well ahead of it's time
04:58 < delinquentme> imagination at work
04:59 < Hexaflex> hah
04:59 < delinquentme> humans
04:59 < delinquentme> we're so so so fucking beautifully wonderfully CAPABLE
04:59 < delinquentme> *GUSHES*
04:59 < Hexaflex> lol
04:59 < Hexaflex> it's pretty good
05:00 < delinquentme> make sure you get to the 2:20 mark
05:00 < delinquentme> :D
05:00 < delinquentme> chilling
05:01 < Hexaflex> for an indy dev it's very impressive
05:02 < Hexaflex> but honestly I think he made a mistake using the mirror's edge music
05:02 < Hexaflex> because it's unflattering compared to the one jump/climb up edge/somersault mid-air animation loop he's showing off
05:03 < Hexaflex> mirror's edge was a complete game and he's showing a tech demo, a nice tech demo, but a demo
05:03 < Hexaflex> using another piece of music would have avoided the comparison
05:04 < Hexaflex> wall running as well, durr. But yeah mirror's edge had that and more
05:04 < Hexaflex> being a fully released multi-platform title and all
05:05 < delinquentme> true true
05:05 < delinquentme> i REALLY would love to play through mirrors edge
05:05 < Hexaflex> it's a great game
05:05 < Hexaflex> sadly underrated
05:05 < delinquentme> video games such a wonderfully visceral way to get involved in something thats beyond what everyone thinks is "real"
05:05 < Hexaflex> yep
05:06 < Hexaflex> it's real for the amount of time you're playing the game
05:06 < Hexaflex> it's a fascinating medium
05:06 < Hexaflex> I bloody love it ;P
05:07 < delinquentme> Hexaflex, my usual comment is what is real
05:07 < delinquentme> real is *duh dump*
05:07 < delinquentme> electrical signals
05:07 < Hexaflex> in yo brain
05:07 < delinquentme> one stimulus or another
05:07 < delinquentme> its all electrical signals
05:08 < Hexaflex> true
05:08 < delinquentme> and if it can inject a little bit of that imagination crack into a kids head
05:08 < delinquentme> hell yeh
05:08 < delinquentme> I WANT the cities I see in final fantasy
05:08 < Hexaflex> haha yeah
05:08 < delinquentme> I WANT the space fairing awesomeness I see in EvE online
05:08 < delinquentme> nah its ok you stay here earth bound head wrapped up in jersey shore
05:08 < Hexaflex> the reason people enjoy looking at it is because we like it as an idea
05:09 < Hexaflex> lol
05:09 < delinquentme> im gonna reside elsewhere
05:09 < Hexaflex> people are people
05:09 < delinquentme> true
05:09 < Hexaflex> people are very different to other people
05:09 < delinquentme> we are human
05:09 < Hexaflex> yep
05:09 < delinquentme> and I do fap
05:09 < Hexaflex> orly
05:09 < delinquentme> so im not entirely guiltless
05:09 < delinquentme> lolol
05:09 < Hexaflex> ^^
05:10 < delinquentme> i had this convo w my mother
05:10 < delinquentme> really
05:10 < delinquentme> i just want people
05:10 < delinquentme> to come to terms with their latent capacity
05:10 < delinquentme> i wish for every person out there to realize that of their progeny they are THE most ADVANCEd thing to happen to that lineage
05:10 < delinquentme> and they are WILDLY INNATELY capable.
05:11 < delinquentme> if we had that we'd all live to 1000 by tomorrow
05:11 < Hexaflex> it doesn't make economic sense for everyone to innovate though
05:11 < delinquentme> hmmm
05:11 < delinquentme> explain
05:11 < Hexaflex> the whole thing is making jobs and keeping people working etc
05:11 < Hexaflex> if we invented new things all the time then it would mess up the markets
05:12 < delinquentme> ummm
05:12 < Hexaflex> it would be a good thing ultimately, and it's what I would prefer, but it would involve mass disruption
05:12 < delinquentme> sacrafice innovation for the market?
05:12 < delinquentme> duh?
05:12 < Hexaflex> hehe
05:12 < delinquentme> lets kill the internet bc it decentralizes things?
05:13 < Hexaflex> that's exactly what they want to do, yes
05:13 < delinquentme> my buddy has a term for this
05:13 < Hexaflex> SOPA etc
05:13 < delinquentme> when is that going down
05:13 < delinquentme> the voting
05:13 < Hexaflex> keeping the people who are in power still in power is the most important thing
05:13 < Hexaflex> to the people in power
05:13 < Hexaflex> no idea
05:13 < Hexaflex> tbh
05:13 < Hexaflex> soon
05:13 < Hexaflex> the only place I get news on it from is reddit
05:13 < delinquentme> ive signed petitions
05:14 < delinquentme> reddit is gud.
05:14 < Hexaflex> idd
05:14 < delinquentme> 4chan put up a fake out about it saying they've been blocked :D
05:14 < delinquentme> thatll do it :D
05:14 < Hexaflex> hah
05:14 < Hexaflex> yeah
05:15 < Hexaflex> but yeah the most important thing isn't improving the human race as a whole
05:15 < Hexaflex> but keeping the status quo
05:15 < delinquentme> lolololol
05:15 < Hexaflex> because the people who decide those things are at the top
05:15 < Hexaflex> so they want to keep it that way
05:15 < delinquentme> Hexaflex, you're on point
05:15 < delinquentme> WELL
05:15 < delinquentme> there is one redeeming thing
05:15 < delinquentme> people at the top (presumably) love life
05:16 < delinquentme> so guess what they'll pay for life extension
05:16 < Hexaflex> so extending life would be a bonus
05:16 < Hexaflex> yeah
05:16 < delinquentme> all their worldy goods
05:16 < Hexaflex> it needs to get to a tipping point where a few more years will make success though
05:16 < Hexaflex> for them to risk their comfortable retirement for longer life
05:16 < Hexaflex> when the new guns below them are bucking to take over
05:17 < Hexaflex> because if they back life extension and lose, then their retirement is broken
05:17 < Hexaflex> so they play it safe
05:18 < Hexaflex> brb
05:19 < delinquentme> ahhh treu true i was looking at it from a "problem solved" standpoint
05:19 < delinquentme> which I think is whats going to happen
05:19 < delinquentme> BREAKING
05:19 < delinquentme> ill BBL
05:19 < delinquentme> ttyl!
05:21 < Hexaflex> hopefully it'll all work out
05:21 < Hexaflex> be back on tomorrow at some point, from my point of view
05:21 < Hexaflex> o/
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07:30 < kanzure> what.. what happened there
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08:45 < kanzure> "common contracts" http://openideas.ideon.co/2011/cure-for-jurisdyslexia-discovered?
08:46 < kanzure> hrm, i'm pretty sure that exists on legalzoom or something
08:46 < kanzure> it would be nice to have a score card for a contract i guess
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11:31 < delinquentme> kanzure,
11:31 < delinquentme> the references sheets?  hyper polymath?
11:31 < delinquentme> hyper polyglot .. hyper rennisance hyper ... something
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12:49 < kanzure> neh.. http://learningthreejs.com/blog/2011/12/10/constructive-solid-geometry-with-csg-js/
12:51 < kanzure> https://github.com/svensken/Pacer
12:51 < kanzure> http://pacerpcr.com/
12:52 < kanzure> https://github.com/svensken/Pacer/blob/master/Circuit/schematic_snapshot.png
12:52 < kanzure> using git for pdfs and pngs.. hrm
12:53 < kanzure> although i do find the pyqt ui amusing
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14:14 < Mariu> hey CRM114
14:14 < CRM114> hi people
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14:42 < fenn> mrrr
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14:46 < kanzure> fenn: that space station is no longer accessible
14:47 < Mariu> EvE - Online ?
14:48 < Mariu> hey kanzure
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14:57 < kanzure> hi mariu
14:58 < Mariu> Hello, kanzure !
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17:15 < JayDugger> Good evening, everyone.
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20:13 < JayDugger> Good night, everyone.
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20:15 < kanzure> hmm
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21:40 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/t/370f8959c03041fe
21:40 < kanzure> so... in that scenario,
21:40 < kanzure> all royalty and licensing fees get paid back to the govt
21:40 < kanzure> for subsidizing r&d
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22:10 < kanzure> <?php if($_REQUEST['page']>0){}else{$_REQUEST['page']=1;}; ?>
22:11 < kanzure> i inherited a php project :/
22:11 < kanzure> mkdir ($_REQUEST['dir_loc'],0777);
22:11 < kanzure> :(
22:14 < strangewarp> christ
22:14 < kanzure> <td <?php if($cnt%2==0){?>class="row_even"<?php }else{?>class="row_odd"<?php }?>>
22:14 < kanzure> <3
22:48 < kanzure> <?echo '<script type="text/javascript">'; if( (!isset( $_REQUEST['tab'] ) || !is_numeric($_REQUEST['tab'])) ){$_REQUEST['tab'] = 1;} print "var tab = {$_REQUEST['tab']};\n"; print 'toggleTab(tab,4,0,false);'; ?></script>
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23:04 < kanzure> http://pastebin.com/KHmuhmRF
23:04 < kanzure> AHHHHH
23:06 < superkuh> That looks like the kind of script I write.
23:06 < strangewarp> Loving that terrible-ass code
23:08 < kanzure> superkuh: if you need to use php for web applications in the future then please consider looking at phpcake or codeigniter (or similar)
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23:20 < jrayhawk> man, i don't even like programming and even I feel a compulsion to fix that
23:20 < kanzure> wait until you see download.php?filepath=../exploit/me/exploit/me
23:21 < jrayhawk> Yeah, I sorta suspected there was no sanitization of either input or output.
23:22 < jrayhawk> I guess PHP and vBASIC are useful as honeypots.
23:22 < kanzure> every time you load a page
23:22 < kanzure> it generates a new pdf with stuff from the mysql db
23:22 < kanzure> by loading a php/pdf library (custom compiled, of course)
23:23 < kanzure> (custom compiled for the wrong architecture?)
23:23 < kanzure> and it mkdir's for that pdf file to exist somewhere. then it sets 777 on the directory.
23:24 < kanzure> this makes me happy: http://f-billing.com/invoice.php (it's ugly, but it has some slick js)
23:27 < jrayhawk> they charge thirty dollars for an invoice template?
23:27 < kanzure> oh their actual products? ignore them
23:27 < kanzure> just steal the javascript and modify the css
23:52 < kanzure> jrayhawk: http://twitter.com/qualityphp
23:57 < jrayhawk> http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2803713 is also fairly good
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